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RF Godfather

12-16-2003, 01:37 PM

Since the Yankee fans have one and stickyfingers kindly mentioned it... here is a thread for all of jus Mets fanatics!

So thus far, recap time:
Kazuo Matsui comes from Japan (signs a 3 year deal) and moves Jose Reyes to second (although like many have mentioned, he should go to third and move Ty Wiggy to his original position second)
Mike Cameron decides to play center for the 2004 Mets and rejecting more money from places like Oakland.
Mets offered salary arbitration to LHP John Franco. Declined arbitration on INF Jay Bell, INF Tony Clark and RHP Pedro Astacio.
Billy Koch, Ugie and Williamson are a few names that have been mentioned as possible closer pickups for the Mets.
Who will be the newest addition to the Mets rotation? Ponson, too expensive. Paul Wilson? Hell no! Ramon Ortiz or Jarrod Washburn, quite possible and both very talented and hard-throwers (something the Mets lack in their rotation).
Who will be in rightfield? Someone please take Cedeno off our hands. What about Vlad? Come on Wilpon, open that fat wallet of yours already! Make a bid before the O's clamp down on another superstar. Jose Guillen? I'd rather not. There has been talk about Aubrey Huff in a trade from Tampa Bay and I would be for that. He has alot of talent. Maybe Geoff Jenkins? Preston Wilson?

Thus far, good job permanent GM Jim Duquette. Keep up the fine work. Make us want to cheer for the Mets again!

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So let us try to make this the Mets unofficial off season moves thread. Thank you.

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newport king

12-16-2003, 04:59 PM

although like many have mentioned, he should go to third and move Ty Wiggy to his original position second

think about the right side of the infield with piazza, when he finally gets out from behind the plate, even phillips for that matter with wigginton at second. at least with reyes at 2nd he is a hell of alot faster can can cover some ground for those two playing first. i understand about his cannon for an arm but it could be used well in double play situations.

Mike Cameron decides to play center for the 2004 Mets and rejecting more money from places like Oakland

not bad but he strikes out a ton but a solid glove. best cf since dykstra.

Mets offered salary arbitration to LHP John Franco. Declined arbitration on INF Jay Bell, INF Tony Clark and RHP Pedro Astacio.

old and sentimental should retire a met and coach in the organization. Bell retired, Clark is not an everyday player occasional pop off the bench. Astacio too many labrum problems, thanks but no thanks.

Billy Koch, Ugie and Williamson are a few names that have been mentioned as possible closer pickups for the Mets.

koch would be a gamble but well worth it if it means dumping cedeno. ugie is too expensive, don't spend like 3 mil on a closer when there might not be that many games to close. williamson was good in the post season which will drive his price up i'd make an offer but don't get in a bidding war.

Who will be in rightfield? Someone please take Cedeno off our hands. What about Vlad? Come on Wilpon, open that fat wallet of yours already! Make a bid before the O's clamp down on another superstar. Jose Guillen? I'd rather not. There has been talk about Aubrey Huff in a trade from Tampa Bay and I would be for that. He has alot of talent. Maybe Geoff Jenkins? Preston Wilson?

vlad would be the dope shit but that would set our payroll at about 95-100 million. i can't blame wilpon for having short arms this year. guillen seems like a dick. huff has a great bat but AWFUL in the field. maybe having cameron would take away from that but he can't field for shit. his position is DH. i can't see jenkins and wilson strikes out a ton too.

i'd like to see them make a move for aj burnett if he doesn't get tendered though he probably won't be ready till may, we're in a rebuilding mode so i'm in no rush. save some cash and throw a shitload of it at kerry wood next year. though i'm sure he'll be a yankee. but hey, a boy can dream.

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stickyfingers

12-17-2003, 01:45 AM

Guillen is no longer an option...signed elsewhere

Let me just say that I would have absolutely no problem getting rid of piazza to an american league team for something decent (a good hitting right fielder or pitching)....I cannot sit back and watch him strike out and ground into so many double plays...he can be such an inning killer and that to me brings him way down in value over the length of a full season....Not many teams get a lot of offense out of thier cathers and do just fine...when you add in his inability to field I feel he can be a liability almost as much as an asset....he's 35 and on the downside of his career....its time to part ways and $15million won't be easy to pawn off.

I like a lineup of consisting of:

matsui (ss)
reyes (2b)
(whoever we get for piazza)..hopefully a good hitting right fielder
Floyd (lf)
cameron (Cf)
phillips (1B)
wiggington (3B)
Vance Wilson (C)
Pitcher

Jeff Duncan can back up 1st and any outfield position

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stickyfingers

12-17-2003, 01:47 AM

i also want to add this...if you are looking for a solid young pitcher you heard it here first....Adam Eaton is gonna have a breakout season and he is not signed right now

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RF Godfather

12-17-2003, 03:11 AM

Jose Guillen decided to go to Anaheim. Thought he wanted to live closer to his mother. Guess not.

i also want to add this...if you are looking for a solid young pitcher you heard it here first....Adam Eaton is gonna have a breakout season and he is not signed right nowEaton is very good and a prime pickup. We really need a hard thrower in our lineup!

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Jack_Doff

12-17-2003, 08:19 AM

not bad but he strikes out a ton but a solid glove. best cf since dykstra.

Forgetting Lance Johnson?

Non-tendered free agents this Saturday. The list is like a box of chocolates...most melt under heat and pressure.

Let the Orioles have Vlad and his bad back. Then we can trade for the cheaper, younger and talented Jay Gibbons and his 27 homers.

Teenweek

12-17-2003, 09:25 AM

I did not know the Mets even made offseason moves besides Matsui. Not a Mets fan here but they should serioulsy trade Piazza as he is being a diva not wanting to move to first.

Spank Daddy

12-17-2003, 09:48 AM

Not a Mets fan here but they should serioulsy trade Piazza as he is being a diva not wanting to move to first.

Funny thing about Piazza....... if he were to demand a trade, he'd probably get sent to the AL, and the next team will start using him as a DH, which means no field playing time for Mikey at all. The grass is definitly greener when watching from the bench. Pick up the damn first baseman's glove and suck it up for the team so we can have your bat in the line-up everyday.

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Jack_Doff

12-17-2003, 10:19 AM

I think Piazza is afraid that he'll be exposed for the poor athelete that he is. I, and many others, equate athletics with footwork, which Piazza has little. Piazza has a strong arm behind the plate (really), it's just that his footwork coming out from behind is so poor, he can't throw anyone out. At first, think of the limited range. I think Mike has, and that's part of why he is trying to hide behind the plate. He is a DH, pure and simple. Give it up Mike.

newport king

12-17-2003, 01:18 PM

1 million to resign john franco. while he should retire a met and a million bucks is like baseball welfare couldn't we have offered a minor league deal with incetives thrown in? i mean he's like 42 with a reconstructed elbow. i don't think he would have been in high demand.

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WindowSill

12-17-2003, 01:30 PM

Why not go after Brian Jordan?
Theyre probably gonna get Billy Koch but Id rather get Scott Williamson.
I would definitely go after Ponson...I would like an Adam Eaton or Jarrod Washburn but they might go after Jose Lima.
Piazza is staying.
Oh and the Mets have re-signed Franco thru 2004

stickyfingers

12-17-2003, 01:51 PM

Why not go after Brian Jordan?

He just had knee surgery....If he is healthy I wouldn't mind picking him up

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Jack_Doff

12-17-2003, 01:56 PM

Plus, Jordan generally kills the Mets. He's a nemesis. If he's healthy he's be good, but he's no spring chicken.

RF Godfather

12-17-2003, 02:02 PM

Jeff Cirillo from Seattle is on the verge to be traded for Roger Cedeno... a dump for a dump. I could careless aobut this but as long as Cedeno is gone, I am happy.

Now go after Vlad! Or to a lesser extent an Aubrey Huff or Jay Gibbons. Go young, not Jordan!

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Spank Daddy

12-17-2003, 02:07 PM

Oh and the Mets have re-signed Franco thru 2004

Just fuckin' retire already, you suck !!! You sucked 10 years ago, now you super-suck. Screw his community ties and charity work, this is not a good reason to keep this guy on the roster. How many more games does he have to blow before the front office gets tired of his act ( because the fans have been tired of this for years ). I'm sure all the Met players have no confidence in Franco when he hits the mound. Every time Franco blew a lead, I would look to see Piazza's face, and it was full of disgust. Hey Wilpons........he sucks !!!! What a shitty move.

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RF Godfather

12-17-2003, 02:20 PM

Franco should be the Mets co-pitching coach and not take up a roster space for a young guy like Moreno (not that young) or Royce Ring.

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RF Godfather

12-17-2003, 02:25 PM

What do you think of Raul Gonzalez as our starting RFer if all our trade possibilities fizzle out? He's not what I would want but was mentioned at mets.com. He's a serviceable 4th or 5th outfielder in my opinion.

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newport king

12-17-2003, 03:35 PM

gonzalez...eh. i'd like to see them teach timo perez how to hit lefties he has a decent arm and good speed. i also heard sweeny murti earlier this week on the fan saying the yankees would probably non tender karim garcia. because they have no room for him. while he wouldn't be a savior he can be had pretty cheaply (which is they way the mets look like they are going) and who knows maybe given the chance he can be an every day player. i just didn't like the guys smug look on his face like he was a hall of famer during the post season. the guy was barely on the roster.

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RF Godfather

12-20-2003, 03:34 AM

Mets resign Timoniel Perez and Joey McEwing yesteday. I guess that was smart. Both underachieved again but I have a soft spot for McEwing.

Thoughts about this one?

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Spank Daddy

12-20-2003, 07:18 AM

Re-signing Timo Perez and Super Joe was a good move, as both of them are good bench players ( and seeing that the Mets keep them around they are probably good locker room people, too. )

The trick Art Howe has to do is keep them in the line-up when they're hot, and sit them when they cool off. I wish Timo could be more consistant, then we wouldn't need to be looking for a right fielder. Timo's got great speed and some power, and makes good contact on the ball when he's hitting good. Super Joe gives the Mets great flexibility, as he could even catch a game if needed, but his stick is a little weak, and he strikes out alot.

The Metsies are not done yet........the non-tender list is out tonight, and the Mets will do some deals. I just hope that if they do trade a quality guy ( like Wiggington or Philips ), they get something of value back ( like when they traded Hubie Brooks for Gary Carter ).

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RF Godfather

12-20-2003, 03:28 PM

From Mets.com

The Mets decided on Saturday afternoon that the time wasn't right to re-sign Scott Strickland. The club didn't tender an offer to the hard-throwing reliever, meaning he is now a free agent to negotiate with any club. GM Jim Duquette didn't rule out a return to Queens for Strickland, who underwent Tommy John surgery in June.

Oh well. Not that exciting. More room for the Lord of the RING!

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newport king

12-20-2003, 03:33 PM

when exactly does the non-tender list come out? and if you can find a link give yourself a gold star.

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irishkb

12-20-2003, 04:04 PM

signing those mets are a good move.. Super Joe can play anywhere and give you solid defense... timo along with ducan can handle right field if need be.. i am liking the moves we are making.. i just got my order form for my sunday tickets at shea and can't wait to send it in.. anything will be better than last year.... ugh.... lets go mets.......

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irishkb

12-20-2003, 04:11 PM

Well Cirillo just blocked the trade that would have sent him to the mets.... can't blame the guy for not wanting to move his family to ride the bench.... check out the link for the story...

cirillo says no (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/6940941)

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irishkb

12-20-2003, 05:26 PM

shit now the mets might try and bring back Jay Payton....

"Duquette, meanwhile, was hopeful of sifting through what was expected to be a record number of non-tenders Saturday night, hoping to find an outfielder, a starting pitcher and perhaps even a closer. One name that has been mentioned as a possible fit for right field is former Met Jay Payton, who said he'd be willing to listen if the Mets came calling.

"I'll have an interest in anyone who's interested in me," Payton said. "My goal is to gain a multiyear contract. My agent has just begun the process of deciding where I might be able to go. I have proven that I can play left and center, to me right field is no different than left. I don't have a cannon for an arm, but I make up for that in my ability to get to the ball quickly and get rid of it quickly. I will play wherever a team wants me to."

Payton hit .302 last season with the Rockies, his first full season away from Queens. He had 28 homers and 89 RBIs with a career-best 181 hits. While Coors Field generally inflates a player's numbers, Payton hit .281 with 15 homers and 39 RBIs away from Denver.

In addition, he has played in New York and when the Mets went to the World Series in 2000, he was the starting center fielder. He was never a favorite of former manager Bobby Valentine, though, and was traded to Colorado in 2002. Payton also had only four errors last season and is solid in the field"

are you kidding me.....

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BoondockSaint

12-20-2003, 05:27 PM

ESPN.com is saying Freddy Garcia may not be tendered. He would fit nicely in the Mets rotation.

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Johnny4

12-20-2003, 09:46 PM

Garcia was resigned by Seattle. They should take a look at this kid Johnson released by Baltimore. He throws hard and might be a good project for Peterson to work with.

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RF Godfather

12-21-2003, 02:14 AM

Here is the nontendered list from MLB.Com

12/20/2003 11:59 PM ET
List of non-tenders
Associated Press

The 58 players who were not tendered contracts by midnight ET Saturday, making them free agents free to negotiate with any team:

ANAHEIM (1) -- Shawn Wooten, INF.

ARIZONA (1) -- Rod Barajas, C.

BALTIMORE (2) -- Jason Johnson, RHP; Damian Moss, LHP.
BOSTON (6) -- Edwin Almonte, RHP; Damian Jackson, INF; Gabe Kapler, OF; Lou Merloni, INF; Scott Sauerbeck, LHP; Jason Shiell, RHP.

CHICAGO CUBS (3) -- Michael Barrett, C; Scott Chiasson, RHP; Randall Simon, 1B.

CINCINNATI (3) -- Russell Branyan, INF; Ruben Mateo, OF; Reggie Taylor, OF.
CLEVELAND (2) -- Danys Baez, RHP; Carl Sadler, LHP.

COLORADO (4) -- Jeromy Burnitz, OF; Scott Elarton, RHP; Jay Payton, OF; Kit Pellow, INF.

DETROIT (2) -- Ben Petrick, C; Andy Van Hekken, LHP.

FLORIDA (3) -- Armando Almanza, LHP; Toby Borland, RHP; Braden Looper, RHP.

HOUSTON (1) -- Nate Bland, LHP.
KANSAS CITY (1) -- Kris Wilson, RHP.

LOS ANGELES (3) -- Troy Brohawn, LHP; Alfredo Gonzalez, RHP; Derek Thompson, LHP.

MILWAUKEE (1) -- Jayson Durocher, RHP.

MINNESOTA (1) -- Augie Ojeda, INF.
MONTREAL (3) -- Orlando Hernandez, RHP; Hector Almonte, RHP; Britt Reames, RHP.

NEW YORK METS (3) -- Pedro Feliciano, LHP; Jeremy Hill, RHP; Scott Strickland, RHP.
NEW YORK YANKEES (2) -- David Dellucci, OF; Karim Garcia, OF.

OAKLAND (3) -- Frank Menechino, INF; Mark Redman, LHP; Jeremy Fikac, RHP.
PHILADELPHIA (2) -- Travis Chapman, 3B; Valerio De Los Santos, LHP.

PITTSBURGH (1) -- Mike Lincoln, RHP.

SAN DIEGO (3) -- Todd Sears, INF; Miguel Ojeda, C; Mike Matthews, LHP.

ST. LOUIS (1) -- Gene Stechshulte, RHP.
TAMPA BAY (3) -- Marlon Anderson, 2B; Gerardo Garcia, RHP; Jared Sandberg, INF.

TEXAS (1) -- Jason Tyner, OF.

TORONTO (2) -- Trever Miller, LHP; Cliff Politte, RHP.

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Damian Moss, Gabe Kapler, Payton, El Duke, Karim Garcia, and Redman would be solid fits on the Mets.

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irishkb

12-21-2003, 05:07 AM

jason johnson and moss would be nice... both are quaulity guys..... come on mets....nice work on the info joey.....

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WindowSill

12-21-2003, 05:47 AM

Moss is a good young pitcher I would definitely go after him. Johnson im not too sure about, he had a good season last year but if the Mets were to get Moss you wouldnt really have anywhere to put Johnson. I think the Mets should go after Braden Looper, hes a better closer than Billy Koch and you wouldnt have to give up anyone to get him. Cliff Politte is a good set up guy. They should get Edwin Almonte back from Boston he looked good last season, I think he has a lot of potential.

Johnny4

12-21-2003, 06:22 AM

Let's be honest. This list is not great. It more of a crap shoot than normal, since so many people were paying attention to this list this year. It looks like the GM's will be making a ton of trades this year. Looper and JOhnson are the only players the Mets should watch. Johnson is a Steve Trachsel type, should have been better his whole career than he is. He has a great curveball and would benefit from leaving the AL East, Camden Yards and gaining Barry Zito's coach.

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newport king

12-21-2003, 04:46 PM

I'd take dellucci or gabe kaplar. i've realized we ain't getting guerrero so we need a decent platoon out there.

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Bestinshow

12-22-2003, 03:40 PM

Isn't it strange how little you hear about Vlad? maybe as teams drop out (Such as Florida) maybe we can swoop in. The market is bad. He would be smarter if he signed a three year deal (considering he is only 27) because in three years he will still be young enough to demand a big contract. Unless he himself doesn't trust his back for the long haul......hm, something to think about.

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high fly

12-22-2003, 04:01 PM

Maybe they can get someone from the Knicks.

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Snoogans

12-22-2003, 04:03 PM

how about roger cedeno to the rangers and they send lindross to the knicks and the knicks send houston to the mets

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WindowSill

12-22-2003, 04:13 PM

Um...yeah...or not....whatever

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12-22-2003, 04:20 PM

Zippers give me trouble.

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RF Godfather

12-23-2003, 03:06 AM

The Mets on Monday signed Scott Strickland to a one-year deal worth $650,000, two days after not tendering him a contract. He was 0-2 with a 2.25 ERA in 19 games last year. New York also re-signed lefty Pedro Feliciano and righty Jeremy Hill to minor league deals.

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Bit whoop. Where the heck is the closer? RFer? And starting pitcher already?

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irishkb

12-23-2003, 04:11 AM

nice i like strickland, hopefully he will be good set up man or the man closing...
let's go mets....

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12-23-2003, 08:48 AM

Karim Garcia should be picked up by the mets now.

I would also look into picking up Jeromy Burnitz..believe it not.

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Jack_Doff

12-23-2003, 08:55 AM

Burnitz signed with Colorado. A little late on that one. Course, now watch him knock fifty out up there.

Spank Daddy

12-23-2003, 09:35 AM

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Jay Payton. He didn't exactly suck when he played here........have a platoon of Payton/Perez in right field. That would work if we didn't pursue Vlad.

Bestinshow, I agree.....give Vlad a 3-4 deal with tons of incentives, and structure it right so the Mets don't get burned if his back goes out. I say it's worth a shot, he's still young enough to bounce back from his back problems. Just his presence in the line-up would help.

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Johnny4

12-23-2003, 02:42 PM

I'm torn on how I feel about the A-Rod non trade. I'm happy because that greedy prick and the union come out looking like a couple of assholes. The truth be told, he wasn't willing to give up anything to leave Texas, no matter what they write. The endorsement money he would have picked up would have cancelled out any longterm givebacks.
The bad part for us Met fans is there goes our chance to steal Trot Nixon.

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Johnny4

12-23-2003, 03:02 PM

Kapler just resigned with the Sox.

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WindowSill

12-24-2003, 06:33 PM

The Mets have reported that they will sign relief pitcher R. Botallico to a minor league deal next month. Now I understand getting players who havent played up to their potential for a year or 2(Tony Clark for example) but Botallico hasnt been good since '97! WTF are they thinking.

On a better note, the Mets have expressed interest in former Marlins closer Branden Looper. Loopers agent has said that his client is considering moving to the Mets. I guess Looper is somewhat better than Koch...what do you guys think of all this?

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WindowSill

01-03-2004, 06:01 AM

The Mets have reportedly signed former Marlins closer Branden Looper to a 2 year deal. Finally a legit closer coming out of the bull pen for the Amazins....

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newport king

01-03-2004, 06:17 AM

now all we need to do is put someone in that gaping hole in right field. and find a sucker to take cedeno. and get another starter.

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RF Godfather

01-03-2004, 03:03 PM

Took long enough although I would have liked to give Ring a try. I like Looper, hell of a lot better than Blow-nitez.

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newport king

01-03-2004, 03:44 PM

i think thats why they only got him for 2 years, ring is still a bit young. theres also some talk on the mets board about him being a setup man for ring. so who knows.

~another newport king joint~

WindowSill

01-03-2004, 05:39 PM

I dont see why they arent going after Guerrero...especially right now when it seems as if everyone has backed off of him a little. Its not like hes asking for anything outrageous, hes a superstar and therfore deserves superstar money. I understand they want to lower their payroll dramatically but come on...its Vladimir Guerrero! Sure you pay more money than you want to but think of all the payoffs that he could bring.

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newport king

01-03-2004, 05:46 PM

as much as i love this team, everyone i know is bashing the wilpons for not spending the money this year. lest we forget this man just shelled out around 300 million in 2 years to finish dead last 2 years in a row. would i want to see guerrero roaming right field at shea for the next 7 years, no doubt, but it IS wilpons money i can't blame him if he is scared away about his back. at least they seem to have a plan and are sticking to it.

~another newport king joint~

irishkb

01-05-2004, 11:56 PM

I dont see why they arent going after Guerrero

cause of his bad back... the mets got killed with injuries in the last 2 years.. Mo's fucking none existant fucking knee, Piazza tearing his groin, Burnitz breaking his hand, and Floyds' bum aklies(sp)....and let's not forget the simple fact of the last career 300 hitter they signed couldn't hit a beach ball with a bat fuckng Alomar... what a fucking waste he was.. This years line up should be one of the most productive in a long time.. Matsui(sp), Reyes, Floyd, Piazza and Cameron are a nice combo of hitters... we actually got some speed now.. should help.....

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BoondockSaint

01-06-2004, 05:55 PM

espn is reporting that the Mets are now interested in Guerrero.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1701900

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Jack_Doff

01-07-2004, 09:05 AM

Mets after Guerrero (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1701900)

Looks like we are back in the game, boys!!!! At the same time, we are making a lowball offer, hope he is sucked in by NY and the latino population.

BoondockSaint

01-07-2004, 09:15 AM

hmm...That link looks familiar. Where have I seen that before.

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Jack_Doff

01-07-2004, 09:31 AM

Sorry bout that. I have no excuse except that my parents were first cousins.

WindowSill

01-07-2004, 04:17 PM

Told ya they should go after Guerrerro...Maybe Wilpon finally realized that if you invest money in Guerrero you get even more money comin your way.

I think it would be great seeing Vlad out in right for the Mets next season. That would be a hell of an OF with Floyd, Cameron, and Guerrero.

This is what I hope the Mets' lineup looks lie next season-

1- Reyes
2- Cameron
3- Guerrero
4- Piazza
5/6- Floyd
5/6- Matsui
7- Phillips
8- Wigginton

That would be hell of a lineup.
And dont tell me that Cameron strikes out too much to bat 2nd. The reason he struck out so much is because he batted in a spot where you had to hit for power. If he were to bat 2nd his main objective wouldnt be to swing for the fences but rather to get on base therfore his strikeouts would go down.

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-Louis Black

newport king

01-07-2004, 04:49 PM

1- Reyes
2- Cameron
3- Guerrero
4- Piazza
5/6- Floyd
5/6- Matsui
7- Phillips
8- Wigginton

this is an awful lineup. why would you put a guy that strikes out 150+ times a year up second? and matsui 5/6? from every report that came out they all said he is faster than ichiro. if we get guerrero, and its STILL a LOOOONG shot. this is what it would look like:

1. matsui
2. reyes
3. guerrero
4. floyd
5. piazza
6. cameron
7. phillips
8. wigginton

but lets stop kidding ourselves, roger fucking cedeno is gonna be patrolling right field.

~another newport king joint~

WindowSill

01-07-2004, 06:27 PM

Again, the reason Cameron strikes out so much is that he used to bat 5 in the Seattle lineup. And hes just not a #5 kinda guy. If you were to put him in a spot where his role was to get on base rather than hit homers his Ks would go down.

Matsui is fast but they would already have speed in the top 2 spots in Reyes and Cameron. From what I heard, Matsui isnt just fast but can hit for power and drive in runs. Of course they also said Hideki Matsui was gonna hit 50 homers last season...

Matsui would be able to do more damage from the six slot than a Cameron.

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-Louis Black

Bestinshow

01-07-2004, 09:24 PM

Its nice we finally have someone who can save a big game. Now hopefully they will have some leads to hand over to Looper.

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WindowSill

01-08-2004, 05:14 AM

Branden Loopers Lifetime Stats (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?statsId=5966)

He actually did pretty damn good last season, the ERA has room fro improvement but 29 SVS against 6 BSV isnt bad...

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Jack_Doff

01-08-2004, 06:54 AM

I don't know. The more I look at Braden Looper's stats, the less impressed I am with him. His WHIP (walks + hits per Innings pitched) is 1.39. That's a lot for a saver. The other stat thing, not that they necessarily mean anything is his K per 9 innings is 5.66. But lifetime, he still manages to throw 16.6 pitches per inning. For someone not striking a lot of people out, he sure throws a lot of pitches.

Crippler

01-08-2004, 09:04 AM

FYI Mets Fans:

Ed Coleman of WFAN just called in to Mac & Sid to report that, although there is no official explanation at the moment, the Mets & Mo Vaughn have called a press conf. for later this afternoon. Naturally it is assumed that Mo will announce his retirement due to his physical ailments, thus enacting the Mets' insurance policy & freeing up the majority of his large contract.

Could this mean a serious bid for Vlad is also forthcoming? Apparently he's on his way to Baltimore, but this makes things a little more interesting.

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Jack_Doff

01-08-2004, 09:29 AM

I love Mo, but about freaking time. I was reading a little blurb in the Post today about how some woman from Court TV got moved out of the VIP section of some club so Mo and his Posse could go in. I didn't think Mo had that kind of muscle anymore.

WindowSill

01-08-2004, 12:42 PM

Well its about time. Hopefully the Mets will use the money thay would have been paying Mo toward more useful players, wherter it be Guerrero or a new pitcher or both. Though it does look like Vlad is gonna be in Baltimore next season.

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who6489

01-08-2004, 08:34 PM

Even though it's a slow burn with the Mets hot stove, things don't look bad so far. I was happy they got Matsui, Cameron and Looper. It would be nice to have Vlad, but I'm not holdin' my breath.
I too like Mo, but the writing was on the wall.
I think they'll be around .500 this season, and I'm cool with that. Maybe the playoffs in '05. We shall see.

Take it easy Clarky

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Bestinshow

01-08-2004, 10:29 PM

I hope this isnt a pipe dream. (http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/44659.htm)

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WindowSill

01-09-2004, 05:24 AM

Despite the back injury he still hit 25 home runs, 17 of which came after he returned from over a month on the DL in July. Why dont we want this guy again?

If the Mets really want this guy theyre going to have to guarantee Vlad more years. I know they are trying to be on the safe side, but lets face it if you had 3 guaranteed years or 5 years what would you pick?

Its might he hard to top a Baltimore offer of 6 years though.

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irishkb

01-09-2004, 06:03 AM

news on Mo... (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1703630)

Just fucking retire and stop wasting everyone's time and fucking money... just retire you greedy bastard....
enough is enough... "we would call it a retirement but he won't be playing in 04 or 05... probably never again."
well shit that sounds like retirement to me.....

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BoondockSaint

01-09-2004, 06:27 AM

He can't "officially" retire because of the insurance. If he retires he does't get paid. This way he still gets paid and the Mets collect the insurance money.

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newport king

01-09-2004, 07:11 AM

as a lifelong met fan i can't think of anything more gooder than to get guerrero but you guys have to be honest. its the mets. they'll find a way to fuck it up. as for all the talk about the mets being involved in a bidding war now, i don't get it. it seems their selling point is that there are dominicans in NY. and he could stay in the national league. IF he signs with the mets he'll be playing at shea which is
A. NOT a hitters park
B. a cruel, cruel town to lose in

if he signs with baltimore he gets:
A. guaranteed money instead of some pay by play half assed offer the mets are putting up
B. plays in a league where the pitching is 2nd rate to the national league as a whole
C. a park where he can easily hit 45-60 hrs per year

i'm just trying to be objective here. would i like to see him sure. but i have to be realistic and get excited about it when i see it.

~another newport king joint~

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irishkb

01-09-2004, 07:16 AM

so newport, you are doing that whole reverse psychology thing right... haha

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newport king

01-09-2004, 07:19 AM

yeah pretty much

~another newport king joint~

irishkb

01-09-2004, 10:24 AM

from the met's website

bid on Valdie.... (http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/nym/news/nym_news.jsp?ymd=20040109&content_id=626603&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyn)

well 30million for 3 years isn't bad.. plus they said the offers has huge incentives....

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Iamnotatool

01-09-2004, 12:12 PM

Please God, let him come to the Mets. Please. We've suffered so long.

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newport king

01-09-2004, 12:36 PM

i still think we've got a better chance at defrosting ted williams's head and attaching it to a robot than him coming here.

~another newport king joint~

RF Godfather

01-09-2004, 02:53 PM

Oh God please Vlad. We NEED YOU!

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newport king

01-09-2004, 03:19 PM

the way people are talking is we might actualy get this done.

~another newport king joint~

Jackie Sloan

01-09-2004, 03:24 PM

Vlad's a perfect fit. They need to get this done.

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WindowSill

01-09-2004, 04:24 PM

reported to be a three-year deal with a base salary of $30 million, or go to Baltimore, which has offered a five-year, $65 million deal.

Hm...thats a tough decision...wonder what team he'll choose...

Lets see 5 year deal, 13 mill a season
or
3 years, 10 mill a pop

THATS THE BEST THE METS CAN DO?! Need I remind you that this is the same team that traded for Mo Vaughn who hadnt playued in a year and still had a lot of money and multiyears left on his contract?!
I understand that it is a different philosophy now, but come on! Cant you have like 17 specialists to examine him and if he passes then give him a big contract?

But no, why do that when you can just tell him that there are a lot of Dominicans living in NY...

"The reason I like Cleavland so much is that your idea of being politically correct is apologizing to a girl after you rape her" -Lil Jimmy Norton

newport king

01-09-2004, 04:34 PM

from espninsider

Jan. 9 - The Mets finally have a made a formal offer to Guerrero -- a three-year deal worth slightly more than $30 million that increases to $40 million with incentives, according to the New York Newsday. The bid to land Guerrero now is a two-team race between the Mets and the Orioles. But Guerrero reportedly is cooling on the Orioles' five-year, $65 million offer. He reportedly prefers to stay in the National League and live in New York, a city that has a large Dominican population.

i know i was a pessimist about this bt i'm starting to think it may happen.

~another newport king joint~

WindowSill

01-09-2004, 06:47 PM

He reportedly prefers to stay in the National League and live in New York, a city that has a large Dominican population.

Wasnt this the same guy that didnt want to play in a big city...yet he prefers to play in the biggest city in the world?
Not that Im complaining.
Im with Newport King on this one. I thought for sure that the Orioles were gonna get him with the deal they offered him but now things may be looking up:)

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newport king

01-09-2004, 08:32 PM

yeah all off season i've been hearing about how he lives with his mommy, and won't live in a big city.

~another newport king joint~

RF Godfather

01-10-2004, 03:25 AM

Wouldn't you think that Vlad would have already signed with Baltimore cuz he was offered that deal prior to Christmas? I heard rumblings about LA wanting to be in the chase but new ownership for them is in two weeks and apparently Shawn Green is taking grounders at first? Nooooo!

Hopefully this incentive package could be a selling point to Vlad. You want a huge Dominican population? GET OVA HERE NOW! Nothing bigger than in the greatest city in the world.

We want you. New York wants you! Vlad you would be perfect in New York!

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newport king

01-10-2004, 08:16 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1704992

This message was edited by newport king on 1-10-04 @ 12:26 PM

irishkb

01-10-2004, 10:01 AM

hello, Mr. Reyes... get on the horn and tell Vlad how great NYC is.... come on work the Dominican angle..... PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Iamnotatool

01-10-2004, 10:43 AM

Fuckin Marlins. I lived down there for years, there are plenty of immigrants for him to play for there. This don't smell good....

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newport king

01-10-2004, 11:46 AM

there is now some talk on the mets board that the players union may get involved if he signs with the mets for less guaranteed money.

someone make me a sig and teach me to post pics.

BoondockSaint

01-10-2004, 06:55 PM

Fuck you Mr. Wilpon.

We lose out, again (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1705347)

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WindowSill

01-10-2004, 06:58 PM

So wait, hes gonna turn down a 5 year offer from Baltimore with over 13 mill a season and a 3 year deal from the Mets also possibly worth over 13 mill a season after incentives, to go to florida for 1 year for somewhere vetween the 10-14 mill range?!

WTF IS THAT?!
World Champions or not theyre not going anywhere soon where as the mets can and will be in the playoffs within 2-3 years...hell if they play their cards rite and sign vlad and a good starter maybe even this year...and where the hell are the marlins gettin all this money from? last year it was pudge, now Vlad...

Come on Wilpon, get real, offer this guy what he wants and you'll get what you want...$$$

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newport king

01-10-2004, 06:58 PM

i told you we would fuck this up, hey at least we can laugh when fly balls are bouncing off roger cedeno's head this year.

~a newport king joint~

SuperClerk

01-10-2004, 06:58 PM

Another one gets away.

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BoondockSaint

01-10-2004, 07:04 PM

Come on Wilpon, get real, offer this guy what he wants and you'll get what you want...$$$

More like get what all your money paying fans want. This sucks. You know what, up until a few days ago, when thay had not made an offer, I was sort of rezined (sp?) to that fact. Once they made an offer they got my hopes up. Now they can take their ticket plans and shove them. I won't go to one game this year.

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newport king

01-10-2004, 07:07 PM

i really can't blame wilpon for this one. he has to do whats best financially for his team. he's gotten beat in the past signing ridiculous contracts to players with health problems (see moo vaughn). and no insurance company would have covered a preexisting injury. as much as i want him here. at least now wilpon can say he at least tried.
who knows it might not e so bad, danny garcia is tearing up winter ball, and he isn't going to be playing 2nd anytime soon with reyes there. move the kid to rf when aaa starts and maybe he'll progress enough by 2005 to have him up here.

~a newport king joint~

BoondockSaint

01-10-2004, 07:17 PM

[quote]at least now wilpon can say he at least tried.[quote]

Well, that don't get it done in my book. This guy could have turned around the team like Piazza did in '98. You're waiting on Garcia? If he comes up and hits .260 9 hrs and 40 rbi it would be a good year for him. Or lets just say Vlad only plays 112 games again this year and goes .330 25 hrs and 70 somethig rbi. I'll take Vlad.

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newport king

01-10-2004, 07:20 PM

15 mil for 112 games? dude you have to remember he dropped something like 120 MILLLLLLION dollars to come in dead last....2 YEARS in a row!! maybe if it was a few years removed from the whole vaughn, burnitz, alomar debacle i could complain but the wounds are still fresh.

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This message was edited by newport king on 1-10-04 @ 11:21 PM

BoondockSaint

01-10-2004, 07:26 PM

Got a lot of money back from Vaughn. Also, the $120 million payroll was alot of Doubleday's money. But this guy is not Vaughn who missed a whole season and was 34. Or Burnitz who stunk in NY the first time. Alomar you cant argue. Just think, who in the next 3 years will be a free agent of this quality?

Edit: It's the Angels !Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/breaking_news/story/153729p-135284c.html)

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newport king

01-10-2004, 07:43 PM

BoondockSaint

01-10-2004, 07:47 PM

actually next years free agent class is pretty good:
eric chavez
pedro martinez
kerry wood
richard hidalgo
trevor hoffman
carlos beltran
just to name a few. of course they will all be yankees.

~a newport king joint~

eric chavez=interesting
pedro martinez=turning into Maddox who can't go more then 6
kerry wood=yeah right
richard hidalgo= keep him
trevor hoffman=didn't we just sign Looper
carlos beltran=Can't argue with him.

But for Wilpon's sake Vlad better blow out his back in the next five years.
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newport king

01-10-2004, 07:48 PM

i know thats what i said

~a newport king joint~

BoondockSaint

01-10-2004, 07:57 PM

And wait Beltran plays Cf. We just signed Cameron for 3 years.

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newport king

01-10-2004, 08:07 PM

i think looper could and will be used as a set up man eventually if not for another closer, someone like a royce ring or a tyler yates if they make him into a closer.
hidalgo i wouldnt want either but i was just throwing out names, not specific to the mets needs.
wood will be a yankee after they throw a 10 year 170 million dollar contract at him.
and cmon beltran can't play RF?

~a newport king joint~

BoondockSaint

01-10-2004, 08:10 PM

I'm not saying Beltran can't play RF but why would he? He is going to be the free agent CF and CF's command more money.

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newport king

01-10-2004, 08:41 PM

two words that will make this all better boys and girl....todd zeile.

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douchebagsean

01-10-2004, 08:48 PM

im officially through rooting for the mets until they have new ownership. im sick and tired of the weak moves they make. they didnt go after a-rod or vlad, both top stars in their primes, instead they go after glavin, vaughn, alomar, bobby bo, all former allstars on the downturn of their careers. its not that i mind rooting for a minor league caliber team, but those douchebags charge alot of money to watch these bad-news-bears knockoffs play ball. if they are going to charge big league prices i want a big league fing team. ugh mike cameron my left nut.

RF Godfather

01-11-2004, 02:29 AM

FUCK YOU ANAHEIM!

Apparently they swooped in and took Vlad from us. You sons of bitches! He was ours! Mothafuckas!

You already have 3 fucking outfielders on your team and took Guillen from us earlier in the winter. Why did you have to do this to us last second?

Dangling the fucking carrot in front of us for a day and then bang.... motherfucker!

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yarpwizard

01-11-2004, 02:40 AM

If the Met outfield stays the way it is = 100 loses....worst front office in baseball....Wilpon must sell the team NOW!

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newport king

01-11-2004, 07:44 AM

hey in todays bergen record it says that greg maddux is the mets next target. typical. make a half assed attempt at a superstar in their prime, then when you miss out go get a great player from about 7 years ago. you know i've always liked the boston redsox too, just based on the fact that they hate the yankees, and they gave us the championship in 86. maybe its time to jump ship completely.
heres the link..
http://www.northjersey.com/

~a newport king joint~

who6489

01-11-2004, 08:09 AM

I can't believe this! Vlad looks to going to the Angels and the Mets want Maddox?!

WE DON'T WANT HIM! :mad:

Yeah, he WAS a great pitcher, but like Glavine, he's on the back end of his carreer. And we need relief more than starting! Yeah, the starting lineup isn't stellar, but middle relief is bare! I like Franco and all, but he's 42! Retire him and make him pitching coach.

Now I had a feeling we were not going to get Vlad anyway, but I was looking foward to takin' the road trip down to Camden Yards to see him. So much for that. :confuse:

Take it easy Clarky

RF Godfather

01-11-2004, 09:13 AM

Why do we continue with the gaining of older players. We don't need him.

What the hell are we going to do with RF? Cedeno better not be our fucking starting RFer or I'll jump off the ship right now!

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irishkb

01-11-2004, 10:34 AM

Cedeno better not be our fucking starting RFer or I'll jump off the ship right now!

no you won't joey.... I can't believe that the Angels got him... just unfucking real..... well at least he is not in the east anymore.... now that he is not on the mets' i can wish bad thing on him. ahhaaaaaaaa.... just trade Cedeno for a twix bar and some beer and just start Ducan in RF...

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mothershucker

01-11-2004, 11:00 AM

Cedeno better not be our fucking starting RFer or I'll jump off the ship right now!

Oh, it's true, it's true..............

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yarpwizard

01-11-2004, 04:35 PM

I've been a Mets fan since day 1.....If they get Maddox I will not watch one game this season. Again, they have the worst front office in baseball. Please for the love of God, Wilpon sell the team!

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WindowSill

01-12-2004, 05:23 AM

I wouldnt mind Maddux as long as they sign him for 1 year and not a lot of money. Plus you can develop all your young relievers the games that he starts. He would be a decent 4th guy in the rotation.

As far as next years FAs are concerned I think you forgot
Mark Mulder
Barry Zito

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newport king

01-12-2004, 03:10 PM

Barry Zito LHP OAK Signed May 2002 - 4 years/$9.3M
2002: $0.5M (+$0.4M signing bonus)
2003: $0.9M
2004: $2.7M
2005: $4.8M
2006: Team option $7.0M
-2004 salary rises to $2.8M with 400IP in 2002-3, $2.9M for 420IP
-2005 salary rises to between $4.9M and $5.5M with 540-630IP 2002-4
-2006 option rises to $7.2M with 570IP 2002-5, to $8.25M with a Cy Young win

Mark Mulder LHP OAK Signed Sep 2001 - 4 years/$14.2M
2002: $0.75M (+$0.2M signing bonus)
2003: $2.6M
2004: $4.4M
2005: $6.0M
2006: Team option $7.25M or $0.25M buyout
-2005 salary can increase by $1M, 2006 by $8.5M if he reaches all incentives

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WindowSill

01-12-2004, 05:59 PM

Oh...ok...my bad. Thought they were gonna be FAs next season.

Anyway I still dont want Maddux, hell Id rather they go after Jose Lima. And why not sign Damian Moss?

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WindowSill

01-14-2004, 04:06 AM

Jay Payton is now a Padre...how bout that? Well at least thats one guy that we dont have to worry about coming to the Mets. Hopefully Maddux will soon be another one of those guys.

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who6489

01-14-2004, 04:01 PM

ESPN News just reported that they signed Karim Garcia and Todd Zeile (AGAIN)

YUCK!

That's all I have to say
:mad:

Take it easy Clarky

newport king

01-14-2004, 04:02 PM

as of right now i hear we are close to getting karim garcia and todd zeile. you can leave zeile that seems like a move to appease the veterans on the club with all the influence. garcia, eh, while he is a former yankee and i don't like the arrogant face he had in the post season especially since he sould be a aaa lifer, but whatever it's better than watching roger cedeno kicking around the ball in right field

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RF Godfather

01-15-2004, 03:04 AM

Stupid, stupid fucking Mets!

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WindowSill

01-15-2004, 04:08 AM

GET ME THE SHARP KNIFE, IM GONNA CUT MY THROAT!

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HarborHound

01-15-2004, 07:02 AM

We got Karim Garcia.

Break up the METS

yo man former CAPO

WindowSill

01-17-2004, 04:07 AM

Oh god please dont let Garcia and Zeile pass their physicals...

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RF Godfather

01-17-2004, 04:46 AM

Well although I hate to admit it cuz we were so close to signing Vlad, you have to admit that Karim is an upgrade if you consider having Cedeno or Timo or Raul starting, right? Also he is a hardnosed player that will give you decent speed and some pop, right? Not too bad but by the Mets dangling the gold carrot, Vlad in front of us last weekend it does seem like a bigger disappointment than at first glance.

Zeile, was really unnecessary. He'll play like 5-6 games as a backup. Ugh, why him.

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irishkb

01-19-2004, 04:08 AM

nothing the mets could have done would have landed Vlad in shea if that man's mama did want to move to NY. He is very much tied to his mom's left tit... she said she did not want to go anywhere it is cold.. hence why Montreal, who gave a good offer, the Oriles(sp) who must really be pissed and the Met's all lost out. His mom wanted to be warm and now she will be... I don't like Ziele(sp) and could care less about Garicia but anything is better than Crapdeno in RF....

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