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curtoid
01-13-2004, 10:24 AM
Ok...so what do people think of using spankings as a punishment for children? In the last few years I've actually met some very liberal friends of mine who voice the opinion that most children could use a good smack, while some of my conservative friends would rather cut off their hand than warm the butt of their child.

Maybe that's a reflection of economics - people who are poor have less to with-hold from their child, so taking a toy away that they don't have may not be the route they go; you see and hear very little about wealthy kids who got swatted.

Does it create a fetish issue later in life? Speaking only for myself, I was only spanked 3 or 4 times, and I can't think of anything worse today than that - nothing at all exciting about those experiences. But(t) I don't know.

Since I don't have kids yet, if ever, I really don't know how I would/will react. There is part of me that does agree with the belief that hitting, no matter what the reason, is wrong - especially striking a child like that. You would get arrested for hitting an adult, then why not a child?

Then there is the other part of me that feels slightly different - that having "the spanking" as something on the table, if never even used, is an effective deterent. Of course, children being children, they will eventually test that, and hopefully one spanking would be enough to let them know that it really is an option.

I've got three godsons (ages 16, 18, 21). The oldest one was spanked by his folks when he was little, the middle one wasn't spanked that often, and the 3rd one was never spanked, because by the time they got to him, his mother and father decided to try other methods.

As young men, there is really no telling the three apart. They are all smart and funny and (for the most part) respectful. None of them are into smoking or drugs - two are into sports - two have hot girlfriends. Ironically, the youngest one did go through a *phase* when HE was hitting people on the butts, but today they are better than most (in my humble opinion), due in large part to good parenting by their folks - even if some were spanked, more than others.

Thoughts?

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TheCosmicCircus
01-13-2004, 10:32 AM
Punching children should be more acceptable.

kids suck.

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Tall_James
01-13-2004, 10:35 AM
kids suck.

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A.J.
01-13-2004, 10:41 AM
More of these snotty kids I see today could benefit from a good thrashing.

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TheMojoPin
01-13-2004, 10:41 AM
I can count on one hand the number of times I was spanked/slapped/had my mouth washed out with soap/etc. as a kid...but they worked. It was never the the actual act of spanking itself that scared me...just the threat. My parents didn't have to spank me to discipline me...because they did it early enough in my life and at the right times to get me respecting/fearing just the IDEA of being spanked.

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Furtherman
01-13-2004, 10:44 AM
Kids absolutley need a good smack when they are misbehaving. Or they'll turn out spoiled and overall assholes.

Personally, I got the shit beat out of me when I was bad, so I wouldn't go that far. All kitchen utensils will stay in the kitchen.

But yea, spanking in necessary.

Sponge baths with grandma are not.


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01-13-2004, 10:46 AM
I have no idea what you people are talking about........



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serVice
01-13-2004, 10:50 AM
kids suck.




kids are your audience. be nice.



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Arienette
01-13-2004, 04:44 PM
i am against spankings. i was never spanked as a child, and i think that my parents did the right thing. there are many ways to discipline kids without resorting to violence. i think it's cruel and unecessary. i would never hit my kids.

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newport king
01-13-2004, 04:51 PM
spanking is much better than my grandmothers approach. she was off the boat from ireland, and watched me during the day while my mom worked. her form of punishment was to put uncooked rice on the cement stoop on her back porch and make me kneel on it for a good half hour to an hour. this sucked in the summer when i wore shorts. good times.

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sr71blackbird
01-13-2004, 04:51 PM
I was spanked, and I see the value in a physical punishment when a verbal reprimand doesnt get the idea across. Im not advocating beatings, but I think that its ok to say:
1st Ill ask you
Then Ill tell you
Then Ill make you

I have brothers and sisters in laws that Ive witnessed giving their kids such a wallop that they were projected across the room, and I had to say Enough on a few occasions.
I dont know where the fetish idea came from, maybe seek help..... :confuse:

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curtoid
01-13-2004, 05:00 PM
I dont know where the fetish idea came from


Some anti-spanking advocates suggest that it is dangerous because it could lead to the child being spanked to later develop an unhealthy sexual attraction to physical pain.

There is also a danger with those adult who do get off on spanking/beating children.

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt
01-13-2004, 05:06 PM
I was threatened with spankings. That was enough for me. I was an exceptional child. ;p

To be honest, I have no plans on having children just because spankings are verboten. No, I don't condone beating a child in any way, shape, or form, BUT children DO push the limits and often "test" who is in charge. I was on a train not so long ago. There was a mother and son behind my seat. The kid was a brat. He kept kicking my seat and insulting his mother. Her response? "You shouldn't talk that way to adults. That's not nice."

Fuck that! I would have put that kid in his seat and said, "I'm your mother. Be respectful or be punished. And stop kicking that lady's seat."

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newport king
01-13-2004, 05:16 PM
recently i was in hoboken to pick up my newborn son's birth certificate and there was a girl there with her son in a carriage. now while the kid was incessantly whining for no particular reason. while it was annoying he wasn't really bothering anyone on line. now this mother must have said "damn kid imma knock you tha fuck out" (add a rosie perez accent) at least 20 times in 45 minutes. i honestly just thing parents have no idea how to control their kids. let them love you but make them fear you. and spankings won't really be necessary.

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hyperspace
01-13-2004, 05:19 PM
all i can say is i was never spanked as child. my parents were very easy going people.....and look at me now!

TheGameHHH
01-13-2004, 05:21 PM
hey, my father used to beat the living shit out of me and looking back on it i'm glad he did and i'm looking forward to beating the shit out of my kids

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MattyBronx
01-13-2004, 05:21 PM
I've got 2 daughters - 3yrs & 3mos - and this is something my wife & I have discussed several times.

The 3 year old has had her little ass spanked twice so far - one hit, open hand, hard enough to make smack sound, soft enough not to sting. I felt horrible doing it both times. It does hurt you more than it hurts them.

So now all I need to do is threaten to smack her little butt and she gets in line (actually, that's how she got the second spanking - I threatened her and she called me on it).

We have smacked the back of her little hands a few times also - same deal, light hits that don't hurt but make that small smack sound - when she touches things that she's not supposed to (like her sleeping baby sister). Now all we need to do is threaten her with that also and she backs off.

We used to take away toys to discipline her but that doesn't work anymore because she's got so many toys she doesn't notice when something's missing.

The 3 month old just gets all out beatings with a belt. That little bitch needs to learn.


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blakjeezis
01-13-2004, 05:41 PM
I was smacked as a child, many, many times and look how I turned out. Usually it was a cuff on the back of the head from my father, occasionally a full out spanking. I'm still in favor of it however. Chris Rock said it best, "There's 4 ass-whuppin's every child should get: Lyin', Cheatin', Stealin', and Disrespectin'."

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Snoogans
01-13-2004, 05:43 PM
ask DJEvelEd about it, he buys them all the time

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DESERTEAGLE.50
01-13-2004, 05:56 PM
Dont mix your kinks w/ your kids, IMO.

My Dad used to lay into me for very minor things and it made me spiteful towards my parents.

I dont intend to spank my children, if I even ever have them. My wish is to set up my relationship w/ my children in such a way that my disapproval and level of being upset will be enough of a punishment.

I think that if you have the right type of parent/child relationship w/ your kids, which prolly isnt easy, you changing how you act toward them as a result of their bad actions would be enuff of a punishment.

I spank my gf, and thats enuff for both of us.

It makes me feel POWERFUL...cause I need that sort of thing.
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guttersnipe
01-13-2004, 07:06 PM
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monsterone
01-13-2004, 07:21 PM
i think i got the idea from am eddie murphy bit, but this disciple is directed toward my dog, an alpha male. it's a 4 stager:

1. "do you want a shoe?"
2. make reaching motion for foot to take off shoe
3. take off shoe
4. whip it at the dogs head

stage 1 usually diffuses a situation. i rarely have to even say it now (can't remember the last time i did). but when he was a puppy, i had to establish my role as the alpha male. if he chose to ignore 1, it went to 2. usually could get a cringe, and he'd stop. if he was really rambuncious, i'd repeat, "do you want a shoe?" and he'd see the shoe in my hand. if he chose to continue, he'd get a size 13 bouncing of the side of his head. considering the terror he was early on, he is an absolute angel today. sure, when i get kids it won't be a shoe, but a staged approach seems to work. the kid will choose their destiny.

was it the south park episode about a.d.d., with *SMACK* "SHUT UP AND STUDY!!!"

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A.J.
01-14-2004, 04:28 AM
"It's spanking season, and I got a hankering for some spankering!"

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TheCosmicCircus
01-14-2004, 09:55 AM
p.s. Perry, I know you're trying to be all *shocking* and whatnot, but come on. Thank goodness they weren't looking over my shoulder when I read your post.


or thank goodness they wernt there when I had you tied up and gagged & drenched in lighter fluid.
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TheCosmicCircus
01-14-2004, 10:01 AM
fed you from her breasts for over a year, wiped your ass for three years, and has loved and nurtured and supported you every second of your life.


I know. Thank you for all the love and milk.
However, we did agree to no longer live our sex life in public... so shhhh.
or Im going to have to discipline you.... AGAIN.

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Iamnotatool
01-14-2004, 10:03 AM
Yup. Perry is still being foolish, irrelevant, and unfunny. Trying to be offensive, but not succeeding.



Go away.





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Tazz
01-14-2004, 10:28 AM
I was spanked a few times as a kid, nothing major. I also have a fetish for it. I don't think there is any connection between the two. But being that I have the kink, I would never spank a child. My girlfiend on the other hand, now that's fun for everyone.

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JustJon
01-14-2004, 10:50 AM
If a child does something strong enough to warrant it, then a good smack on the ass may be the only way to get the message across.

And if I smack my gf on the ass, it's a whole diff thing.

And I was spanked as a child, and well, I may not be normal, but it has nothing to do with being spanked.

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East Side Dave
01-14-2004, 10:51 AM
People should do what my dad did to me. He would take off his belt and say "I'm a-gonna punish you Michael Hutchence-style! Yeeehhaaaw!"

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Jennitalia
01-14-2004, 10:55 AM
And if I smack my gf on the ass, it's a whole diff thing.

yeah, but most of the time, i've done something to deserve it

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guttersnipe
01-14-2004, 11:18 AM
Yup. Perry is still being foolish, irrelevant, and unfunny. Trying to be offensive, but not succeeding.

Oh I don't know, he seems to be succeeding pretty well with you.

Anyway, It's so nice to see all you people coming out of the closet about your spanking fetishes! I guess I can take off my "I Do The Things You're Scared To Fantasize About" t-shirt now.

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silera
01-14-2004, 12:49 PM
I wonder if the idea of taking away toys or priviledges from kids makes them grow up to believe that they deserve something be it monetarily or materialistic just to simply behave by the rules. It's hard to express it but in essence, if spanking a child for bad behaviour leads to fetishes, wouldn't rewarding a child for good behaviour or depriving a child for bad behaviour also translate the same way?

As for my kids, spankings aren't the norm in my house, but I won't swear it off. Minor offenses get the standard "no playstation, no tv, etc." Disrespect me or do something dangerous and I will either smack on the spot or advise them that they will get spanked when we get home (which always provides a wonderful period of heartwrenching requests for leniency until we arrive home).

Either way, you can never say never, because if you do you give your kids leverage. It's been proven that even toddlers can tell when their parents have reached their limit by the tone of their voice. Kids by nature push limits, and will try to go all the way up to the line and then immediately retreat.

I'll stop rambling.



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hyperspace
01-14-2004, 12:52 PM
im my house growing up my dad could get his point across by simply yelling. he got like Norman Bates when he was angry and it scared the shit out of us!!!! that's all it took!! and Silera now i'm really hot!

Justice4all
01-14-2004, 01:05 PM
As for my kids, spankings aren't the norm in my house, but I won't swear it off. Minor offenses get the standard "no playstation, no tv, etc." Disrespect me or do something dangerous and I will either smack on the spot or advise them that they will get spanked when we get home (which always provides a wonderful period of heartwrenching requests for leniency until we arrive home).


Ahhhhh reminds me of the good old days "Don't MAKE me stop this car and come back there!"
Silera....I have said it before and I will say it again...you are one COOL mom!

I was a product of spankings in my house...as was my brothers. I did not see my sister get many. My mother stopped spanking me when she broke the wooden spoon over my back and I looked at her and smiled and said..."I guess we move on to groundings from here on out?" (I couldn't help it...I was pissed and a smart ass)
I think Silera is correct....it all depends on the degree of the crime. I have had my mouth washed out with soap because I have cursed in front of my parents. But I also had light punishments because I simply caused an accident. (like breaking a lamp)
Now-a-days the "Wait until your father/mother gets home" threat carries little if any weight like when I was a kid.
I will spank my child if he/she would ever get out of line so badly they would cause a scene or act in a way that I would not accept and they know it. When kids push their parents around and get little if any retribution they will do it for a loooooong time then.
I have a friend with kids and she told me the argument to NO spank your kids is pain hurts only for a minute and then they forget about it.
So I said.."Why not SPANK the child AND punish them?"
Hey it worked for me....if I ever talked to my parents the way some of these kids speak to theirs? I would have been beaten to a bloody pulp. (And rightfully so)

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01-14-2004, 01:13 PM
Name calling is not tolerated so knock it off.


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high fly
01-14-2004, 03:28 PM
If you REALLY want to teach the little bastards, stabbing works better than spanking.

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Tazz
01-15-2004, 06:40 AM
To get this back on subject, are the parents who said they do spank talking about a quick smack, which is fine by me, or an actual hold them down and spank the bejesus out of them spanking?

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Furtherman
01-15-2004, 07:16 AM
"Wait until your father gets home!"

That still makes me tense up.

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