O & A in this month's FHM magazine

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I apologized if someone all ready post this topic.

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i thought they couldn't dicuss the incident until their contract was up?

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A It's amazing. There is nothing going on in radio now. And I don't say this as a poor schlep who isn't on the air. I don't have anything to listen to. There's nothing on in New York to make you turn your head from the road and look at your radio and go, "What!" Where's the controversy? Where's the fun? Where's the stuff people either loved or hated but at least talked about? It's gone.



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A It's amazing. There is nothing going on in radio now. And I don't say this as a poor schlep who isn't on the air. I don't have anything to listen to.


Just move to DC and you have a great radio show to listen to (twice daily!). You don't even have to move to DC if you have a computer (wink), we know you can afford it.

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[curtoid]

You don't even have to move to DC if you have a computer (wink), we know you can afford it.

Which gets me to a point I haven't heard anyone mention - how will Sirrus feel about internet feeds of O&A?

If, after a year, Sirrus does not reach their goal of new subscribers, or are shy of it, and they begin to look at what's preventing the growth and conclude one thing is the SU, will there be some sort of clamp down, or will they be forced to have advertisers come on board - something they promoted they didn't have that XM did, even though XM announced they are now taking those off? And if sponsors come on board, does that then open them up to boycots amd protests by catholics and women's groups?

Yeah...I have to agree...radio will get interesting.

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[saveopieanthony.net]

I have Sirius...(i don't know about XM) and there are no commericals on the MUSIC stations....but they have ads on the talk stations they have like national commericals....like their "ESPN Radio" has the national Dan Patrick show with network sponsors. Their "Fox News" station is just the sound Fox News cable network and has commericals...their Bloomberg Radio has network commericals...so they do "technically" have commericals...(ESPN News station is the sound version of the cable station too and has commericals..)

although no one is purchasing them just to reach Siruis' audience...that audience is like a bonus. Also Sirius has commericals too (like "tune into 184 for the NHL Live on Siruis and today's games")

FYI There are about 60 music stations and 40 or so talk stations.

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[zoom2457]

O & A just sound really really dumb in that article.

They didn't know what was in the contract. They were surprised the contract covered the company's ass. And they were told that they didn't have to read the contract before signing it.

Give me a break. Take some responsibility.

Also, satellite radio might be the only way they can get back on the air with a show that their fans will want to hear. I don't believe that any radio company will take a chance on these guys again. Sure the numbers are good, but they run the risk of getting fined by the FCC and possibly losing their radio license.

Oh well, I guess we'll all find out soon.








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[JPMNICK]

102.7 or infinity got a fine under 500,000 dollars. I think it was around 350,000. To a big company, that is not a liability at all. In fact, I bet that is close to the revenue of a few commercials. I think someone will pull them in. Even if they last a year, the company's bottom line will be impacted in a huge way with increased listernship followed by add revenue. PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT THEM, all the time. They are still on people's minds and when they come back, they are going to be huge. In the end it is all about money. i am sure there are a lot of people who work for and hate howard stern, but he is a cash cow, so they let him do whatever he wants to do. He does nothing but make money for them. O&A will be hired somewhere and will be putting on a show. Now, i have no idea how cencesored they will be, so we will just have to wait.

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[Tall_James]

Show some balls...say his name....HOWARD STERN

C'mon guys, if you're outlaw rebels don't be afraid to say his name in the article.


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[curtoid]

One thing it didn't mention in that "How to piss off your boss" article" was anything related to "How to get your boss fired."

I mean, there's the spin that the buck stopped with Jeremy and Ken, and they were right to be fired, not to mention the blame by the fans from everyone from the couple to the Catholics to even Don and Mike, but the tone of the article is that they are two bad boys of radio who got fired for sticking it to the boss.

102.7 or infinity got a fine under 500,000 dollars. I think it was around 350,000. To a big company, that is not a liability at all. In fact, I bet that is close to the revenue of a few commercials. I think someone will pull them in. Even if they last a year, the company's bottom line will be impacted in a huge way with increased listernship followed by add revenue. PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT THEM, all the time. They are still on people's minds and when they come back, they are going to be huge. In the end it is all about money. i am sure there are a lot of people who work for and hate howard stern, but he is a cash cow, so they let him do whatever he wants to do. He does nothing but make money for them. O&A will be hired somewhere and will be putting on a show. Now, i have no idea how cencesored they will be, so we will just have to wait.

The only reason the fine was so low was because Infinity dumped them, and then sat on them.

Also, it is my understanding that any organization that actually loses a radio license for any of their radio stations are then in danger of losing all of their radio licenses because that organization has shown to be irresponsible.

If O&A generated as much money for Infinity as Stern then they more than likely would have stood up for them. If they had not engaged in such a vicious, personal war with Stern (and others at Infinity) then there may have been some sympathy from on air talent - maybe enough to at least convince Infinity to let them out of their contract sooner.

I'm sure there's more to this behind the scenes than we will ever know - it does seem like Infinity must be pretty pissed to keep them out of the job market for so long, which is just fucking ridiculous.

Now that's finally ending (the banishment), and it looks like they are going to satalite, will Sirus be pissed about internet feeds? How will they react?

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[Doctor Manhattan]

And they were told that they didn't have to read the contract before signing it.


That's true of all contracts, you don't have to read them, but why wouldn't you?

And they couldn't even say "Howard K Stern" That dude from Anna Nicole's show.

But I guess Stern gave that crap up, I heard D&M say his name now, they used to say they couldn't say it.

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[JustJon]

1) I agree with Ant about NY radio. I listen to Stern in the morning because I feel like it, but often flip around to catch news, weather, traffic, etc. on other stations, since most of them are talk in the morning. The rest of the day, I have my iPod.

2) When O&A come back it will be a major media event. Leno, Letterman, et al. have been trying to get the boys on, but haven't done it because of the gag order. Come June, they will be EVERYWHERE.

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[curtoid]

2) When O&A come back it will be a major media event. Leno, Letterman, et al. have been trying to get the boys on, but haven't done it because of the gag order. Come June, they will be EVERYWHERE.

Well...maybe...

Not on Letterman or any CBS or MTV station, since Viacom owns them and Infinity, and I doubt Leno because their appeal really wasn't that broad reaching. Most mainstream outlets, if they cover it at all, will use it as another opportunity to bash them as being part of "the world's dumbest radio stunt," which is what everyone except them spins it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they appear on Conan, and I'm guessing they would try to get on Jimmy Kimmell, but he's got loyalty to Stern, but who knows...?

Speculation - all will be revealed soon enough...

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[curtoid]

FYI :

you can curse on satelite radio like you can on cable! no more code words...imagine.

And so can my three yammering teenage nephews on the way to Six Flags - doesn't mean anyone except their best friends would want to pay to hear them on the radio.

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[badorties]

FYI :

you can curse on satelite radio like you can on cable! no more code words...imagine.


wasn't half the fun in the code words ....?

i'm all for adults expressing themselves, but if they're allowed to curse adnaseum -- won't that tire after awhile ..... working within certain parameters can lead to a more creative form of expression, rather than a constant onslaught of the same seven words

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you can curse on satelite radio like you can on cable! no more code words...imagine.

Radio would sound like a "Def Comedy Jam".

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i'm all for adults expressing themselves, but if they're allowed to curse adnaseum -- won't that tire after awhile ..... working within certain parameters can lead to a more creative form of expression, rather than a constant onslaught of the same seven words

Exactly.

It forces people to be creative.

"South Park: The Movie" was hilarious, but having that week in and week out would get REAL old, REAL fast.

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[saveopieanthony.net]

after consideration agreed..i did like the code words and the idea of trying to get around them.

however, you aren't a true fan if the idea of paying money to hear them isn't an option. let's see how you feel when they are back on the air on satelite and you're listening to Mike and the Mad Dog in the afternoon.

Also, on Siruis it's $12.95 a month for over 100 radio stations...including O&A (if they are on) which comes down to $0.43 cents a day. you get O&A and oh, 100 other channels.

I didn't think I would pay for radio either before i got Siruis system as a christmas present. you can look at stations by genre, song, artist, everything.

Anyway I would pay $0.43 cents a day to hear O&A.


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[Tall_James]

Anyway I would pay $0.43 cents a day to hear O&A.

I wouldn't.


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[badorties]

2) When O&A come back it will be a major media event. Leno, Letterman, et al. have been trying to get the boys on, but haven't done it because of the gag order. Come June, they will be EVERYWHERE.


i don't know .... it might make a buried column in the papers, or a minute piece on the local news, but them going to sirius might not be that big of a deal (outside of here and a half dozen other message boards)



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[curtoid]

you aren't a true fan if the idea of paying money to hear them isn't an option


To quote my black girlfriends, "I know that's right!"



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[zoom2457]

The other thing I was thinking about is will Sirius be able to pay what O&A think they are worth.

Also, would the stunts still be as good if nobody was giving them a hard time about it. (ie the bosses).

just food for thought...



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[Reephdweller]

1) I agree with Ant about NY radio. I listen to Stern in the morning because I feel like it, but often flip around to catch news, weather, traffic, etc. on other stations, since most of them are talk in the morning. The rest of the day, I have my iPod.


I don't listen to any NY radio anymore in the car. I just turn on my iPod and play Ron and Fez shows from the day before which I download.

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Where does this whole talk of Sirius come from? I didn't see any mention of them going to Sirius when their contract is up.

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Damn, I miss those guys.
Yea, me too I laugh at things that reminds me of bits they did. Like everytime I hear a wacky DJ voice I thing of Ant doing his impression, or everytime I hear Mike Tyson in the news I laugh. Someday soon we will hear them again

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i miss them alot also. Anthony talking about Ron and Fez is what got me listening to them. i would pay to hear them if they do go to satelite radio. it's funny to think back when WNEW used to play the commericals for XM and they would flip out about promoting the competition...now they just may work for them.

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Sirius talk comes from the fact that they were in talks, which broke down because they would have been under the Infinity gag order.

And no, the Sirius deal wouldn't be news, but the talk shows all want to talk about the St Patrick's incident. They all wanted them when they first went off the air and they're still interested to get them as soon as the gag order lifts.

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[badorties]

Where does this whole talk of Sirius come from? I didn't see any mention of them going to Sirius when their contract is up.


really nothing more than speculation .....

with the current state of radio, o&a have few options for a return to ny airwaves: you would assume infinity's out; then there's CC who may not want the bad press to taint their ever-growing plans for world domination .....

the better bet would be that they wind up on satellite radio ..... and if it's between xm & sirius, they might land with sirius ..... and it might be more of an advantage for sirius since they have hired former wnew pm (jeremy coleman) and former station staff (i think ben/garrett) .....

as per the dentist (http://musicradio.computer.net/wwwboard/messages/223336.html)



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but Clear Channel doesn't have any station in NYC they would "sound right " on. Q104 is a classic rock station, and I doubt Lite FM would like to take them on, but them on Power 105 would make for some interesting radio.....

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Is it entirely possible that they would ever return to an Infinity radio station? What I mean is, if come June infinity has a change of heart and puts them on at nights on K-Rock. The whole idea being to hold them in check on New York airwaves while Howard Sterns contract comes to a close. Howard has speculated for a while that after this current contract that he's done. Whether that's true or not I don't know, but I would imagine that Infinity would like to put something in place to replace his show should that happen.

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[badorties]

Is it entirely possible that they would ever return to an Infinity radio station?


i'd say no ....

only because why eat two years worth of contracts, only to finally give them a new one ....

then again, infinity's behavior is less than predictable ....

maybe they have a no-compete clause that would limit/hamper their option .... maybe they have to start at a smaller market and build momentum for a return to market #1 ....

there'll be endless speculation for the next six months ....



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[mothershucker]

Infinity? Come on, do not be stupid.........

Clear chanel probably will not touch them, these fucking corporation owned stations are pussies.

No indi station could afford them.

They are stuck going satelite, which sucks, but better then nothing.

I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker

[Melrapuo]

On the O&A site, its reported that Norton sorta spoke out that they wouldn't be going to Sirius radio, and that they might be back sooner than we think. I'd give a link, but the two links on the site no longer work. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

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[curtoid]

Clear chanel probably will not touch them, these fucking corporation owned stations are pussies.

While CC is known to be very conservative and right leaning, they do own DC-101 here in Washington, which allows their morning show to get away with saying stuff all the time that Infinity is always dumping.

I would not be surpried if, after some time, and they let Satalite radio deal with the hub-bub and controversy of bringing them back to the airwaves, IF there seems to be enough interest, Clear Channel might do business with them, possibly to do a morning show against Stern.

But I'm guessing they aren't going to do anything for another year or two after they come back, to really let the dust settle, and get a feeling of what the climate is.



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[badorties]

david hinlkley basically summed up our conversations in today's daily news: Sirius likely to relaunch Opie and Anthony show (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ent_radio/story/154882p-136177c.html)



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[curtoid]

Opie and Anthony would likely cost millions. But if they brought Sirius 20,000 new subscribers - a small fraction of their daily audience when they were syndicated out of WNEW - that alone would mean $3.1 million a year in subscription revenue, exclusive of advertising.

If that's it, then I would have to imagine that they will be selling ad time to pay for O&A's salaries.

According to a 2000 Ad-Biz magazine article, WJFK, billed in ad revenue (for 1999) approx $22 million dollars - almost half that amount ($9.5 million) came from afternoon drive only (Don and Mike). An almost equal amount of money is made from Stern.

This made them (WJFK) the second most valuable station in Washington DC, billing wise (behind Infinity owned WPGC).

According to Radio Reporter Frank Aherns, in 2000, WJFK (a station with a horrible signal, by the way) billed $38 million. At that rate, JFK could be pulling in easily over $45 - $60 million, on the backs of morning and afternoons.

It would be excellent to get some inside word on what the ad rate of R&F are.





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[Hoojibs]

I just got this from Sirius website:

A monthly subscription is $12.95.

A year is $142.95.

2 years is $271.95.

A lifetime is $499.99.

While, I'm not poor it still seems a bit pricey even though I pay more for internet and wireless phone services.

Does anyone hear subscribe to Sirius or even XM?
Would you?



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For O & A I would.


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The whole idea being to hold them in check on New York airwaves while Howard Sterns contract comes to a close. Howard has speculated for a while that after this current contract that he's done
Howard always does this. He signs five year contracts then starts bitching half-way through it and ends up resigning.

And Norton said they turned it down because they'd still be under the Infinity gag order.

And if O&A went satelite, I'd seriously consider buying it. Radio sucks.

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Radio sucks.

you're damn right. typically in the office, we have npr on. so 51%(the womyn's show) came on and i felt myself turning into a lesbian. so we switched it to the modern rock station (haven't listened to in i don't know how long) and all the songs sounded the same. shitty. so we turned it back to the fem show.

and who told fred durst he can sing?


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Bear in mind all local radio station commercials are pretty much eliminated on XM. There's no need for someone listening to the O&A show in Kansas to hear about the NY Pizza Shack in Huntington, LI.

Its gonna rock...more show, less commercials, cursing...they'll finally be able to do what they want....

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Dude htis satellite shit would blow. I listen to the radio in several different places and unless the recieving thing is pocket fittable and location switchable, i'll be fucked.

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[blancostupido]

Its gonna rock...more show, less commercials, cursing...they'll finally be able to do what they want....

I don't know...more show is one thing, but sometimes 'yambag' or 'mule' is funnier than just saying 'dick' all the time. I for one would not subscribe

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[Johnny4]

I wouldn't pay for O and A on Sirius. But would pay for O and A and Ron and Fez on Sirius. Stern will re-up. He lost too much money in his divorce.

I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything, I wasn't there and if I was there I was asleep.

[FollowThisLogic]

Dude htis satellite shit would blow. I listen to the radio in several different places and unless the recieving thing is pocket fittable and location switchable, i'll be fucked.
Pocket-fit, no. Location-switch, yes.... I know XM has it, and I'm pretty sure Sirius does too. The actual receiver fits into a car kit, or a home kit (or in the case of XM's Skyfi, a boombox as well). You pay for one radio that you can detach from one kit and plug into another.

I subscribe to XM. I love it. It was mentioned before, XM will be starting the same thing Sirius has.... commercial-free on the music stations. That begins Feb 1. Talk/news stations still have commercials, for both companies. What's the difference if they're local or not?

Whoever did the math in that Daily News article, doesn't know how to use a calculator properly. On my calculator, 12.95 x 20,000 is not 3,100,000. It's 259,000. And even if he meant 200,000 subs, that's only 2,590,000.

And even 200,000 subs isn't going to bring Sirius even CLOSE to competing with XM. XM ended the year at 1.35M subs, Sirius had a bit over 200k.

O&A's show depended more on the casual listeners than the hardcore fans. The casual listeners aren't going to pay $12.95 a month just for O&A. And not all of the hardcore ones will... either cause they don't want to pay, can't afford it, or whatever.....

Plus, cursing would be neat-o at first, but would get really old, really fast....

Satellite is a crappy move.

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[billyio]

I loved OA,but I would not pay to hear them. I think it would be a mistake other than a proving ground to mainstream radio that they can behave to a certain extent in order to come back to radio.

I think that a few hundred thousand subscribers cannot compare to the millions of listeners they drew when they were on free radio.

See Ya!

[TheMojoPin]

I plan on getting Sirius or XM within the next few months, O&A or not.

The amount of quality content you get for the relative cost is fantastic. Anytime I'm in the cars of my friends who have it, satellite radio seems WELL worth the current costs.

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