State Of The Union

[Heavy]

First let me say hat I am Fuming over 24 not being on. If I have a great show on, I'm not taking it off for this crap. WIth that said, this is importnat shit so watch it. Listen to the BS that gets spewed. Support him or not, we all know hes full of shit.

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I do not bow to your commands, porn boy.

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[Heavy]

You already have.

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[blakjeezis]

This really is a dog and pony show, especially in an election year. It's nowhere near as good as Prime Minister's Question Time.

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i'm watching barbarians on history channel


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[mikeyboy]

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[Heavy]

ooooooooooooooohhhhhh Barbarians, thanks Furie!

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[East Side Dave]

Well played, East SIde Dave***. You win this round.









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Dammit, East Side Dave. Folled by your cunning editing. You win this round.

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[Yerdaddy]

"...and no one can now doubt the word of America." Long applause.

<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27978-2004Jan18.html" target="_blank">Monday, January 19, 2004: The Bush administration's inability to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq -- after public statements declaring an imminent threat posed by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein -- has begun to harm the credibility abroad of the United States and of American intelligence, according to foreign policy experts in both parties.</a>

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[East Side Dave]

Dammit, East Side Dave. Folled by your cunning editing. You win this round.



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[Wormwood]

Did anyone notice Tom Brady in attendance?

:::GWB's Voice:::I'd like to thank this mediocre quarterback for his vigilance in the fight on terrorism

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[keithy_19]

I love Bush. I love how he smiled while he was getting boo'd. Its great. 4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS!

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[Heavy]

He is so mediocre in fact, that i can not in good fiath rate him amongst the top 15 QBs int he game today

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[ChickenHawk]

I think it was all in all a good State of the Union address, but man did he fuck up when he said a 2-year-old wrote him a letter. Doesn't matter though... My vote is still going to Hulk Hogan.

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[Heavy]

What did he have to say? I would have watched bu this Barbarian shit is just to great

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[TooCute]

What he didn't know was that Ashley Pearson has two mommies.

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[stinkbud]

I wish is would have thouht of the State of the Union Address drinking game before the speech...

three drinks every time he says "nucyoolar", two drinks per mispronounciation, two per stutter and four if he makes up a word.

Lets hope we dont get the chance to try it out on him next year....

[TheMojoPin]

I don't know who looked more embarassing, Ted Kennedy and his constant look of drunken disapproval and head-shaking, or Donald Rumsfeld and his nonstop, leering, "I love my Daddy"-look towards Bush the entire time.

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[CruelCircus]

I think the most embarassing had to be Charlie Rangel falling asleep during it. A member of Congress. Asleep during the State of the Union. I can't believe people continue to vote for this clown.

My favorite moment came early, and I marked out like "Real American" came on the loudspeakers:

"Key provisions of the PATRIOT Act are set to expire next year. "
[unexpected applause from the Dem side]
[Bush stops, and stares down the clappers]
"The terrorist threat will not expire on that schedule."

WHAM! They tried to show him up and he took it and slam dunked it on 'em. Agree or disagree with the point, but nicely done.


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[reeshy]

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but man did he fuck up when he said a 2-year-old wrote him a letter
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Another flaming attempt by the liberal, communist, hippy left to discredit the President through illegitimite means!!! I listened to the speech and yes, he did say 2 years old and then immediately corrected himself and said 10 years old. What's the matter, MR., you NEVER made a mistake when you read something out loud....maybe you should be president of these United States...then we could change the name of our wonderful country to Hippy, Liberal, Red States of the Illiterate!!!! I am right , sir and you are wrong!!!! As my good friend and great American, Mojo, once said...and I'M paraphrasing here so please don't crucify me and send me to the Gulag....GO BACK TO RUSSIA, YOU HIPPIE!!!!!!

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[2ndChance]

I agree. He immediately corrected his slip. This is not something that needs to be harped on. It was nothing.

Why won't they realize that I have turned over a new leaf for 2004? So many others have gotten so many chances here, all I am asking for is my 2nd Chance.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Whenever heavy applause broke out, Ted Kennedy either shook his head or played with his face. What a mutt.

I suspected that Rangel was asleep, but I wasn't sure if he just was trying to diss Bush because they had that shot during a standing ovation.

I enjoyed the parts of the speech about the war when the cameras focused on Hilary and she had this "I voted for so now I gotta stand and it pisses me off" look on her face. She looked angry all night long.

I've come to the conclusion that Condoleeza Rice is a shorty. I would definitely bang her, given the chance.

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[Furtherman]

I liked when he knocked over Cheney's glass of water.

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[TooCute]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under Federal law as the union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states. Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our Nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

The outcome of this debate is important - and so is the way we conduct it. The same moral tradition that defines marriage also teaches that each individual has dignity and value in God's sight.



I like how he basically said that homosexuals aren't people. Denying them the right to get married, I suppose, is also a way to treat them with dignity and value... well I guess if God sees their dignity and value, Bush and the Constitution don't have to. Woo hoo!! Let's write intolerance back into the constitution!!!!!! Yee haw!

While we're at it, can we write back in that blacks and whites can't marry? Maybe not let women to vote?

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[curtoid]

I think the most embarassing had to be Charlie Rangel falling asleep during it. A member of Congress. Asleep during the State of the Union. I can't believe people continue to vote for this clown.

My favorite moment came early, and I marked out like "Real American" came on the loudspeakers:

"Key provisions of the PATRIOT Act are set to expire next year. "
[unexpected applause from the Dem side]

"The terrorist threat will not expire on that schedule."

WHAM! They tried to show him up and he took it and slam dunked it on 'em. Agree or disagree with the point, but nicely done.


Well, it can be spun that way, and even take it further that the Democrats were clapping for the terrorists to take over while the Republicans are the only real patriots that are here to protect us, OR you can look at it from the other point of view (and others already have) and note that the Republicans clapped at the phrase "The terrorist threat will not expire on that schedule," which could indicate, if you want to be literal, that it was a good thing that the terrorist threat will not expire on that schedule.

Either way, it was funny to see him react to people clapping when they weren't suppose to.

Tom Shales, who has been very forgiving and kind to the President, especially after 9/11, had a pretty harsh review of the speach in today's Washington Post. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33872-2004Jan21.html)

I liked this part of Shales' review: "Over on the Fox News Channel, Fred Barnes, sounding as if he had walking pneumonia, allowed as how he'd heard George W. Bush deliver many an important and eloquent speech over the years, "and this was not one of them." It takes courage to say something like that on the Fox News Channel, normally a Bush cheering section."

The smugness is what always gets me about this President - even when he occasionally stumbles onto something I might agree with, when I see that smirk I am reminded of my more over-riding opinion of him.

And talk about ball-less - all the hoopla about the missions to the moon and mars last week, and he sees some polls showing that conservatives were pissed, and suddenly he is stone silent on it. Naturally the hypocrites around him will spin it whatever way they want to, but they were the same nit wits who never tired of accusing President Clinton of checking everything out with the opinion polls first.



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[TheMojoPin]

Watching this last night makes me realize how little we actually see/hear of Dick Cheney (Except on "Meet The Press"...the guy's got a jones for "Meet The Press"). Where does he go? What does he do? What's his favorite food? What does he want to do after he graduates? Can he sleep over?

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[East Side Dave]

It woulda been awesome if sometime in the middle of the speech Bush grabbed a machine gun from behind the podium and started shootin' like a muther and Ted Kennedy took out an uzi and started firing back and the Bush Girls were chucking grenades and while I guess that right now this is not realistic I can only hope that this atmosphere will change if CrazyMan Dean gets voted in! My vote's for CrazyMan!

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[TheMojoPin]

"All in favor?"

"Say 'DIE'."

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[SatCam]

I saw the second half of the speech, and I really had only one thing to comment on...


"Key provisions of the PATRIOT Act are set to expire next year. "
[unexpected applause from the Dem side]
[Bush stops, and stares down the clappers]
"The terrorist threat will not expire on that schedule."


That had me fucking rolling on the floor laughing!

Anyway, I attempted to watch the Democrat Response to the State of the Union but I turned it onto some PBS Abortion documentary. MUCH more interesting. The response was SCRIPTED... I was bored out of my mind.

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[CruelCircus]

I like how he basically said that homosexuals aren't people.
Where on earth did you pull THAT out of what he said?!

While we're at it, can we write back in that blacks and whites can't marry? Maybe not let women to vote?
Is that something people are asking for?!


As for Daschle, his response was important. It let us all know that on the night of the SOTU the Democrats are all about labeling the country of origin on where our produce comes from!
Not to mention he opened with a blatant lie that the President asked Congress to pay for programs with Social Security money. Bush proposed ways to protect SS money. Daschle's a tool- we all JUST WATCHED the speech!


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[Freakshow]

"All in favor?"

"Say 'DIE'."
"

You forgot the dog with the shifty eyes.

[HBox]

Is that something people are asking for?!

If they were, would that make it OK?

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[TheMojoPin]

What?

I am baffled.

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[TooCute]

Where on earth did you pull THAT out of what he said?!




He said the "will of the people" was that marriage be defined as between man and woman. Homosexuals do not want that. Ergo, homosexuals are not people. That wasn't too hard, was it?




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[HBox]

What?

I am baffled.

I was trying to say that if a majority of people think that we should outlaw marriage between whites and blacks, or take away the right of women to vote, that doesn't mean we should, or that it is the right thing to do.

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[TheMojoPin]

I was trying to say that if a majority of people think that we should outlaw marriage between whites and blacks, or take away the right of women to vote, that doesn't mean we should, or that it is the right thing to do.

I figured out all THAT. I'm just trying to see who possibly said anything even close to that they would ever want to...

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[HBox]

While we're at it, can we write back in that blacks and whites can't marry? Maybe not let women to vote?



Is that something people are asking for?!

I thought here he was implying that since people support banning gay marriage, that it is OK.

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[Reephdweller]

Anyway, I attempted to watch the Democrat Response to the State of the Union but I turned it onto some PBS Abortion documentary. MUCH more interesting. The response was SCRIPTED... I was bored out of my mind.



That Nancy Pelosi looks horrible, and read her speech about as poorly as I've seen someone do. She kept trying to smile or something between her words and just looked freakish to me.

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[NewYorkDragons80]

I like how he basically said that homosexuals aren't people.
Quite the contrary. I will paste an excerpt of what he did say in the hope that you will read it and comprehend its meaning.

The same moral tradition that defines marriage also teaches that each individual has dignity and value in God's sight.

I disagree with Bush on gay marriage, but his stance is a far cry from seeing homosexuals as less than human.

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[TooCute]

You don't have good reading comprehension, do you, NewYorkDragons.. or maybe you didn't read the entire trhead before you posted...

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[Se7en]

Where on earth did you pull THAT out of what he said?!

He said the "will of the people" was that marriage be defined as between man and woman. Homosexuals do not want that. Ergo, homosexuals are not people. That wasn't too hard, was it?

This is both an embarrassing kneejerk reaction and a tremendous logical reach for you.

I would think most people here understand what the marriage amendment talk is all about. I would HOPE so - I would hope most people here are that realistic as to know what's truly going down here.

It's nothing more than an issue that Bush is giving to his supporters. He's throwing a bone to his base, something to appease them over the bad taste left in their mouth over the immigration & medicare policies.

Do you know what it would take to pass such an amendment? You're a smart person, and probably civil-minded, so I'm sure you do: it would have to be passed by a 2/3rds majority of both houses of Congress as well as ratified by 3/4ths (roughly 38 out of the 50) of the states before it became part of the law of the land.

Bush knows, as well as many, that the marriage amendment (should it ever really see the light of day) will NEVER make it that far. It WILL NOT HAPPEN. He knows this; which is why he can come out and support it, because he knows that should it ever materialize it'll be dead in the water from the very beginning.

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[reeshy]

Is that something people are asking for?! If they were, would that make it OK?


Yes, of course...that the majority ruling!!!!

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[TheMojoPin]

You don't have good reading comprehension, do you, NewYorkDragons..

YOU DON'T WANT THE BOX!

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[CruelCircus]

While we're at it, can we write back in that blacks and whites can't marry? Maybe not let women to vote?

Is that something people are asking for?!

I thought here he was implying that since people support banning gay marriage, that it is OK.

No, what I was implying was that it is a ridiculous hypthetical, proves no point, and has nothing to do with the debate.


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[CruelCircus]

He said the "will of the people" was that marriage be defined as between man and woman. Homosexuals do not want that. Ergo, homosexuals are not people. That wasn't too hard, was it?
That's not what the phrase "will of the people" means and you know it. It does not imply a 100% belief, and it certainly doesn't imply that any in disagreement are not human. (Btw, using your logic would dictate that any straight person who supports gay marriage is also inhuman- why didn't you include that?)

I know you're smarter than this and so I'm very disappointed to see you being so purposely obtuse.

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To follow up on Seven's point, the whole "marriage" debate right now is mainly a semantic one, which is why I think a constitutional amendment is unnecessary overkill. One side seems to simply want to reserve the use of the term "marriage" to a union between a man and a woman. However, many on that side are also supportive of allowing a legal civil union between people, both hetro- and homo-sexual, which would be essentially leaglly equivalent to marriage.

I wonder then, if we're moving toward a point where "marriages" will be purely ceremonial and religious events stripped of legal significance, and everyone will have to get a legal civil union either apart from or in conjunction with the marriage.


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[HBox]

No, what I was implying was that it is a ridiculous hypthetical, proves no point, and has nothing to do with the debate.

Fair enough. I take it all back.

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[TheMojoPin]

I wonder then, if we're moving toward a point where "marriages" will be purely ceremonial and religious events stripped of legal significance, and everyone will have to get a legal civil union either apart from or in conjunction with the marriage.

It seems like we're already there.

Well, at least it does to me.

I guess I'm pretty "anti-marriage" because of this attitude.

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[JerryTaker]

I wonder then, if we're moving toward a point where "marriages" will be purely ceremonial and religious events stripped of legal significance, and everyone will have to get a legal civil union either apart from or in conjunction with the marriage.

It seems like we're already there.



Tell that to anyone the courts ordered to give half of thier stuff to thier ex, or had thier bank accounts frozen and wages garnished over it.

There's no reason why homosexuals shouldn't be forced to suffer like the rest of us.


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[TheMojoPin]

Tell that to anyone the courts ordered to give half of thier stuff to thier ex, or had thier bank accounts frozen and wages garnished over it.

Well, actually, that's what I meant.

Marriage has been stripped down so much to the basic legality of the issue that it seems wholly seperate from the ceremony/union I assume it used to mean. It's just a business transaction now. Something new to check off on the tax sheet, and not much more.

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[JerryTaker]

Oh, sorry. when I read "Legal Civil Union" I was thinking of the one they gave Homosexuals here in Jersey, which, form what I understand, doesn't have all the legal hangups to get out of it that a legal "marrage" has.

But I'm sure the lawyers will find a way to make money off this one too... they always do.

after all, once they've made "enough" they become politicians, and figure out ways to take more away from us working schlubs...


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[Heavy]

Whos idea was it to make a marriage a legal thing anyway. What an asshole.

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I was watching footage from Melissa Etheridge's wedding on ABC the other night. It's refreshing to see that gay people dance as awkwardly as straight people do at wedding receptions.

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[mikeyboy]

Mojo and Wadd -- finally seeing eye to eye.

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[JerryTaker]

Whos idea was it to make a marriage a legal thing anyway. What an asshole.


Probably someone looking to cash in; maybe the Pope's lawyer.

Just remember that our great leader wants to preserve the "sanctity" of that institution for as long as possible...

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Nothing we've shared means a thing
Without you close to me
I can't live without you

[Heavy]

Tom Lickass Rules!

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ORACLE NEVER!!!

[CaptClown]

And I guess no one ever heard of palimony?

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