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Kevmath
02-17-2004, 07:03 AM
Check it out on the NYRMB at:
http://tinyurl.com/2wchd
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JustJon
02-17-2004, 07:35 AM
Interesting article by Anthony.
I think there's something really telling in the follwoing reply by Sniffen about what made O&A good:
It wasn't the stunts (and there really weren't that many of them). It was their ability to bring their audience into the show and identify with them as everyday guys who you would like to hang out with. I don't think I ever heard a show that did that as well as they did. You wanted to be in on what was happening because you liked them. It wasn't so much that they had a stripper in the studio as it was they were having such a good time with the audience talking about it. It was a show of *inclusion*, not a show of exclusion.
There have been and will continue to be lots of radio shows around that pull pranks and have strippers in the studio. Very few if any will have the success that O&A did because it's *not* about the stunt. It's about the way you get your audience to like you and identify with you and consider you a friend. That's what all good radio is no matter what the topic is. It's time that we remember that about O&A and stop focusing on the stunts the show did. In the big picture, those things were only tools to create the feeling that show created.
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Justice4all
02-17-2004, 09:36 AM
Brilliant retort by Anthony. I think he said alot of well thought out points also.
This should be passed around to some newspapers. This should get as much press as the attacks on O & A and the Super Bowl show.
I think it is time we started taking back America. Too many paraniod parents.
Anthony was right...the finger never points inward when the blame is passed around.
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TheMojoPin
02-17-2004, 10:13 AM
I think it is time we started taking back America. Too many paraniod parents.
What are you gonna do, steal their kids?
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monsterone
02-17-2004, 10:21 AM
http://tinyurl.com/2wchd
sorry, i don't like pasting in urls at work.
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monsterone
02-17-2004, 10:40 AM
The fact of the matter is things like the Janet Jackson breast shot doesn't offend children it offends some of the parents. For years people who said they were offended by radio or TV shows were told to turn the dial and shut up. Those people smartened up. Now they complain in the name of America's children so you can't argue the point or you're some kind of kid destroying child-hating monster.
You know the other type of person who loves using the children as an excuse? The failed parent. The entertainment industry is the best scapegoat there is for failed parents. "If it wasn't for all the sex on TV my daughter wouldn't be a slut". "My son does drugs because they show people doing drugs on TV". "MTV Jackass killed my kid!" It's perfect. You don't even need any facts to back it up. "TV wrecked my family". Oh, ok.
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TheMojoPin
02-17-2004, 10:47 AM
Ron made a good point on the show this morning that kinda ties into this...he and Fez were talking about the new report that indicates there have been over 4,400 priests accused of molestation in the last 50 years, and how the media seems to pay little to no attention about that compared to how apeshit they go over one semi-exposed boob at the Super Bowl. He brought up how ridiculous it is that the Church is essentially left to handle this on their own, and if it were group like, say, Scientologists, the FBI would be kicking down their doors and making arrests left and right. Then he brought up how the Catholic League was able to come after "us for what we do" but apparrently not care as much about the molestation issue.
All in all, a good fastest hour in radio.
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Hoojibs
02-17-2004, 10:51 AM
Won't somebody think of the children!?!?
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TheMojoPin
02-17-2004, 10:52 AM
I'm thinking of them right now.
Yeah.
Oh, YEAH.
That's nice.
I like that.
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Justice4all
02-17-2004, 11:59 AM
I think it is time we started taking back America. Too many paraniod parents.
What are you gonna do, steal their kids?
Hey why not...the guy in Florida ALMOST got away with it! (Damn cameras!)
But all kidding aside...what I meant was if and when we start having children (Scary thought I know...) we can raise them right and not be one of those "I-will-blame-everyone-but-myself-if-I-screw-up-my-kids" type parents which is one of the points Anthony made. Take responsability for yourself and your child instead of looking for an easy out/excuse.
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TheMojoPin
02-17-2004, 12:02 PM
Hey why not...the guy in Florida ALMOST got away with it! (Damn cameras!)
Ouch.
I think even Norton winced at that one.
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TheCosmicCircus
02-17-2004, 12:22 PM
I RAN O&A OUT OF WASHINGTON DC!
I single handedly removed them from the airwaves.
now they are rotting in prison like all the other has beens who dared to do battle with the cosmic circus.
long live the greaseman.
oh and ya, like anyone with half a brain is going to take anything this howie mandell wannabee has to say for real... he's fake..
fake things suck!
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blakjeezis
02-17-2004, 12:30 PM
Take responsability for yourself and your child instead of looking for an easy out/excuse.
Is assuming that the Super Bowl is family oriented programming bad parenting? To try and defend what Janet and Justin did at the Super Bowl with the 'watch your kids' argument is absurd. To coin a phrase, you can't close the barn after the horses have run off. I can understand if CBS and the NFL had said that this was going to be mature content and people got pissed after letting their kids watch. Then the argument would be valid. But they didn't, the Super Bowl is supposed to be family entertainment.
I'm not prude. Any one who knows me will testify to that. I'm fairly twisted and my limits extend a long way past what other people find acceptable. That being said, it is not unreasonable for a father to think he could have sat down with his 6 or 7 year old son on Super Bowl Sunday and not have to worry about explaining why that man just ripped off that woman's shirt and exposed her breast or what erectile disfunction is.
I'm afraid that's just not family programming. If that' the direction the NFL and CBS want to go with it, that's fine; I have no problems. I'll laugh and enjoy it, but they should inform the parents that this is how it's going to be and not trumpet it as a day when the family gets together and watches the game as a whole.
The relationship between this and the O and A situation is tenuous at best. Opie and Anthoiny never touted their show as family programming, Catholic programming, even non-offensive programming. In fact they did the opposite, they repeatedly said this show is offensive, crude, and vulgar. Parents who let their young children listen should probably have them taken away. I have no respect for their rights to complain about the content.
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JerryTaker
02-17-2004, 01:04 PM
it is not unreasonable for a father to think he could have sat down with his 6 or 7 year old son on Super Bowl Sunday and not have to worry about explaining why that man just ripped off that woman's shirt and exposed her breast or what erectile disfunction is.
Thing is, the breast thing happened at the end of a terrible Mtv production that started awful, and just kept getting more and more crude. Hell, any decent father sitting with his 6 year old should have changed the channel when Puffy got on stage.
Anyone with half a brain knows what Mtv is about nowadays, which is essentially a wierd ADD mix of corporate music and softcore porn.
I gotta agree with you about the erectile dysfunction and Herpes commercials, though.
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TheMojoPin
02-17-2004, 01:05 PM
Minus MTV, the Super Bowl has still been pretty "iffy" on the family content for well over a decade now. ESPECIALLY the commercials.
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zoom2457
02-17-2004, 02:38 PM
I think Anthony's comments on "broadcast indecency" were good, I thought they were better when Howard Stern said exactly the same thing. Some of it word for word, but I guess two guys in the same business might have the exact same thoughts.
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9mileskid
02-17-2004, 05:54 PM
why do people feel the need to put their children up on
these pedistols of morality.like it's my responsibility
to raise your kids.my rights are trampled for people who don't even vote.raise your own fuckin' kids ,they should be seen and not heard!so fuck you,you cowards
stern sucks :)
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