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serVice
04-21-2004, 01:12 AM
"There's not an American ... that doesn't understand what we are engaged in today and what the prospects are for the future," Senator Chuck Hagel told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on post-occupation Iraq.
"Why shouldn't we ask all of our citizens to bear some responsibility and pay some price?" Hagel said, arguing that restoring compulsory military service would force "our citizens to understand the intensity and depth of challenges we face."
From YahooNews (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&u=/afp/20040420/pl_afp/us_iraq_military_draft&printer=1)
It seems that there has recently been a pair of bills introduced with the aim of reinstating the draft. i know a few have been introduced in the past, but it seems that in other areas things seem to have been done to make it possible.
$28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. SSS must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation.
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To view the bills as written just
follow this link, (http://thomas.loc.gov/) and type in the bill numbers and they will show up.
It looks like some people are going to have to get their openly gay act or try to lie your way into conscientious objector status.
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04-21-2004, 01:49 AM
Oh well, now you kiddies will have to go through what I had to go through....remember....pink panties don't work anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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furie
04-21-2004, 03:37 AM
they said the same shit during the gulf war when I was 18.
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WindowSill
04-21-2004, 03:55 AM
I dont think its ever going to happen. Not just because it probably wont pass but because we're never going to need to draft. The army, Navy, and all the other organizations dont have enough people to go over to the middle east and bust ass? Come on now.
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Teenweek
04-21-2004, 05:07 AM
its just political grndstanding saying no rich kids will go to war. Just another dig at Bush. We do not need a draft.
I dont think its ever going to happen. Not just because it probably wont pass but because we're never going to need to draft. The army, Navy, and all the other organizations dont have enough people to go over to the middle east and bust ass? Come on now.
Actually, no we don't. Still, I doubt it would ever happen.
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Melrapuo
04-21-2004, 06:48 AM
I turn 18 at the end of this year. Great.
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blakjeezis
04-21-2004, 08:44 AM
Shame aboot that draft, eh? I heard all of you hosers are gonna be called up. How aboot 1 more Labatt's for the road, eh?
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IrishAlkey
04-21-2004, 09:41 AM
No me preocupa este mierda.
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JerryTaker
04-21-2004, 10:55 AM
I can't believe you people actually want a draft.
And rich fucks can always buy thier way out.
Wrap your head around this one: they can take women now, too...
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TheMojoPin
04-21-2004, 10:55 AM
I can prove I can't be drafted! With Reeshy AND Alkey!
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IrishAlkey
04-21-2004, 10:58 AM
Proving it will be the fun part.
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04-21-2004, 11:00 AM
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jeffdwright2001
04-21-2004, 11:04 AM
I thought they've always let someone go from high school right into the draft if they were good enough.
sleepyeyed_Jynx
04-21-2004, 11:13 AM
My brother Michael has served his country for 8, (or is it 9?) years. He was sent to Bosnia, Germany, France, South Korea, Texas, Louisiana, and possibly even more, but I can't remember. Anyway, being that there has already been a male in the immediate family that has served, and the fact that I am the baby of the family, am I still in the draft? Because my brother told me that I'm not due to his service and the fact that I'm the youngest. I'm dunno, somebody tell me here.
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reeshy
04-21-2004, 12:26 PM
I can prove I can't be drafted! With Reeshy AND Alkey!
Proving it will be the fun part
When and where, fellas????????
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keithy_19
04-21-2004, 12:33 PM
I can't be drafted, because of my disease. But if I was healthy I would go if my country called on me to do so.
With that being said, It will never pass.
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armymad
04-21-2004, 01:20 PM
this would suck ass
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ToddEVF
04-21-2004, 01:35 PM
dammit, oh well, i would be unable to be put in the military anyway due to my psychological condition. . .
but i'd still run to canada just for good measure
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furie
04-21-2004, 02:02 PM
am I still in the draft?
you're acting like there already is a draft. like it's a done deal. someone always brings this up every ten years or so. it never goes through so I wouldn't worry about it.
but to answer your question, yes you would still be eligible for the draft.
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04-21-2004, 03:00 PM
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DarkHippie
04-21-2004, 03:22 PM
A draft may be likely Considering that they keep adding more soldiers to Iraq, (actually just extending the tours of people there) and that we have very few left in reserve now.
What we need is a strtegy to take the burden off of our forces, either through an exit strategy or through multi-lateralism, or else a vote for Bush will be a vote for a draft in 2006.
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furie
04-21-2004, 04:14 PM
or take our forces out of Bosnia, Germany, etc
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sleepyeyed_Jynx
04-21-2004, 04:37 PM
Ok, then I'd still be in. Ok. Yipee! Right...
Look, I have nothing against serving my country, as I'd do it at the drop of a hat, if indeed I am defending my country and I'm not being sent over to be killed for some damn oil and reconstruction contracts! Plus I'm going to college, so unless they actually start ripping kids away from their studies, then I'm not going. As long as they're going to send me to fight people who are even poorer than I am and call them terrorists on top of that for doing what any of us would do if our country were invaded (and that's protecting our country), then no, I won't and can't do it. Call me a draft dodger but as soon as we have an actual good cause for going to war, I'M NOT GOING. But when we do I'll follow in the footsteps of my brother and willingly lay my life down for the sake of my family, friends, and the rest of my citizens.
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Doomstone
04-21-2004, 04:47 PM
I say if you support Dubya's adventures why even wait for a draft?
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serVice
04-21-2004, 05:34 PM
i'd still run to canada just for good measure
Plus I'm going to college, so unless they actually start ripping kids away from their studies, then I'm not going
If you read the articles they state in them that running to canda does no good because of something the U.S. signed a few years ago with canada, and that going to college doesn't get you out, the best you get is to end the semester if your not a senior, and end the year if you are a senior.
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Def Dave in SC
04-21-2004, 06:36 PM
Well, as long as the courts side with the NFL, I have at least three more years until I'm draft eligible.
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Heavy
04-21-2004, 07:41 PM
2 years should be mandatory anyway
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JerryTaker
04-22-2004, 11:40 AM
2 years should be mandatory anyway
Yep, and then when we're all systematically turned into unthinking sheep, or killed off, those pesky Democrats won't have anyone left to vote for them....
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reeshy
04-22-2004, 11:56 AM
when we're all systematically turned into unthinking sheep,
Thanks loads, Jerrytaker!!!
I spent 4 years in the military...what the FUCK does that make me, oh wise one????????
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serVice
04-22-2004, 12:02 PM
Yep, and then when we're all systematically turned into unthinking sheep,
You've never been in a mall, or seen a group of kids walking around, or seen a kid driving, or heard a kid talk, etc., have you?
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JerryTaker
04-22-2004, 12:21 PM
You've never been in a mall, or seen a group of kids walking around, or seen a kid driving, or heard a kid talk, etc., have you?
I never said the media wasn't doing its part.
And Mr Bad touch, I know you take things very personally. to that, at least, I can relate.
You also seem to think anyone unlike you is wrong and weak, and to that, I cannot.
I'm also guessing your are a republican and, despite all evidence that bush is turning this country into a wasteland, you're still voting for him.
I guess that's what Bush really meant when he said "mission accomplished"
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YoungJersey
04-22-2004, 12:30 PM
I had a prof. that went to vietnam and he told us that he hated the draft because he didn't like people who didn't want to be there. It made him resent the draftees
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Patches
04-22-2004, 12:38 PM
Rumsfeld: Don't need a draft (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040422/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/rumsfeld_draft_1)
This administration has always been very forthright and honest. I have no reason not to believe ole' Donny.
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JerryTaker
04-22-2004, 12:40 PM
I had a prof. that went to vietnam and he told us that he hated the draft because he didn't like people who didn't want to be there. It made him resent the draftees
That's an issue unto itself. The Generals, et. al. would rather the draftees die than thier well trained troops who actually want to be there, so they end up being the front lines, pawns, human shields, etc...
I don't give a shit about myself BTW, I think I'm too old anyway, but I know many young men and women, including my younger brothers, who I DO NOT want to die or get thier legs blown off or whatever for Haliburton. That's absolute lunacy.
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East Side Dave
04-22-2004, 12:53 PM
I can't wait 'till they ship you young bastards out!! Make men outta ya!! Choppy! Sentences!
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04-22-2004, 01:03 PM
I'd have to work to try to get back down to 250.
THats how much I weighed in my prime.
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04-22-2004, 01:25 PM
That's how much LeBron James weighs!! Do you know him??
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04-22-2004, 01:28 PM
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reeshy
04-22-2004, 01:30 PM
You also seem to think anyone unlike you is wrong and weak, and to that, I cannot. I'm also guessing your are a republican and, despite all evidence that bush is turning this country into a wasteland, you're still voting for him.
Damn...how does it feel to be wrong all the time????
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04-22-2004, 01:31 PM
And Mr Bad touch, I know you take things very personally. to that, at least, I can relate.
Oh yea....I forgot about that one...sorry!!!!!
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JerryTaker
04-22-2004, 02:27 PM
Damn...how does it feel to be wrong all the time????
I see our knowledge of each other is mutually short, sir. I do commend you, however if you are not voting for Bush.
Also, rest assured that any hatred you have for me is visited at least tenfold upon myself, by myself, and any critisizm you have against me is something I can agree to, except for the one you have made...
In the time I have been on this messageboard I have always kept my name exactly the same. I invite you to read some of my other posts, and then tell me if I'm wrong all the time.
...then again, I guess I'm only "wrong" if I disagree with you, you being infallable and all.
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reeshy
04-22-2004, 02:34 PM
Also, rest assured that any hatred you have for me is visited at least tenfold upon myself, by myself, and any critisizm you have against me is something I can agree to, except for the one you have made... In the time I have been on this messageboard I have always kept my name exactly the same. I invite you to read some of my other posts, and then tell me if I'm wrong all the time. ...then again, I guess I'm only "wrong" if I disagree with you, you being infallable and all.
Damn...you are long-winded...take a chill pill, Will...and have fun!!!!!
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Mike Teacher
04-22-2004, 02:36 PM
i now just hit that 'go to last page' thing and see if the thread has done the usual...
yep
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reeshy
04-22-2004, 02:38 PM
i now just hit that 'go to last page' thing and see if the thread has done the usual... yep
Show us how it's supposed to be done, Mike!!!!
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04-22-2004, 02:55 PM
Thanks loads, Jerrytaker!!! I spent 4 years in the military...what the FUCK does that make me, oh wise one????????
take a chill pill, Will...and have fun!!!!!
wh- what?
first off, I don't consider my soon to be 18 year old brother, with his whole life ahead of him, having to bleed to death in the desert so Cheney can add some more bucks to his bottom line "fun"
and excuse me, mike? mizzle? Ignoring discussions where the sides of everyone are given is part of why this country's so damn stupid.
what really kills me is this board seems to have the attitude of "shut up and wait in line to die" and then when they're next, it's too late to say anything, just like that dumb fuck, Howard Stern, but that's almost completely off-topic.
...just not quite completely
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reeshy
04-22-2004, 03:34 PM
irst off, I don't consider my soon to be 18 year old brother, with his whole life ahead of him, having to bleed to death in the desert so Cheney can add some more bucks to his bottom line "fun"
Jerrytaker.
Where or when did I say this??? I was just saying to have fun in a general sense, enjoy the board, be silly!!! If you can't take a joke, maybe this board isn't for you..I know it's for me!!!! And stop putting words in my mouth....that's NOT a request!
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furie
04-22-2004, 08:14 PM
Yep, and then when we're all systematically turned into unthinking sheep, or killed off, those pesky Democrats won't have anyone left to vote for them
the democrats were the first to propose this in 2003.
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JerryTaker
04-23-2004, 12:08 AM
I was just saying to have fun in a general sense
the point I was trying to make is that this little trist started off with you being offended over what I said about being in the millitary, then, when the shoe's on the other foot, you tell me to "just have fun"
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TheMojoPin
04-23-2004, 08:18 AM
Will you two dorks PLEASE just start dancing already?
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04-23-2004, 09:28 AM
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reeshy
04-23-2004, 09:33 AM
Will you two dorks PLEASE just start dancing already?
You're friggin' jealous...aren't you???????
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FMJeff
04-23-2004, 12:36 PM
guess who's defecting to canada before he takes a bullet for this great land...
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reeshy
04-23-2004, 01:01 PM
guess who's defecting to canada before he takes a bullet for this great land...
And guess who would give him the plane ticket and a pat on the ass goodbye.......
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04-23-2004, 01:04 PM
Over 18?
Amanda Bynes better watch out, then.
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reeshy
04-23-2004, 02:19 PM
And you'd love every second of it.
Uh-huh!!!!!!
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