Pentagon Says "Fuck You" To Freedom of Information

[TheMojoPin]

Photographs of flag-draped coffins bearing American casualties from Iraq should not have been made public under a Pentagon policy prohibiting media coverage of human remains, officials said. (http://cnn.aimtoday.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040423%2F0828232296.htm&sc=1152)

Absolute bullshit.

The guy (Russ Kick, founder of Disinformation.com website and book series) posted photos of flag-draped coffins returning from Iraq, and the Pentagon tries to paint it like he kicked open the coffins and took pictures of the bodies inside.

Yes, there IS a line of respect...and Kick came nowhere near to crossing it. This is overreactionary, paranoid CRAP.

This quote said it all..

"We need to stop hiding the deaths of our young; we need to be open about their deaths,'' said Jane Bright of West Hills, Calif., whose 24-year-old son, Evan Ashcraft, was killed in combat in July.

Exactly. Pretending like it's not happening if we can't see it isn't going to work.

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[mdr55]

It's propaganda. Showing pictures of the coffins will further alienate the cause for the war and enhance the terrorists to continue doing what they do to further divide us since it appears the US is not fully supportive of the war/conflict.

Besides we're winning or have already won....haven't we???

[HBox]

I hate to admit it, but the news about Pat Tillman today really hit me. More than any of the news I've heard up to his point. I think about his tragic story and then I think about everyone else who has given their life and I've been on the verge of tears a couple of times today. I feel like shit that it took a quasi-celebrity's death for all this to hit me like it should, but it's here now and I really hope that I'm wrong, this war in Iraq isn't a mistake, that we will accomplish something great and all these death's won't be for a mistake.

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[TheMojoPin]

Even though he was killed in Afghanistan?

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[JerryTaker]

It's propaganda.


It's needlessly dead American soldiers. the only propoganda is the coverup

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[furie]

i don't think this is covered under FOIA


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[TheMojoPin]

How so?

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[blancostupido]

Just saw this on Drudge... (http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2004/apr/HQ_n04059_columbia_dover.txt)

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[Mike Teacher]

FUBAR

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[TheMojoPin]

So the Air Force is mad over...nothing?

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[HBox]

Even though he was killed in Afghanistan?

I went from thinking about him to all of our soldiers. There are certainly more deaths coming from Iraq, and that's what I'm talking about. Compared to Iraq, Afghanistan has been going pretty well.

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[furie]

How so?

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FOIA Exemptions. The FOIA provides access to federal agency records (or parts of those records) except those protected from release by nine specific exemptions. These are the reasons some Air Force records may not be released:

(2) Internal personnel rules and practices
(http://www.foia.af.mil/handbook1.shtml)

the one i don't get is:


(9) Records containing geological and geophysical information (including maps) concerning wells


wells?


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[Mike Teacher]

(9) Records containing geological and geophysical information (including maps)


beats me, but the sentence as it reads above, without the wells part, makes a lot of sense for many reasons; mostly having to do with exactly where some of our more important structures, natural and man-made. Mostly man-made, I'd say; if you're spying and wanted to find where some secret base or installation or power plant [they're always near huge sources of water] might be, I could see the above info, actually even the Wells part, as being sensitive.

Did you know that the GPS signals used to be scrambled a bit? Te resolution of GPS used to be something along the lines of 100 meters or something. Amazing by any other measurement system previously, but we knew we could always just flick a switch and boom, we'd have a resolution as we do now, of i'm guessing maybe 1-5 meters; less with anything with a transceiver, like most cel phones in the future, with that level of resolution, you can tell what room of a hotel someone was staying in.



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