Media hates anti-Bush opininion [Archive]

keithy_19

05-05-2004, 11:26 AM

1. Refusal to air Moveon.org ad during superbowl by CBS.

Maybe because you don't want to throw politics into an even that is watched all over the world?

2. Refusal to air Nightline segment on lives lost in Iraq by Sinclair Broadcasting.

That's what I want to hear about. The men and women who died over there while we are still there.

3. Removal of political cartoon by MSNBC.

I didn't know there were political cartoons.

4. Barring of distribution of Micheal Moore film by Disney.

They probably did this for one of two reasons. 1, Disney is a family entertainment that doesn't want to get political, or 2, they realized Moore is an idiot who often distorts the truth.

5. Removed sales of anti-Bush t-shirts by Google.

If I type in anti-Bush t-shirt purchase into google, they bring up a lot of sites where, if you felt the need, you could purchase anti-Bush shirts.

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Furtherman

05-05-2004, 11:38 AM

I didn't know there were political cartoons.

Hint: they are not on the funnies page.

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HBox

05-05-2004, 11:39 AM

That's what I want to hear about.

God forbid you have to confront the sacrifices being made for a war you support. If you can't handle it, you should reassess your position on this war.

1, Disney is a family entertainment that doesn't want to get political, or 2, they realized Moore is an idiot who often distorts the truth.

Ever hear of Disney owned Miramax? The company that put out Pulp Fiction? THAT'S quality family entertainment!

As for your second point, if they felt that way, why did they sign a distribution deal to start with? You REALLY need to know what you're talking about in the future.

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Tall_James

05-05-2004, 11:41 AM

Since everybody is doing it...

George Bush came to my house and made me watch PAX-TV.

Actually, it was the episode of "Seventh Heaven" with Lance Bass of N*Sync.

John Kerry came to my house and sodomized my dog.

They're just good friends.

Ralph Nader has been sitting in a car outside my house for the past 4 days.

This one is actually true.

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Jack_Doff

05-05-2004, 11:48 AM

4. Barring of distribution of Micheal Moore film by Disney.

They'd rather put out 50 crappy straight to video sequel cartoons with B-List actors (e.g., Lion King 1.5) that parents will buy their kids so they'll just shut up.

curtoid

05-05-2004, 12:20 PM

Didn't I tell you to stay out of Politics???

Maybe because you don't want to throw politics into an even that is watched all over the world?

Their claim was that they don't air "advocacy" spots, yet they will run the anti-smoking commercials, and the "if you do drugs you are a terrorist" propoganda.

That's what I want to hear about. The men and women who died over there while we are still there.

When should we be allowed to hear about it - when are our men and women NOT going to be over there getting killed??? Sticking your head in the sand is really effective. If you are so gung-ho about going over there and liberating this country, then see and honor those that made the ultimate sacrifice for this decision.

I didn't know there were political cartoons.

Zing. That showed 'em.

They probably did this for one of two reasons. 1, Disney is a family entertainment that doesn't want to get political, or 2, they realized Moore is an idiot who often distorts the truth.

1. Disney is family entertainment that every years has "Gay Day" at their parks, not to mention (as someone else pointed out) owns Miramax, which produced the KILL BILL movies.

2. Michael Moore is not an idiot. Actually watch ROGER AND ME and BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE instead of reading about them in reicht wing blogs; while he may muddy his argmument at times by going all over the map, and insterting himself into the movies as a major charactor, an educated viewer can usually find the truth - his points on the media and suburban fear made in COLUMBINE are brilliant. And the points made in his new film are valid ones that deserve more discourse.

If I type in anti-Bush t-shirt purchase into google, they bring up a lot of sites where, if you felt the need, you could purchase anti-Bush shirts.

But can I find an anti-Keithy Bo Beefy shirt???

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HBox

05-05-2004, 02:05 PM

Oh yeah, DAMN THAT LIBERAL MEDIA!!!!!!!!!

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keithy_19

05-05-2004, 03:07 PM

Um, I think you can find a site that makes a shirt for you. So if you really want to make that shirt, by all means, do it. Hell, people will say, 'hey, who's that on your shirt?' You'll say, 'some idiot from this messageboard." Then he'll tell two friends and then they'll tell two friends, and then, well everyone will know about the idiot on the messageboard! I'll be famous I tell ya! Famous!

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furie

05-05-2004, 03:42 PM

you're infering by that statement that it's all of the media blocking anti-bush ideas. that's only part of the media. here are examples of media pushing anti-bush ideas:

1. Moveon.org wanting to air an ad during superbowl
2. Nightline airing segment on lives lost in Iraq.
3. MSNBC showed the political cartoon in the first place
4. Micheal Moore. Nuff said.

Look at it from the other side.

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Doomstone

05-05-2004, 04:57 PM

1. Moveon.org wanting to air an ad during superbowl

Moveon.org is not a media outlet.

2. Nightline airing segment on lives lost in Iraq.

How is that anti-Bush?

3. MSNBC showed the political cartoon in the first place

So the fact that they didn't immediately censor someone's work is evidence of MSNBC "pushing anti-bush ideas?" You're not making sense here.

4. Micheal Moore. Nuff said.

Sean Hannity. Nuff said.

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curtoid

05-06-2004, 05:30 AM

4. Micheal Moore. Nuff said.

Pah-leeeeze.

I can't wait for this movie. Finally some discussion on the Bush family relationship with the Saudi's will maybe take place - the history with Saddam and propping him up - what GHW Bush did at the CIA - and hopefully (my favorite part of the Bush family tree) how Prescott Bush (our beloved President's grandfather) made his fortune - the same fortune that would eventually help send educate his children and grandchildren at Yale and buy his grandson a ticket out of 'Nam, and trickle down to indulge his two worthless, drunken twin great-grand daughters.

How will the Right Thinking Americans feel when the truth is out there (hell, the truth has always been out there) that their royal family got their blood money because Grampy Bush worked with the Nazi's in WW2?

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THE BUSH NAZI CONNECTION (http://www.lpdallas.org/features/draheim/dr991216.htm)

Bush Property Seized--Trading with the Enemy (http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm)

"The Bush family fortune came from the Third Reich."
-John Loftus, former US Justice Dept. Nazi War Crimes investigator and President of the Florida Holocaust Museum

"The Bush family fortune came from the Third Reich." (http://www.tupbiosystems.com/articles/bush_nazi.html)

Bush Finances Hitler. (http://www.ciagents.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=384)

"Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951" - Federal Documents (http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_2)

There are tons and tons more - many from legit news organizations. While I don't know what's in Moore's documentary, I wouldn't be surprised if this tid-bit comes out.

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05-06-2004, 05:41 AM

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zoom2457

05-06-2004, 08:05 AM

How will the Right Thinking Americans feel when the truth is out there (hell, the truth has always been out there) that their royal family got their blood money because Grampy Bush worked with the Nazi's in WW2?

Huh... I find that whole Nazi connection a little hard to believe. G.H. Bush fought in WW2, if the famliy was getting money from the Nazis, why did he volunteer to fight.

In June 1943 while still 18 years old, he was the youngest pilot in the Navy at that time. On active duty from August 1942 to September 1945 during World War II, Mr. Bush flew torpedo bombers off the USS San Jacinto. On September 2, 1944, Mr. Bush's plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire while making a bombing run over the Bonin Island of Chichi Jima, 600 miles south of Japan. Although the plane was afire and severely damaged, he completed his strafing run on the targeted Japanese installation before flying towards sea to bail out. Mr. Bush was able to bail out successfully and was rescued by a Navy submarine, the USS Finback. Tragically, his two crew members were killed. For his courageous service in the Pacific Theater, Mr. Bush was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross and three Air Medals.

legit news organizations

This I believe even less. Show me the legit news organizations that reported this.

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curtoid

05-06-2004, 09:25 AM

Huh... I find that whole Nazi connection a little hard to believe. G.H. Bush fought in WW2, if the famliy was getting money from the Nazis, why did he volunteer to fight.

Come out of the cave and do your own research.

This I believe even less. Show me the legit news organizations that reported this.

Typical.

Fine.

This story was FIRST written about in the summer of 1942 (!) in the New York Tribune on the Bush-Thyssen connection.

April 2001 - For the first time in over 60 years this a major media outlet brings up the story; The Boston Globe mentions that Prescott Bush partnered with Nazi industrialists, until his assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, when our troops were days away from fighting the Nazis in North Africa.

The story really broke in a small New Hampshire publication that I linked above, and later carried (on October 17, 2002) by The Associated Press, under the headline "Bush Ancestor's Bank Seized by Goverment."

"Bush's grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's rise to power, government documents show. Prescott Bush was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp., a NY investment bank owned by a bank controlled by the Thyssen family, according to recently declassified National Archives documents reviewed by AP... Reports of Bush's involvement with the seized bank have been circulating on the Internet for years and have been reported by some mainstream media. The newly declassified documents provide additional details about the Union Banking-Thyssen connection. Trent Duffy, a spokesman for Bush, declined to comment... Union Banking was seized by the government in October 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act... The new documents were first reported by freelance writer John Buchanan in The New Hampshire Gazette."

The Washington Post, right after, had a column by Howard Kurtz that mentioned it.

The following was the title of a January 03 article in a foreign language version of NEWSWEEK:

BUSH Family profited from slave work by prisoners of the Auschwitz concentration camp. Prescott Sheldon Bush, grandfather of George Walker Bush, had financial dealings during World War II with the Nazis, amassing a family fortune as a banker. Prescott Bush, was a shareholder of the company United Banking Corporation, working with industrialist Fritz Thyssen from the Nazistowskiego Silesian Consolidated Steel Corporation, where Auschwitz prisoners worked. The American press blew the whistle in 1942, and the U.S. government conducted an audit of USA UBC's books.

Maybe you will believe THE FEDERAL REGISTER (http://www.mbpolitics.com/bush2000/Vesting.htm)

If you think it's a phony, then just contact the National Archives and have them photocopy and mail you this exact page in order to conclusively verify it.
Archives (http://www.archives.gov/ )

It's free.

Oh, wait...you are more than likely one of those that only considers "Fox News" legit...ok, then...

FOX News - Bush's Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html)

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You don't want to believe this because it's uncomfortable and you haven't heard about it before. Even though there are federal documents after federal documents. Take a look at the title of this thread - you haven't heard about this because The Media hates anti-Bush opininion.

And if you question why and how GHW Bush could have served in WW2, mayybe you should ask him, in the context of how his father profited.

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JerryTaker

05-06-2004, 09:30 AM

Finally some discussion on the Bush family relationship with the Saudi's will maybe take place

Ever listen to Randi Rhodes on Air America? She gets into thier relationship a lot, especially with the recent airing of commercials for the Royal Saudi bank on CNN.

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zoom2457

05-06-2004, 09:59 AM

You know Curtoid if you had linked to the legitimate news organizations in the first place, it would have been more believable. I was just trying to verify this disturbing information. I'm not just going to take your word for it. I know that lots of people and companies were involved with the Nazis. I just hadn't heard that connection.

And if you question why and how GHW Bush could have served in WW2, mayybe you should ask him, in the context of how his father profited.

I'll call and set up an interview immediately. I'm sure with my zero credentials they'll talk to me.

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PS Try to be a little less condescending in your reply posts.

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serVice

05-06-2004, 10:00 AM

i thought he played guitar for Ozzy and died in a plane crash in the 80's. Didn't he play a polka dotted guitar?

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curtoid

05-06-2004, 10:03 AM

PS Try to be a little less condescending in your reply posts.

Double check your tone first before making such a request.

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zoom2457

05-06-2004, 10:05 AM

Double check your tone first before making such a request.

I did. My tone was fine. I just asked you to prove it, quit being a baby.

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mikeyboy

05-06-2004, 10:07 AM

Keep it to the issues.

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JerryTaker

05-06-2004, 10:09 AM

That was Randy Rhodes, and I'm sure quite a few around here won't appreciate you making fun of his guitars...

Here's Randi's site (http://randirhodes.com/)

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curtoid

05-06-2004, 10:11 AM

I did. My tone was fine. I just asked you to prove it, quit being a baby.

Oooooh, when all else fails, the name calling begins.

I will repeat...typical.

Fuck you.

I listed five links, all within topic, and you come on whining about them, demanding that someone does more work for you. And because I am not honored to be doing more work for your lazy ass, I get a finger pointed waved at me for not being more contrite in my information, and am then called names.

Pah!

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zoom2457

05-06-2004, 10:22 AM

Keep it to the issues.

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05-06-2004, 10:29 AM

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curtoid

05-06-2004, 10:36 AM

Don't forget Adam, Hoss, and Little Joe

LOL!!!

Thank god - a response from someone (with a sense of humor) who ISN'T busy wagging a finger at me (now in PM!!!) on ways I should behave.

I will take what little I can get and call it a day - I really do have more important things to do.

Thanks!

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keithy_19

05-06-2004, 11:20 AM

Just curious Curtoid, you'll be voting for Kerry. Correct?

:p

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jeffdwright2001

05-06-2004, 11:38 AM

Just curious Curtoid, you'll be voting for Kerry. Correct?

:p
I can't speak for Curtoid (well, I can, but it's not polite). However, I do know that in all the elections I've voted, my votes unfortunately have been less "for" a particular candidate and more "against" the other.

I think the trend (hopefully) is that more and more voters are beginning to think through individual issues and developing informed opinions. At least that has been the case for me. Of course, the result is that I can't buy into either "party line". Thus I end up voting folks from both sides of the political aisle into office.

The problem is that despite this more even distribution (as evidenced by such slight margins of advantage in places like congress), no matter which party is in the majority, they pretend that it's an endorsement of every single one of their political planks of the platform.

The defection of some political figures from one party to the other are often a sign that they are listening to their constintuency a little more (or at least their own idealogical heart).

Of course, it's much easier to close one's eyes and mind and just jump into one pool and then complain about how nasty the water is in the other.

I have many complaints about President Bush, however, I'm not sure that going back to Nazi connections he wasn't involved in is one of them. There are enough problems he has caused without stretching that far. It seems awfully close to blaming the grandson of a serial killer for his grandfather's crimes.

A majority of the "old" money families both Democratic and Republican are a product of financial transactions that weren't strictly "legal".

I try to base my opinion on any person by their actions and motivations rather than ascribing the actions and motivations of their parents and ancestors to them.

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keithy_19

05-06-2004, 11:47 AM

So....You're voting for Kerry Jeff?

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jeffdwright2001

05-06-2004, 12:08 PM

So....You're voting for Kerry Jeff?

Not necessarily.

"The original Constitution provides that if neither the President nor Vice President can serve, the Congress shall provide law stating who is next in line. Currently that law exists as 3 USC 19, a section of the U.S. Code. This law was established as part of the Presidential Succession Act of 1947. There, the following line of succession is provided:

1. Speaker of the House of Representatives
2. President Pro Tempore of the Senate
3. Secretary of State

Only 4 things have to happen for me to not vote for Kerry.

mikeyboy

05-06-2004, 12:18 PM

So...you're not allowed to vote, Keithy?

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FMJeff

05-06-2004, 12:31 PM

They probably did this for one of two reasons. 1, Disney is a family entertainment that doesn't want to get political, or 2, they realized Moore is an idiot who often distorts the truth.

WRONG. This is purely a political decision. Disney releases many violent, sexual films through its film subsidiaries. They made millions (over 100 mill, as i recall) on Bowling for Columbine (an Academy Award winning documentary, might i add which cost like 5 mill to make). Why wouldn't a company going through financial troubles (losing Pixar, reshuffling executive management) want to part ways with an established money maker like Michael Moore?

It's bullshit politics. Read Disney, The Mouse Betrayed.

an interesting, yet unrelated article (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36598)

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furie

05-06-2004, 12:42 PM

Moveon.org is not a media outlet.

absolutely it is. just as much as druge is.

How is that anti-Bush?

it was the method. koppel even admitted on curtis and kuby that it was reminiscent of Life's famous anti vietnam issue.

So the fact that they didn't immediately censor someone's work is evidence of MSNBC "pushing anti-bush ideas?" You're not making sense here.

that makes no sense. look at MSNBC's work. there's a definite pattern.

Sean Hannity. Nuff said.

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TheMojoPin

05-06-2004, 02:28 PM

How is that anti-Bush?

it was the method. koppel even admitted on curtis and kuby that it was reminiscent of Life's famous anti vietnam issue.

How is it anti-Bush?

Maybe if it had been Life's famous "anti-LBJ" article...

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zoom2457

05-06-2004, 04:35 PM

This is purely a political decision.

True.

Considering what state Disney has their biggest park in (Florida, if you didn't know). And further considering who is the governor of said state (Jeb Bush, if you didn't know). And even further considering who is the President (G.W. Bush, again, if you didn't know).

And we all know that the government plays fair, right????

I don't think Disney really had any choices here.

That being said, I'm sure Michael Moore will find some way to get this new documentary out to the people. And it gives him a new topic for his next documentary. "Disney the evil empire"

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keithy_19

05-06-2004, 04:47 PM

Ya know Mike, only if I could. Though some of my post's in this forum, oh hell, most of them are not thought out, I do spend a considerable amount of time watching the news and checking news stories. And I don't get my idea's from my parents. My dad is a democrat. My mom is a republican. I decide things for myself. I feel that I am a very educated teenager when it comes to politics and current events.

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HBox

05-06-2004, 04:58 PM

I feel that I am a very educated teenager when it comes to politics and current events.

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05-06-2004, 05:07 PM

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05-06-2004, 06:02 PM

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05-06-2004, 06:52 PM

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05-06-2004, 07:11 PM

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curtoid

05-06-2004, 07:35 PM

I hope everyone enjoyed the little two person show zoom2457 and I performed for you today. It was a little experimental piece called "Myopic Pentameter: Or How I Stopped Worrying About Irrational Cyberspace Feuds Between Two People Who Actually Agree With Each Other And Began To Love To Watch Mikeyboy's Finger Twitch On The Lock Button."

Thank you...thank you...

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Just curious Curtoid, you'll be voting for Kerry. Correct?

:p

If Kerry is the Democratic candidate, and he doesn't implode, then sure. While I have said before that incumbant Presidents always are running against themselves (Bush Sr. and Carter lost, while Reagan and Clinton their reelections won by desisive margins because Americans were judging how THEY did, not the challenger), I actually like Kerry almost as much as I hate Bush. Maybe not as much as I would have liked one of the other guys, but I think the guy would make an excellent President, who knows how to make compromises (note to President Bush...your father tried the same stunt trying to paint Clinton as a "waffler" by going to a waffle shop! - IT DIDN'T WORK!), shows a sharp mind, and would go a long, long way to help repair American's reputation around the world.

As I have also said - in my 5 Presidential elections I have voted twice for a Republican, twice for a Democrat, and once for an Independent. I am a registered Republican, and do vote GOP on some issues still, but for the most part, the agenda that is being railroaded through the Grand Old Party these days is being written at the expense of many of the principles I agree with.

If you aren't outraged at what's been going on, you aren't paying attention.

IF, for some reason, the Republicans decide to run someone other than Bush in November, I would absolutely give him or her a shot. OR (better yet) if the President suddenly finds a way to make some real strides in reversing all the damage he and his administration have done in the last 4 years, then I would give him a chance - of course, in order to do that he would have to use a time machine to go back four years, and then not steal the election.

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FMJeff

05-06-2004, 10:20 PM

True.

Considering what state Disney has their biggest park in (Florida, if you didn't know). And further considering who is the governor of said state (Jeb Bush, if you didn't know). And even further considering who is the President (G.W. Bush, again, if you didn't know).

Disney World was built years before Jeb Bush masturbating to Marolyn Monroe. It has nothing to do with it. They chose Florida for its consistently good weather and relatively cheap land. I believe it was a swamp at the time....if memory serves....

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FollowThisLogic

05-07-2004, 02:54 AM

If you're not gonna vote Bush, then go vote Nader. Kerry has promised to raise your taxes..... a lot. Like 50% of your income.

Screw all other issues, screw this argument.... FIFTY PERCENT OF YOUR INCOME. This is a campaign promise. He's actually telling people this, and people somehow still support him.

He would inherit an economy that's bouncing back - because of the current administration's policies, sorry to burst the left wing bubble - and then he'd shove it so far down the toilet you'd never know what hit ya.

Sooooo, if you want to be a complete moron, if you don't like the money you make and would rather be more generous when April 15 comes around, then have a blast voting Kerry. As for me, I kinda like money.

Oh, and regarding the Nazi shit....... leave it to you fucking Democrats to try to win a Presidency with a SCANDAL rather than with the ISSUES. Hell, in 2000 they tried to win not only with a scandal but a LAWSUIT! Winning the Presidency by lawsuit! And if you're going to mention anything about the popular vote, don't waste my time with your ignorance about why the Electoral College system works - that's right, it does work.

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AppleBoy

05-07-2004, 03:15 AM

If you're not gonna vote Bush, then go vote Nader.

He said 'Bush'. huh huh, huh huh

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jeffdwright2001

05-07-2004, 04:32 AM

I've always thought that the President has the smallest percentage of influence on the economy as most of the purse strings are controlled by Congress.

However, I will concede that in times of emergency/war, the President has more influence as to where the money is spent. Of course, Congress still approves a majority of those monies as well.

The President takes the credit when the economy is doing well and blames the congress for when it isn't.

Typically a campaigning President can only say where he would "like" to spend the money, ultimately, the budget still has to be approved. His specific sphere of influence has to do more with Trade Agreements and what votes he can wrangle in the House and Senate.

The only way that Kerry could raise our income tax to that 50% level is if Congress would give it a green light and I find that highly unlikely. Btw FollowThisLogic (or anyone that knows where it is)would you be kind enough to give me a link or location for the Kerry campaign promise for this tax increase? I apologize if this is common knowledge that I should already be aware of but I haven't seen it in print yet.

curtoid

05-07-2004, 05:03 AM

Somewhere an O&A Messageboard is going unmoderated...

Kerry has promised to raise your taxes..... a lot. Like 50% of your income.

No he didn't - no he won't.

That is such a smokescreen conservatives throw out in all elections - from local and state elections, to national ones.

Abortion rights being taken away, free speach being trampled, the enviroment being steam rolled, stem cells, big business and special interests, the failure of "Leave No Child Left Behind," the mess in Iraq, CIA leaks, the fact the entire world loaths us, job loss, lies, lies and even more lies.

* PAH! *

Oh, and regarding the Nazi shit....... leave it to you fucking Democrats...

I'm a fuckin Republican.

Sorry.

Winning the Presidency by lawsuit! And if you're going to mention anything about the popular vote, don't waste my time with your ignorance about why the Electoral College system works - that's right, it does work.

Hmmmmmm...ok...not going to have this discussion again; if you want to believe that there were no shenanigans in Florida before, during and after the election, then be my guest.

Also, don't come whining if GW wins the popular vote in November, but loses the electorial vote - something that is shockingly possible.

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05-07-2004, 10:20 AM

furie

05-07-2004, 02:17 PM

i used to think that Nader was a way to go, but recently i've been having doubts about him.

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keithy_19

05-07-2004, 03:19 PM

I've come to the conclusion that most of the fights on this board seem to start in this forum. Everyone needs to respect eachothers opiion no matter how wrong you think it is. If someone wants to support Bush, fine. If someone wants to support Kerry, fine. If someone wants to support Nader, your throwing your vote away, but fine. Politics is nothing more then a cafeteria where the kids yell at eachother from table to table. I used to like it and now it just bothers me.

If you need me I'll be looking at other forums...except the wrestling one.

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HBox

05-07-2004, 06:27 PM

Everyone needs to respect eachothers opiion no matter how wrong you think it is

Uninformed opinions are WRONG.

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TheMojoPin

05-07-2004, 09:01 PM

I've come to the conclusion that most of the fights on this board seem to start in this forum.

We had political/current affairs threads out the ying-yang before this forum was made.

This just hauled them all into one spot that people can more easily avoid them/dive in if they wish to.

Quite frankly, I've seen very few "board fights" stem from these kind of the threads (With a few very major exceptions), mainly because most of the most bitter "fighters" tend to not come across their "arch enemies" in the other forums. They tend to tread different paths, as it were...

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Yerdaddy

05-07-2004, 09:06 PM

Rummy?

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05-07-2004, 09:10 PM

You wanna fill this empty spot on the naked-pyramid?

DO YOU?!?

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reeshy

05-07-2004, 09:23 PM

Uninformed opinions are WRONG.

Now that's not necessarily true. You and I can have differing opinions and we can still come to the conclusion that my opinion is always right!!!!!!!

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05-07-2004, 10:10 PM

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FollowThisLogic

05-08-2004, 11:15 PM

Somewhere an O&A Messageboard is going unmoderated...

They always were, and that's why I don't participate in them anymore.

I'm a fuckin Republican.

Sorry.

Could've fooled me. But I guess if "Jews For Jesus" exist, you can call yourself a Republican too.

Also, don't come whining if GW wins the popular vote in November, but loses the electorial vote - something that is shockingly possible.

Hey, I'm all for the system working as designed, because the design actually works. It's pretty clear on this map. (http://www.rosecity.net/al_gore/election_map.html)

Liar!!!!!!!!!!!! You completely made this up.
Believe whatever you like..... but don't say I didn't warn you if he gets elected and it happens.... I'd skip the damn country.

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