How many wipes DOES it take...

[Katylina]

to wipe one's butt to completion after having a bowel movement?

I am teaching my low functioning autistic student how to wipe after a BM. As I have mentioned before in another thread, we put chocolate frosting on his leg, and he is required to wipe with toilet paper until there is no more frosting left. We slowly fade the placement of the pudding until it is actually on the buttocks, where the student wipes.

I had started this goal a few mobths ago, but my student has difficulties looking at what he is doing and knowing when to stop wiping. I take data once a week, and it is very variable (he wipes to completion one week and then does not the next week). Even through errorless teaching 4 days out of the week and graduated guidance (slowly fading the prompts back), he still is not successful.

We have come up with a behavior contract of sorts which will help him learn how to wipe to completion. Now, my question for you is, how many wipes (estimated) does it usally take to get rid of all the fecal matter in your behind? I chose 7 wipes to be on the safe side, but I hope it is enough!

The behavior contract is below:
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After every wipe, he will place a token on the board. When he gets all of his tokens, he earns a tootsie roll.

Token:
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Do you think 7 wipes are enough?

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This message was edited by Katylina on 5-13-04 @ 5:53 PM

[Iamnotatool]

Anything more than 2 can lead to ass problems. If it aint clean after 2, jump in the shower.

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[mdr55]

After every wipe, he will place a token on the board. When he gets all of his tokens, he earns a tootsie roll.


A tootsie roll?? Doesn't candy (chocolate) aide in producing bowel movements??


As to how many wipes, I think it depends on what type of bowel movement was produced.
Like if the bowel movement was hard, soft, extremely watery.

[mdr55]

Sorry double post.

Since we're talking experiments- how bout what type of faces are made during bowel movements like going from a:
:eg: hard to get out
:mad: not coming out
:blush: pushing it out
:) to relieved.
but
:( when you find out there's no more toilet paper.

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[Katylina]

A tootsie roll?? Doesn't candy (chocolate) aide in producing bowel movements??


It's not like we want him to stop going; we want him to learn how to wipe. Tootsie rolls are a very preferred reinforcer for my student.

I like your faces. My student tends to stim like crazy when he is having a BM, and there is no face for that!

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[FUNKMAN]

depends on how hairy their asses are... hopefully the girls have none
:)

the softer the poop, the more it will stick to your butt... have them eat alot of rice and meat

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[jeffdwright2001]

I'm not sure I'd be thrilled that my "reward" was getting to eat something with roughly the color and equivilant shape as what I've been trying to wipe away.

[Katylina]

My student has been known to smear the feces on the wall and give it a taste or two. I'm sure the tootsie roll won't phase him a bit.

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Yummy. Poo.

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My student has been known to smear the feces on the wall and give it a taste or two. I'm sure the tootsie roll won't phase him a bit.

Is Ed the student or the janitor?

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F‘cesT! My favorite subject!

Is autistic F‘cesT stinkier than your average schmuck's stool?

Hey I know a great way to torture Iraqis:

First we grab an Iraqi woman and put a funnel in her vagina and fill her up with my hot DiarrheaT. Then pack it in deep with my penis. Then let her walk away in total shame with my F‘cesTdeep in her vagina.

Then we grab an Iraqi man and stick a funnel into his bunghole and have an Iraqi elephant shit into his ass. Then the elephant can pack the shit in deep.

In these situations, it would not be proper etiquette to wipe.

I use Baby Wipes at the end of my wiping procedure. I even dig up there a little with my Wipe covered finger for a fresh hole everytime. My ass is cleaner than the gays. Right dear?



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[Katylina]

Actually, using wipes may be a solution if we cannot get him to wipe to completion with toilet tissue.

Who would have thought such a great suggestion would come in such a twisted feces filled post from my SWEETIE.



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speak of the motherfucking devil.

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[sr71blackbird]

Id say 7 swipes should do it too, then a baby wipe, and then dry it with toilet paper. Make it a fun routine;

" 7 swipes, a wipe, and a dab will do ya fine!
Now wash your hands, little man!
Here's your Tootsie Roll for cleaning up your hiney hole!"

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[Hottub]

Y ou have to be really careful when dealing with F‘cesT! I have my 6 year old only use 5 squares of TP per wipe. If it takes mulitiple 5 square wipes, that is fine. (cosistansy of the F‘cesT! has a lot to do with it.) If we are still not fresh, we go for the 2 year old's wipee's for a clean sweep.
Itchy butt is bad!!
hope this helps

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[Freebird]

I figure Katy and Ed have been working on this chocolate frosting thing for weeks now. If it was chocolate.....ever. :)

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I'm about to turn it up a notch!

[Hoojibs]

Mr. Owl. How many wipes does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll?

I guess it's 7.

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[serVice]

This may seem a bit off, but why are the parents of the children not teaching them things like this? Shouldn't the parents be teaching basic human skills?

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[Katylina]

Ever teach an autistic child? We do strict ABA (applied behavior analysis). A child with autism does not just "pick up" how to do things like typically developing children do. We have to teach them everything by breaking the tasks down to very small steps. We take data weekly to make sure that the child is learning each step. The parents have such a hard time teaching their children, and that is what we are there for. Any class for children with MR, autism, or other developmental disabilities will concentrate on activities of daily living as well as academics. Private schools, like the one that I work at, meet every need of the child, and we work with the parents as well in the home setting. We take the children out in the community, as well as teach them in the classroom.

When you have a child with autism, you have to teach them everything. The higher functioning children will catch on quickly, but when you are instruting a child who is lower functioning, it takes a very long time because of interfering behaviors and other processing problems.



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[ag]

My student has been known to smear the feces on the wall and give it a taste or two. I'm sure the tootsie roll won't phase him a bit.
Im soooooooo not hungry now

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