The Jets Westside Stadium

[furie]

Do you think the Westside Stadium
should be built?

[JohnnyCash]

No. Im all for a NY stadium but not in Manhattan. There wont be any parking and the construction is going to be a bitch for any driving or working in that area. TTraffic on the West Side Hgwy. and 10th ave. is really bad now. Building a Football Stadium right there will make it so much worse.

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[Marist Mike]

I have many feelings on this even though I am a Giant fan...but anyway...the Jets are the only team in sports to never have had an actual home game....I mean they started out at Shea and now with the Giants...I mean Jets fans see Giants stadium and have to dream....However, I feel that the Jets are being used for no perfect reason...I think that New York is using the Jets as an excuse to try to get the Olympics because that is what the stadium would be used for at first..and cmon let's be serious NYC is no way in hell getting the Olympics...and where the hell are they getting 600 million dollars from when the city says it's bleeding money...they have much better things to use that money for....and manhattan needs a new stadium like a hole in the head....and they go and say that a majority of their fan base is in that area...no it's not..it's in Queens and out on Long Island.....

[bigbaldirish]

no it should be on the Ex-pilgrim state property. so i can buy tix at the box office and become a scalper full time. and walk to work

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[smiler grogan]

I have no real opinion about this stadium. Whats really important is peoples opinion about the proposed nascar stadium in Staten Island?

[furie]

How is a NASCAR track more important than a domed NFL stadium that'll brink, amoung other things, the SuperBowl to NY?


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[JohnnyCash]

The plans for the stadium were awesome. It looked like a great stadium. If they could put it in Queens or out on Long Island it would be good. But not in the city.

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[TheGameHHH]

who cares where they play, they're still gonna suck

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[CruelCircus]

If anyone winds up being dumb enough to drive to this stadium for an event, they deserve all the traffic they have to sit in.


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[irishkb]

who cares where they play, they're still gonna suck


damn you game.. be quiet.... the jets are the best.... as a long time jets fan i like the idea of a stadium but sure as hell not in manhattan... that is the worst idea ever... the best thing about football games is tailgating... and a stadium in the city equals no tailgating... and let's not talk about traffic... just a dumb place to put a stadium.......

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[Wolf]

Why can't everyone tailgate in the subway and stagger over to the stadium?

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[BrownTown]

It's totally gonna blow to not sit in the parking lot for 5 - 10 hours waiting for the game by getting wasted & tending to a BBQ. That's half of the fun of going to the game.

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[NewYorkDragons80]

The plans for the stadium were awesome. It looked like a great stadium. If they could put it in Queens or out on Long Island it would be good. But not in the city.
That would be better, but the traffic would be horrendous. What I like about the stadium in Manhattan is that traffic wouldn't be a concern. Mass transit could bring people to the games. As long as the Jets get a stadium in either the 5 boroughs or LI, I'll be happy enough to soil myself.

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[badorties]

new york needs spectacles, larger than life buildings that serve as true gotham icons ...

the greatest sin was knocking down the original penn station ... in ten years - with downtown re-done and the new westside (newer penn station, the stadium and museum) will make new york become even more the capital of the world ...

manhattan will always be a tourist trap with traffic from hell, and there are alternatives to driving around the city ... any nit silly enough to drive through manhattan deserves to sit in endless traffic, that's why the good lord invented the subway ...



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[furie]

traffic won't be a problem. the same people who drive to MSG will be the same people who drive to WestSide; No One.


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[smiler grogan]

Tailgaiting has become not only a huge part of the football experience but a booming industry. Would this proposed stadium be able to accomodate this or would it become impossible to tailgate.

Furie, I was kidding about the importance of the nascar track.

[irishkb]

Would this proposed stadium be able to accomodate this or would it become impossible to tailgate.


doubt full because most likely there will be a parking deck somewhere.. there is no way there are going to get away with a stadium and a parking lot around it.... new stadium equals the end of jets tailgating

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[badorties]

the new westside stadium would have no space or facilities for tailgating ... there would be very little space allocated for parking in general

the concept is to have the bars/pubs in the area serve the pre-game facilities ... i also heard that they'll try to have facilities at the stadium for those that want to pseudo-tailgate inside ...

that's the big trade-off, but idon't think the owners or corporate box holders care too much ...



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[BoondockSaint]

the concept is to have the bars/pubs in the area serve the pre-game facilities ... i also heard that they'll try to have facilities at the stadium for those that want to pseudo-tailgate inside ...


So on Sundays when there is a one o'clock start you get a whole hour at the bar since they can't open until 12 on Sundays. And you figure you'll have to leave at 12:45 to get to your seat on time. You won't have enough time to get food.

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[NewYorkDragons80]

Who do you think is bankrolling these anti-Jets commercials? Concerned teachers? Firemen? Citizens? No, it's Cablevision. They know that a Manhattan football stadium would cut into their business. The truth is that $500 million is an investment that will make back all the costs in less that 5 years. Cablevision has always been about retaining their monopoly over the NY metro area. They think they own Long Island. Fucking hate them. Go Islanders. Rangers suck. End of angry rant.

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[A.J.]

I like the idea.

Question: would the stadium be close to a subway stop? This seemed to work when the Redskins played at RFK. The Stadium/Armory stop was right at RFK and traffic seemed to be less awful than it is at FedEx field.

Besides, almost all their games would be on a Sunday when there is less traffic anyway. What are the plans for parking though? That could curtail tailgating I suppose.

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[furie]

i think it'll be near Penn Station


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[mothershucker]

When did they move Penn Station to the West side?

By the way, no plans for tailgating, none. Fuck that, half the reason to go.

I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker

[furie]

did i say Penn was on the west side? no. when I say it's near i mean that the proposed stadium is near 34 st. So it's just a matter of walking west from 7th ave.


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[WRESTLINGFAN]

An idea for subway that was raised is to extend the #7 train that would lead to an expanded javits center and the new stadium

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[WindowSill]

Just another reason to hate Jim Dolan... (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1984431)


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[Snoogans]

GOOD

now let me say, i HATE dolan, im a knicks fan and he is the worst. at the same time, i HATE the idea of this stadium.

I want the Jets out of Giants Stadium more than anything. But the traffic and shit, i would never go to manhattan again. fuck, i think this is kinda funny actually, just buy the land so they cant. dolan will probably build a stadium on the land so he makes money.

the funniest thing would be, the Giants want a new stadium. the state is considering it, they should give the Giants a new stadium, and just let the Jets have Giants stadium and call it whatever the fuck they want

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[furie]

I think we have enough space in NYC for two Stadiums/Convention centers. MSG is just be greedy.


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[Snoogans]

QUEENS. the biggest areaa of jets fans is out there anyway. dont put it on the west side, ill never go down the westside highway again

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[WindowSill]

And Im sure theyre deciding what to do with you in mind Snoogans....


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[Snoogans]

its not just me, its alot of people. have you ever gone to a football game. half the fun is tailgating. its gonna make that whole area a mess on game and event days, a mess when they are building it. it will just be a mess. again, im not against a stadium, in fact i want the jets out, but thats the worst place they could put it.

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[WindowSill]

I dont disagree with you at all...traffic is brutal as it is. Im just pissed at Dolan for bein such a deek about it.


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[Davios]

The idea of the stadium is absurd. Traffic in Manhattan is unbearable as it is. If it were to be in Queens I'd be 100 percent behind this idea, but Woody Johnson refuses to put any money into making a stadium in Queens. He has come out and openly said he is only willing to build in Manhattan.

This whole idea is NOT about a stadium for the Jets, it's about Woody Johnson wanting to look like the Mr. Monopoly to his cronies. A stadium in Queens simply isn't as attractive as one in Manhattan, but the fact that it is virtually impossible to build anything on the West Side at this point is something Woody isn't interested in. He doesn't have to worry about traffic or anything else, other than looking like a big man to his pals.

[Snoogans]

ONLY solution: new stadium for the Giants, Jets keep the old one

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[MHasegawa]

How about move these queers to Long Iceland, seems to be enough fans there...

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[Kevin]

Put them in Queens where they belong.

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[furie]

QUEENS. the biggest areaa of jets fans is out there anyway. dont put it on the west side, ill never go down the westside highway again

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take the train

and as for queens, do you know how fucked up the traffic gets on the GCP when there's a Mets game or even tennis? Tennis!
It's NY, there will always be traffic. No one's going to be driving to the WSS, but most will drive to a queens stadium.

who drives to a knicks or rangers(when there was hockey) game? no one.

who drives to a yankee or mets game? most.




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[Snoogans]

mets queens, yankees bronx



who drives to a knicks or rangers(when there was hockey) game? no one.


no one tailgates, those games arent once a week either.




traffic gets on the GCP when there's a Mets game or even tennis? Tennis!


yea, how bout how traffic is westside WITHOUT any of that goin on

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[furie]

mets queens, yankees bronx


obviously, but the point is still valid

yea, how bout how traffic is westside WITHOUT any of that goin on

on a sunday afternoon, not that bad. how will it be with the stadium? bad. traffic will be bad no matter where you put it. It's bad around MSG, but i don't hear crys for that to be ripped out and placed in an outer boro.


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[Snoogans]

what point, you cant compare football to other sports, its not nearly the same thing.

football games are once a week, its like an event. you dont go to a 1 oclock giants game at 12:30, you go at 9:30, cook some food, throw a football around and drink. i dont wanna go to a football game and walk around manhattan for an hour

knicks and rangers games are different, people dont tailgate near as much, and there are so many games. plus, its a different crowd. basketball games are mainly bigshots who pay insane amounts for good seats.

football is real fans, and most of the real jets fans dont live in manhattan. they live in long island, queens and new jersey now.

like i said, im not against a stadium, but the westside, thats just not smart at all. and remember, now they will be in manhattan, say hello to 10 dollar beers and what little parking that is there is about to triple in price when most people will need it.

its more than just gettin there, its the price of goin, the ability to get there. not all fans with season tickets can take a train, its takes about 2 hours from here to get to the city by train. 20 minutes west of here, in an area about 30 min from giants stadium, you cant even get there without driving about 25 minutes to a train station that goes to secaucus.

i know 5 people who own jets season tickets, and i know 5 people who said they wont if they go to manhattan. thats a pretty bad ratio

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[furie]

ok, that's you. But I know 3 people with season tickets, all say they will go. And I have defacto season tickets because i buy them from a guy who never goes. I'll go, and a trip into the city is 40 minutes for me.

Queens is further than manhatten from jersey, travelling costs much higher, more tolls and the theaving LIRR to deal with.
Beer's going to cost $10 anyway, the Jets have to recoup $800 million and the city $600 million.



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[Snoogans]

yea cause of where they are building. it wouldnt cost that much in queens, and yea its farther from jersey, but the heart of the fans it makes it so much cheaper and closer too.

ill even say this, i occasinally get jets tickets, and since i dont take a train to the city, i would go to a game in queens before the west side, and i live in fuckin mahwah.

for the most part, trains are impractical. to get to MSG for me by car, on a sunday, about 30 minutes. to get to MSG on a sunday by train, being how long you have to wait for connections by me on a sunday, about 2 and a half hours. 2 and a half hours by train for whats 30 minutes by car. shit i got to stony brook from mahwah in 1:50 when there was a yankee game starting an hour after i left. thats stony brook, faster than a train to manhattan

FUCK TRAINS

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[Kevin]

The majority of Jet fans are From LI. Queens is close to LI so for them it would be much easier to go to Queens.

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[Snoogans]

on a sunday afternoon, not that bad


that is fine, but how about the first time in may that they have a concert on a tuesday night. or the circus, they dont want this to be for just the jets. they wanna have concerts, events, expos, and all of that type shit. they want that place running 200+ days a year. so dont tell me its only gonna cause traffic on sunday

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[yarpwizard]

I have season tickets for the Jets since 1977, who the hell cares what the name of the Stadium is. Just play good football and you will win.
I don't think the westside stadium will ever be built. People who go to football games want to tailgate...period. We get to the games at 9:00AM and stay 2 hours or more after the game. Who the hell wants to sit in traffic. Right now the Jets play in a great stadium with plenty of parking and yes , you can tailgate.
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[BoondockSaint]

I agree that putting this stadium on the westside of manhattan is just a stupid idea. I actually heard one of these guy say that instead of tailgating people could just go to a bar. Besides the fact of how much more exspensive that would be and how much less fun that would be, bars can't open on Sunday until noon.

And they keep saying that they need the stadium to keep our chances of getting the Olympics alive. Who the fuck wants the Olympics in NYC? Do you know what a cluster fuck that would be? It would cost a billion dollars just for the security. And for what, 12 days? Look how much money Greece lost this year on the Olympics and imagine how much that will be in 2012.

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[Bulldogcakes]

Traffic is the DUMBEST argument against the Stadium. For those who need to be reminded, the Jets play on SUNDAY. When traffic is the lightest.
Also, you can build traffic circles in/around the building which will get those cars off the road. Throw in a few traffic cops (Like the Yanks have) and things will be fine.
Also, when people know there's a game, they're likely to avoid the area entirely. So cars that would be there now, wont be with a stadium.



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[Snoogans]

BDC, you should really read where you post



Traffic is the DUMBEST argument against the Stadium. For those who need to be reminded, the Jets play on SUNDAY. When traffic is the lightest.




that is fine, but how about the first time in may that they have a concert on a tuesday night. or the circus, they dont want this to be for just the jets. they wanna have concerts, events, expos, and all of that type shit. they want that place running 200+ days a year. so dont tell me its only gonna cause traffic on sunday


like i said, they want this to make money. this isnt for the jets, they want this thing operational with something almost everyday

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[Bulldogcakes]

Those other events will be (mostly) conventions, which are mostly out of towners who will stay at the adjoining hotels. How many 50,000 seat stadium concerts does anyone do anymore? When was the last time you saw a concert like that at Shea/Meadowlands? You're lucky if you get a few a year. Again, traffic is the DUMBEST arguement.

I could see not wanting the City/State to spend the $. I could see not wanting it in your nieghborhood. I could see wanting more housing, which the City needs.

2nd dumbest argument is "build it in Queens". You want a stadium in Queens? Build one with your money. Dont tell someone else how to spend theirs. If it was MY $, I'd want it in Manhattan.

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[Snoogans]

they have concerts at giants stadium alot. id say ive been to probably 6 concerts at Giants stadium in the last 5 years, about the same as any other place

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[Bulldogcakes]

Exactly. So thats not a reason to support/oppose the deal

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[Snoogans]

and wanting a stadium in manhattan is just a dumb, waste of money in my eyes. it will cost so much more to build, run, buy things at, then any other place on the planet. plus its the jets. i could understand the giants moving to manhattan.

and how can you call the arguement of build it in queens dumb, THATS WHERE THE BIGGEST FANBASE IS. you also have room, could build some parking lots, people could still tailgate

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[BoondockSaint]

2nd dumbest argument is "build it in Queens". You want a stadium in Queens? Build one with your money. Dont tell someone else how to spend theirs. If it was MY $, I'd want it in Manhattan.


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[Snoogans]

exactly what, i didnt agree with you. you acted like giants stadium never has concerts, and asked how often i see one there. i see one there as often as i see one at PNC arts center, which is only for concerts.

and conventions do still make things a pain in the ass. they dont all stay in hotels, they arent all from far away. it would clog the area with cars and taxis and clog the sidewalks near it with tons of people. thats a pain in the ass. you dont build stadiums in the busiest spot around. its just stupid, especially when your fans arent even really concentrated in that area

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[Bulldogcakes]

2nd dumbest argument is "build it in Queens". You want a stadium in Queens? Build one with your money. Dont tell someone else how to spend theirs. If it was MY $, I'd want it in Manhattan.


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Whatever gets built on that site will require a platform, which is half the 600 mil. The other half is the dome, which the City, not the Jets want. Without the dome, the City cant use it for conventions, which is why they want it. The city is getting the Jets to pay for the building, which they will use.

If they put it in Queens, say Bye bye to most of the convention business. No payoff for the city.

Plus, The Jets dont WANT IT in Queens. Been there done that. What makes you think he'll still pony up the $ to put it there? He may decide to stay in Jersey, then NOTHING gets built

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[Bulldogcakes]

and how can you call the arguement of build it in queens dumb, THATS WHERE THE BIGGEST FANBASE IS. you also have room, could build some parking lots, people could still tailgate

People from Queens cant figure out how to get to the city?
Tailgate? If I'm spending 800 million on a building I dont give a fuck where you cook sausages

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[Bulldogcakes]

and conventions do still make things a pain in the ass. they dont all stay in hotels, they arent all from far away. it would clog the area with cars and taxis and clog the sidewalks near it with tons of people. thats a pain in the ass. you dont build stadiums in the busiest spot around. its just stupid, especially when your fans arent even really concentrated in that area

I drive down 11th ave past the Javits center numerous times a day, every day. IT'S ONE OF THE QUIETEST AREAS OF THE CITY, even when they have conventions. Minimal traffic. You really dont know what you're talking about.

And the PNC arts center is about 20,000 seats, if that. This is a 50,000 seat stadium. YOU should read the posts, Son. Compare apples to apples. How many shows at GIANT STADIUM? Very few.

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[BoondockSaint]

Tailgate? If I'm spending 800 million on a building I dont give a fuck where you cook sausages


So your basically saying "fuck you" to the 70,000 fans you want to shell out over $100 ten times a year?

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[Snoogans]

And the PNC arts center is about 20,000 seats, if that. This is a 50,000 seat stadium. YOU should read the posts, Son. Compare apples to apples. How many shows at GIANT STADIUM? Very few.


YOU FUCKING IDIOT. I HATE YOU. you called out the number of concerts i saw at Giants Stadium, sayin they dont really have any. i said then how come i see just as many at giants stadium as i do at PNC. i wasnt comparing the 2 venues to each other, i was comparing WHAT I DO in regards to them

YOU ARE A THICK SKULLED MORON AND I AM DONE WITH THIS

spay your dogs

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[Snoogans]

and also BDC if you bother to think.

Giants stdium doesnt have that many concerts because of CAA. most of the concerts are held there, which makes no difference cause the same people get the money.

its not gonna be that way with this, even though MSG holds most of the concerts, woody johnson wouldnt make money of that. so he is gonna wanna have the circus there and more concerts, so HE can make money. its not like he is building an arena somewhere else to have concerts.

this is his SOLE building, he would book it as much as he can, where as giants stadium is 1 of 3 buildings, so they dont have to whore it out

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[DJEvelEd]

I am just selfish for wanting it since it would be easier for me to see my team, I could care less about the traffic or parking, NY traffic is a clusterfuck now anyway. I'm takin the PATH baby!!!! I don't think the taxes even affect me since I'm in Jersey.

Going to a game is a nice option but I like watching ALL the Sunday NFL games at home on DirectTV. Maybe a Monday night game though...

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[Bulldogcakes]

Snoogie, follow along
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Lay off the weed, son. You make no sense.

Let me ask you this. If YOU were spending YOUR money, where would YOU want it? Be honest.


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This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 2-5-05 @ 8:51 PM

[Snoogans]

honestly, if i was spending my money, and ONLY my money, which he ISNT, i would put it in the place i thought i had the biggest fan base. i dont care about queens, thats just where the fans are. if the majority of Manhattan was jet fans, id still have a problem, but id understand alot more.

since manhattan is mainly giants fans, it doesnt make sense, no matter whose money it is

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[Snoogans]

and BDC, before thios gets ugly, what i said makes sense. you asked me, thats ME, how many concerts ive seen recently at giants stadium. all i did was answer "as many as ive seen anywhere else"

that was all my point was, answering your question to me. not how many they have.

and once again you forget, giatns stadium doesnt book alot of concerts cause they make money off the arena. the jets wouldnt have an arena to make money off of too, so they would have to schedule more stadium acts then they do at the meadowlands, to make as much money

thats just a fact

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[Snoogans]

the city of newyork should say fuck the jets, and then give the $600 mill to the NHL to recoup losses and FUCKIN PLAY

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[Bulldogcakes]

And Snogg, you missed my point about the Stadium concerts. Only the BIGGEST bands can FILL a 50,000 seat stadium. And there's so few of those bands, and how often do they even tour. They use the Brendon byrne and PNC because most Bands CANT FILL 50,000 seats. Plus the music biz has been struugling for years anyway. Its just not a big enough factor as to whether you should or shouldn't build a stadium.

BTW This is getting ugly? I dont think so.

THIS is ugly
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[DJEvelEd]

I also like the selfish aspect of us getting Olympic and World Cup Soccer games!

ME ME ME!!!

er....US US US!!!

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[Snoogans]

this seemed like the best place to put this:

Herman Edwards was just on Fat and the Douche Bag, and basically said they are gonna bring Doug Brien back next year.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

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[Snoogans]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

still laughing about Doug Brien

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[Kevin]

I think either the Giants or Jets should draft Mike Nugent. He is going to be a great kicker

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[Snoogans]

yea he could be the Giants first pick, ya know since accorsi traded all the good ones

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[Kevin]

Yea and we need a fucking kicker who can actualy have some fucking touchbacks. And not put the ball on the 35 all the damn time.

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[Snoogans]

Christie wasnt that bad. Sure he couldnt kick off, but he still hit the few 50+ yarders we had him kick. A hell of alot better than its been the past few years.
I do agree we should get Nugent, that kid could bomb 65 yarders, but we have alot of holes, and without a first round, we cant be drafting kickers.

Just go to Latvia and hold a try out. Gotta find someone

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[HBox]

New York Gets The Super Bowl in 2010............ if the Jets get their new Westside Stadium. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2018902)

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[mothershucker]

First Rudy G. does a comercial for it.

Now the Super Bowl?

I think the tide has turned. Lots of presure now for this to happen. No tailgaiting is going to suck major ass!

I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker

[BoondockSaint]

The Super Bowl! Nice! Another thing for rich people to do in Manhattan.

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Super Bowl 2010
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[Kevin]

First Rudy G. does a comercial for it.

Now the Super Bowl?

I think the tide has turned. Lots of presure now for this to happen. No tailgaiting is going to suck major ass!



They can put anything they want in their future plans. They still are not getting that shit done.

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[why_an]

Should they? Should they not? The topic could go either way.. but im for it thought.

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[Furtherman]

Great idea. Maybe they should hand out free season tickets to all police, firemen and teachers... who deserve that money.



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[Jack_Doff]

Maybe they should hand out free season tickets to all police, firemen and teachers... who deserve that money.


Don't fall for that dirty old trick. That group ABCNYC or whatever it's called Association for a Better Choice in NYC, the one that runs all those commercials, is backed by Cablevision. They don't care about better schools or hospitals or anything like that. They just don't want anyone to steal their concert and sport thunder.

[Furtherman]

I'm not talking about the commericals... which I don't think I've ever seen. I just this any money the city spends on building the stadium complex would be put to better use in paying our teachers, policemen and firemen a little more.

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[furie]

Funk, the city's not paying money for the stadium out of its cauffers; they'll be floating a bond. You can't float a bond to pay for teachers, cops, or firemen.


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[Bulldogcakes]

Great idea. Maybe they should hand out free season tickets to all police, firemen and teachers... who deserve that money.

Bullshit. I'm so sick of having that shoved down my throat every time ANYONE wants to do ANYTHING. First of all, Firefighters barely fucking work, which is why the all either cook great of look like schwartzenegger. Cops get 20 and out at half pay, and fucking Teachers get EVERY SUMMER OFF!
I work 12 hour days, six days a week, doing work thats both physical and stressful. I haven't a vacation in 10 years, because I'm self employed and I cant. And I'm supposed to feel sorry for these folks? Please. Spare me.

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[furie]

don't detract from those who put it on the line, just because your job sucks.
Oh, and I don't lump teachers in with Firemen and Police.


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[WindowSill]

MTA accepts Jets bid for Westside Stadium (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2026855)

HAHA! Fuck you Jim Dolan!


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[FXS]

<P>I think it is a good idea, with that said I work for a NYS politician who pays me to think that, however these sort of capital improvement projects are always scrutinized, i.e. why can't the money go to education, affordable housing, NYPD/FDNY salaries etc.. I used to think the same way, but working on the inside makes you realize the sad truth, it doesn't work that way, I wish it did. Now given that epiphant, under the current climate I think this is a good plan. It should create revenue, and jobs. And I did receive a autographed Joe Namath mini-helmet and John Abraham football in the past month, so I am bought easily :)</P>
<P>I hate it though when pols get up and talk about fair bidding and such, as is going on in Brooklyn w/ the Nets arena. Both the Atlantic Yards (Nets) and Hudson Yards have been dumps for years, now that someone wants to improve and build upon them, it becomes an issue. Politicians should find the myriad of other empty lots in NYC and propose improvement. Why block these potential money-making plans? Okay lemme get back to kissing my boss's ass.</P>
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[Snoogans]

Bullshit. I'm so sick of having that shoved down my throat every time ANYONE wants to do ANYTHING. First of all, Firefighters barely fucking work, which is why the all either cook great of look like schwartzenegger. Cops get 20 and out at half pay, and fucking Teachers get EVERY SUMMER OFF!


teachers also dont get paid over the summer, and most of them take summer jobs cause they NEED the money. I would hope firefighters arent working full time cause otherwise, we have an arson problem.

put it this way, regardless of who does what, cops, firemen and women, teachers, shit even bums need money before WOODY FUCKIN JOHNSON.

he can afford it all himself, trust me. he is just a greedy, stubborn, son of a bitch who has no idea about the pulse of his team or the fans, and just wants to make money and have the first stadium in manhattan. Shit its not even about the jets anymore, its all about the SB and olympics, and getting back at Dolan now by taking away alot of his profits.

fuck woody johnson, if he knew his ass from his elbow, this thing would be a done deal and being built....IN QUEENS

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[King Imp]

<P>Even though I'm more a Giants fan than a Jets fan and I don't live in NY, I'm so glad the Dolans of Cablevision got fucked on this deal. </P>
<P>Anyone who has Cablevision as their provider and knows how shitty a service they provide will probably agree. </P>
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[Snoogans]

im actually fine with my cablevision. i dont pay the bill though. i know my mom was bitching about when they raised the rates, which sucks, but strickly product, i dont have any problems. i love iO, everthough sometimes there still aint shit on. 20 HBOs or whatever and all the starz and shit and still sometimes no good movies. but thats not CV. and optimum online really never causes me any problems. its only gone out for more then a few seconds once in the last year, and it was for an hour, big deal.

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[furie]

cablevison puts out a fine product. no argument there. but the prices have become unreasonable.<br />


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