Beatles or Rolling Stones?

[The Blowhard]

I know how great the Beatles were, but to me The Stones rocked and as a kid I always had this argument with my Beatle loving friends. Anyone?
I know, I always like to be different! ;)

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[IkeaBoy]

I like Stones better. Sympathy for the Devil, in my opinion, is one of the best songs ever written and better than anything the Beatles ever did. I also thought the Beatles were overrated and tend to go against the grain.

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[Gvac]

Ah, a subject near and dear to my heart. While I would never deny the impact and importance of the Fab Four, I am a die hard Rolling Stones fanatic, and Keith Richards is the very reason I play guitar.

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This message was edited by gvac on 9-19-01 @ 7:00 AM

[TomPoo]

Please the Stones were an F'n garage band that put together a few good songs, while the Beatles revolutionized music.

The Beatle's music was a perfect blend of simple chord progressions, complex musical arrangements, and unique vocal harmonies.

The Stones laid down a riff, and hope to jam something out.

Plus I can't even take Mick Jagger seriously after I saw the Start Me Up video... GAY!!!!



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[TomPoo]

oh you heard me, and if i need to make it more clear, in a word, the Stones are

OVER-RATED!!!!

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[radio junkie]

Although I liked both, I thought the Beatles were better. The Stones had a rougher edge to them, and I didn't really get into them til the Let It Bleed album. The Stones wrote some better songs than the Beatles, but the Beatles had more songs I liked than the Stones. Gimme Shelter is one of the best songs ever written.

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[TomPoo]

There is no comparison between the two. The Stones are the ultimate Gods of Rock and Roll. George Harrison needs to Learn at the feet of Richards.


instrumental genious was not particularly important characteristic of Beatles music.

Do not mistake Harrison's minimalism with inability.

Harrison's fills were known for being distinctive. Think of his parts in A Hard Days Night, Harrison has his personal signature written all over Beatles songs without being overlly aggresive on the guitar. That in itself shows that the solo was not of central importance to the band, thus comparing Richards to Harrison in that way is not fair.

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[TomPoo]

I like Stones better. Sympathy for the Devil, in my opinion, is one of the best songs ever written and better than anything the Beatles ever did.


While I will definately agree that Symphony is a great song... but there are MANY Beatles songs that are as great if not better. To this day, "In My Life" stands as the greatest song ever written.

I also thought the Beatles were overrated and tend to go against the grain.


The fact that the Beatles did "go against the grain" is what made them great. No Rock band... or any band for that matter... will ever make there mark without breaking the rules. Both the Stones and the Beatles broke the norms... I happen to feel the Beatles achievments in music were much more significant than the Stones.



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[IkeaBoy]

the original line was 'I' tend to go against the grain but sometimes when you type as you think little words get left out.

I am not undermining The Beatles' importance and I do think they have produced some excellent songs but I still like the Stones better.



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[reeshy]

Tom,
I can see that this discussion can turn into a religious diatribe. No one right and no one wrong.
Just for me, when you say rock and roll, I hear Stones!!
The Beatles were great but the Stones ARE great!! For a band to be around as long as they have been, they had to be doing something right.
I said this on a previous post, When I hear Richards play, I sometimes want to weep with joy. I never really felt that way with the Beatles but that's what makes the world go round.

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[TomPoo]

the original line was 'I' tend to go against the grain

whoops, got a little over-zealous in this debate, my bad

I can see that this discussion can turn into a religious diatribe. No one right and no one wrong.
Just for me, when you say rock and roll, I hear Stones!!


I hear that brother.

When you say rock and roll I would agree that the Stones captured "Rock and Roll" more than the Beatles,

But overall musically, I am with the Beatles.

No one will ever win this debate, and there is no doubt that each band was great in there own right.

Who started this thread anyway... OH HECKLER... I should have known... always causing trouble. I swear one of these days I will pegg his ass with a Dodgeball

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[IkeaBoy]

you know those two are both GOOD but I think the greatest band of all time had to be The MOnkees.

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[Thunderlips]

Maybe I can put a little more gas on this fire.

I kind of put the Stones with Led Zeppelin. Classic, massively popular bands that I basically can't stand. Sure, they have a couple songs that will flat-out put a boot in your ass, but for the most part I just don't see the attraction.

I'm not any kind of Beatles freak, but just about every song of theirs that I have heard I really dig. They don't "rock" as much as the Stones, but they are just so solid with the songwriting and the music.

As a sidenote, I hear that with Michael Jackson's financial troubles, he had to take out a huge loan that Sony guaranteed for him because he put the Beatles rights up as collateral. Sooo, if his next album tanks as expected, Sony will control the Beatles and we'll be hearing their music everywhere. And who cares if it is? Why are they so special and sacrosanct?

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I kind of put the Stones with Led Zeppelin. Classic, massively popular bands that I basically can't stand


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[TomPoo]

I kind of put the Stones with Led Zeppelin. Classic, massively popular bands that I basically can't stand


Ok I can deal with a Beatles vs. Stones debate... But I will not stand for anyone to disrespect the GREATEST BAND EVER--- LED ZEPPELIN

Led Zeppelin was by far the most innovative rock band ever!

Not only did all 4 members exhibit there musical virtuosity, but they were able to equally balance all four parts of there music in there arrangements.

THEY WERE TRUE ROCK GODS!!!!

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It's funny that a 19 year old kid like Tom Poo can be such an expert!;)
I love both bands. The one thing I hated about the Beatles were their crappy pop songs. "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? "OblaDee Obladah"? What crap.
The Stones were the epitome of Rock and Roll, and mentioning their later stuff like "Start Me Up" is naive and not fair. Let's face it..if the Beatles were still around, they would probably be writing commercial jingles.

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HEYYY
Mr.Heckler,
What about me "While my Guitar Gently Weeps"?

You call that a jingle??

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[The Blowhard]

Gee, did Eric Clapton play on that record? ;)

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[reeshy]

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[reeshy]

Shit, Heck,
You got me so rattled that I didn't look like meself!!!

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[The Blowhard]

Hey, "The Duke" also rocked!

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[reeshy]

He's me hero!!!!!

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[TomPoo]

It's funny that a 19 year old kid like Tom Poo can be such an expert


Hey, I am 23 thankyou

(Oh God, how can I possibly debate music that was around before I was born)

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[The Blowhard]

Hey Tom, saying the Stones are overrated is, well, a bit drastic. It's your opinion, but overrated???
Stick to dodgeball, ok? ;)


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[reeshy]

Tom,
You know what's scarier than being born before this music?
Being around to hear it when it was new!!!!!GIGIGIGI

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[TomPoo]

HA!!! HA!!! Heckler was born when this music was new!!!!

And make all the jokes you want about dodgeball, cause I will be the one lughing when your face is planted on the side of one!

And yes I went overboard with calling the stone over-rated... but not when I called Zeppelin GODS!!!

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Hey Tom,
You really think that Zep are Gods? How 'bout we discuss this while we take a walk in the desert-alone!!!

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[Gvac]

TomPoo,

It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong, and I thank you for withdrawing the "overrated" comment.

As far as the mighty Zep is concerned, yes, a truly magnificent band, one of my all-time favorites. Amazing musicianship through and through. Jimmy Page is probably one of the most influential rock guitarists in history.

The reason they also take a back seat to the Stones in my book, though, is that while Zep did indeed touch on several different musical styles, no one, but NO ONE, comes close to the World's Greatest Rock 'N' Roll Band in that category. At their best, a Stones album would typically feature a hard rockin' song or 2, a soul number, something funky, a country tune, some blues, and a tasty ballad. Their ability to flow in and around such a myriad of musical styles is what cements their position as the greatest
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[IkeaBoy]

Zeppelin fucking rocks, don't insult them.

What makes Stones great is the variety of their songs. And yes, The Beatles did do A LOT of pop music especially early in their career.

But still Peter Tork can beat all of the above with one hand tied behind hisback.

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[Gvac]

Lets take a look at this debate side by side by side by side:

(Beatles, Stones, Zep, Monkees, respectively)

Vocals: Lennon/McCartney, Jagger, Plant, Davey Jones

Guitar: Harrison/Lennon, Richards/Wood (&Jones & Taylor), Page, Michael Nesmith

Bass: McCartney, Wyman, John Paul Jones, Mickey Dolenz

Drums: Starr, Watts, Bonham, Peter Tork


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This issue is like comparing chocolate and vanilla ice cream. Both excell and you can't have one without thinking of the other.

Still neither of them are butter pecan.

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[TomPoo]

This issue is like comparing chocolate and vanilla ice cream. Both excell and you can't have one without thinking of the other.


what are you talking about??? choclate is way better than vanilla!!!!!

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Um..the stones.

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TomPoo i finally agree BEATLES thats why i play Luwig drums GVAC the first time i saw a strobe light was to SYMPATHY at the electric circus on st marks

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the beatles win that debate. the stones only move me when i'm drunk.
the who kick all their asses

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[jafter]

The beatles were the most influential band of all time bar none. Musicaly and culturally.

The stones rocked harder than the beatles. Varied styles and longevity. Mick Taylor was very influential on the stones style after the death of brian jones.

Zeppelin was the most influential hard rock band and changed the way bands were managed especially when it came to album promotions and the amount promoters made.

The monkees did have there place in television and music and the session musicians and writers did a good job. The music still holds up today. Get out the old records and put them on the turntable.

I would listen to all four of these bands before I would buy any of this crap that is out here today.
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No talent bums.
Even bands like limp bizkit what the F___ are they so angry about. Get over it.

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My sister (RIP) lived the Beatles! I think that they revolutionized music as we know it today!

BUT, to think tha the Stones and the Beatlea are comparible0 Bah-Humbug- the Stones are Gods!!

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Ringo: Minus points in this argument.
I also hated some of the Beatles "silly songs", like "Obla Dee". If Chris "Corky" Burke the retard sang it, more points deducted.

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gotta go with the stones crew here. i wont get into my appreciation for the beatles and all they contributed to music, since it's all been said earlier in this thread, but... stones. choclate is way better than vanilla!!!!just a little more proof that you have no idea what you're talking about, tommy

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I love both bands and I can't pick one over the other. However, (with a few exceptions) I tend to favor the Stones albums from 1963-1974.

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The Beatles are the greatest. Hands down. They are responsible for all of the music that followed them. They cover almost every style of music. The Stones are great though.

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I also hated some of the Beatles "silly songs", like "Obla Dee".


I hate the version on The White Album but I like the version on The Anthology Volume 3.

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i forget who it was, but early on in this thread, somebody negatively compared george Harrison's guitar playing to keith richard's. now nothing against keith, i love the the stones, but playing-wise he is not nearly as good as george. He keeps his guitar in an open G tuning so that he can bang on it an it'll be in tune. that's fine for the stone's style of music, but it doesn't make you a virtuoso. Harrison, on the otherhand, was a fantastic all around musician. Could keith richards have written "here comes the sun" or "something"? He was also the first westerner to bring Indian music over, and he made it work.

For those of you who doubt me, listen to a keith solo album, then listen to "all things must pass"

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Good point Hippie. George is a very underrated guitarist. I love his soloing from "All My Loving" to his slide on "My Sweet Lord".

But Keith still rocks and wrote some great music. OK, maybe Ry Cooder DID write the intro to "Honky Tonk Women"...



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You guys are also forgetting that George Harrison was lead guitar for the Beatles and Keith Richard was RHYTHM guitar for the Stones...
Keith's tuning of his guitar was no doubt a way to play chords in an easier way...But you cannot argue with his method "LESS IS MORE"!
No doubt in my mind that the Beatles were and still are influential in popular music...But the The Rolling Stones were and will always be the WORLD'S GREATEST ROCK BAND...

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the beatles are the greatest pop band of all time and the stones are the greatest rock band of all times.

what is there to argue?

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