Am I The Only One Not Impressed w/ Shyamalan?

[curtoid]

As in M. Night Shyamalan.

I mean, his movies are all right, I supposed, but none of them have really gotten me; I figured out SIXTH SENSE in the first few minutes; I really didn't care about UNBREAKABLE; and SIGNS was actually kind of corny (no pun intended).

And THE VILLIAGE - man, I can only imagine what the big TWIST is! Eeeeesh.

I really feel I'm alone with this - so many people I know are going nuts want to go see this, and I have no interest; and normally this is the kind of stuff I would eat up.



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[schmega]

i already read the spoilers for the village. its as simple-minded as water was for Signs. he takes you on a pretty nice ride, but you end up hating the destination.

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[PhishHead]

You are not only...i think he is a horrible director and story teller and i wish to god they would stop comparing him to hitchcock and serling, he is horrible his movies have horrible twists and are easy to figure out. Too bad that 90% of the population is so intrigued by him they dont give a shit what kind of crap he puts out.

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[Mike Teacher]

I dug Sixth Sense even though I didnt see it until it hit cable and everyone knew, Unbreakable sounded SO Cool, but I couldnt take it.

Signs scared the piss out of me at the beginning, and had some really scary moments, but the movie pill got bigger and bigger, and yep, cornier, adn its a good pun!; still, I like depressing movies, and the wife subplot is truly depressing. I thought Joaquin was pretty damn good alternating and hilarious when he was scared shitless. For some reason, the VidCam footage sequence that is shown on the news still scares me thinking about it.

It doesnt pass my Really Good Scary Movie test though. If I watch it again; it doesnt hold my interest. Alien? I could watch it every week.

This looks like a turd.



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[ChickenHawk]

It's because he has a cool-sounding name.

If his name was Raymond Burke or Ted Randall, no one would give a shit about his movies.

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[HBox]

I absolutely loved The Sixth Sense and Signs, the latter in spite of a horrible storyline that made no sense and a twist that wasn't really a twist, and was laughable. I liked Unbreakble. IMO, he is a very skilled filmmaker. I always get immersed in his films.

HOWEVER, The Village just seems too stupid for me to consider seeing. The ending is just ridiculous. IMO, he is streching himself always trying to come up with twist endings. He'd serve his abilities better if he forgot about it.

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

I can only imagine what the big TWIST is!


Joaquin Phoenix is dead through the whole movie.

And the movie blows.

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[TheMojoPin]

He's a hack.

Even the movies that are good when you first watch them ("Sixth Sense"), they don't hold up when you watch them again.

Mostly he stinks for fucking up "Unbreakable." What a cool friggin' concept, and he flushed it right down the crapper.

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[Tall_James]

Someone please PM me with the actual spoiler ending for this movie - I don't want to waste the money.


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[FMJeff]

Every real comic book fan loves Unbreakable. Mojo, you need to put the bitter pills back in the medicine cabinet. That movie was great.

Sixth Sense everyone loved.

Signs was ruined by the ending for me. Otherwise I enjoyed it.

Jeez, he may not be the greatest filmmaker ever, but he certainly isn't a hack...the guy made three top grossing films without skipping a beat...that's not just blind luck...his films aren't exactely mainstream either...that takes some skill and talent...i mean cmon who is not a hack to you? Aren't you being just a little too critical?

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[fiestygal]

Shyamalan-ama-ding dong was a rich kid who went to private school (i drive pass that school when i go to university for classes)

hes no genious and i dont understand what the big deal with him is either


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[blakjeezis]

Six Sense was good because it was different. Unbreakable was great. I think the sequel would make it better, but he turned into a bitch about it because it didn't get box office, but maybe some day. Signs was ehhhh. I thought the majority of the movie was good, but the ending was cheesey and too preachy. And the whole water thing was just retarded. Stuart Little, however, was a cinematic masterpiece.

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[Melrapuo]

As in M. Night Shyamalan.


There's another Shyamalan I'm supposed to know about?

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Shama-Shama-Sham-ah it doesn't really matter anyway does it?

the guy made three top grossing films without skipping a beat...that's not just blind luck


Could it be that people are just that stupid that they buy into his whole genius of a filmmaker schpele?

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[TheMojoPin]

Every real comic book fan loves Unbreakable. Mojo, you need to put the bitter pills back in the medicine cabinet. That movie was great.

Fuck no.

The CONCEPT was great. The IDEA was brilliant. The EXECUTION was unspeakably average.

Blech.

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[DarkHippie]

The Sixth Sense was great.

Unbreakable to me felt like the beginning of a good movie. It never quite resolved.

i liked Signs, even though the water was so fucking obvious.

i think people are just easily impressed these days, myself included.

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

the water was so fucking obvious.


That's what disappointed me about Signs-- why fucking choose a planet that is covered in water and where it rains? Humidity? Hello?

The Village sucked, people!

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[fezident]

I actually dont LOVE any of his movies but, I just saw The Village and I really liked it.

Everyone is soooo busy looking for the big twist that they dont just enjoy the movie for what it is. A GOOD LITTLE STORY. It's not a murder mystery and it's not a whodunnit. It's more of an urban legend kinda thing. It's just fun to tell (watch) and experience.

I admit that my expectations were REEALLY low for this because of how much I despised The Sixth Sense (the ending simply does not hold up) and Unbreakable but...all in all...The Village was a good eerie movie.



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[furie]

I liked the Sixth Sense, i didn't see it coming. the rest of his movies so far have sucked. So I'm not terrible impressed.


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[curtoid]

There's another Shyamalan I'm supposed to know about?

Scooter Shyamalan, his second cousin from Canada best known from his role as Otto The Orphan from "Degrassi"



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[stickyfingers]

I thought The Village was good because the whole time it had you thinking about what was going on with those things in the woods...after they revealed what was up with that you had to have had looked past that to figure out the ending. I thought he did a good job when he talked about "the no fly zone" to explain that a lot of things had to be done to make this actually happen.

And i'm sure a lot of you picked up on this but Mr. Shyamalan was in the movie in a reflection on the medicine thing.



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[curtoid]

I guess my problems with him and his films, to sort of echo what Mojo said, are the pay offs aren't as good as the set ups - at least in my opinion.

I was with all three of the other films until the shoe drops and you find out everything; I think I would have liked SIXTHS SENSE, however, had I not figured it out from the start.

I always go back to the first MATRIX, where the mystery of the first third of the movie was trying to figure out what exactly was the "matrix." The challenge to brothers was to make sure revealing the mystery wasn't a disappointment.

On a smaller scale, also imagine in BEING JOHN MALKOVICH had the payoff of finding out what it would be like if John Malkovich went inside John Malkovich had not been so wicked cool?

Imagine...go on...imagine!

I rest my case.



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[fezident]

Okay everybody...we get it. Everyone "figures it out" two mins into the movie. Alright.
But that's not the point of his movies! They're not guessing games. They're just stories.
I knew the Titanic was gonna sink. Rocky always wins. James Bond saves the day and bangs the hot chick. We all always know the ending to 99 percent of all movies. But that doesnt stop us from watching the story unfold.

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[curtoid]

Rocky always wins.

I don't want to ruin anything, but that's not really true.



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[fezident]

I stink, but you get my point.

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[curtoid]

I stink, but you get my point.

I did, and I was just busting balls - I agree that the story should matter, and one of these days I'll watch his movies again on DVD to just watch them for the stories, and might agree with you. When I saw them in the theatre, I couldn't get past the whole "what is the twist" set up.

I guess part of me is just annoyed that after one good movie that took everyone by surprise, he is still getting top billing over his pictures, and I can think of (easily) a dozen directors I like better who don't seek out that kind of attention.

I like the more of the Steven Soderbergh way of making films - he said very early in his career that he would never put "A Film By Steven Soderbergh" on his films, and to date (as far as I know) he has not.

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[furie]

well, i just saw the village. you can see the twist coming a mile away.

not a bad movie in all


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[fezident]

I just heard yet another radio show talking aboot the "twist" in The Village and of course callers were so proud of themselves for "solving the case" early in the movie.

It's not a twist! It's just the end of the movie. It's called RESOLUTION.

I saw a magician put a woman in a long box, cut her in half, take the box apart, and put it back together. Guess what....the woman was unharmed!! What a shitty twist. I just knew she was going to be uninjured.




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[JohnnyCash]

Im not impressed with him at all. I wasnt even that impressed with the Sixth Sense.

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[blakjeezis]

He needs to get off the M. Night wagon. He thinks he's making arthouse films for the masses. He should just stick to making good movies. He's become so obsessed with his twist endings and what not and they're just getting sillier and sillier. The first part of 'The Village' was great. He is an excellent director, his eye and his use of sound are better than pretty much anyone else out there as far as setting a mood. His talents as a storyteller are pretty good as well, but I think it might be time for him to set down his pen and work from someone else's script. Personally, I would like him to direct a Harry Potter film. I would love to see his take on 'Order of the Phoenix'. But that's just me, I think I am Harry Potter.

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[Hoojibs]

I liked the Village but grouping them with the rest I rank it as #4 with all his movies.

I don't think of him a genius, but I would go see a movie just cause he directed it.

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[grlNIN]

Even the movies that are good when you first watch them ("Sixth Sense"), they don't hold up when you watch them again.


Too true.

I liked Signs, aside from the obvious water ending i thought the subltey of the humor was great. The story with the wife was majorly depressing also.


I'm gonna go find the spoiler to The Village, i saw something about the movie on E! the other night around 4am and im just wondering if the "twist" at the end has anything to do with the blind girl(who is played by Ron Howards daughter).

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Spoiler:It's all a hoax by the elders who happen to want to isolate the village from the modern world, because the elders are people who with a billionare constructed a village free of money, sin, and murder.

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[Doctor Manhattan]

I just heard yet another radio show talking aboot the "twist" in The Village and of course callers were so proud of themselves for "solving the case" early in the movie.

It's not a twist! It's just the end of the movie. It's called RESOLUTION.

I think M Night has type cast himself (if that's the right tern for a director) so now no matter how he makes a movie people are looking for that twist even if the plot is straight forward.

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im just wondering if the "twist" at the end has anything to do with the blind girl


it kinda does



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[schmega]

something i've always wondered about Signs: if you kill someone with your vehicle because you fell asleep, arent you still liable? shouldnt you be in jail?

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[TheGameHHH]

I just saw 'The Village' last night and it was hands down the worst movie I've seen in the past 5 years and possibly the worst since 'Batman Returns'.

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[furie]

something i've always wondered about Signs: if you kill someone with your vehicle because you fell asleep, arent you still liable? shouldnt you be in jail?

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[LordJezo]

The Village had this reaction from me, if anyone cares, which you dont, but I am going to say it anyway:

Start.. Oh, this is cool.

Middleish.. Awesome!

End quater.. Oh crap. F U M Night.

Almost the end.. Oo, cool again?? Wait, nope!

End.. F U M Night. Go away.

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[BandofBrothers]

The Village had this reaction from me, if anyone cares, which you dont, but I am going to say it anyway:

Start.. Oh, this is cool.

Middleish.. Awesome!

End quater.. Oh crap. F U M Night.

Almost the end.. Oo, cool again?? Wait, nope!

End.. F U M Night. Go away.

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Same here.

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[TheGameHHH]

i'd also like to break down my movie going expierence with 'The Village'

Start......Oh god this blows

Middleish......Wow, I can't believe Hollywood allows films like these to be shown on screens nationwide

End quarter........Should I walk out now and meet my friends at the car or try and stick this out

Almost the end.......I wonder if anybody in here has a gun so I can shoot myself and make this pain end

End.......I actually want to write a letter to this M. Night guy and demand my 9 dollars back.

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[Johnny4]

Prediction: M. NIght will not make another movie close to his first 2 big ones. I gues his idol is really George Lucas.

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[TheMojoPin]

possibly the worst since 'Batman Returns'

Which means you actually thought "Batman Forever" and "Batman & Robin" were better than something?

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[TheGameHHH]

Which means you actually thought "Batman Forever" and "Batman & Robin" were better than something?

no, clearly it means that the sequel was so horrible I stopped paying attention to the whole franchise after that.

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[TheMojoPin]

Touche.

Personally, I don't think there's been a good Batman film yet.

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[HBox]

Personally, I don't think there's been a good Batman film yet.

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Review: The Village



I could see it coming, the trailer for M. Night Shyamalan's new movie promises a monster movie and gave me something else. This is a rabbit hat trick that is now M. Night's signature, and it was a pretty good trick (not hard to see where it's going till the very end). "The Village" is the 4th major film with Disney and it is M.N.Shy's weakest effort of the bunch, but at least the cast is good and the atmosphere is involving.



The fable is small and I thought I was watching a version of the "Blair Witch" written by Antone Chekhov, the story of a sectarian group of people in the small village of Covington Pa in the late 1800's that are almost like Amish settlers. The are overseen by the town elders lead by Edward Walker (big role for William Hurt), the teacher and history professor that is father to his flock. The village is surrounded by a forest that is full of creatures that don't want to be bothered so the people put up watch towers and man the post at night to keep watch. When Lucius Hunt (Joaquin Phoenix from Signs) wants to go outside the village to find medicine from a neighboring town (his best friend died), the creatures cross the line and come inside the town. Sometimes this works as good scary stuff. The center of this tale is a love story, Lucius Hunt is deeply in love with Ed Walker's blind daughter Ivy and wants to marry her. Ivy is a bold young women who is more outspoken about her love than Lucius. The town is terrorized, and this leads to unforeseen events, the elders have to make a life and death choice to leave the village.



There is a star making role by Bryce Dallas Howard (daughter of Ron "Opie" Howard) as the lovely blind Ivy, she is captivating and beautiful. Phoenix is OK, and William Hurt is a total pro (his beat role in years). Sigourney Weaver is reunited with Hurt (the did "Eyewitness" in the 80's) in the role of Lucius's mom Alice, Brendan Gleeson is on hand as the pastor elder. The problem isn't the direction but the script is lazy on MNShy's part. It's a Rod Sterling type ending that will piss off most but maybe it will suffice some. I say see the movie before you get spoiled by some bigmouth assface. I was slightly disappointed. It is Yer Call, BTJ.



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I thought The Sixth Sense was OK. Almost like a coming of age/ghost story.

Unbreakable was good. I enjoyed the whole concept. I especially liked the low-key feel to a superhero flick.

Signs I haven't seen, the plot just didn't grab me enough to actually see it.

I will see the Village however. I'll give it a chance.

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Yikes, some scathing reviews on this post. But here is what I agree with, as said by fezident:


Everyone is soooo busy looking for the big twist that they dont just enjoy the movie for what it is. A GOOD LITTLE STORY. It's not a murder mystery and it's not a whodunnit. It's more of an urban legend kinda thing. It's just fun to tell (watch) and experience.


I wonder if Night's movies weren't marketed as "An M Night Shyamalan Film" people wouldn't have such expectations. So many people were down of it just by watching the preview.

I just saw the movie and I liked it. I thought it was very well done. I figured what the ending might be towards the film's end, but that wasn't something that made the movie for me.

It was story. The Lucius - Ivy - Noah story. The elders sacrifice of so much for a peaceful community, but by fear and deception, and hidden feelings, such as the Willam Hurt & Sigourney Weaver characters.

Bryce Dallas Howard's performance was worth the price of admission alone.

Don't see the movie for a twist that will have you gasping. See it for a story that will have you thinking.

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I wonder if Night's movies weren't marketed as "An M Night Shyamalan Film" people wouldn't have such expectations. So many people were down of it just by watching the preview.

Didn't the preview to The Village actually have clips from Sixth Sense, Unbreakable and Signs in it? At least the teaser did.

M Night created this image forhimself. Everything he does has a weird twist to it.

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[grlNIN]

If i hadn't read the spoiler online before i stole it and watched it, maybe i would have liked it more but it was just too slow paced for me.

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his movies were ok. i loked the 6th sense, but he does come across as a bir of a pompas ass.


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