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42nd-delay
09-09-2004, 04:22 PM
Is anyone else worried about these things? I'd expect this to be an issue that would cross party lines. I'm more than a bit anxious about the fact that the new touch-screen machines seem to be, at best, unrealiable, and at worst, ripe for corruption.
The latest:
State Joins Suit Over Voting Machines (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-machines8sep08,1,384118.story)
Some excerpts:
California Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer on Tuesday said he will join a lawsuit against voting machine manufacturer Diebold Election Systems for allegedly lying to state regulators about the security of some of its equipment.
The lawsuit was filed in November by two voting-rights activists who contend that Texas-based Diebold sold vote-counting equipment to Alameda County that was susceptible to tampering.
And this is really scary (emphasis is mine):
The system's key vulnerability is that county election workers or others with access to the machines could type in a two-digit code and create a second set of results that would then be forwarded to the state as the county's official tally , said Bev Harris, one of the activists who filed the case. She said the Diebold vote-tabulating equipment at the center of the lawsuit is used in 19 California counties, including Los Angeles County.
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furie
09-09-2004, 04:36 PM
the butterfly ballot was not hard! change is meant to be positive. the Electronic Voting Machines are too problematic.
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sr71blackbird
09-09-2004, 05:08 PM
I dont know why they are insisting on these things, especially after what happened last election. Too bad they cant invent a way to log onto a secure site somewhere and vote, maybe more people would do it.
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42nd-delay
09-09-2004, 05:21 PM
Too bad they cant invent a way to log onto a secure site somewhere and vote, maybe more people would do it.
From what I've read, it would require the creation of a whole new network, since the Internet is intrinsically too insecure for such a voting system. Sadly, I feel like the creation of such a system is something beyond the capabilities of our current political representives and political climate.
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NewYorkDragons80
09-09-2004, 07:09 PM
From what I've read, it would require the creation of a whole new network, since the Internet is intrinsically too insecure for such a voting system.
Indeed. In that case, Urkel for President would become something far more serious than a cereal box contest.
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SatCam
09-10-2004, 11:53 AM
The creation of an electronic voting site seems just as good as paper ballots. Only computers would be more safe (despite what some people think), there would be multiple ways of logging the information, and results woud be able to be counted a lot faster, not to mention have an acurrate count.
People say "what if the people at the polling site/the software company rigged it?" With paper ballots, can't you do the exact same thing? Punch a hole in a few ballots in the back room and you got yourself the same exact concept.
There are also some skeptics who say "what if someone hacks it?" (I was actually watching C-SPAN and someone said that a 14-year-old could hack these things.) The answer is simple. Because we do not have technologies, everything would still have to be reported from the polling site to the central polling office place. NO connection to the internet would be established. Rather, a computer can just print up the totals. You wouldn't need five little old ladies at 11pm November 2nd counting each ballot.
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jeffdwright2001
09-10-2004, 11:56 AM
Biometrics as a possibility?
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SatCam
09-10-2004, 12:02 PM
Killing two black guys that day is a vote for bush. Killing one white guy is a vote for kerry. At the end of the day they'll count the casualities and declare a winner.
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NewYorkDragons80
09-10-2004, 04:53 PM
Killing two black guys that day is a vote for bush. Killing one white guy is a vote for kerry. At the end of the day they'll count the casualities and declare a winner.
What if there's an odd number of dead black guys?
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Yerdaddy
09-10-2004, 05:15 PM
What if there's an odd number of dead black guys?
Mexicans count as 3/5 of 1 black vote.
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furie
09-10-2004, 05:39 PM
Biometrics as a possibility?
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09-10-2004, 05:46 PM
*Electronic Voting. Voting that is done electronicly!*
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