AIDS!!

[reeshy]

Where I work, one of my duties is to be an AIDS counselor...I draw blood, get the results and tell the patient how to maintain a stable life style...now, up to this point, all of the people I take care of have had AIDS for a number of years and that was no problem...Yesterday, I received the results of a 23 year old woman who thought she didn't have AIDS....well, she does....I had to call her into my office and try to tell her that she basically has a death sentence...I fumbled like a fool and she knew right off that it was bad news...she became hysterical and started to yell at me and hit me..I didn't know what to do..I just grabbed her and sat her back on her chair....she calmed down and thanked me for my help...I feel so helpless in these situations!!!!

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That is the most awful thing I have ever heard.

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[reeshy]

That is the most awful thing I have ever heard.


I know Kat,,Ifeel like I fucked up..I didn't know what to do!!!! I hate this job!!!

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[JPMNICK]

seriously that sucks. I have always had a huge fear of getting AIDS. how long did you talk to her for?

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I give you credit for doing the job you do, reeshy. I could never handle it.

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[reeshy]

About a hlaf an hour....I hooked her up with a clinic and a social worker...I was worthless for the rest of the day..this reminded me when I was a cop and had to make death notifications!!! God, how I hated that!!!!

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[Tenbatsuzen]

I know Kat,,Ifeel like I fucked up..I didn't know what to do!!!! I hate this job!!!



Then why do you do it?



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[cheezeemee]

Was she hot?

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[reeshy]

Then why do you do it?


Because maybe I feel like I'm doing some good and I like to help people...is that wrong??

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[Tenbatsuzen]

Because maybe AI feel like I'm doing some good and I like to help people...is that wrong??



I wasn't flaming, but if there's a major or large amount of a person's job that they didn't like, I'd look into a career change.

Is it possible to do what you're doing w/o the AIDS counseling?



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[cheezeemee]

Because maybe AI feel like I'm doing some good and I like to help people...is that wrong??


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Whats wrong is that AI is a little boy. Then again hes not real.

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[reeshy]

Was she hot?


I won't even dignify that with an answer!!

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[Yerdaddy]

The thing about terminal illnesses is the view on life that people who have been living with them for a long time often develop. I saw a roundtable discussion with people who were living with AIDS for a long time on Charlie Rose years ago. They were some of the most remarkable peoplel I had ever seen. I think in order to do that job, Reeshy, I'd have some contact with support groups, for yourself and for your patients. I think it might give you some ballance to your perspctive when you have to give a notification like that, where you are more or less going through the same suffering that the patient is. Just a thought.

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[reeshy]

Your right YerDaddy!!!!We have support groups for them...maybe I should attend as a health care provider.....I just felt so bad for her!!!!

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[mothershucker]

I know I am going to get killed for this, but I do not feel bad. I mean, a child with lukemia makes me REAL fucking sad. Some 23 year old who took a rotten cock in her, while not making my day, does not make me feel bad at all. She knew the risks, sorry, you lose game over. And it aint like she has 6 months to live either. Magic Johnson looks healthy as a fucking horse. His Johnson must be magic because that mother fucker got H.I.V. (the ninja) 14 years ago! I say, keep your legs shut, and when you have to accept a strange cock, tell the guy to put a rubber on.

O.K. , now you can all bash me as a heartless bastard.

I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker

[mikeyboy]

cheezeemee, that's not appropriate. When people post serious subjects in the confessional and "That's Life", that's supposed to mean no jokes or ballbusting.

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[reeshy]

I wasn't flaming, but if there's a major or large amount of a person's job that they didn't like, I'd look into a career change. Is it possible to do what you're doing w/o the AIDS counseling?


Not where I work...it''s part of the job....I just like helping people and I was just venting...sorry if it disturbed you or others!!! My apologies!!!

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[Iamnotatool]

Mikey, in cheezeboy's defense, he wasn't joking or bashing. Just stating the distorted facts as he sees them (however incorrectly).

Taking a rotten cock isn't the only way to catch AIDS, and even if she did take one stray dirty cock, and got AIDS from it, it's not a reason to not feel bad for her. Noone has sex with the intention of getting any disease, let alone the HIV.

Sure, it's a little worse when a mother passes on AIDS to her innocent child. In fact, a lot worse. But, Reeshy isn't counciling those people.

I couldn't fathom being able to look a girl in the eye and tell her she has AIDS. Reeshy, don't leave that place, they need you there.

I'm sure you do this already, but think about if there wasn't someone like you, who actually cares bout these kids. Lets say it was Cheezeeguy there, you think that girl would get any support?

Nah.


Keep it up, go to meetings or see a shrink if you don't already.

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[Mike Teacher]

I couldn't fathom being able to look a girl in the eye and tell her she has AIDS


I'll break a personal rule and get flamed for it, deservedly so; but this should be said.

You dont tell someone they have AIDS, because if you are doing the testing and getting results, you are testing for anti-bodies to the HIV Virus.

Testing Positive for HIV, and Having AIDS are two utterly, completely different things. People can have HIV for decades and show no signs of AIDS.

And it's not a Death Sentence. See above.

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[mothershucker]

Yes tool, I agree that banging is not the only way to get AIDS. I did not think of the fact that she could be an intravenous drug user. My point is, if you live a responsible life style, your odds of getting this disease go down to next to nil. I feel horrible for people who live a "clean" life and God, for what ever reason, screws em by giving them some horrible disease that they had no chance of avoiding.

I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker

[GodsFavoriteMan]

Fortunately, I've never had to give anyone the bad news regarding anything. But, I do have a few friends (one relative) living with HIV. The question I have is were you telling her she has AIDS, or HIV? I know to the person finding out for the first time it's soul crushing. But I imagine if I did have to let someone know, and they got histerical, well, I'd just take the abuse at first and allow them to vent. Then once he/she calmed, I'd let them know about the treatmens, and most importantly how effective they are. You know this as well as I do, but people with HIV can live a "normal" life for many years and can have sexual relationships.

But, yeah, it does hurt to have to empathize, that's the worst part of the job. But when you get that "thank you" it's what makes it worth it. Especially when you see people progress. That's why I love working in a rehab (not drug) hospital. Our patients are always making progress.

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[reeshy]

Tool,

I work in a mathedone clinic as an RN....27% of my patients have AIDS and 85% have Hepatitis B....I'm not a great supporter of narcotics...in fact, I hate thes...but these people need help....I was the same way when I a cop...I alwayd gave a few bucks to the down and out...now...I do it a different way...Thanks for the support!!!!!!!

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[reeshy]

I'll break a personal rule and get flamed for it, deservedly so; but this should be said. You dont tell someone they have AIDS, because if you are doing the testing and getting results, you are testing for anti-bodies to the HIV Virus. Testing Positive for HIV, and Having AIDS are two utterly, completely different things. People can have HIV for decades and show no signs of AIDS. And it's not a Death Sentence. See above.


Excuse me,,,yea you did break a rule...But anyway, I can't counsel anyone on AIDS untio 2 MD's read the results...we didn't do an anti-body test..we did a t-cell test...her's were under 90...therefore AIDS...do some research before inserting foot in mouthe!!!!

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[Iamnotatool]

Reesh, I'm down and out, you got $5 I can borrow and never pay back???????



Mike Teach, what personal rule did you break?

You're post is very true, and I didn't mean to throw HIV and AIDS in the same kind of bucket, but, rest assured, if someone told me I had HIV, I'm freakin the fuck out.

Don't tell me about it not being a death sentance, especially not at the exact time I'm hearing the news. I'd DEFINATELY be freaking out.

I know you can live with it for a while, but we all aren't Magic Johnson. We don't have his money to continue to get the best treatment. We all aren't first class professional athletes with bodies built up for years to use as a defense.

Again, I'm not saying that HIV = buhbye now.

But I also know for a fact, I'd be losing my shit if Reeshy called me in


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[Katylina]

Was she hot?


Well, it's better than asking "would you hit it?" We all know the answer to that one.

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[Iamnotatool]

I'd hit it, but I'd probably wear a bag.

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[Katylina]

You had better double bag it just to be sure.

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[reeshy]

You had better double bag it just to be sure.


TRUE...she was also diagnosed with Karposi's Sarcoma...that was the reason for the T-cell test!!!!

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[mdr55]

Do you think in the back of her mind the lady knew she may have AIDS but the fact that you actually confirmed this broke her denial of having it??

She'll be taking medication for the rest of her life.




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[TheMojoPin]

I'm gonna move this to "That's Life" since it's pretty serious. Try and remember that, folks.

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[mdr55]

I have a question, why were you the one to tell the patient that they had AIDS? Isn't that the job of the MD? When ever the doctor orders testing to be done aren't they responsible for going over the results with the patient.

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[reeshy]

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Do you think in the back of her mind the lady knew she may have AIDS but the fact that you actually confirmed this broke her denial of having it?? She'll be taking medication for the rest of her life.
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Actually ...yes.....she had lesions on her chest and abdomen for months....she was untreated since she got the infection...it wasn't until she tried to quit heroin that she was encouraged to take the tests!!!

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[reeshy]

I would appreciate it if people who don't know what they are talking about to stay out of this thread!!!!

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[Tenbatsuzen]

I would appreciate it if people who don't know what they are talking about to stay out of this thread!!!!



People are curious, chief. You call attention to yourself by creating a thread like this, and people are going to be inquisitive and question things.

Besides which, let's call a spade a spade here - a 23 year old smack junkie who probably had a habit of sharing needles got AIDS. In this day and age, she got what was coming to her.

Sorry folks. She ain't Arthur Ashe, Elizabeth Glaser or Ryan White. We live in a time and place that new infections (post-2000) are inexcusable.

The only way I feel sorry for someone who gets HIV are either through a blood transfusion or via a cheating lover who they thought they could trust. In other words, situations that they have no control over.

Harsh? Yes. But AIDS is one of the few fatal diseases in life where you have a TON of control if you contract it or not.

Besides, isn't there supposed to be some sort of patient confidentiality in the medical field?

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[mdr55]

One time we found out that one of our clients was getting prescriptions for her HIV medication filled at various drug stores and selling them.

Also we found out that another guy and the person above were also selling their ensure/sustacal.

Damn...the power of addiction.

[mdr55]

[quote]Harsh? Yes. But AIDS is one of the few fatal diseases in life where you have a TON of control if you contract it or not.
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How bout AIDS babies. What they ever do???

[Tenbatsuzen]

How bout AIDS babies. What they ever do???






The only way I feel sorry for someone who gets HIV are either through a blood transfusion or via a cheating lover who they thought they could trust. In other words, situations that they have no control over.



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[JPMNICK]

can you get high from HIV med's? or was she selling them to different patients.

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[reeshy]

Besides, isn't there supposed to be some sort of patient confidentiality in the medical field?


Did I mention her name ..or where I work..you , sir, are ignorant!!!!!


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[reeshy]

an you get high from HIV med's?


Simply...No

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[mdr55]

can you get high from HIV med's? or was she selling them to different patients.


You'll be surprised what they buy in the streets. (or in the bodega).

[mdr55]

an you get high from HIV med's?


If you could get high from HIV medication, you think an addict would sell them???

[JPMNICK]

If you could get high from HIV medication, you think an addict would sell them???


maybe if she was a coke addict and she could sell the AIDS meds and then use the money for coke

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Anybody know where I score some bone marrow? Heard it's an awesome high.



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[reeshy]

maybe if she was a coke addict and she could sell the AIDS meds and then use the money for coke


true..that's what alot of them do ...we can't control their actions after they leave the clinic!!!

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[mdr55]

[quote]
If you could get high from HIV medication, you think an addict would sell them???

maybe if she was a coke addict and she could sell the AIDS meds and then use the money for coke
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But your original question was getting high from the actually HIV medication. Like Reeshy said "NO"

[TheMojoPin]

What aren't people getting?

This forum is where people are supposed to lay off the jokes and show a little sympathy for the more "serious" issues different posters bring up her specifically.

Leave the attempts at humor and the political sermons at the door.

NOW.

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[mdr55]

maybe if she was a coke addict and she could sell the AIDS meds and then use the money for coke

true..that's what alot of them do ...we can't control their actions after they leave the clinic!!!


And even if you know this, you can't deny the person their medications. But if something goes wrong you get the blame. That sucks big time.

[reeshy]

Tenbatsuzen, I was told to leave you alone....but you are one totally fucking asshole...This forum is supposed to be about people telling their stories....go fuck yourself, you motherfucker!!!!!!

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[TheMojoPin]

I'm fucking serious now.

Next person to post some kind of insult, joke, diatribe or cutesy comment about what reeshy is venting over here is gone for a month.

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[reeshy]

Where's GirlNins comment..it was before your's , Mojo!!!!!!

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[TheMojoPin]

I got rid of all the post on this last page derailing the thread. See mine at the top? That's all that matters now.

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[reeshy]

Really!!!! ok, MEIN FUEHRER!!!

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[TheMojoPin]

Work with me here, man.

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[reeshy]

I'm trying to...but I don't like your attitude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[reeshy]

Thanks Mojo....this is probably the first time a thread was put back on !!!!!!!

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[reeshy]

BTW...the girl I ws talking about is in Harlem Hospital...we put her there today with severe respiratory distess...

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[TheMojoPin]

Thanks Mojo....this is probably the first time a thread was put back on !!!!!!!

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I just push the buttons and don't ask questions, like a good soldier does.

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[FUNKMAN]

there were many kids i played ball with from the neighborhood who got into the heavy drugs and died from Aids... good strong ballplayers

always makes me question exactly why you have a bunch of kids who live and play together and some choose a more dangerous direction in life than others...

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