What's better mp3 player or iPod

[WNEWstinks]

I'm thinking of upgrading from cds, Which is better?

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[JPMNICK]

an IPOD is an MP3 player. so i do not understand the question

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[cheezeemee]

Wait a couple of years then we'll have terrabyte ipods. You can hold every song ever made. You'll be the coolest kid on the block. Not that your not cool now. I'm sure you are but you'll be cooler and sexier with a terrabyte ipod. Till then enjoy the best of all worlds.
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[JPMNICK]

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[Tall_James]

I'll have six of those, and a half-dozen of the other.

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[wilee]

I have an Iriver IHP 140. The multicodec feature is nice (plays wma, ogg, mp3, etc) but the tuner is pretty bad. Don't know if the tuners for other Iriver products are as bad.

Never got into the Ipod. You're locked into AAC and MP3. Most of my music is ripped to Ogg.

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[badorties]

wow, tough crowd ...

i've done some research and these two seem ideal ... the first one holds a 1/4 gig and the second holds 20 gigs (they also have a 40 gig) ...

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[JohnnyCash]

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[WNEWstinks]

They may do the same thing; but do they both hold the same amount of songs??no, One is better then the other, thing for a minute before you make you "(not so)witty remarks".

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This message was edited by WNEWstinks on 9-29-04 @ 12:28 PM

[badorties]

Asses, they may do the same thing; but do they both hold the same amount of songs??no, One is better then the other, thing for a minute before you make you "(not so)witty remarks".


hmm ...

you can get a non-ipod player that holds 10 to 40 gigs ...

i-pod is just a very popular name brand for mp3 players ...


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[Tall_James]

One is better then the other, thing for a minute before you make you "(not so)witty remarks".


You still don't get it. AN IPOD IS AN MP3 PLAYER!!!! And "thing" for a minute about spelling before you type out a remark.

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[jeffdwright2001]

They may do the same thing; but do they both hold the same amount of songs??no, One is better then the other, thing for a minute before you make you "(not so)witty remarks".


Well now I'm confused. If you already know that one is better than the other, what do you need us for?

Besides, not every Ipod holds the same amount of songs - they have different sized hard drives.

Just like they have different sized "other brand" MP3 players.

There's a thread on Ipod if you want to search for it which should give you all the boards thoughts on the product (at least those that felt like commenting on it).



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[jeffdwright2001]

BTW - how is an MP3 player and upgrade of a cd?



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[JPMNICK]

because the music quality is worse

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[badorties]

BTW - how is an MP3 player and upgrade of a cd?



music cd = 20 songs ... mp3 cd = 200 ... mp3 hard drive = thousands of songs ...

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[Hoojibs]

To reiterate an IPOD IS AN MP3 PLAYER.

Ipods have them from 4GB to 40 GB.

Iriver makes up to 40 GB.

Nomad also makes them up to 60GB I believe.

Use www.cnet.com and give reviews on all of them.
Use www.buy.com and you might find them for cheaper there.

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[jeffdwright2001]

BTW - how is an MP3 player and upgrade of a cd?

music cd = 20 songs ... mp3 cd = 200 ... mp3 hard drive = thousands of songs ...


I'll give you that it's more portable, but the quality isn't better.

Portability isn't necessarily an upgrade. Laptops are nice, but you still go to a desktop PC when you want more power/speed. In fact, laptops are still limited when it comes to the ability to find a decent balance between the processor and actual response speed.

When I think upgrade I think 8 track to cassette to CD.

Besides, a lot of people who own MP3 players still buy/obtain CD's from which to rip the music.



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[Mike Teacher]

The MP3 algoritm essentially strips the music of a lot of frequencies, and screws up transients. If you want to listen to music encoded at 128 kb/sec go for it, for me, and yep, its sounds elitist, but 128 = unlistenable.

256 sounds OK, but the Lossey bits are, well, lost.

Someone said you can get all the new Brian Wilson songs online. Well, if its at 128, then saying skip the CD is fine, but you're gonna miss a lot of what was laid down on good old analog tape, which has a bit rate of God knows how many Megs, not Kilos, per second.

I think one second of uncompressed .wav = 1.4 - 1.6 MB. each second. That's gonna eat up a lot of memory. So for some, an iPod is nice, I will be listening to the CD on a portable CD player and a good pair of headphones, which is yet another issue.

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[badorties]

i thought CDs were already an inferior product ... with purists clammering for vinyl and wax ...

i listen to music at least three hours a day, everyday for the last twenty years, and for the life of me, i can't tell the difference between cd/record/casette/mp3/wav/ogg (apart from quality of the sources: scratches shitty output) ...


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This message was edited by Reefdweller on 9-29-04 @ 2:11 PM

[TheRealEddie]

The MP3 algoritm essentially strips the music of a lot of frequencies, and screws up transients. If you want to listen to music encoded at 128 kb/sec go for it, for me, and yep, its sounds elitist, but 128 = unlistenable.

256 sounds OK, but the Lossey bits are, well, lost.


Hehe, I guess I'm on of the lucky ones. 128 kb/sec sounds great to me. Apparently the compression algorithm matches the freq content with "typical" human hearing characteristics, removing the "less" important freq.



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[Hottub]

i thought CDs were already an inferior product ... with purists clammering for vinyl and wax ... listen to music at least three hours a day, everyday for the last twenty years, and for the life of me, i can't tell the difference between cd/record/casette/mp3/wav/ogg (apart from quality of the sources: scratches shitty output) ...




Wow, this brings me back to when I was a member of the New York Audiophile Society (Almost 10 years ago) This debate was raging!
If I can collect my thoughts and pull out my old issues of the "Audiophile Voice" (of which I was a staff writer) I may start a new thread.


Cd vs Vinyl --- God the thosands of dollars people poured into there systems. Fucking pondorous!!

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[JustJon]

I feel that mp3, ogg, cd, vinyl, et al. are all too lossy. I just have a lave band follow me around.

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[Tall_James]

Should he go out with a 13 year old, or a minor?

Brilliant!

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[WNEWstinks]

Should he go out with a 13 year old, or a minor?

Brilliant!



She is 14+. and way better looking then any beast you've gone out with. Envy me all you want, but envy will get you nowhere.

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[jeffdwright2001]

She is 14+. and way better looking then any beast you've gone out with. Envy me all you want, but envy will get you nowhere.

I'm sure the judge will take her hotness into consideration at your sentencing.

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[Doctor Manhattan]

I have the 40GB iPod, sounds great (most of my music is 128K acc files, the apple default)

The only bad thing is it's sometimes hard to navigate 5500 songs (Most of my collection, I still have a few dozen CD's to rip, I'll have lots of extra space)

I actually listen to Ron and Fez on it more than Music.

I hear wonderful things about iRiver's H120. not as "pretty" but its functionality is good.

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[Reephdweller]

I actually listen to Ron and Fez on it more than Music.


Same here. I have a 15 gig iPod and it seems like its more than enough space for me.



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[wilee]

I hear wonderful things about iRiver's H120. not as "pretty" but its functionality is good.
I have the IHP 140, which is basically the 40GB version of the 120. The player is great (the only things about it that I don't like is that you can only queue one song in advance, and if you use playlists, it won't play them randomly). It can act as a hard drive, a voice recorder (with built-in or external mic) and has optical input and output, plus a host of other features that you can find out on their website.

It won't play music in AAC format, though, so if most of your music is already ripped to AAC, you'd have to convert it. It does cover pretty much all other codecs- Ogg, WAV, MP3, WMA, ASF. I tend to rip mine to VBR Ogg. Very good reproduction if you use the right headphones (digital monitors).

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This message was edited by SKW on 9-30-04 @ 2:18 PM

[Doctor Manhattan]

i thought CDs were already an inferior product ... with purists clammering for vinyl and wax ..


Did DVDaudio and SACD make those people happy?

Spent $26.15 for a cheap piece of plastic that everyone else got for free.

What does this mean?

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[jeffdwright2001]

Spent $26.15 for a cheap piece of plastic that everyone else got for free.

What does this mean?
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That's how much he spent on his Big Ass Card on the Ebay.



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[Mike Teacher]

Hehe, I guess I'm on of the lucky ones. 128 kb/sec sounds great to me. Apparently the compression algorithm matches the freq content with "typical" human hearing characteristics, removing the "less" important freq.


Yer absolutely correct, thats exactly what is taken away, and when I re-read my post I sound like some fucking music snob.

A Good Song wins over a Bad Recording. Not saying MP3 is bad. Its wonderful. Changed music; a 14:1 compression with that little actual loss in quality? That's amazing.

So many kick ass Albums have what some might call Shitty production but the album are still amazing despite, and maybe Because of, said Bad production.

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And in parody songs, I remember listening to Howard when he had Parody Song contests, and the winner, or many great ones were often some guy literally yelling into some $20 tape recorder, and it kicked ass over some other entry that was flawlessly produced, but Sucked Ass.

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