Ladies and Gentlemen. . . This is Superman [Archive]

FMJeff

10-19-2004, 10:07 AM

Well yes and no.

X-Men did relatively well with an unknown, Hugh Jackman.
Spiderman did well with little well known Tobey Macguire.

They chose Eric Bana as the Hulk.
Even Christian Bale is not really an A list actor.

A movie like Superman doesn't need a famous name to put asses in the seats. It's well known
enough.

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yeah but that doesn't change the fact that he will be the most effeminate looking superman ever...

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GodsFavoriteMan

10-19-2004, 10:13 AM

http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1010/47367.1010.A.jpg

I dunno. . .everyone has a bad photo.
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Furtherman

10-19-2004, 10:34 AM

Burt Reynolds. Superman. The movie would make a billion dollars.

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SpicyMcHaggis

10-19-2004, 01:18 PM

Look to the right idiot, it's Christopher Reeve with a gay hair cut. He didn't mean Reynolds, although Turd Furgeson in the blue and red would be a site to see.

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10-19-2004, 01:21 PM

even in that pink suit and blond dye job he still's more manly looking than that guy...they just dont even compare...

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Furtherman

10-19-2004, 01:25 PM

Look to the right idiot, it's Christopher Reeve with a gay hair cut.

OH REALLY?! Ahh jeeze I really screwed up on that one! And here the whole time I thought this was a Smokey And The Bandit thread!! Wow, golly gee, thanks for pointing that out to me. I can't believe I embarrassed myself like that. Wooo! I gotta tell ya, there are just some days, ya know? Some days..... I really wish I finished 2nd grade. Maybe I would be no slow. I still jump at the sound when I hear one of those horseless carriage AAAOOOOGA! AAOOOGA! I should just stay off this abacus thing. Nothin' but trouble.

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angrymissy

10-19-2004, 04:02 PM

OMG this guy was on undressed

undressed was the coolest!

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10-19-2004, 07:38 PM

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Better? Jeez.

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CaptClown

10-19-2004, 07:50 PM

Are we going to learn Superman and Jimmy Olsen are more than just "friends"?

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Ken

10-19-2004, 08:02 PM

Worst Superman ever.

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10-19-2004, 10:52 PM

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Better? Jeez.

Actually I think that just made it worse. 50,000 times worse to be exact.

grlNIN

10-19-2004, 11:10 PM

OH REALLY?! Ahh jeeze I really screwed up on that one! And here the whole time I thought this was a Smokey And The Bandit thread!! Wow, golly gee, thanks for pointing that out to me. I can't believe I embarrassed myself like that. Wooo! I gotta tell ya, there are just some days, ya know? Some days..... I really wish I finished 2nd grade. Maybe I would be no slow. I still jump at the sound when I hear one of those horseless carriage AAAOOOOGA! AAOOOGA! I should just stay off this abacus thing. Nothin' but trouble.

Ahahhahahaah.

They shoulda just took the kid from Smallville, he hasn't been in any movies really and he already fucking plays him on TV.

 
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10-20-2004, 04:15 AM

They shoulda just took the kid from Smallville, he hasn't been in any movies really and he already fucking plays him on TV.

They probably want to avoid making this look like a TV movie. Like when that TV Highlander Guy was in a Highlander Film (but they sucked after #1 anyway, so It really didn't matter too much)

It would be nice for a guy who plays Superman to actually get to wear a Superman Costume and Fly.

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Hoojibs

10-20-2004, 05:07 AM

Singer has also confirmed this according to aintitcool.

He also goes on to say that he wanted Christopher Reeve to do a cameo.

He also wants to use John Williams.

He also want to do it that Superman has been gone for a few years and now is back.

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10-20-2004, 10:05 AM

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10-20-2004, 10:12 AM

The second I saw the picture i thought of Clark Kent. He looks more like Clark then the guy in Smallville.

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10-20-2004, 10:36 AM

They shoulda just took the kid from Smallville, he hasn't been in any movies really and he already fucking plays him on TV.

That's what I've been thinking all along - while I never seek out SMALLVILLE, whenever I catch it, it seems good enough, and that they are doing some fun stuff. Just finish the series off in a few seasons, and spin off that guy.

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blakjeezis

10-20-2004, 10:38 AM

He also goes on to say that he wanted Christopher Reeve to do a cameo.

That's probably not gonna happen.

And to expand on the John Williams and Superman gone for a while themes: Singer wants to use the same opening music as the Donner films. In fact, he's using the first 2 movies as the history for this one. Apparently Krypton and the Fortress of Solitude will be exactly the same design as before.

Writer Dan Harris said, "He'll begin in his late 20s. He lost his powers in 'Superman 2' and now he has the powers back. But something has happened because he's been away for a long time...We're taking off from the first two Superman films with Christopher Reeve. We use his history and then move on with big twists and great special effects. We're not going to do the origin story again. Our view is if you're over 25 years old, then you've seen the Reeve films and that's Superman to you. If you're under 25, then you watch TV's 'Smallville,' and that's Superman to you".

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10-20-2004, 10:51 AM

jeffdwright2001

10-20-2004, 10:54 AM

The problem with making him in his late 20's is that he left home at 18 and stayed in the FOS (roaming space and time) for approx 12 years (I forget what his father said) and aged him to 30.

That's really only about 1 and 1/2 years in Superdog years.

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JustJon

10-20-2004, 11:49 AM

Singer has also confirmed this according to aintitcool.

He also goes on to say that he wanted Christopher Reeve to do a cameo.

He also wants to use John Williams.

He also want to do it that Superman has been gone for a few years and now is back.
Singer wanted Reeve to do a cameo WALKING. They still are planning to cg him into the movie for a cameo.

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mercury29

10-21-2004, 01:37 PM

They shoulda just took the kid from Smallville, he hasn't been in any movies really and he already fucking plays him on TV.
That "kid" who's almost 28?
Who cares ? They'll probably ruin it anyway. These studios can't stop ruining movies.

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10-21-2004, 05:57 PM

Whos this Fag?

Oh and Jeff thats the gayest picture Ive ever seen

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01-13-2005, 02:12 PM

I think that he's gonna be good. I mean, it kind of seems out of place now to cast this guy and still have the Smallville show running.

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badorties

01-31-2005, 05:04 PM

here's jimmy olsen ...

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Hottub

01-31-2005, 05:09 PM

Can this thing get any gayer??!!

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01-31-2005, 05:44 PM

They cast Cyclops from the X-Men movies in it. Also, Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor.

Kevin Spacey as.....Lex......Luthor...........?

 
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JustJon

02-01-2005, 10:31 AM

here's jimmy olsen ...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:zjK6IR_bHFQJ:bangitout.com/tribeca2004/chris-klien.jpg

Wrong. Chris Klein isn't Jimmy Olsen. Sam Huntington is. Sam was the one who played the Chris Klein role in Not Another Teen Movie.

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badorties

02-01-2005, 11:45 AM

wow, i need to brush up on my reading comprehension ...

... my bad

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grlNIN

02-01-2005, 12:37 PM

Wrong. Chris Klein isn't Jimmy Olsen. Sam Huntington is. Sam was the one who played the Chris Klein role in Not Another Teen Movie

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booster11373

02-09-2005, 10:26 AM

Latest from the rumour mill

Famke Janssen's meeting with director Bryan Singer down under was for Superman Returns, and she has snagged the role of Lora, the birth mother of The Man Of Steel, while Daniel Day-Lewis has gotten the role of his birth father, Jor-El.

As for the other villians, Jude Law has finally signed on as General Zod, and Kevin Bacon (Mystic River, Apollo 13) has signed as John Corbin.

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JustJon

02-09-2005, 10:29 AM

And the dude who played Kumar in Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle has a role as Luthor's henchman.

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badorties

04-05-2005, 06:43 AM

MrPink

04-05-2005, 08:39 AM

Singer wanted Reeve to do a cameo WALKING. They still are planning to cg him into the movie for a cameo.holy shit! that is the single dumbest thing i have heard all day!

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04-05-2005, 10:24 AM

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HelghastElite

04-05-2005, 05:06 PM

quote:<hr color="cococo" align="left">Can this thing get any gayer??!!

Well, this IS Bryan Singer we're talking about.

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badorties

04-16-2005, 05:51 AM

new pix of clark and lois ...<img height="288" src="http://www.aintitcool.com/images/sr-clarkkent1.jpg" width="352" border="0" /><img height="575" src="http://www.aintitcool.com/images/sr-loislane.jpg" width="350" border="0" />

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Tenbatsuzen

04-16-2005, 06:15 AM

quote:  new pix of clark and lois ...<img height="288" src="http://www.aintitcool.com/images/sr-clarkkent1.jpg" width="352" border="0" />  He looks like a fucking pedophile.

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Tenbatsuzen

04-16-2005, 06:21 AM

Now I'm just losing my shit.  THat pic of Routh looks like they're doing the dorky Kent, which is horrible.  The clothes look STRAIGHT out of the first superman movies, which look HORRIBLY dated now.The best live-action Kent ever was Dean Cain.

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Doctor Manhattan

04-18-2005, 08:57 AM

quote:<hr color="cococo" align="left">Now I'm just losing my shit. THat pic of Routh looks like they're doing the dorky Kent, which is horrible. The clothes look STRAIGHT out of the first superman movies, which look HORRIBLY dated now.

<hr color="cococo" align="left"> I thought Clark Kent was supposed to be Dorky/Nerdy/Clumsy (that was his disquise) Did they do a "Gangsta Kent" or "Jock Kent" before?

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TheMojoPin

04-18-2005, 09:37 AM

A non-dorky Kent makes zero sense.Tenbats is retarded.

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JustJon

04-18-2005, 10:43 AM

This movie is a kinda sequel to Supermans 1 and 2.  Of course
they're going to try to give him a similar look.  I think he
really captured the look of Christopher Reeves.  And Kate looks
nicey nice as Lois. And when is Clark not dorky?  That's the whole point of the character.  It's the dichotomy of Clark and Superman. 


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Doctor Manhattan

04-18-2005, 11:39 AM

heh, you said dich.

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04-18-2005, 05:02 PM

quote:heh, you said dich.

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04-22-2005, 06:02 AM

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04-22-2005, 06:19 AM

<img height="564" src="http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/supermanreturnsfirstlooksma.jpg" width="400" border="0" />doesnt look bad, the S sheild on the chest looks a little to small and i dont like the belt buckle at all, but he looks good as the Man

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badorties

04-22-2005, 06:57 AM

that littlr red x looks nothing like it did in the comics ...

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04-22-2005, 07:21 AM

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/badorties/those%20other%20sigs/supe.jpg" border="0" />he really doesn't look that super to me ...

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GodsFavoriteMan

04-22-2005, 07:30 AM

I'm not too impressed by the picture, but they went with a stupid camera angle.  His face has a goofy expression.  But, I was impressed with the Clark picture, so I'll reserve judgement until the trailer.

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04-22-2005, 08:47 AM

I hope it looks better on-screen.  I'm surious why the costume
doesn't show any muscle definition.  Then again, I would have
released a better picture, like one of the iconic images of Superman. 

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Doctor Manhattan

04-22-2005, 08:50 AM

I see someone watched the Making of Spiderman features on the DVDs.They took the idea of having a fabic with some kind of subtle pattern on it and having raised logos glued onto the suit. And it looks small to me as well, Is the Red part of the S supposed to be Carbon Fiber or something?The boots that Chris Reeve wore were better, and maybe it's just that one picture, but the red isn't very red anymore...<img height="348" src="http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/J/K/HBJKAvVaiqM_Pxgen_r_Ax348.jpg" width="278" border="0" />I wish I could find a better full lenght picture.I complained about the X-Men costumes when I first saw them, later on I realized that it's hard to re-create comix book images in real life, but Christopher Reeve was able to do it. This one falls a little short but could still work.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/wwjbd.jpg" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"> "We're putting the band back together."</a>

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Cybersoldier

04-22-2005, 09:17 AM

Okay slight improvement on the costume, the boots not too trilled but good to see the costume remain fairly close to the previous supersuits<img src="http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/supersuit2.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://publish.hometown.aol.com/cybersoldiernyc/myhomepage/cs_sig.jpg?mtbrand=AOL_US" border="0" /> Thanks for the sig monsterone

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Doctor Manhattan

04-22-2005, 09:28 AM

Why have a S on the belt right below the big S on the chest, in the same stlye?

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04-29-2005, 04:43 AM

<a href="http://supermanreturnsmovie.50megs.com/">New Superman Footage</a>

Got this on Aint't it Cool News.

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badorties

04-29-2005, 06:25 AM

pa kent ...<img src="http://www.boom.co.yu/phpnuke/images/uploadimages/007.jpg" border="0" />.

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04-29-2005, 06:52 AM

<img height="213" src="http://www.terryshoemaker.com/files/Batman__Superman__Spidey.jpg" width="312" border="0" />I found a story board image from a scene late in the film...

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05-05-2005, 04:03 PM

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Doctor Manhattan

06-28-2005, 05:54 AM

I didn't see it mentioned before but <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/fullcredits" target="_blank">IMDB lists Kevin Spackey as Lex Luthor</a>. HAs this been confirmed?

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Tenbatsuzen

06-28-2005, 05:42 PM

quote: I didn't see it mentioned before but <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/fullcredits" target="_blank">IMDB lists Kevin Spackey as Lex Luthor</a>. HAs this been confirmed?<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"></a> Gayest Luthor ever.

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badorties

09-08-2005, 06:16 AM

still not looking so super ...<a href="http://latinoreview.com/films_2006/wb/superman/sr5.html" target="_self"><img height="359" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/badorties/those%20other%20sigs/204.jpg" width="514" border="0" /></a>.<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=badorties" border="0" /> 

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Doctor Manhattan

09-08-2005, 06:24 AM

Why did they make the S smaller? Why did they change the colors? The spiderman suit added the 3D element but kept the classic look. They should have done that with Superman.But I guess you can never really get it right, a Comic Book look doesn't always work when it comes to Superhero Costumes. The classic Blue and Grey Batman suit would look silly in a live action movie. They even changed it in the comic books! (They changed from Blue and Grey to Grey and Black)

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09-08-2005, 06:52 AM

quote: Gayest Luthor ever.  <img height="255" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/badorties/those%20other%20sigs/202.jpg" width="200" border="0" /> clark kent looks more like a student at rushmore academy<a href="http://latinoreview.com/films_2006/wb/superman/sr4.html" target="_self"><img height="151" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/badorties/those%20other%20sigs/201.jpg" width="225" border="0" /></a><img height="150" src="http://www.kinoweb.de/film2001/Rushmore/pix/rm25.jpg" width="226" border="0" /><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=badorties" border="0" /> 

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Doctor Manhattan

09-08-2005, 07:08 AM

I don't think <a href="http://latinoreview.com/">http://latinoreview.com</a> supports hotlinking. I see red Xs until I go to the url for the pics manually.

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Gmann

09-08-2005, 07:11 AM

Am I the only one who doesn't find Kate Bosworth hot ?IMO.....an awful choice to play Lois Lane.

badorties

09-08-2005, 07:26 AM

I don't think <a href="http://latinoreview.com/">http://latinoreview.com</a> supports hotlinking. I see red Xs until I go to the url for the pics manually. my bad, they should be working now ...

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DarkHippie

09-08-2005, 07:39 AM

Supes looks a big scrawny there

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Doctor Manhattan

09-08-2005, 07:42 AM

quote: Am I the only one who doesn't find Kate Bosworth hot ? IMO.....an awful choice to play Lois Lane.  <img src="http://s5.imagesubmit.com/kate-bosworth.jpg" border="0" />Yeah, she's a pig.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/rolleyes.gif" border="0" />But seriously, I don't see why they picked her to play Lois 

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fezident

09-08-2005, 08:04 AM

Is it me, or is her crotch abnormally wide in that photo."Lots o' space in this mall."

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Gmann

09-08-2005, 03:02 PM

I think who ever is picking the female leads for these DC movies never read the comics.First Katie Holmes in Batman,.....now this skinny chick ? AWFUL.  By the way....that pic just makes me wanna punch her in the stomach to see if my hand will hurt.

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cougarjake13

09-09-2005, 01:43 PM

her crotch bulge looks bigger then her tits

badorties

09-09-2005, 02:08 PM

Is it me, or is her crotch abnormally wide in that photo.her crotch bulge looks bigger then her titspicky and a bit gay ... i think it's a more of a modest bikini bottom than an abnormal crotchher crotch looks lovely in these ....<img height="250" src="http://www.celebstation.org/actresses/kate_bosworth/Kate_Bosworth-96.jpg" width="222" border="0" /><img height="303" src="http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Kate_Bosworth/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=14pg0eg7s/EXP=1126389828/*-http%3A//us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/blue_crush/_group_photos/kate_bosworth12.jpg" width="400" border="0" />

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cougarjake13

09-09-2005, 06:48 PM

thats much better

MrPink

09-09-2005, 11:26 PM

Looks like another unoriginal piece of shit like all the other comic book movies (except for Sin City).  

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booster11373

10-01-2005, 04:32 PM

<img height="440" src="http://supermanreturns.warnerbros.com/assets/images/teaser/s.jpg" width="569" border="0" /> The movie site has gone live nothing on it yet thoughJUST SAY NO.....to pimping

This message was edited by booster11373 on 10-1-05 @ 8:34 PM

Tenbatsuzen

10-01-2005, 06:38 PM

quote:Looks like another unoriginal piece of shit like all the other comic book movies (except for Sin City). 
 Batman Begins?  Spider-Man and Spider-Man II? X2? Hellboy? Am I missing something? 

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fezident

10-01-2005, 06:48 PM

The first BLADE movie is my all time favorite comicbook movie.  That one never gets any love but, it's a really strong movie.  I also think BOTH Spiderman movies completely and totally suck.  Guess I'm alone on that one too.<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/tucker71/fezident.jpg" border="0" /> "Jam out with your clam out"

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HBox

10-01-2005, 06:58 PM

I'll take a knife to the eye of anyone trashing Batman Begins. 

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TheMojoPin

10-01-2005, 08:43 PM

How can a Superman movie be "unoriginal?"  He IS the original.

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cougarjake13

10-03-2005, 01:34 PM

quote: I'll take a knife to the eye of anyone trashing Batman Begins. <img src="http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7449/georgesig0mm.jpg" border="0" /> This message was edited by HBox on 10-1-05 @ 10:58 PM Batman Begins was great and thankfully made me forgot the horriblekilmer and clooney versionsI didnt really like the 2 spidermansanxiously waiting to see the new superman i hope it doesnt disappointany dates yet on when it might come out????

WhiteHonkyDevil

10-04-2005, 09:28 AM

quote: The first BLADE movie is my all time favorite comicbook movie. That one never gets any love but, it's a really strong movie. I also think BOTH Spiderman movies completely and totally suck. Guess I'm alone on that one too.I'm with you one the Blade love, but, I actually liked the Spiderman movies.  As
for the new Superman.....I really wish they could get Hackman for Lex
Luthor, I mean, granted, he's a hell of a lot older, but wasn't he just
FUN in the Superman series? I think I'm alone in my belief that Kevin Spacey is going to be a great Luthor, though. 

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Doctor Manhattan

11-04-2005, 08:09 AM

<a href="http://www.sbstudios.f2s.com/sy/sr_teaser.mov" target="_blank">Teaser Trailer</a> not real but still has some cool footage from the real movie.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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EliSnow

11-04-2005, 09:12 AM

quote As for the new Superman.....I really wish they could get Hackman for Lex Luthor, I mean, granted, he's a hell of a lot older, but wasn't he just FUN in the Superman series? I think I'm alone in my belief that Kevin Spacey is going to be a great Luthor, though.  Truthfully, I thought Hackman was only okay as Luthor because scenes with essentially played for laughs, in all of the movies.  This may be because of the company he kept.  The fact that his principal henchman was Otis (or Jon Cryer in the last movie) sucked any credibility he had as Superman's principal enemy.  Ultimately, the schlock comedy present in both Superman I and II lowered both movies in my eyes.  Superman was a perfect superhero movie up and until the last act, with the comedy underlying the Luthor scenes and the turning the world backwards = turning back time angle.  I think Spacey would be an excellent Luthor, but it depends upon how Singer wants to play him.  If he sticks with Donnor's blueprint for Luthor, then I fear I won't like Luthor (and possibly the movie).  

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booster11373

11-17-2005, 07:16 PM

the teaser trailer is up on the movie site<a href="http://supermanreturns.warnerbros.com/trailer.html" target="_self">http://supermanreturns.warnerbros.com/trailer.html</a>

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HBox

11-17-2005, 07:22 PM

The parts in the city had a Tim Burton's Batman feel, gothic but not as dark. Which is good, but a step backwards IMO. I never really liked Superman anyway. But that is a pretty decent trailer, they showed more than usual without giving anything away. 

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Tenbatsuzen

11-17-2005, 07:26 PM

I'm sorry.  I saw the trailer.  I'm trying to keep an open
mind.  Superman looks like a gay Chris Noth.  Make it go away. I really want to like this movie, but... I can't.  

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TheMojoPin

11-17-2005, 08:32 PM

This movie looks great...it makes me want to see a Superman film, which shocks me, since I usually can't be fucked to give a damn about Superman.Matty's an idiot.  Chris Noth already looks gay, 'tard.

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booster11373

11-18-2005, 05:34 AM

One of the things that make me worry about this movie is the fact that they are tying it to the to the Richard Donner films, not that they were bad films for the time but Superman has changed since then more Human less Krypton. This movie should be more Batman Begins then a continuation of those movies 

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TheMojoPin

11-18-2005, 07:46 AM

Those two first Superman movies kicks some serious ass, and outside of the incredibly dated special effects, still hold up as two of the best, if not THE best, comic book films of all time.  I have no problem with them setting this film further down the storyline of those films, especially since they're completely ignoring 3 and 4 like they never existed.

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XMRonFez

11-21-2005, 06:26 AM

I finally saw the mini trailer during Smallville and I cannot wait. It just seems a little misleading. The original music with Marlon Brando's voice over gave me goose bumbs, but will it actually be in the film? Superman himself does look a little "gay", but I can get past that. He does not seem bad. I only wish Tom Welling was Superman. Smallville seems to be one of the only shows that I watch that consistantly gets better every season. I'm just waiting for a young Wonder Woman or Green Lantern to stop by The Kent Farm to help fill out the J.L.A appearances.   

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EliSnow

11-21-2005, 07:06 AM

quote: Those two first Superman movies kicks some serious ass, and outside of the incredibly dated special effects, still hold up as two of the best, if not THE best, comic book films of all time.  I may be in the minority here, but I think that the first 3/4 of Superman was the best 3/4 of a comic book movie ever, but the last 1/4 was almost as bad as anything in Superman 3.  I really, really dislike how Luthor was portrayed (no way Lex Luthor has an idiot like Otis helping him), and I absolutely hated the turning back the earth = turning back time bit.  They could have easily had Superman go back in time some other way (pulling a "Star Trek" by going really fast and using the sun's gravitational pull to go even faster), but to suggest that the rotation of the earth is what makes time move forward is just horrendous science, even by comic book standards).  As for Superman II, again, parts of it were phenomonal, such as the action scenes with the Kryptonoian Trio, but other parts were really bad.  I hated all of the "crowd" scenes involved, and all the attempts at humor.  The best example of this dichotomy is the fight between Zod and Co. and Superman in Metropolis.   This scene is great in many ways, because it really had the first superhero v. supervillain fight in cinema history.   And althought the F/X are dated now, it was really, really good.  However, the scene is virtually spoiled for me by the crowd reactions to the fight, most of which is played for humor.   From the Planet co-worker showing virtual glee at Superman getting beat to the guy on roller skates to the "My hair" - "Your hair, what about my hair" comment to other moments.  I also hated how Luthor was used in this movie.  In many ways, he became Zod's Otis and was only there for comic relief, and to be played the patsy.  Plus, let's not forget the Saran Wrap Superman shield, and the hologram Supermans at the Fortress of Solitude.The problem I think is that they thought they needed some humor or camp for these scenes, because they couldn't see a comic book movie being played without camp.  After all, this was before Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns, when if you thought comic book, you thought the 60's Batman TV series.  So they didn't think they could play it straight up like what was done in Batman Begins.  So, while I don't have a problem with Superman Returns being part of the continuity of the first two films, I'm hoping it doesn't have the same blueprint with regards to the type of humor that was involved with both.    

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TheMojoPin

11-21-2005, 09:08 AM

Well, the real problem is that between the 1st and 2nd films, there's a great film that's been butchered.  Richard Donner shot the first film and most of the 2nd one all at once, with the idea of a possible 3 hr. LOTR-esque Superman epic, but they ended up getting pulled apart and re-edited with new scenes shot by a different director and tacked on.  Everything with Hackman was shot under Donner...he never was filmed for anything else in the 2nd after the 1st film.  And dude, that IS Luthor.  If anything, I only wanted him to be more of a mad scientist, but that's it.  "Yuppie scum/Kingpin ripoff" Luthor of the last 20 years in the comics sucks HARD.  Thank the Lord Grant Morrison is writing with the classic crazy scientist Lex in his new All-Star Superman series.

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EliSnow

11-21-2005, 11:08 AM

quote: And dude, that IS Luthor.  If anything, I only wanted him to be more of a mad scientist, but that's it.  "Yuppie scum/Kingpin ripoff" Luthor of the last 20 years in the comics sucks HARD.  Thank the Lord Grant Morrison is writing with the classic crazy scientist Lex in his new All-Star Superman series. I have no problem that the Luthor in the Superman movies being the Mad Scientist Luthor, as opposed to CEO Luthor.  My problem is the tone of the character.  He could have been either and the tone was still of because the tone of the character was a lot of camp/humor that didn't fit the character.  I can't see even the mad scientist Luthor having his assistant be Otis.  If he's that brilliant, there is no way he'd trust Otis to help him carry out his plans. He also wouldn't trust Tessmacher in the least once he realized that her mother lived in Hackensack.   And in II, he was played for humor even more.  

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TheMojoPin

11-21-2005, 11:12 AM

I'm biased because it's Hackman and in my eyes he can do no wrong.I'll give you having the bumbling henchpeople in the first one made no sense, but I still love how Luthor is in the second one.  Talking smack to Zod, playing all the sides off of each other, doublecrossing and triplecrossing everyone...if he was just making some kind of kryptonite powered robot in the middle of it, it would have been perfect.And some of the jokes fall flat, but what's wrong with some humor?  It's Superman...it's supposed to be more "bright."  Leave the grim 'n' gritty to Batman.

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EliSnow

11-21-2005, 11:32 AM

quote: I'll give you having the bumbling henchpeople in the first one made no sense, but I still love how Luthor is in the second one.  Talking smack to Zod, playing all the sides off of each other, doublecrossing and triplecrossing everyone...if he was just making some kind of kryptonite powered robot in the middle of it, it would have been perfect.And some of the jokes fall flat, but what's wrong with some humor?  It's Superman...it's supposed to be more "bright."  Leave the grim 'n' gritty to Batman.I disagree about II.  Did he ever double-cross Zod?  He pretty much did everything Zod wanted, but only appeared to side with Superman when Zod basically told him that he got everything out of Luthor that he wanted and then he was going to kill him.  The way Luthor dealt with Zod just smacked of desperation more than planned manipulation or doublercrossing.  You're right, the comics Luthor would have manipulated both sides and then emerged with a Kryptonite powered robot that would have threated both parties, and would appear to give him the upper hand over both.  However, in this movie, he was never really a threat to either Zod or Superman.As for humor, I have no problem with having humor in the movie.  But I don't liked forced humor at the price of characterization, and the camp humor that the movie had.  Just as a comparison, the Luthor in All-Star Superman you mentioned.  There is a little bit of humor to the character, but it's more of a humor-in-how-evil-he-is, as opposed to a type of humor featured in the movies. Also, you're right that Superman should be lighter and brighter than Batman, but much of the brightless is in the character of Superman.  His enemies can be dark, and shouldn't be seen as less of a threat or evil than Batmans.  Luthor is the top villain of the DCU who should be a threat to the top hero - Superman.   Finally, I don't blame Hackman for the tone of the character in the movies.  The tone was set by the script, so it's not like he played it wrong.  It was just wrong from conception.  <img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/ambros~1.jpg" border="0" />

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Tenbatsuzen

05-02-2006, 02:59 PM

New trailer's out. Routh is a LOT less gay... but Spacey MORE than makes up for it!

booster11373

05-02-2006, 03:01 PM

where? link please

Tenbatsuzen

05-02-2006, 03:03 PM

booster11373 wrote: where? link please   <a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/large.html" target="_self">You Will Believe That a Homo Can Fly </a>

booster11373

05-02-2006, 03:06 PM

Looks better then i thought it would, still pretty hyped to see it

Sheeplovr

05-03-2006, 04:25 AM

<a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/" target="_blank">Superman Returns Trailer</a>

badorties

05-03-2006, 04:55 AM

not bad ... i'm psyched to see it

booster11373

05-03-2006, 05:18 AM

How much do you want to bet that they imply that Lois' kid is Superman's in some way?. Which I really hope they don't do. The fact that this is supposed to be Superman 3 really makes me nervous. I wish they just did a relaunch using John Byrne's Man of Steel as the template instead of the whole Superman has been gone for awhile angle. That being said I really cant wait to see this now, the shuttle rescue scene is supposed to be amazing (not the plane in the trailer)

Sheeplovr

05-03-2006, 06:52 AM

what im confused about is if superman goes off to find whats left of
krypton how does he get back the red sun would neutralize his powers

Doctor Manhattan

05-03-2006, 06:57 AM

Everything looks great except for Superman's costume, Clark Kent's "disguise" and Superman's face.I'm sure there is someone who looks more like Christopher Reeve/Superman. I know he wasn't the original superman, but he owned that role and changed the way we look at that character. He was Superman!

Furtherman

05-18-2006, 01:35 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Routh is a LOT less gay... but Spacey MORE than makes up for it!So does this poster...<img height="445" src="http://www.perezhilton.com/topics/upload/2006/05/superman-returns.jpg" width="300" border="0" /> There's Florida!  Front and center!

Sheeplovr

05-18-2006, 02:54 PM

There's Florida!  Front and centerit might as well be a giant cock now why would he fly into space to brood only to look at south america? cool poster i dont like where he's faceing the eart haha what a dumb complaint

JustJon

05-19-2006, 06:49 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: I'm sure there is someone who looks more like Christopher Reeve/Superman. I know he wasn't the original superman, but he owned that role and changed the way we look at that character. He was Superman!  No, that is how our generation views Superman.  The kids today don't.  The folks who grew up on the serials don't.  The fans of the 90s Superboy tv show don't.  The fans of Lois and Clark don't.  etc.

Don Stugots

05-19-2006, 06:53 AM

dean cain was a rip off. the dude in smallville is cool as Superman. Reeve was Superman. Hands down. Great casting, considering the big names that past on it.

I will admit that when i saw Walk The Line there was a trailer for Superman, I got teary eyed when I saw it. The first image of him in the clouds, i thought for just a second that it was Reeve. My chick leaned over to me and said "you dont cry when people die, you dont wence at pain, but a 6-2 guy in a blue suit makes you weep like a child, i love you." then i just needed to be held.

Furtherman

06-19-2006, 10:27 AM

<a href="http://superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=4412" target="_blank">Listen to the Superman Returns score by composer John Ottoman.</a> I got some chills when it started.  Easily one of the best movie scores, up there with Star Wars and Indiana Jones.

booster11373

06-19-2006, 11:37 AM

Newsweeks review of Superman Returns<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13389957/site/newsweek" target="_self">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13389957/site/newsweek</a>Harry Knowls' review (he loves everything)<a href="http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=23635" target="_self">http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=23635</a> careful its full of spoilers read at own risk!!

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Doctor Manhattan

06-24-2006, 06:07 PM

Furtherman wrote: <a href="http://superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=4412" target="_blank">Listen to the Superman Returns score by composer John Ottoman.</a>I got some chills when it started.  Easily one of the best movie scores, up there with Star Wars and Indiana Jones.  They didn't get John Williams to do it? He did the 1978 Movie score (which they seem to be using a bit of in this one) and he did Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Jaws (which you left off your list of Best Movie Scores) No, that is how our generation views Superman.   Well, Our generation is correct.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" />Actually the more I see from this new movie, the more I'm behind Bryan Singer's choice.

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 6-24-06 @ 10:10 PM

Tenbatsuzen

06-24-2006, 07:21 PM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: Furtherman wrote: <a target="_blank" href="http://superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=4412">Listen to the Superman Returns score by composer John Ottoman.</a>I got some chills when it started. Easily one of the best movie scores, up there with Star Wars and Indiana Jones. They didn't get John Williams to do it? He did the 1978 Movie score (which they seem to be using a bit of in this one) and he did Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Jaws (which you left off your list of Best Movie Scores) No, that is how our generation views Superman. Well, Our generation is correct.<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" />Actually the more I see from this new movie, the more I'm behind Bryan Singer's choice.

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 6-24-06 @ 10:10 PM   Ottoman's score for the main title is more of an "homage" to Williams.  It's pretty much the same melody, just some different cues, tones, and beats throughout the piece.  Different arrangement too, especially in the beginning, which I think is to signify a "return".

narc

06-24-2006, 07:25 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">STUGOTS1 wrote: dean cain was a rip off. the dude in smallville is cool as Superman. Reeve was Superman. Hands down. Great casting, considering the big names that past on it.

I will admit that when i saw Walk The Line there was a trailer for Superman, I got teary eyed when I saw it. The first image of him in the clouds, i thought for just a second that it was Reeve. My chick leaned over to me and said "you dont cry when people die, you dont wence at pain, but a 6-2 guy in a blue suit makes you weep like a child, i love you." then i just needed to be held. <hr color="cococo" align="left">

Wow, what a colossal pussy.

cougarjake13

06-25-2006, 06:53 AM

i was watching a making of superman returns, i think it was on mtv anyway he (b. routh) looks uncanny simliar to reeve and at times sounds like him as well was this done on purpose by singer ???<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

RingWraith

06-25-2006, 07:05 AM

cougarjake13 wrote: i was watching a making of superman returns, i think it was on mtv anyway he (b. routh) looks uncanny simliar to reeve and at times sounds like him as well was this done on purpose by singer ???<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />I saw the same preview too.  I'd don't he looks similar to Reeve, but he definitely does sound like him.  Especially as Clark Kent.

Doctor Manhattan

06-25-2006, 11:02 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Ottoman's score for the main title is more of an "homage" to Williams.  It's pretty much the same melody, just some different cues, tones, and beats throughout the piece.  Different arrangement too, especially in the beginning, which I think is to signify a "return".  I'm listening to the score now. John Williams should have a credit on the "Main Titles" track.

Tenbatsuzen

06-25-2006, 11:16 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Ottoman's score for the main title is more of an "homage" to Williams. It's pretty much the same melody, just some different cues, tones, and beats throughout the piece. Different arrangement too, especially in the beginning, which I think is to signify a "return". I'm listening to the score now. John Williams should have a credit on the "Main Titles" track.   Is he listed in the liner notes? I think what Ottoman did was just "cover" Williams' score.  Hence why Ottoman and his orchestra has the performance credit, but it's Williams' work. I'll do some research to see what happened here.  Maybe Williams is doing something else and wanted to hand the reins over to a protege.

Tenbatsuzen

06-25-2006, 11:21 AM

Explanation: Just like Williams is the "personal" conductor for Lucas and Spielberg, Ottman is the personal conductor for Bryan Singer. He scored Usual Suspects, X-2, and other films. Superman's theme is iconic.  Just like Vader's, just like Indy's, and to a less extent, Batman by Elfman.  So I think they did the smart move in "covering" the theme, rather than producing a new piece.

Doctor Manhattan

06-25-2006, 02:35 PM

That's cool. I don't think Williams has to score every film. And I know Ottman wrote a lot of orignal music for this film, but if you are going to use the main title score that someone else wrote, you should give them a credit (I assume it's listed on the CD or something. iTunes didn't list it.)

Bulldogcakes

06-25-2006, 02:46 PM

<img width="400" height="554" border="0" src="http://www.boners.com/content/796548.1.jpg" /> Gee, I wonder where they came up with that "ambiguously gay duo" bit?

Bulldogcakes

06-25-2006, 03:00 PM

<img width="595" height="491" border="0" src="http://www.boners.com/content/796350.1.jpg" />Here's a Batman water pistol. Fill it up the ass, squeeze the dick and it shoots from the mouth.

bobrobot

06-27-2006, 09:58 PM

The movie's really quite good, and a lotta fun, 85% action, 15% melodrama. The crowd where I saw it was very quiet, reverential & restrained. This Superman IS a Christopher Reeve clone in acting & appearance. Man, they load on the Christ metaphor w/ a shovel!!! Some great visuals tho, including a cool homage to the Action Comix #1 cover!<img height="283" src="http://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/quadrinhos/artigos/super-homem/action_comics1.jpg" width="200" border="0" />

rustybill

06-27-2006, 10:15 PM

i just saw it also, and thought it was good.  the christ metaphor was in there a lot, he kept his arms outstretched a couple of times...the atlas holding up the world bit was a little much also, but all in all a good movie to watch

AKA

06-28-2006, 04:40 AM

Seeing it tonight. The last couple of nights i watched the first two Christopher Reeve movies and was more than a little let down how dated and really quite bad they were. I always had the memory that "Superman II" was a rare example of when a sequel was better than the original, but it just bordered on hokey (someone is fucking eating ice cream while three super villians are destroying the city?!) to dull (how many times do we need to go back and forth to the fortress of solitude) - and basically the movie turns out to be a giant "what would a man do to bust a nut." Just a big ol popping of the bubble.

EliSnow

06-28-2006, 04:52 AM

AKA wrote: Seeing it tonight. The last couple of nights i watched the first two Christopher Reeve movies and was more than a little let down how dated and really quite bad they were. I always had the memory that "Superman II" was a rare example of when a sequel was better than the original, but it just bordered on hokey (someone is fucking eating ice cream while three super villians are destroying the city?!) to dull (how many times do we need to go back and forth to the fortress of solitude) - and basically the movie turns out to be a giant "what would a man do to bust a nut." Just a big ol popping of the bubble.I've had the same opinion of Superman II for years.  Each crowd scene during the fight in Metropolis is so hokey that it makes me virtually puke each time that I watch it.

RingWraith

06-28-2006, 08:02 AM

EliSnow wrote: AKA wrote: Seeing it tonight. The last couple of nights i watched the first two Christopher Reeve movies and was more than a little let down how dated and really quite bad they were. I always had the memory that "Superman II" was a rare example of when a sequel was better than the original, but it just bordered on hokey (someone is fucking eating ice cream while three super villians are destroying the city?!) to dull (how many times do we need to go back and forth to the fortress of solitude) - and basically the movie turns out to be a giant "what would a man do to bust a nut." Just a big ol popping of the bubble.I've had the same opinion of Superman II for years.  Each crowd scene during the fight in Metropolis is so hokey that it makes me virtually puke each time that I watch it.  At least the people banded together and tried to take on Zod and the two other villians after they thought they "killed" Superman. (Ugh!)  I "Ugh" when in Spiderman 1, a crowd was throwing stuff at the Goblin trying to help and defend Spiderman. "You mess with him, you mess with all of us!!!" (UUUGGGHHHH!!!!)  That was sooo corny and cheesy.In comic book movies, ordinary humans SUCKS!!!!  The movie is about the superhero and the supervillian.  Go away stupid humans!!On a side note, on Superman II, let's not forget about the bus scene where Reeve clearly had a smirk/smile and delivering the "No! Don't do it! THE PEOPLE!!"  I'm like, is that the best take they can put??!!

JustJon

06-28-2006, 09:08 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: That's cool. I don't think Williams has to score every film. And I know Ottman wrote a lot of orignal music for this film, but if you are going to use the main title score that someone else wrote, you should give them a credit (I assume it's listed on the CD or something. iTunes didn't list it.)  They've given Williams credit in every interview and every place they talk about the music.  Singer has been very reverential about Williams work every time he's talked about Ottman.

fezident

06-28-2006, 02:15 PM

The main theme is not the ONLY cue taken from the original Williams score.  There are quite a few nods to themes from the original soundtrack.  The Martha Kent "Smallville" theme and the Lois Lane/ "Can You Read My Mind Theme" are also paid an homage.  There is also a variation on the flying-to-earth theme from the original movie.  It's not note for note but...it's definitely the inspiration for some cues on this soundtrack.The original soundtrack is sooo damn good.  Maybe even better than "Raiders".  Smart move to tie it in to this new incarnation of Supes.

Bulldogcakes

06-28-2006, 02:41 PM

Tenbatsuzen

06-28-2006, 05:31 PM

Saw it tonight.   Some people force you to choose between Elvis or the Beatles, or Superman vs. Batman. Tonight, I believed that a man could fly. (Insert Jim Norton going, "EEEEECCCCCHHHHHHH!!!" here.) Seriously, I think this is probably one of my favorite superhero/comic book movies of all time, in the original Batman/Batman Begins rare air, and that's saying something. The movie was absolutely phenomenal.  Superman wasn't gay at all, and the kid wasn't annoying, which were the two things I was very scared about. In answer to the Ottman/Williams question - Williams is given proper credit for the main theme in the opening credits, allthough Brando wasn't credited - which I found curious.  My ONLY detraction was that I didn't like Parker Posey or her character, but I never liked Posey that much to begin with.

fezident

06-28-2006, 05:57 PM

I liked it too but...I think they focused waaay too much on the whole Lois-Lane-Doesnt-Think-The-World-Needs-Superman thing.Superman I was about Lex trying to destroy the west coast.  Superman II was about Zod & company.  The Lois storylines were secondary.  I felt like that formula was reversed in this installment.  That Lois plotline was the engine that drove the movie.  For my taste...it was too much.  Far too many shots of Supes gazing longingly at Lois (through walls!) and vice versa.  Too much with the article that Lois has to write but doesn't want to.  Etc etc. The sequel will kick all kinds of ass. That much is certain.

booster11373

06-28-2006, 07:11 PM

It was a good movie I liked it for what it was. It just wasn't the Superman movie I wanted to see.  Brandon Routh does a good job as Clark/Superman. Spacey does a good job as Luthor. The effects were real good the best man flying effects on film so far. The music is spot on. The supporting cast was well played and not distracting (ie. little kid)It just wasnt the Superman movie I wanted to see and maybe a little to heavy on the Christ angle.

AKA

06-29-2006, 05:07 AM

I thought the movie was amazing - I'm really glad I muddled through the first two movies on DVD recently, because it's clear that they had studied those films - Lois' smoking, her not able to spell, the old red truck in Kansas, Glen Ford's picture on the piano, the goosepimpling music and opening credits, Marlon Brando, the lines parrotted from the first movies ("What was the last thing my father said to me?"/Superman's speech by the kid's bed). Now that they have done it, i'm happy they basically kept with the movie continuity rather than try and reinvent it one more time ("Smallville," "Lois & Clark" etc). Luther stealing the crystals was (now) an obvious choice for a direction to go into, and Spacey did a fantastic job as someone who doesn't care about the deaths of billions. Love the touches to classic "iconic" Superman ("Look up in the sky!"/the Action #1 cover recreation/"Great Caesars Ghost!") - and that airplane rescue was one of the best things like that I've maybe ever seen done on film, even if the resolution reminded me Bugs Bunny's crashing airplane that stops because it runs out of gas. Superman has always been about his need to be the world's savior and his wanting to be with Lois, and I personally thought this movie continued along those lines treating both equally well. MAJOR Geek Points for anyone who noticed <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0489001/" target="_self">Jack Larson</a> as the bartender (he was the original television Jimmy Olsen - and according to IMDB he reprised that role in "Lois and Clark") or <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/replytotopic.cfm/Forum/80/Topic/42020/currentpage/Noel%20Neill" target="_self">Noel Neill</a> as the old lady (t.v.'s original Lois Lane) - I thought she might have been Margot Kidder under make-up, but no - no geek points for me on either, actually.<img height="151" src="http://www.loti.com/articles/Superman_html_m47192848.jpg" width="200" border="0" />

cougarjake13

06-29-2006, 04:19 PM

havent seen it yet, well this weekend but from your posts it sounds almost like this was setup/reintroduction to the franchise movie and subsequent movies if there are any, hopefully will be less focused on backstory 

Don Stugots

06-29-2006, 04:22 PM

i bought my tickets to go see it on the IMAX for July 4th at 10.00 AM.  i can not wait.

cougarjake13

06-29-2006, 04:27 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: i bought my tickets to go see it on the IMAX for July 4th at 10.00 AM.  i can not wait. i've only seen one movie in IMAX form, it ws either star war 1 or 2 but i dont remember it being that much better than a reg viewing ... has it gotten any better ???

Don Stugots

06-29-2006, 04:28 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: i bought my tickets to go see it on the IMAX for July 4th at 10.00 AM.  i can not wait. i've only seen one movie in IMAX form, it ws either star war 1 or 2 but i dont remember it being that much better than a reg viewing ... has it gotten any better ???i will let you know.  i haver never seen a movie on IMAX before.

furie

06-29-2006, 07:52 PM

Just saw it. I was throughly impressed.

fezident

07-01-2006, 04:02 PM

Question:What is the BFD about that stupid article that Lois wrote?  Why in the HELL would it win a Pulitzer Prize??   The whole movie is based around it and I think it's a retarded premise."Why The World Doesn't Really Need Superman" ??Umm, maybe because he prevented squillions of crimes all over the planet! When he went on his little lay-a-way with Lois FOR ONE DAY the world almost ended thanks to General Zod.  The Eiffel Tower incident, the helicopter incident (which, by the way, saved Lois' ass), the earthquake, etc etc.  Why would anyone even READ that article, much less buy into it...much less award it the Pulitzer?   And, while I'm at it....he's SUPERMAN damn it.  It never occured to Lois that maybe he had business to take care of on some other planet, or that maybe he somehow died , OR that he was abducted, OR SOMETHING?  All she could think of was "Superman never said goodbye so...now I hate him and I'm gonna shack up with this guy at work IMMEDIATELY"The whole Lois thang really bugged me in this new movie.  Screw her. 

This message was edited by fezident on 7-1-06 @ 8:03 PM

badorties

07-01-2006, 05:14 PM

furie wrote: Just saw it. I was throughly impressed. totally agree, saw it yesterday and it was everything i had hoped it would be without too much crapgreat flick

samnyc

07-01-2006, 07:08 PM

it was ok but so many repeat lines and situations from the previous superman movies.  i can't believe someone spent more than two hundred million on this.  godfrey cheshire has some interesting comments in his review.

fezident

07-10-2006, 07:12 AM

Can I ask a few more questions about this retarded Superman movie? In Superman II, he kisses Lois TO MAKE HER FORGET EVERYTHING.  If that is the case...why is he so suprised to learn that she has moved on with her life after 5 years? He hypnokissed her to make her forget, THEN he left for 5 years without giving an explanation. NOW he's hurt that her life doesn't include him?!  That's just plain stupid.Also, in Superman II, he "left' for a few days to have super-sex with Lois.  When he comes back, he promises the president that he'll "never leave again".  Then....he leaves.  What gives?And...why exactly did he leave?  Why did he feel compelled to go to the empty space where Krypton used to be? What was the reason for even making that journey?  AND...why does the trip kick his ass?  When he comes back to Smallville (at the beginning of this new movie) he looks like he's gonna die. He looks like he could barely survive the trip back from Krypton.  But...in Superman '78, the little baby survived the trip just fine, thank you.  He's clean and happy and even lifts his fathers pickup truck with a smile on his face! The more I think about this movie....the more I hate it.

JustJon

07-10-2006, 08:10 AM

And...why exactly did he leave?  Why did he feel
compelled to go to the empty space where Krypton used to be? What was
the reason for even making that journey?  AND...why does the trip kick
his ass?  When he comes back to Smallville (at the beginning of this
new movie) he looks like he's gonna die. He looks like he could barely
survive the trip back from Krypton.  But...in Superman '78, the little
baby survived the trip just fine, thank you.  He's clean and happy and
even lifts his fathers pickup truck with a smile on his face!Uh, deleted scenes kinda covered it

Doctor Manhattan

07-10-2006, 09:46 AM

JustJon wrote:  And...why exactly did he leave?  Why did he feel compelled to go to the empty space where Krypton used to be? What was the reason for even making that journey?  AND...why does the trip kick his ass?  When he comes back to Smallville (at the beginning of this new movie) he looks like he's gonna die. He looks like he could barely survive the trip back from Krypton.  But...in Superman '78, the little baby survived the trip just fine, thank you.  He's clean and happy and even lifts his fathers pickup truck with a smile on his face!  Uh, deleted scenes kinda covered it Where are the deleted scenes? (you mean for Superman Returns?)

fezident

07-10-2006, 10:14 AM

JustJon

07-10-2006, 10:39 AM

<a href="http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=7717" target="_blank">scene descriptions and stills</a>

fezident

07-10-2006, 10:45 AM

That really doesn't answer a single question.Was there, at one time, a scene that depicted Supes going back to Krypton? I guess so.  But, as of this moment...we still don't know WHY he went.  What he was expecting to find. Why he had to leave without giving ANY explanation to the women he loves and/or the president and/or the public.   And...why the journey was so physically taxing for him as an adult but, not at all a problem for him as a child.

Furtherman

07-10-2006, 10:55 AM

fezident wrote:  But, as of this moment...we still don't know WHY he went.  What he was expecting to find. Why he had to leave without giving ANY explanation to the women he loves and/or the president and/or the public.   And...why the journey was so physically taxing for him as an adult but, not at all a problem for him as a child.Yes we do.  Astronomers spotted the remains of Krypton.  Superman thinks, there may be something left?  So he goes and checks it out.  A simple premise of one wanted to know where he came from.He explained it was too hard for him to say goodbye to Lois.  As for the president and public - c'mon.. that is just nitpicking.  In Superman Returns he is seen helping the world - but he wasn't in 1 or 2, why not?  It's inconsequental in regards to the movie.We'll probably learn all about the journey to and from Krypton in the DVD release.

Doctor Manhattan

07-10-2006, 11:09 AM

fezident wrote: Why he had to leave without giving ANY explanation to the women he loves and/or the president and/or the public.    Superman doesn't work for the President (I hear he didn't vote for him, Is he allowed to vote?) They don't even show or mention the president in this last movie do they?

fezident

07-10-2006, 11:15 AM

1) His intent was to travel for 5 years to look at the remains?   He left behind everything he ever loved (and everything that ever loved him!) to go and MAYBE look at what MIGHT be remains of a planet the he KNOWS exploded 30 years ago?  There better be more to it than that.  It just doesn't sound right.  2) I only mentioned the POTUSA because, at the end of Superman II, he flew into the White House and said "I was away for a while but, I'm back now...and I'll never let you down again" (or something like that)

This message was edited by fezident on 7-10-06 @ 3:21 PM

Furtherman

07-10-2006, 11:17 AM

fezident wrote: I only mentioned the POTUSA because, at the end of Superman II, he flew into the White House and said "I was away for a while but, I'm back now...and I'll never let you down again" (or something like that) If the president didn't get re-elected... or was in his second term, well, Superman promised HIM, not the new president 5 years later.So there.

fezident

07-10-2006, 11:22 AM

Furtherman wrote: fezident wrote: I only mentioned the POTUSA because, at the end of Superman II, he flew into the White House and said "I was away for a while but, I'm back now...and I'll never let you down again" (or something like that) If the president didn't get re-elected... or was in his second term, well, Superman promised HIM, not the new president 5 years later.So there.Touche, Furtherman. Touche.

Doctor Manhattan

07-10-2006, 11:37 AM

I only mentioned the POTUSA because, at the end of Superman II, he flew into the White House and said "I was away for a while but, I'm back now...and I'll never let you down again" (or something like that)He didn't promise never to leave. In Superman II Kal-El let him down by giving up his powers just before 3 Kyptonians were about to take over Earth. Those 3 have been taken care of and there are no other Kyptonians to come to Earth and try the same thing (Superman has all the knowledge of the "28 Known Galaxies" available to him)He left Earth 5 years ago knowing(thinking) that there would not be an outside threat.

fezident

07-10-2006, 12:40 PM

I'm aware that it sounds nitpicky....all I'm saying is, the writers took the easy way out.  They had the option to give Superman a legit reason to leave for a length of time.  He could've had SOMETHING heroic to do in one of the other 28 galaxies.  Maybe a 'Star Trek" type mission where he needed to examine other worlds. They could've done someting with traveling the speed of light made everyone 5 years older and, for him, it was only a fraction of that time.  WHATEVER!  In my opinion, going to see the burned out remains of a planet that he knows exploded over 30 years ago is NOT a sensible reason.The whole movie hinges on the fact that he A) left and B)came back.  They really should've put more energy into his motivations for doing both.  That's all I'm sayin'.

TheMojoPin

07-10-2006, 02:17 PM

I think you're just trying to hate it at this point.He left because he might be able to find something about his heritage.  The guy's friggin' home planet blew up when he was a baby...he's not going to be curious to see if there's anything left?  The Kryptonians were incredibly advanced technologically...if big chunks of the planet were intact, maybe some of them had somehow survived (as we have seen in the comics).  The motivation for him wanting to check it out really isn't that much of a stretch...what I'll agree with is that if this is supposedly a sequel to the first 2 films, no, we haven't been given anything to show why he would leave so suddenly and without warning.  But in the overall scope of all 3 films, it works.As for him coming back, I'm assuming he found nothing, or at least thought he didn't.  Hopefully, Singer is smart enough to realize he can easily use this scenario to setup a perfect intro for a Brainiac/Eradicator-type villain.

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 7-10-06 @ 6:23 PM

Johnny4

07-11-2006, 10:42 AM

I just saw it on Sunday. The SFX were great and seamless. The acting was well done. My major problem was the story line. I personally thought the first 2 movies were shitty in comparison to the storylines we are used 2 now. I was much happier with the way the new Batman was done in comparison. It was almost a superhero chick flick.

Furtherman

07-21-2006, 11:05 AM

<table class="blog-table" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" border="0"><tr class="blog-header" valign="top"><td>Superman II Gets Major DVD Redo <div /></td></tr><tr class="blog-body" valign="top"><td>Christopher Reeve's run as the Man of Steel will be "immortalized" when all four entries receive special DVD treatment on Nov. 14 — including, most importantly, a revised cut of Superman II, which changed directors in the middle of filming. (Richard Lester stepped in for Richard Donner midway through the shoot, and in doing so gave the film a more comical angle.) Donner, though, will now have the final say, incorporating his original but never-used footage — including a never-before-seen beginning, a different ending and 15 minutes' worth of Marlon Brando scenes that delve deeper into Jor-El's bond with his son. <div /></td></tr></table>

This message was edited by Furtherman on 7-21-06 @ 3:05 PM

JustJon

07-21-2006, 11:27 AM

I had read an interview with Donner saying he wasn't part of the re-do of Superman II which was being referred to as the director's cut

TheMojoPin

07-21-2006, 12:00 PM

That sucks...just let him edit together his parts of 1 & 2 into a single giant film, like The Godfather Saga.  Easily would be the greatest comic book film of all time.

cougarjake13

07-21-2006, 06:37 PM

JustJon wrote: I had read an interview with Donner saying he wasn't part of the re-do of Superman II which was being referred to as the director's cut will his un used scenes still be part of the dvd ???<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

fezident

07-24-2006, 05:54 AM

Yes, the new Superman II dvd will have the restored footage:  If BRYAN SINGER has any say in the matter, another Superman flick will be in theaters in the summer of 2009. The director told fans Friday at Comic-Con International in San Diego that he'd been in talks with Warner Bros. Pictures about possibly helming a sequel to the current Superman Returns.  Even though everything is still tentative with Superman, Singer is interested in keeping the franchise alive. He was quoted as saying, "I plan to get all Wrath of Khan on it," -- a reference to 1982's Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan, which is generally considered as having breathed life into the Star Trek film franchise after the critics panned Star Trek: The Motion Picture in 1979.  Meanwhile, in other Man of Steel news, TV Guide Online reports that all four Superman films will be released on DVD on November 14th. The highlight of the set will be a revised cut of Superman II, which changed directors in the middle of filming. Those in the know will recall that RICHARD LESTER took over for RICHARD DONNER midway through the shoot, and in so doing gave the film a more comical angle. Donner, though, had the final say about incorporating his original but never-used footage, which includes a never-before-seen beginning, a different ending and 15 minutes' worth of MARLON BRANDO scenes that look deeper into Jor-El's bond with his super son.

cougarjake13

11-01-2006, 01:39 PM

looks like you dont have to buy the box set to see the extra unused footage<a name="1"></a><a name="film1">'Superman II': The Other Director's Cut</a> <div class="studiopara"><img height="90" alt="" src="http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/73/35/55s.jpg" width="64" align="left" border="0" /> Time Warner plans to issue a director's cut of <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/title/tt0081573/">Superman II</a> on Nov. 20 that will feature the work of director <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0001149/">Richard Donner</a>, who was fired from the movie and replaced by <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0504513/">Richard Lester</a> midway through the movie in 1979. According to today's (Wednesday) London Times, the film will include 15 minutes of previously unseen footage of <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0000008/">Marlon Brando</a> as Superman's father, Jor-El. The film also employs footage from Donner's screen tests and numerous alternate sequences. In fact, according to the Times, the film uses less than 20 percent of the footage shot by Lester. A spokeswoman for Warner Home Video told the newspaper that the new film was made possible because producers Alexander and <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0007163/">Ilya Salkind</a>, who fired Donner, sold their interest in the film to Time Warner. A critic for Britain's Empire magazine who viewed the new version said that it was plagued with continuity problems arising from the fact that Donner was forced to make do with footage on hand, including the screen-test footage. "It's patchy (Reeve's hairstyle changes from shot to shot), badly lit and stagy, but watching Reeve's performance is electrifying," according to the Empire review. </div>

Furtherman

09-22-2009, 09:47 AM

Yikes.

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