OFFICIAL 2004 ELECTION DAY THREAD [Archive]

Reephdweller

11-01-2004, 06:51 AM

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I love the ads for the Daily Show's Election Night coverage already eluding to the recount.

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11-01-2004, 07:00 AM

Anyone know of any good bars to go for election night in NY/NJ area.

I was about to ask the same, but for a gas station that sells cigarettes too.

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Crippler

11-01-2004, 07:46 AM

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I love the ads for the Daily Show's Election Night coverage already eluding to the recount.
I can't remember if it was on TV or radio, but my favorite one is:
INDECISION 2004...PRELUDE TO A RECOUNT!

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curtoid

11-01-2004, 07:58 AM

The Guardian, one of Britain's most respected newspapers, ran a column by Charlie Brooker last week ending with this paragaph:

On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed ...

On Sunday the Guardian not only removed the article, but had this to say:

The final sentence of a column in The Guide on Saturday caused offence to some readers. The Guardian associates itself with the following statement from the writer.

"Charlie Brooker apologises for any offence caused by his comments relating to President Bush in his TV column, Screen Burn. The views expressed in this column are not those of the Guardian. Although flippant and tasteless, his closing comments were intended as an ironic joke, not as a call to action - an intention he believed regular readers of his humorous column would understand. He deplores violence of any kind."

The article has now been removed from the Guardian Unlimited website.

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11-01-2004, 08:25 AM

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Tenbatsuzen

11-01-2004, 08:27 AM

TheMojoPin

11-01-2004, 09:06 AM

In fact, my views mirror governor Schwarzenegger... financial conservative, social moderate...

...groper of women.

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curtoid

11-01-2004, 09:13 AM

This board will be a very interesting place come Wednesday.

I'm split this way... I'm a moderate Republican. In fact, my views mirror governor Schwarzenegger... financial conservative, social moderate.

I believe in the woman's right to choose and stem cell research, but I also believe that welfare and other things have to be locked down.

I don't want to vote for Bush, but I certainly don't want to vote for Kerry.

I'm a swing state, so I'm fucking screwed either way.

Look at it this way - even if you hate Kerry, what is the worst he can do with a Republican congress? He is going to be forced to work with them and together they may actually move some stuff through that appeal to the larger American population. I was talking to a friend last night who lives in Ohio - a "former Republican" - registered Independent - former military - and he made up his mind this last week to vote for Kerry because he thinks real conservatives will actually get more out of having the balance of power split once again.

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Reephdweller

11-01-2004, 10:12 AM

Look at it this way - even if you hate Kerry, what is the worst he can do with a Republican congress? He is going to be forced to work with them and together they may actually move some stuff through that appeal to the larger American population.

I hope this would be the case should he get elected. I know that it worked for Bill Clinton and a republican congress. However I think that one of the reasons more people haven't given Kerry more heat is that he comes off as far more liberal than Clinton ever was. Clinton I think surprised a lot of people because he adapted to the congress he had to deal with and he and we ultimately benefited from this economically. I think Clinton has always appeared as more of a moderate (whether or not he actually was), though his actions showed that he was someone who could work with others. Well, I think this was the case at least during the first three years of his second term.

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curtoid

11-01-2004, 10:28 AM

I hope this would be the case should he get elected. I know that it worked for Bill Clinton and a republican congress. However I think that one of the reasons more people haven't given Kerry more heat is that he comes off as far more liberal than Clinton ever was. Clinton I think surprised a lot of people because he adapted to the congress he had to deal with and he and we ultimately benefited from this economically. I think Clinton has always appeared as more of a moderate (whether or not he actually was), though his actions showed that he was someone who could work with others. Well, I think this was the case at least during the first three years of his second term.

Clinton had to adapt when the Democrats lost out in 1992. His second term, a lot of good bi-partisan work was overshadowed by the impeachment.

Gore was actually a true moderate, but somehow got painted into the "liberal" corner that everyone (except Nader voters) bought.

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Reephdweller

11-01-2004, 10:34 AM

Clinton had to adapt when the Democrats lost out in 1992. His second term, a lot of good bi-partisan work was overshadowed by the impeachment.

Agreed. This is what I was suggesting. Clinton could have vetoed things and made political war, but instead he worked with republicans. Far more often than I think he really needed to. I think people in general appreciated that. However with regards to Kerry, I don't think it will be nearly as smooth a go as that. Not that Bush has done well with his own congress. However I think if Kerry does lose, it will be because he came off more liberal than Bill Clinton did.

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East Side Dave

11-01-2004, 10:35 AM

Can we pull a "Shirley Jackson" and stone the winner to death?

Or we could pull a Shirley Jones and Partridge Family the winner to death!!

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mdr55

11-01-2004, 11:03 AM

mdr55 endorses Dick Cheney for President.

4 more years! 4 more years!

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Reephdweller

11-01-2004, 11:08 AM

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11-01-2004, 11:09 AM

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AND WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT!!!!!!

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Fallon

11-01-2004, 11:14 AM

Tommorow will be my first time voting. Go Kerry!

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mdr55

11-01-2004, 11:21 AM

Tommorow will be my first time voting. Go Bush!*

Bringing democracy to the Middle East---- GEORGE W. BUSH

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angrymissy

11-01-2004, 12:07 PM

Tall_James

11-01-2004, 12:14 PM

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Hottub

11-01-2004, 03:33 PM

I have got to put this gem up here. To me, it is up there with The Lord's Prayer.
This by no means is meant to cross party lines, but the following passage just rings so true for me. 150 years later

I do not forget the gravity which should characterize a paper addressed to the Congress of the nation by the Chief Magistrate of the nation. Nor do I forget that some of you are my seniors, nor that many of you have more experience than I, in the conduct of public affairs. Yet I trust that in view of the great responsibility resting upon me, you will perceive no want of respect yourselves, in any undue earnestness I may seem to display.

Is it doubted, then, that the plan I propose, if adopted, would shorten the war, and thus lessen its expenditure of money and of blood? Is it doubted that it would restore the national authority and national prosperity, and perpetuate both indefinitely? Is it doubted that we here--Congress and Executive--can secure its adoption? Will not the good people respond to a united, and earnest appeal from us? Can we, can they, by any other means, so certainly, or so speedily, assure these vital objects? We can succeed only by concert. It is not "can any of us imagine better?" but, "can we all do better?" The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise -- with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disentrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.

Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this Congress and this administration, will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance, or insignificance, can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation. We say we are for the Union. The world will not forget that we say this. We know how to save the Union. The world knows we do know how to save it. We -- even we here -- hold the power, and bear the responsibility. In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free -- honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just -- a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless.

Abraham Lincoln
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GodsFavoriteMan

11-01-2004, 03:36 PM

In what context are you using Lincoln's speech?

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jeffs2001

11-01-2004, 03:44 PM

F*** FOX & The Post...they are Bush Zombies

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Hottub

11-01-2004, 03:51 PM

Maybe you should ACTUALLY READ IT before replying.

I love when me and Sat post one after the other. The only 2 on the board "right justified"

never mind!!

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11-01-2004, 03:55 PM

I'm shitting in my pants from the excitement.

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TheMojoPin

11-01-2004, 06:56 PM

STOP UNSTICKYING MY GODDAMN THREAD!

BLACK RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!

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GodsFavoriteMan

11-01-2004, 09:53 PM

Maybe you should ACTUALLY READ IT before replying.

I did, a couple times before I even asked, and it's about the Civil War and ending slavery. Are you comparing that to the war in Iraq?

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11-02-2004, 03:50 AM

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Mike Teacher

11-02-2004, 03:56 AM

Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history.

That is what he said,
That is what Abraham Lincoln said

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 04:17 AM

Uh oh, it's raining (http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/forecasts/OHZ077.php?warncounty=OHC061&city=Cincinnati) in Ohio. (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/forecasts/OHZ011.php?warncounty=OHC035&city=Cleveland)

Bush just might win Ohio afterall.

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silera

11-02-2004, 04:46 AM

Can someone explain to me why it's ok for the RNC/GOP to accuse democrats of faking voter registrations?

Is this what we've come to?

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blakjeezis

11-02-2004, 05:08 AM

In the same way that it's okay for Dems to accuse GOPers of intimidating black voters.

Yes, Silera, sadly this is indeed what we've come to.

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Hottub

11-02-2004, 05:12 AM

Went to the polls at 7 am today.
Had to wait in line for 15 minutes.
I don't remember ever waiting in line before...

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 05:36 AM

why does mojo's thread keep unstickying?

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SatCam

11-02-2004, 05:38 AM

why does mojo's thread keep unstickying?

He has stickyphobia

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silera

11-02-2004, 05:40 AM

SatCam

11-02-2004, 05:45 AM

I say we have a potato sack race with the two pres/vp teams.

Whoever hops across the finish line first gets to be president.
Unfair. Edwards is young, sexy and fit while Cheney is old, ugly and fat.

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silera

11-02-2004, 05:46 AM

We can do a triatholon. Pototo sack race, house of horrors, and swimsuit competition.

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SatCam

11-02-2004, 05:49 AM

We can do a triatholon. Pototo sack race, house of horrors, and swimsuit competition.

Next thing you're going to tell me is that the winner should be based on the popular vote... hahahahahah!!! FUNNY!

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 05:53 AM

Unfair. Edwards is young, sexy and fit while Cheney is old, ugly and fat.

Is it wrong to have a male crush on John Edwards?

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A.J.

11-02-2004, 05:54 AM

I say we have a potato sack race with the two pres/vp teams.

Whoever hops across the finish line first gets to be president.

That way, pesky elections won't matter.

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Good thing they didn't have this when FDR and Bob Dole ran.

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East Side Dave

11-02-2004, 05:54 AM

Is it wrong to have a male crush on John Edwards?

No. Just like it's not wrong to have a male crush on Corbin Bernsen.

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Doctor Manhattan

11-02-2004, 06:13 AM

VA polls opened at 6:00 and I've never seen it as busy as it was this morning. I usually just walk right in a vote, no line. But today I arrived right at 6 and waited about an hour. I hope this is the case around the country.

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GodsFavoriteMan

11-02-2004, 06:14 AM

I voted, w00t. And lucky for me it only took 10 minutes, unlucky for me it was a provisional ballot.

They say they get counted today . . .

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11-02-2004, 06:21 AM

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jeffdwright2001

11-02-2004, 06:24 AM

F*** FOX & The Post...they are Bush Zombies

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Great, now this s/n and my s/n will end up in the "I always get these two confused" thread.

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11-02-2004, 06:32 AM

I say we have a potato sack race with the two pres/vp teams.

Whoever hops across the finish line first gets to be president.

That way, pesky elections won't matter.

[color=Red]Good thing they didn't have this when FDR and Bob Dole ran.

hey, you're not fooling me with that one. FDR NEVER ran (at least while in office).

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Tall_James

11-02-2004, 06:51 AM

F*** FOX & The Post...they are Bush Zombies

Hey Jeff - update your blog !

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ADF

11-02-2004, 07:29 AM

I voted.. go Kerry.

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 07:33 AM

I voted for the Edwards Cheney ticket. I want more lawyers and more corporate scandal and payoffs and backroom politicking. These guys will keep it interesting.

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fluffernutter

11-02-2004, 07:45 AM

BLACK RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!

Whats a nubian?

So I voted just a little bit ago and here is my story.

I think the republicans strategy is to have hot girls outside giving out the republican ballots. This one girl was giving me the eye, and I was to her as well and she handed me the Republican ticket and I said NO WAY, then I saw the Democrat pushers and they gave me theirs and I said ABSOLUTELY and then another Republican guy tried to slip me his ballot and I said NO NO NO! I then couldn't figure out the voting booth cause ours here in Perkasie (Bucks Co. PA REPRESENT!) are from the stone age. It felt so liberating though. I felt so damn American it gave me douche chills. Then as I left both girls followed me out to the curb and waved as I left. I should have let them try and convert me.

EDIT: Oh yeah, when did the Democrats start being referred to as Liberals and the Republicans as Conservatives? The whole Lib/Conserv title seems to be thrown around a whole lot more these days. Like even in the Campaign Ads its not "You Bad Democrats" but it is "You Bad Liberals" blah blah blah.

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11-02-2004, 08:08 AM

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Fallon

11-02-2004, 08:14 AM

I smacked down my vote for Kerry.

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Crippler

11-02-2004, 08:33 AM

Then as I left both girls followed me out to the curb and waved as I left. I should have let them try and convert me.
Damn me & my stupid absentee ballot!

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DarkHippie

11-02-2004, 09:32 AM

Then as I left both girls followed me out to the curb and waved as I left. I should have let them try and convert me.
And all I got was a Unicef bake sale when I voted

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42nd-delay

11-02-2004, 10:00 AM

Voted this morning in NYC, and had to wait about 40 minutes to get to the booth. As I left, the line was twice as long as when I got there. It's going to be crazy tonight.

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angrymissy

11-02-2004, 10:07 AM

What happens if there is still a long line at the polling places when 8PM (closing time) rolls around? Do they turn the people who are waiting on line away?

Voted for Kerry in NY last week via absentee ballot since I never changed my official address from NY to NJ.

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LilLibra

11-02-2004, 10:20 AM

Voted for Kerry at 11:30. Didn't have to wait more than five minutes after they finally sent me to the right district. Everytime I vote, it gets harder and harder for them to find my name in that stupid book.

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 10:23 AM

Election 2004 has been rocked with first wave of exit polls which show Kerry competitive in key states, campaign and media sources tell DRUDGE.... National Election Pool -- representing six major news organization -- shows Kerry in striking distance -- with small lead -- in Florida and Ohio.. MORE...

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BoondockSaint

11-02-2004, 10:26 AM

What happens if there is still a long line at the polling places when 8PM (closing time) rolls around? Do they turn the people who are waiting on line away?

I beleive that, by law, if you are on line at the time the polls close that they must let you vote.

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 10:26 AM

What happens if there is still a long line at the polling places when 8PM (closing time) rolls around? Do they turn the people who are waiting on line away?

No, I believe they close the doors to the polling places at 8:00 though if people are still waiting they let those people cast their vote. If the line stretches beyond the doors at 8 I think that what happens is that someone from the polling place stands at the end of the line and doesn't let any others come on the line. There may even be a police presence if that happens.

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LordJezo

11-02-2004, 11:11 AM

1) If you are on line when the polls close you get to stay in line.

2) KERRY IS WINNING ALL EXIT POLLS!!! WOOOOOO!!!!

Exit poll mania spread through media and campaign circles Tuesday afternoon after first wave of morning data showed Kerry competitive in key states.... National Election Pool -- representing six major news organization -- shows Kerry in striking distance -- with small lead -- in Florida and Ohio, sources tell DRUDGE...

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torker

11-02-2004, 11:30 AM

Vote early; Vote often

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curtoid

11-02-2004, 11:35 AM

Woke up at 5:30am - was 32nd in line by 5:45am - finished voting by 6:10am - had my McGriddle at 6:15am.

Felt GREAT!

Four years of frustration and bitching and quibbling and getting caught in silly discussions on message board came down to that very real moment.

The line was huge as I left - I would be so proud of Virginia if they shock everyone with an upset win for Kerry.

(Bush is getting spanked in Pennsylvania, btw).

I refuse to get excited about anything more than exercising my right to vote, which is pretty cool - 20th year doing it.

Today there was a kid in line with me, wearing his trench coat and bondage pants, voting for the first time, and a sweet old woman who (I'm afraid) was more than likely votinig in her last election.

God Bless America, Mutha fuckahs!

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EffMeBoobs

11-02-2004, 11:43 AM

Went back home to NJ to vote since I haven't registered in NY when we moved into our house a month ago. We got there at 12 and we were out by 12:05. GO Kerry!

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Tall_James

11-02-2004, 11:49 AM

My first time voting in Massachusetts, first time using a paper ballot. Looked like an SAT test with large print. Almost every race had a Democrat running unopposed. So I didn't have to vote in those races. The other race had two repulsive candidates (a Republican and a Democrat) so I abstained from voting there. Filled in the circle for Bush/Cheney and laughed knowing that me and 6 other people in the entire state were voting Republican.

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keithy_19

11-02-2004, 12:08 PM

The early exit polls really mean nothing. Businesses close later and that is when you will have more people voting.

I sincerely hope and pray the George Bush wins this election. I cannot see Kerry making an important decision.

Edit: God bless you James.

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mdr55

11-02-2004, 12:25 PM

who's winning so far????

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Tall_James

11-02-2004, 12:37 PM

who's winning so far????

The bake sales located at the school voting places.

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Tall_James

11-02-2004, 12:39 PM

GUAM GOES GAGA FOR GRAND OLD PARTY !!! (http://www.guampdn.com/news/updates/9807.html)

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mdr55

11-02-2004, 12:42 PM

GUAM GOES GAGA FOR GRAND OLD PARTY !!! (http://www.guampdn.com/news/updates/9807.html)

Damn.....my own people voted against me.

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angrymissy

11-02-2004, 12:59 PM

Guam doesn't have any electoral votes.

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FMJeff

11-02-2004, 01:18 PM

missy, you, me...guam...honeymoon...

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GodsFavoriteMan

11-02-2004, 02:13 PM

When I put in my vote for Kerry I there were no hot chicks, just old ladies working the polls. What's up with that? I'm a nurse, and I work with old ladies, I vote, and it's old ladies all around. I'm surprised my classes in school aren't filled with old ladies.

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 02:19 PM

i voted...

and i felt like a wizard behind that curtain

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NewYorkDragons80

11-02-2004, 02:24 PM

I spent about 2 minutes in the booth deciding whether or not to vote for Badnarik. Only because Bush doesn't stand a chance in NY.

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Yerdaddy

11-02-2004, 02:34 PM

I had to wait an extra hour at the polls because Mojo was trying on slacks in the booth. Always gots to be the fucking diva!

Still time to place your bets: http://www.tradesports.com/

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Heather 8

11-02-2004, 02:55 PM

Got to the polling place at 6:45 this morning, with about 50 people already in line ahead of me (polls open at 7 in my section of Wisconsin). Voted at 7:10, but then had to stand around waiting for a half hour while two elderly women tried to figure out why the machine that takes the filled-out ballots wasn't working. I don't have much faith that my vote actually counted.

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mdr55

11-02-2004, 03:05 PM

Bush- 34
Kerry-3

It's a blow out. Come on and go into the no huddle already Kerry team.

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 03:11 PM

Bush- 34
Kerry-3

looks like Kerry's holding the King of spades...

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Doctor Manhattan

11-02-2004, 03:13 PM

Bush- 34
Kerry-3

"Hello, Expedia.com? One way ticket to Canada, please.

Oh, there are 46 more states to tally? I'll call back."

And yes, i know it's stupid to call up a web site...

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TooCute

11-02-2004, 03:32 PM

It took me a total of ten minutes to drive from my house, vote, and drive home. I was lucky - there was no line at my table. The other table had a line out the door... they should all move to my street!!

Voting in my county (Suffolk) was so boring though. I think one of county justice seats had more than two (dem & rep) candidates, in addition to the presedential election. There were also only two village propositions to vote on (buy land to preserve as open space, and build a new village municiple building in what's currently a trash heap. wow, hard choices!)

Boring!

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mdr55

11-02-2004, 03:34 PM

Bush- 49
Kerry- 3

A blow out so far. So far Bush is forty-nine-ing the Kerry Team.

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GodsFavoriteMan

11-02-2004, 03:38 PM

CNN.com has 39-3, but doesn't mean much yet since the states are projected Red states anyway.

GA, WV, IN, and KY

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 03:41 PM

Red states anyway.

i'm sure you meant Redneck states

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Doctor Manhattan

11-02-2004, 03:41 PM

Where is Ron getting this info about Virginia? Early on he said CNN reported VA too close to call, then later on he got an IM Spy Report saying Kerry won VA 57/42.

Polls just closed in VA about 42 mins ago.

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GodsFavoriteMan

11-02-2004, 03:51 PM

57/42? In VA? Maybe Arlington. . .

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gypsy

11-02-2004, 03:56 PM

Will someone please tell Ron that the Governor of VA, Mark Warner, is a Democrat, so it's not unheard of for a Democrat to win the state.

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GodsFavoriteMan

11-02-2004, 03:56 PM

From CBS (290 of 2345 Precincts Reporting) VA has Bush up 57/42

Doesn't include Arlington, Prince William, or Fairfax, though.

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keithy_19

11-02-2004, 04:00 PM

kerry-78
bush-66

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Freakshow

11-02-2004, 04:00 PM

Will someone please tell Ron that the Governor of VA, Mark Warner, is a Democrat, so it's not unheard of for a Democrat to win the state.

The last time va went to the dems was 1964. governor and president are very, very different.

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mdr55

11-02-2004, 04:03 PM

Bush- 39
Kerry- 18

Kerry is making a play right now. Go Kerry Go!!!

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mdr55

11-02-2004, 04:04 PM

Bush- 50
Kerry- 30

Damn it's getting tight.

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mdr55

11-02-2004, 04:06 PM

Bush-66
Kerry-77

WTF????

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 04:11 PM

Bush-66
Kerry-77
Gore -65

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sr71blackbird

11-02-2004, 04:13 PM

Can you people please keep your political discussion in the Politics forum? Thank you.
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11-02-2004, 04:15 PM

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Mike Teacher

11-02-2004, 04:19 PM

I'm IM-ing Ron with CNN returns, and for some reasons no one there tonight can get the info to Ron any faster, and thats including SU delay. Giant Brian just announced that it is indeed election day.

Step Up!

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 04:32 PM

Florida results, in real time. (http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/20041102_SUM_PRE.html)

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 04:34 PM

I got to the polling station at about 10:35 AM, thinking I'd have plenty of time to get to work at noon...WRONG! I didn't get out and on the road until 12:25...it was damn cool seeing that many people out voting. I've never had to wait more than five minutes in the past.

The Democratic nominee for the House of Rep. was there, Socas, so I got to meet him, which was kinda cool. Don't think he stands a chance, but hey, he got my vote...

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 04:35 PM

Nader's in 3rd in Florida!

DO IT TO IT, RALPH!

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Hottub

11-02-2004, 04:38 PM

Nader's in 3rd in Florida

According to the Fox News Ticker, Nader's got 3rd locked up in all 50.

Plus Guam!!!

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Tenbatsuzen

11-02-2004, 04:45 PM

Obama 87
Keyes 11.

With a beating this bad, this black-on-black crime has got to stop!

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mdr55

11-02-2004, 04:45 PM

Nader's in 3rd in Florida

According to the Fox News Ticker, Nader's got 3rd locked up in all 50.

Plus Guam!!!

Go MDR!!!

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Freakshow

11-02-2004, 04:51 PM

according to msnbc, VA to Bush.

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Tall_James

11-02-2004, 04:52 PM

Obama 87
Keyes 11.

With a beating this bad, this black-on-black crime has got to stop!

Brilliant!

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Freakshow

11-02-2004, 05:16 PM

Bush has Tennessee, Wyoming, and Indiana. He's swept the vice presidential states. He's got North Carolina, too--Edward's state.

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Tenbatsuzen

11-02-2004, 05:23 PM

Bush has Tennessee, Wyoming, and Indiana. He's swept the vice presidential states. He's got North Carolina, too--Edward's state.

Wipe them out... all of them.

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 05:28 PM

Bush 171
Kerry 112

Damn this is getting interesting.

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11-02-2004, 05:30 PM

FNC is reporting Bush 165 Kerry 112

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11-02-2004, 05:34 PM

holy shit, Nader looks like Hell!

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 05:35 PM

FNC is reporting Bush 165 Kerry 112

MSNBC reported the 171 number

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torker

11-02-2004, 05:48 PM

Aljazeera ~ too close to call

a dead heat

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 05:50 PM

here we go again!

Florida too close to call as polls close after long lines and some glitches

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041103/ts_alt_afp/us_vote_florida_041103020148

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BoondockSaint

11-02-2004, 06:01 PM

Chuck Floyd is getting his ass kicked.

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Freakshow

11-02-2004, 06:18 PM

Damn this is getting interesting.

Actually quite the opposite. It's getting quite boring.

edit: and chuck floyd is winning his congressional seat.

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BoondockSaint

11-02-2004, 06:27 PM

and chuck floyd is winning his congressional seat.

Van Hollen
(Incumbent)
96,652

Floyd
32,874

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 06:28 PM

It's getting quite boring.

It's more fun when you're playing GTA San Andreas at the same time.

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keithy_19

11-02-2004, 06:35 PM

Bush 193

Kerry 112

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Freakshow

11-02-2004, 06:36 PM

I must have been looking at old results. 13 hour work days will do that to a person.

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 06:42 PM

Florida numbers

Percent
Reporting 79.2%

Bush
2,949,637
51.6%

Kerry
2,718,531
47.6%

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reeshy

11-02-2004, 06:45 PM

So..the way I see it....Bush has won....thank God I have my own body armor!!!!!!!

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 06:49 PM

Not just yet, it'll get a lot closer after California's polls close.

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keithy_19

11-02-2004, 06:56 PM

Bush 193

Kerry 133

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 06:56 PM

Kerry wins PA, that plus California will bring him to 188 to Bush's 193.

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11-02-2004, 07:00 PM

Bush leads in Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin. He doesn't need much more than those and Florida to win.

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11-02-2004, 07:02 PM

That plus a New Mexico victory would be great.

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reeshy

11-02-2004, 07:03 PM

It;s Bush....219
Kerry.....199

this baby is gonna be close

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reeshy

11-02-2004, 07:20 PM

Well .....NJ voted for Kerry!!!!!!!!!!!

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11-02-2004, 07:21 PM

Schumer won again....I voted for him... I always liked him!!!!!

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 07:22 PM

NADER'S ON CNN!

HE'LL SAVE US ALL!

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BoondockSaint

11-02-2004, 07:23 PM

I voted for Mo Vaughn!

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He ran on the Pork Chop platform and I'm all for it. UMMMMMMMMMMMM Pork Chops.

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 07:23 PM

looks like OHIO is gonna be closest make/break state

20 electoral votes / 54% counted

Bush 52%
Kerry 48%

got to get down to it, soldiers are coming on strong

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 07:24 PM

Good for Shumer, I voted for him too.

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keithy_19

11-02-2004, 07:25 PM

I'm watching Fox News because their graphics are much more pleasing to the eye. They also seem to be a lot less prone to calling things until they are really sure.

Bush-210

Kerry-144

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 07:27 PM

CNN.com has Bush at 210 for at least the past 10 minutes while the TV has him at 197

What The! does the right hand know what the left hand is doing?

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 07:27 PM

Looks like Bush is going to win Ohio and Florida. (so far)

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 07:28 PM

LOOKS like he'll win Florida?

He's been winning by a 200,000 vote margin (Now 300,000) for well over an hour.

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reeshy

11-02-2004, 07:28 PM

I'm watdhing channel 7 new...everytine they go to the NY results ....they cut it off...is this a conspiracy???? Now I'm scared!!!!!!

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 07:30 PM

Okay fine Mojo. Then I'm going to declare Bush as the winner of Florida with 95% of the precints reporting.

You heard it here first folks. I called it.

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 07:31 PM

nothing to see here

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grandzu

11-02-2004, 07:37 PM

Suspiciously a few of the networks are saying it could end up being a 269-269 tie and anything can happen then. All hell will break loose...

Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 07:40 PM

CBS's website is reporting that Bush won Colorado.

Map (http://election.cbsnews.com/election2004/)

Bringing it to 219 Bush to 199 Kerry

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11-02-2004, 07:41 PM

now CNN.com has Bush back at 197

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 07:42 PM

It's amazing how the numbers radically vary from network to network.

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11-02-2004, 07:44 PM

go to channel 4///they say Kerry hass 199 electoral votes...chaneel 7 says he has 188 votes....what the fuck?????

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 07:45 PM

go to channel 4///they say Kerry hass 199 electoral votes...chaneel 7 says he has 188 votes....what the fuck?????

And Fox says he has 144....this is so fucked up.

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11-02-2004, 07:47 PM

ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/) website says its 237 Bush to Kerry's 188. They're giving Florida to Bush.

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Reephdweller

11-02-2004, 07:55 PM

WASHINGTON, Nov. 2 (UPI) -- White House sources are telling UPI that they believe George W. Bush will win Ohio and be re-elected president of the United States.

I'm not going to believe this until it's official. However Bush's white house is telling him he will win Ohio and ultimately the presidency. We'll see...

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashbw.htm

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reeshy

11-02-2004, 07:56 PM

I give up...now I'm watching"Serpico"

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 08:02 PM

OHIO better fucking wake up!

they lost more jobs than anyone

tin soldiers and nixons coming, we're finally on our own

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Tazz

11-02-2004, 08:05 PM

I don't see how job losses are the president's direct fault. Maybe Ohio is wise enough to see that.

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 08:08 PM

I don't see how job losses are the president's direct fault. Maybe Ohio is wise enough to see that.

come on! you want to have a president that has 0 accountability

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reeshy

11-02-2004, 08:15 PM

Channel 2 says:

Bush-246
Kerry- 207

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11-02-2004, 08:15 PM

gross....this is just dirty...

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mdr55

11-02-2004, 08:16 PM

It's over. Nothing to see here anymore. George W. Bush is going to win his 2nd term as President of the United States. What pisses me of is that the news coverage is asking questions like "How will the president unite the country after this bitter election?". Why the fuck are you asking that? Did Bush unite the country after he won his first term as president. Hell's no--what makes you think he is going to change now. The only good thing about him being president again is that he won't have anyone to blame for his mistakes he will be making.........oh wait....I forgot Bush never makes mistakes and it's never his fault when things go wrong. The hillbillies have one of there own in the white house. But what do you expect from the South and the Midwest, bunch of hicks and rednecks.

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furie

11-02-2004, 08:20 PM

wow. bitter much?

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11-02-2004, 08:22 PM

fucking Ohio, i hope that state falls into the fucking lake

:)

what are you gonna do?

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furie

11-02-2004, 08:26 PM

But what do you expect from the South and the Midwest, bunch of hicks and rednecks.

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reeshy

11-02-2004, 08:31 PM

Shut up, Jeff...it's not dirty...the better man won!!!!! Sorry if your Liberal, lying candidate didn't win!!!!

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Recyclerz

11-02-2004, 08:39 PM

OK. I'll be the first liberal on the board to give up. With all the money we raised, with all the people who volunteered time and effort and with a candidate who has as horrible a record (as I believe) George W. Bush has, for him to be running as strongly as he is and likely to win the popular vote, it is obvious to me that I'm not seeing the same reality as the majority of the people of this country. If the Democrats can't win this election it is going to be a long time (if ever) before they win another.

So, I guess I stipulate that Jesus loves us more than anybody; we should be able to invade anybody who pisses us off; that we can cut taxes to 0% and nothing bad will happen; abortion should be illegal, pollution only culls the herd and makes the survivors stronger and a lot of other things I'll probably think of tomorrow.

So for now I'll take my tax cuts and retire to the study to deliberate whether I want the Northeast to secede or whether I'll be working on a states rights manifesto for liberal secularists.

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furie

11-02-2004, 08:43 PM

i think it's very likely that the Democrats could win in 4 years. People will probably be ready for a change after 8 years of Bush, and I don't see many strong GOP candidates down the road. As long as the Democrats don't run a hump like Kerry again, they could win.

"Anyone but Bush" isn't good enough. The candidate himself has to have substance.

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grandzu

11-02-2004, 08:43 PM

Bush maybe winning saddens and angers me...Mad that he won and sad that people are foolish enough to vote for him.
Bush supporters do it because 1. He mentions God whenever he can and 2. They relate to his simple minded thinking.
There goes the country...Again.

FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 08:46 PM

I have a viewpoint that the main reason Bush won is people are afraid of terrorists...

which has only proved that the terrorists are winning

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Tazz

11-02-2004, 08:46 PM

I don't even believe in god, and I vote Bush. It has nothing to do with that. I vote for who I feel can better protect this country and keeps the most money in my pocket.

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furie

11-02-2004, 08:50 PM

I'm virtually an atheist. Why do you think God entered into my decision?

But if it makes you feel better about yourself to think of half the country as simply minded, then go ahead.

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 08:52 PM

Man, it's pretty insulting when you're called "foolish" just because of who you vote for...and apparently that's all the Democrats are good at (Nader voter 2000, WHUT!!!) besides losing.

Look at it this way, no matter which side you fall on...think of how much you absolutely hate the guy being run by the other side. Imagine how much you're against EVERYTHING he stands for, and can't wait to see him fail. Now realize that the people on the other side think THE EXACT SAME WAY ABOUT YOUR GUY. People aren't "foolish" or "stupid" just because they vote for the opposing candidate to "your guy"...it's their choice because they hate YOUR guy just as much as you hate THEIR guy.

Got it?

How is one side any more foolish than the other?

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 08:54 PM

fucking Ohio!

oh wait, did i say that already

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 09:00 PM

just in case nobody's mentioned it

fucking Ohio!

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 09:06 PM

Can't WAIT to see the flailing and excuse-making of the Democrats this time.

And I say this as someone who wants DESPERATELY to be a proud Democrat.

2000...they run the the VP of the incumbent administration...an administration with a president leaving office with an approval rating basically in the 70's(!!!!!!!) and leaving behind 8 years of peace and economic prosperity...and they FUCKING LOSE. Yet all they can do is bitch and cry about Florida, or Nader, or hanging chads, or confusing ballots...AND DON'T MENTION ONCE THAT THEY COULDN'T WIN THE HOME STATES OF EITHER THE PRESIDENT OR THE VICE PRESIDENT. They seemingly don't stop to consider the ridiculous problem of such a scenario.

Now, four years later, they should have the White House handed to them on a silver platter thanks to one of the worst presidents we've had in our nation's history, and the BEST candidate they can decide on is JOHN F. KERRY, and the BEST he can do is barely keep pace with Bush, if that.

Who are they gonna blame this time? Well, according to some of the posts I've seen here, and on boards elsewhere and blogs, "stupid voters." Yet AGAIN the problem isn't with the party's lack of identity, or scattershot and inconsistent policies, or wishy-washy candidates...no, it must be EVERYONE ELSE'S fault except themselves.

What a goddamn mess of a party.

The Republicans used their 8 years of Reagan to strengthen their base and focus their party. Republicans of ALL colors, from those on the fence to those waaaaaaaaaaaay off to the insane Right, can easily find someone or something in the party that represents them, and allows them to vote for the Elephant with confidence and resolution. They know what they're doing.

The Democrats completely squandered their 8 years of Clinton, COMPLETELY losing their identity, pandering ONLY to the middle for the sake of staying in office, and are basically a united party in name only. They represent essentially nobody, and only parts and bits and pieces of various causes and issues. If they're smart, they'd shut up and dig their heels in, stand what little ground they have left over the next four years, and DRASTICALLY re-evaluate how this party is going to continue in the 21st Century, because at this point they represent nothing, nobody and will ultimately know nothing but defeat for the forseeable future.

Fuck "vote or die."

CHANGE or die.

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grandzu

11-02-2004, 09:08 PM

I base my decisions on facts not emotions and all facts say that Bush is a liar. He is not trustworthy. He is not intelligent. He is not making the correct decisons.
He says things for soundbyte purposes but does the opposite. People eagerly swallow and believe the sound byte and refuse to believe the truth when it comes out months later hidden under fluff, denials, and misdirections.
He and his whole administration found loopholes and connections to avoid service in Vietnam.
How can he keep us safe when 9/11 already happened under his watch?

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Tazz

11-02-2004, 09:10 PM

Strangely, I agree with Mojo. If the Democrats put up a better candidate, I would have considered voting for him. But when you have a guy that claims to have many many "plans" but never shares ANY of them, then I'd rather stick with the guy who, like him or not, says what he means.

And, I fucking hate New England. I have to move soon.

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furie

11-02-2004, 09:10 PM

let it go. cobain killed himself.

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 09:11 PM

We have enough threads the break down the faults of Kerry and Bush in GREAT detail.

Keep this one to discussion/debate of the election itself, or the electoral process.

Thanks.

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furie

11-02-2004, 09:11 PM

I too agree with Mojo. I would have voted for Lieberman.

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 09:14 PM

I vote for who I feel can better protect this country and keeps the most money in my pocket.

Tazz,

not trying to bust your stones

with regard to "protect the country" the worst terrorist attack this country has experienced was under his watch. and it was later found out that there was evidence 'which he knew of' to indicate such an attack may occur

i don't get your reasoning on this

would you not have more faith in someone who actually participated in war instead of avoiding it?

"money in your pocket" at what expense to others? the deficit has gone from balanced to minus 7.8 trillion. more people in poverty while more money was given to the wealthiest americans with the highest tax cut

60% of people who found employment since Bush has been in office has been for lower salaries than they had prior while their cost of living has significantly increased

i'm not saying Kerry is a guarantee to turn things around but you can't say most Americans are better off than they were 4 years ago

do you hold Bush accountable for anything?

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Tazz

11-02-2004, 09:15 PM

I probably would have voted for Dean. Cest la vie.

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furie

11-02-2004, 09:16 PM

They're putting Ohio in the bush column. that gives him 269. but I think it's too early and too close to call. This is how things got fucked last time.

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 09:17 PM

Funk, keep the debates over the candidates to the other kajillion threads covering such things.

This one is for the election!

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HBox

11-02-2004, 09:19 PM

Tomorrow's headline: "The Democratic Party was just ass-raped."

He won. He got a majority of the vote. I am just gonna suck it up and pray, and everyone else who voted against Bush just better do the same thing. Might as well get used to praying anyway, it's probably gonna be mandatory in 2 years.

Everybody was saying how Karl Rove was stupid for courting the religious right. But he was right. According to NBC, the biggest issue for voters from exit polls was "Moral Values" and Bush won 80% of that vote. That's what won Ohio.

And the Democrats deserve it. I've tried to convince myself that Kerry was the guy and I almost did at certain points. But I should have known.

So now I am gonna plead with everybody: Can we please all calm down? Can we all just realize we were all so worked up because the stakes were so high and we believed in different ways to solve the problem? Can we, in the future, not equate criticism with treason? Can we stop calling each other stupid? Can we just band together to conquer the problems this nation faces? And can some of us just accept what happened tonight?

Please?

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furie

11-02-2004, 09:20 PM

i can't believe betty castor is running for a senate seat in FL. she was the president of USF, my college. That woman is evil.

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HBox

11-02-2004, 09:24 PM

BTW, it looks like Daschle's gonna lose too. The Democrats were just fucking castrated.

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 09:25 PM

fucking Florida!

:)

yes i concede! i am a beaten man

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furie

11-02-2004, 09:27 PM

this was not as close as I thought it would be.

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Tazz

11-02-2004, 09:28 PM

This isn't even going the way I thought it would since Friday.

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 09:29 PM

fucking Texas!

:)

Okay! i'm conceding right now

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11-02-2004, 09:29 PM

http://www.myimgs.com/data/hbox/Hillary.jpg

woo..........hoo.........

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 09:31 PM

If the Democrats want NOTHING to change, and further their own destruction...they'll run THAT thing...

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JPMNICK

11-02-2004, 09:31 PM

this is not looking good for the dems, looks like republicans will have the majority is everything

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furie

11-02-2004, 09:31 PM

i wouldn't be surprised if hillary ran in '08.

Same goes for Jeb in my book.

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HBox

11-02-2004, 09:32 PM

A very small sliver of good news in a dark night. I think even Bush voters will agree this is a good thing. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6384390/)

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shamus mcfitzy

11-02-2004, 09:34 PM

don't mean to offend, furie, but as a technical Democrat (i'm registered as such) i don't want your kind. :)
If Lieberman got the nomination I would be ready to vote Bush as only a statement of not wanting to vote for a wolf in a wool coat over just a wolf.

And I know this doesn't work as a social statement, but I didn't vote. Couln't considering the fact that I couldn't find someone to vote for in any election. I hate Schumer, am represented less by any local politician than I am by Kerry even, and could not choose the lesser of like 5 evils.

Don't want to vote for Kerry, wouldn't vote for Bush, Bednarik might actually eat babies (although you should've voted for him NYDragons), Nader is running as a Reform candidate which defeats my purpose of giving a legit third party money, and Cobb is..........who is Cobb?

JPMNICK

11-02-2004, 09:34 PM

The stem stell thing is def. a good thing, and i hope this is one of the things that the rest of the country adopts for california.

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shamus mcfitzy

11-02-2004, 09:38 PM

Pull back that concession Funk!!!! Pull it back!!!!!!!

Kerry is actually gaining quick in Ohio

i think NBC's deficit for Kerry went from 250,000 votes at 80% to 100,000 at 91%.

{Howard Dean YEEEHAW}

even though i think it would be kinda funny and sitcomish to have a Bush-Edwards presidency and it could actually be better than any of the partisan choices.

HBox

11-02-2004, 09:39 PM

http://www.myimgs.com/data/hbox/Obama.jpg

You'll find out..........

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11-02-2004, 09:40 PM

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Freakshow

11-02-2004, 09:41 PM

Looks like Crippler wins the Last Day thread with his Bush 275.

Whoa, Pete Coors was running for senate in Colorado.

And lost.

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11-02-2004, 09:43 PM

yea i heard Tom Molsen took it.

BTW, this Ohio thing is coming up closer than people had thought earlier. it may be this years florida.

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11-02-2004, 09:44 PM

fucking Crippler!

:)

just kidding!

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HBox

11-02-2004, 09:47 PM

Look people. Kerry lost. There was a huge turnout today, and Bush took a majority of the vote. 51%. Deal with it. Even though the electoral college will still be close no matter what happens with Ohio, this was as decisive a win as was gonna happen.

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11-02-2004, 09:47 PM

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You'll find out..........

How much did you win by? Pssssh.

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JPMNICK

11-02-2004, 09:50 PM

i am glad bush won the popular and electoral vote. I could not take four more years of that tired arguement.

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whoopsy

11-02-2004, 10:01 PM

So now I am gonna plead with everybody: Can we please all calm down? Can we all just realize we were all so worked up because the stakes were so high and we believed in different ways to solve the problem? Can we, in the future, not equate criticism with treason? Can we stop calling each other stupid? Can we just band together to conquer the problems this nation faces? And can some of us just accept what happened tonight?

i doubt it, bro..

tough fuckin' election, huh. I will agree that the Democrats really have their work cut out for them. Bush was very beatable year.

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11-02-2004, 10:03 PM

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whoopsy

11-02-2004, 10:04 PM

by the way, did you know 26% of all registered voters nationally are evangelical Christians?

this may be my first wild generalization on the board, but these people are fucking crazy... that number scares me a lot.

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FUNKMAN

11-02-2004, 10:05 PM

anyone have any alka seltzer? or crack

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Tenbatsuzen

11-02-2004, 10:07 PM

Can't WAIT to see the flailing and excuse-making of the Democrats this time.

Fuck "vote or die."

CHANGE or die.

Mojo....

Bra-fucking-vo. Let's hug.

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Tenbatsuzen

11-02-2004, 10:10 PM

BTW, in Idaho, somebody named "Crapo" won. NICE.

Re: Barack Obama. You know, Jack Ryan shoulda really stayed in the race.

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11-02-2004, 10:13 PM

Goodnight All!

To all Bush supporters: Congratulations!!

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 10:18 PM

Can't WAIT to see the flailing and excuse-making of the Democrats this time.

Fuck "vote or die."

CHANGE or die.

Mojo....

Bra-fucking-vo. Let's hug.

"Let's hug it up, bitch."

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HBox

11-02-2004, 10:19 PM

It looks like right now that Republicans will pick up 5 House seat and 5!!!!!! Senate seats.

An absolute gang rape.

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TheMojoPin

11-02-2004, 10:28 PM

Don't the Democrats still have House majority?

And what the fuck good was John Edwards?

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HBox

11-02-2004, 10:37 PM

And if Kerry drags this thing out too long, he is just driving the last nail into the Democrats coffin. And that nail is already 80% in.

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ChickenHawk

11-02-2004, 10:44 PM

This election ain't over yet. They're saying Ohio is "the next Florida." This thing can go another 2 weeks again...

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shamus mcfitzy

11-02-2004, 10:52 PM

As I said and ChickenHawk confirmed, Kerry was gaining quick. Now it doesn't appear so anymore, but he was goddamn it!!!!

I feel guilty for not voting Nader, he looks like he's on his deathbed (even more so than his decrepid running mate)

And CNN is saying that John Henry, the lesbian (that's not a lesbian?) owner of the SAWX, is lending out his private plane for Democratic lawyers to fly wherever they need to.

Ndugu

11-02-2004, 11:13 PM

i love the smell of liberal whining in the morning, smells like, victory

"What are you liberals, on dope?"

shamus mcfitzy

11-02-2004, 11:28 PM

what liberal is whining? Really I may be re-using this, but it just comes off like you stumbled in and thought to post something bad about liberals. I think its been done.

And if you're speaking of me, I don't really care either way. I'll learn German and run for the Deustchtagg (wow totally blanking if that is the name of one of the legislatures) before I ever nitpick on the differences between Kerry and Bush.

WRESTLINGFAN

11-02-2004, 11:44 PM

What are the Dems going to say now?It looks like Bush will win the electoral and POPULAR vote

FIRE SATHER!!!!!!!

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11-03-2004, 12:12 AM

I guess he's popular and electoral!!!!

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Doctor Manhattan

11-03-2004, 02:14 AM

What pisses me of is that the news coverage is asking questions like "How will the president unite the country after this bitter election?". Why the fuck are you asking that? Did Bush unite the country after he won his first term as president.

Sadly, 9/11 united the country more than any public offical in I don't know how long.

What are the Dems going to say now?It looks like Bush will win the electoral and POPULAR vote

At least he won the position, once.

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Reephdweller

11-03-2004, 02:32 AM

Damn, even Tom Daschle (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041103/ap_on_el_se/eln_senate_rdp&cid=536&ncid=536) lost.

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A.J.

11-03-2004, 02:38 AM

Don't the Democrats still have House majority?

Negative. The GOP ADDED to their majority in the House AND the Senate. They knocked off the Senate Minority Leader -- that's amazing.

The most interesting stat I heard: the Democrats have not been able to get more than 50% of the popular vote in a Presidential election since 1976.

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Reephdweller

11-03-2004, 02:55 AM

Opie put it best this morning when he said what an embarassment this is for all the celebrities, Howard Stern, and Michael Moore and all the others who pulled out all the stops to defeat Bush and instead end up losing the popular vote so badly that it's an all time record.

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11-03-2004, 03:23 AM

Where can I find this picture in its original form?

Chicken Hawk has been reading my mind.

...and Whoopsy, is that you? Borat say nice!

Onto the election, sure I am dissapointed that the blithering idiot has been re-elecected. I dealt with the last 4 years, I can deal with 4 more. I mean how much more could he possibly screw things up. I dare not think too hard on this one but how bad could it actually get.

You know, I can't help but think about it and to be honest, I am quite scared now. Mostly for my Grandparents and the hell they will have to face with healthcare.

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furie

11-03-2004, 03:45 AM

at least Ohio's making Florida look good.

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alexc

11-03-2004, 03:47 AM

time for new york and the rest of the north east to secede

Doctor Manhattan

11-03-2004, 04:19 AM

as of about 8:00 am:

CNN.com, news.yahoo.com, washingtontimes.com, LA Dailynews.com, LAtimes.com, USAToday.com : Bush 254 / Kerry 252

ABCnews.com, CBSnews.com, washingtonpost.com : Bush 254 / Kerry 242

Foxnews.com: Bush 269 / Kerry 242

msnbc.com: Bush 269 / Kerry 238

nytimes.com: Bush 249 / Kerry 242

So, why the different figures at this point?

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Reephdweller

11-03-2004, 04:25 AM

It really is funny how one news organization is looking at it one way and another is looking another way. It appears that Bush will win though no one is willing to say it just yet, and I have no problem with them taking the time to make certain that when they do call the winner that that person is the actual winner. Instead of just calling something because things seem to go one way over another. I don't want a repeat of 4 years ago, however I think if it takes a day or two to sort this out then let's do it and be done with it.

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El Mudo

11-03-2004, 04:31 AM

If the Democratic party keeps on thinking the answers to all its problems are to keep sliding further and further to the left...stuff like this is gonna keep on happening...

....the blue dog Democrat is DEAD...

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11-03-2004, 04:39 AM

The only thing I hope comes out of this is that maybe now all these celebrities will finally get it that we really don't need their input on how we should or shouldn't vote. I don't care what Ben Affleck thinks, I don't care what Ted Nugent thinks, or the Barbara Steisand's, or Michael Moore's, or whoever else. I think it should be a wake up call to them that they have absolutely no influence on people and that they should stick to what they do best.

Which isn't to suggest they aren't entitled to their opinion on things. But rather that they have their air about themselves that they are so much more important than they really are and they need to get over themselves.

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JPMNICK

11-03-2004, 04:49 AM

we need a thread called Official 2004 Election Day After Thread.

This is going to become a lawyers election today.

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NewYorkDragons80

11-03-2004, 05:00 AM

My man Jim Garner lost. It was a rough night at headquarters. Fuck you, Carolyn. You haven't heard the last of us!

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JPMNICK

11-03-2004, 05:11 AM

BTW reef i def. agree with you about the celebs. I will be so happy to watch them all fucking eat it.

I wonder if we will ever see a stat on how many under 25 voted, and which party they voted for.

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42nd-delay

11-03-2004, 05:19 AM

I'm going to take back my comment since it seems like Ohio's not decided yet, even though Bush is going to claim it is. Once again, the "rule of law party" decides that it doesn't need to let the process follow through to its conclusion.

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Mike Teacher

11-03-2004, 05:21 AM

BTW, this Ohio thing is coming up closer than people had thought earlier. it may be this years florida.

I cant imagine a court wanting this, even touching this. The Supreme Court wants nothing to do with this; Ohio has told the lawyers to back off, and let us do our thing; even if it takes 10 days to validate and count.

Fuck the lawyers; I'll trust the peeps of Ohio for now.

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Reephdweller

11-03-2004, 05:24 AM

I would definitely like to see a breakout of the vote from the under 25's, from blacks to whites as well. It may just be that Kerry won with them, but I'd like to see idiots like P Diddy with their absolutely horrid "Vote or Die" campaign eat it.

I'd also like to see a comparison with that group from 2000 and 2004 to see if they made any real difference at all.

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11-03-2004, 05:31 AM

He cheated us before, he'll cheat us again this time.

Lousy cubans in Florida... republicans???.. Sheesh, no wonder your country is the way it is.. LONG LIVE FIDEL!

Congratulations to the Bush voters and supporters.. $4.00 gallon of gas in the very near future, ruin our environment + economy, major terrorist attacks in the US, having an idiot as a leader... Thank You hillbilly states...

This shows how backwards we are and this again is another incredibly stupid decision.. 1st, the war, 2nd relect Bush... :mad:

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11-03-2004, 05:31 AM

For me, this is the worst possible outcome. Bush winning the popular and electoral vote speaks of an American mindset that I don't agree with in the slightest. I don't see how Kerry can pick up 150,000 votes in Ohio. We are doomed.

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curtoid

11-03-2004, 05:32 AM

If the Democratic party keeps on thinking the answers to all its problems are to keep sliding further and further to the left...stuff like this is gonna keep on happening...

....the blue dog Democrat is DEAD...

Who is thinking THAT?! If anything, one of the problems with the Democrats in 2002 and this year is that they have tried to out Republican the Republicans - the "Liberal" died with Paul Wellstone, except in the Karl Rove created echo chamber.

What are the Dems going to say now?It looks like Bush will win the electoral and POPULAR vote

That wasn't the over-arcing issue in 2000. Sure it was a bitter pill for many to swallow (imagine if Ohio had gone to Kerry by a margin of 500 votes, and Bush held the popular vote numbers? Actually it would be even worse now, because Bush is going to get one of the most decisive wins in the popular vote - and still he could have lost the Presidency) - but the thing to remember is that both camps sign onto the whole concept of electoral college to begin with, so the complaining in 2000 was more for what a nightmare Florida turned out to be.

And then Nader...and then Gore getting pushed and pulled from the middle (the only real moderate that has fucking run for President in forever!)...and the media...there was a lot for people to be cranky about in 2000.

we need a thread called Official 2004 Election Day After Thread.

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Freakshow

11-03-2004, 05:34 AM

ABCnews.com, CBSnews.com, washingtonpost.com : Bush 254 / Kerry 242

Foxnews.com: Bush 269 / Kerry 242

msnbc.com: Bush 269 / Kerry 238

nytimes.com: Bush 249 / Kerry 242

How is he going to unite the country? He can't even unite the news services.

I was watching when Fox called ohio, and it wasn't much longer until NBC called it as well. Everyone else hasn't yet--probably gunshy from '00. I was watching the msnbc online while I was still at work and they were confusing the hell out of me with Cali. They had added it to the electoral votes but not put it on the map as blue. I kept adding up MD, NY, IL, NJ over and over again, and it was nowhere near 199. Confused the hell out of me.

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11-03-2004, 05:38 AM

He cheated us before, he'll cheat us again this time.

I don't understand how anyone can call cheating at this point? Bush won the popular vote by close to 4 million votes last time I checked. As far as what's going on in Ohio, I think this whole process will be very closely watched and nothing up to this point suggests otherwise.

Now as far as voter fraud and things like that go, I can say from a personal standpoint that a number of people I know who have voted in many elections in the same polling places had problems this time around where the polling place had no record of them. I also heard this on the radio as well. I know there is a number to call to report this for investigation and people need to do this because something is wrong as far as that goes and it needs to investigated. If it turns out one campaign or another in involved in tampering with this then there will be a problem.

However as it stands now it's just a close election in certain states and I think we should wait until all the tabulations are complete before we start bantering about cheating at this stage in the game.

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42nd-delay

11-03-2004, 05:51 AM

A bit of a rant, might seem harsh, but...

It seems unlikely Kerry will pull this one off, though I'm not ready to give up. But if Bush is elected, we're really screwed. The irony is that many of the people who decided this election voted for Bush based on terrorism, something that will never directly effect most red staters but would definitely occur in all the cities that voted for Kerry. Thanks to the vote of people in the South and Midwest, the people of NY, DC, Chicago and LA are all in more danger.

Ironically, among those who voted for Bush, the economy wasn't a big issue, despite the fact that many people in the Midwest and South will be affected by that issue.

The most depressing thing was how many people voted based on "moral issues" and how every state that had a "ban same sex marriage" amendment on the ballot saw it passed. With Bush in office and the Supreme Court to have a few new justices soon, the people who want to ban abortion and write discrimination into the Constitution will likely see their moral agenda supported by the government. And society will take a collective step backwards.

I'm quite depressed and angry today. I feel like we're in a great deal of trouble as a nation.

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