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Doctor Manhattan
11-01-2004, 10:35 AM
<a href="http://www.imdb.com/news//wenn/#3">from IMDB "news"

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Ben Affleck has made an astonishing swipe at long-term pal, director Kevin Smith - accusing him of exploiting teenage fans of his cult films. Affleck has appeared in five of Smith's films, starting with 1995's Mallrats and most recently this year's Jersey Girl. But Smith was reportedly upset Affleck snubbed the DVD launch of Jersey Girl - and Affleck has hit back while publicizing new movie Surviving Christmas. He told The Scoop, "It wasn't enough that I went to Vegas to play in his lame charity poker tournament for the DVD launch of Jersey Girl, but I also had to go out to his f***ing store where he's opening a store where all he's doing is selling more T-shirts of him and his jacka** friend (Jason Mewes) and he's roped in an entire generation of kids into thinking it's worth spending $30 on and $50 if he signs it. I mean the whole thing is a complete travesty and he wanted me to participate in it and I won't do that."


Is Ben joking? I just watched the Jersey Girl DVD over the weekend and after listening to the commentary (there are 2, one with Kevin and Ben, the other with Keving, Jason Mewes and Scott Mosier. Jason and the story's of Liv Tyler and LOTR are great) And the Ben/Kevin interview I can't see why there would be bad blood.

Ben even jokes around about Kevin's store (Says he sounds like that QVC guy, selling Bookends with Kevin's visage on it. "$80. It's porcelain!")


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11-01-2004, 10:37 AM
Ben Affleck is the male Sandra Bullock! Die already!!

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11-01-2004, 10:38 AM
I guess when you're career is absolutely in the shitter (and the bitch who will marry absolutely ANYBODY, won't marry you, but 5 months later will marry some midget spanish guy) you gotta try and drag down the people that helped to build you up to where you once got to.

Fuck you Ben Affleck, you shitty acting cocksucker.




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Doctor Manhattan
11-01-2004, 10:40 AM
Fuck you Ben Affleck, you shitty acting cocksucker.

He actually shows some promise in Dogma and even Jersey Girl. Man he cries like a bitch in that one.

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11-01-2004, 10:42 AM
ahh, nevermind.


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ChickenHawk
11-01-2004, 10:43 AM
I don't buy it. They've been friends for so long, it would not surprise me at all if it were just a gag that they're both in on.

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11-01-2004, 10:43 AM
Remember those asshole Red Sox fans that were talked about in the World Series thread? This guy is one of them.

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11-01-2004, 10:47 AM
The only movies I can think of that Affleck was actually good in were Kevin Smith films. Without Smith his career sucks.

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Iamnotatool
11-01-2004, 10:49 AM
Remember those asshole Red Sox fans that were talked about in the World Series thread?



No, I only remember talking about asshole Yankee fans.

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11-01-2004, 11:00 AM
Ben Affleck is the male Sandra Bullock! Die already!!

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TheMojoPin
11-01-2004, 11:15 AM
"where he's opening a store where all he's doing is selling more T-shirts of him and his jacka** friend (Jason Mewes) and he's roped in an entire generation of kids into thinking it's worth spending $30 on and $50 if he signs it."

That's a bitch way to trounce someone who is supposedly a good friend...but he is pretty much spot-on with that little bit up there.

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scorpion
11-01-2004, 12:54 PM
Hey Stupid.

Way to go and add another nail the coffin of your acting career.

dumb ass..




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Doctor Manhattan
11-01-2004, 12:59 PM
I don't buy it. They've been friends for so long, it would not surprise me at all if it were just a gag that they're both in on.

That makes sense. Ben was goofing on Kevin's store (He just opened up a second in LA, his first being in Redbank, NJ and seen in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back as Banky's Comic Store) in the Jersey Girl DVD

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BooBooKittyFuck
11-01-2004, 01:06 PM
ben is just jealous because kevin smith is always going to be more successful than him.

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Iamnotatool
11-01-2004, 01:14 PM
I doubt Kevin ever did or ever will get $20million or so to act in a movie.

Granted, Affleck sucks, I'm not a fan, but you can't say he's not as successful as Kevin Smith. Apples and oranges. Kevin Smith never got an Oscar, either.

Plus, Armeggedon (sp?) rocked.



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mikeyboy
11-01-2004, 01:17 PM
ben is just jealous because kevin smith is always going to be more successful than him.


Doubt it. Both have careers on the downturn right now.

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GodsFavoriteMan
11-01-2004, 01:26 PM
Oh I don't know, one bad movie does not a downturn make. (I'm speaking of Kevin Smith). And I really didn't think Jay and Silent Bob was a bad movie on it's own merits. I mean it was successful enough. But Ben Affleck, he's having serious troubles picking good movies. I honestly don't think he's a horrible actor, but there are a limited amount of roles he can play, and not enough scripts that work within his range.

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mikeyboy
11-01-2004, 01:35 PM
Smith has never really had a hit, and his one attempt to move beyond the pigeonholed View Askewniverse was a big steaming turd.

Also, while all of his movies have their moments, not one of Smith's has, in my opinion, really been a great movie from beginning to end.


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NewYorkDragons80
11-01-2004, 01:40 PM
Ben Affleck has made an astonishing swipe at long-term pal, director Kevin Smith - accusing him of exploiting teenage fans of his cult films. Affleck has appeared in five of Smith's films, starting with 1995's Mallrats and most recently this year's Jersey Girl. But Smith was reportedly upset Affleck snubbed the DVD launch of Jersey Girl - and Affleck has hit back while publicizing new movie Surviving Christmas. He told The Scoop, "It wasn't enough that I went to Vegas to play in his lame charity poker tournament for the DVD launch of Jersey Girl, but I also had to go out to his f***ing store where he's opening a store where all he's doing is selling more T-shirts of him and his jacka** friend (Jason Mewes) and he's roped in an entire generation of kids into thinking it's worth spending $30 on and $50 if he signs it. I mean the whole thing is a complete travesty and he wanted me to participate in it and I won't do that."
I'll put my money on Ben Affleck joking.

Each one has stuck his neck out for the other at least once. I don't see bad blood over something as trivial as this.

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grlNIN
11-01-2004, 01:47 PM
All his movies are overrated, who really gives a shit.

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11-01-2004, 01:55 PM
i liked daredevil, for what it's worth


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FMJeff
11-01-2004, 02:02 PM
Affleck is right, but he's a prick for doing this publically.

Missy and I went to the Kevin Smith store in red bank...it's horribly overpriced crap...

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11-01-2004, 02:05 PM
The blueprint poster that was in Mallrats is like $20.

Tshirts start at $30.

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Justice4all
11-01-2004, 02:36 PM
Sounds to me like Ben and Kevin need to get on the phone and talk to each other.

And for Affleck to make it sound like it was an EFFORT to go to Vegas to gamble for his friends charity is laughable. This guy is one step away from being Cecil Fielder.
Sorry I call foul on Affleck.
Yes maybe Smith does market a little too much but he still is, in my opinon, a good writer and director.

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Doctor Manhattan
11-01-2004, 05:15 PM
I doubt Kevin ever did or ever will get $20million or so to act in a movie.

Granted, Affleck sucks, I'm not a fan, but you can't say he's not as successful as Kevin Smith. Apples and oranges. Kevin Smith never got an Oscar, either.

Plus, Armeggedon (sp?) rocked.



I was going to point out that BooBooKittyFuck was just joking, but then I saw your joke about Armageddon rocking. That's a good one. Ben also blasts it in the Jersey Girl DVD commentary "Why is it easier to teach oil drillers to be astronauts then to teach Astronauts to drill?"

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JustJon
11-01-2004, 06:02 PM
but.. but... Phantoms was the bomb

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torker
11-01-2004, 06:26 PM
Ben Affleck is the male Sandra Bullock! Die already!!


he's hotter

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11-01-2004, 07:40 PM
Ben also blasts it in the Jersey Girl DVD commentary "Why is it easier to teach oil drillers to be astronauts then to teach Astronauts to drill?"
That's pretty funny. But honestly, admit that you secretly love Armageddon. It's one of the best mindless summer special effects bonanzas ever. I friggin love it.

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11-01-2004, 07:44 PM
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Iamnotatool
11-01-2004, 08:32 PM
SKW, I shit you not, I did like Armageddon. I never really thought about the plot in terms of teaching the astronauts how to drill, and you bring u p a good point.

However, Buschemi, Liv, Bruce, the fat guy, the big black guy, the cowboy. Big nose Wilson's line about the situation being something along the lines of it being the worst situation you could possibly imagine makes me laugh every time.

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BooBooKittyFuck
11-02-2004, 03:31 AM
Kevin Smith created a following on his own, clerks was the equal to what Sam Raimi did with Evil Dead. Give him time he has SOOOOO much more potential than Ben.

Daredevil sucked and Armegeddon was good because of the many A list actors they stuck in there.

The only role I liked with Ben in was Chasing Amy and that was a Kevin Smith film.

Ben is just bitter.

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Hoojibs
11-02-2004, 04:49 AM
Well curiousity got the better of me and I went over to the viewaskew messageboard and basically Kevin Smith states that everything Ben Affleck said was taken out of context.

Kevin discusses fued with Ben (http://viewaskew.com/theboard/viewtopic.php?t=21429)



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Doctor Manhattan
11-02-2004, 05:26 AM
Well curiousity got the better of me and I went over to the viewaskew messageboard and basically Kevin Smith states that everything Ben Affleck said was taken out of context.

Kevin discusses fued with Ben (http://viewaskew.com/theboard/viewtopic.php?t=21429)

Kevin even posts a clip from the interview that appears on the Jersey Girl DVD. The one I mention about the porcelain bookends with Jay and Silent Bob:

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Doctor Manhattan
11-02-2004, 05:46 AM
but.. but... Phantoms was the bomb


Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms, Yo. But was Phantoms itself any good? They never discussed it.

But honestly, admit that you secretly love Armageddon.

I do own the Criterion DVD of that movie. I think it's funny as hell that Criterion put that out, they also did "The Rock" but I passed on that one.


SKW, I shit you not, I did like Armageddon. I never really thought about the plot in terms of teaching the astronauts how to drill, and you bring u p a good point.

I think Ben mentioned that on the Armageddon Criterion DVD commentary. He does point out a lot of stupid things about the movie. He also mentioned it on the Jersey Girl DVD and that's where my paraphrase quote came from in my "Why is it easier to teach oil drillers to be astronauts then to teach Astronauts to drill?" post

However, Buschemi, Liv, Bruce, the fat guy, the big black guy, the cowboy. Big nose Wilson's line about the situation being something along the lines of it being the worst situation you could possibly imagine makes me laugh every time.


I own the movie on DVD:

I love Steve Buschemi and Owen Wilson in just about anything they are in Even in Adam Sandler and Ben Stiller Movies.

I like Bruce Willis, Liv Tyler and Michael Clarke Duncan.

I think Billy Bob Thornton and William Fichtner are wonderful actors (both underused in this movie)

Jessica Steen is very hot (Michael Clarke Duncan, Steve Buschemi and Owen Wilson mention this during the training in the hanger scene)

You even get Peter Stormare (From Fargo and a 1000 other films) and Keith David (From "They Live" and "There's something about Mary")

But with all that, it's still a Michael Bay movie and he and his shaky-cam stlye of "filmmaking" sucks so much ass. But that's okay. It's just not a good film.

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Johnny4
11-02-2004, 11:04 AM
Maybe its because I have a kid, but I liked Jersey Girl.

For example: Kindest Regards, Your Name

Teenweek
11-02-2004, 11:04 AM
I liked Armageddon. I will never forgive him for ruining Pearl harbor.

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11-02-2004, 01:19 PM
I will never forgive him for ruining Pearl harbor


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Iamnotatool
11-02-2004, 01:25 PM
Dude, Pearl Harbor sucked with or without him. Kate Beckinsdale is the most BLAH actress ever, and they turned it into a fucking love story. The scenes depicting the actual Pearl Harbor were good, great even.

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Teenweek
11-02-2004, 02:05 PM
Dude, Pearl Harbor sucked with him. Kate Beckinsdale is the most BLAH actress ever, and they turned it into a fucking love story. The scenes depicting the actual Pearl Harbor were good, great even.



Like I said I put full blame on Ben Affleck. I was only excited more for one movie from the trailer than this and it was Lord of the Rings. Ben Affleck should burn in hell for ruining this movie.

GodsFavoriteMan
11-02-2004, 02:19 PM
Pearl Harbor and Armageddon, both Michael Bay films, blow hog dick. Michael Bay sucks. He should go back to directing music videos and keeping the seizure inducing 1 to 2 second cuts in a 3-4 minute structure.

His movies are and forever will be ASS.

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TheMojoPin
11-02-2004, 04:46 PM
You could have cast someone as good as Ed Norton in Affleck's role in "Pearl Harbor" and that piece of rank stank would STILL be one of the worst movies of the last 20 years.

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11-02-2004, 05:46 PM
My favorite review I heard of Pearl Harbor was, "It's a 2 hour movie squeezed into 3 hours"



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