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WRESTLINGFAN

11-07-2004, 05:15 AM

According to the article he committed suicide in protest of the Iraq war and the reelection of the President.

Suicide at WTC site (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041107/ap_on_re_us/ground_zero_suicide&cid=519&ncid=716)

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DJEvelEd

11-07-2004, 05:16 AM

He's holey now...

Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.

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Try the Veal, it was spirited in.

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Tenbatsuzen

11-07-2004, 05:39 AM

According to the article he committed suicide in protest of the Iraq war and the reelection of the President.

Chlorine for the gene pool. Good.

No offense folks, but if you fucking commit suicide over this, no sympathy. NONE.

This guy is about as worthless as anyone who imitiated Cobain 10 years ago.

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fiestygal

11-07-2004, 05:54 AM

MAN!!! SOMEONE WAS IN NEED OF ATTENTION!

WHAT A TOOL!

my dad always said suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem

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fluffernutter

11-07-2004, 06:26 AM

This guy is about as worthless as anyone who imitiated Cobain 10 years ago.

But I thought "someone" killed Cobain?

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11-07-2004, 06:50 AM

But I thought "someone" killed Cobain?

Eh, I believe Cobain killed himself. I don't think Courtney is smart and/or coherent enough to put together the conspiracy people talk about.

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Teenweek

11-07-2004, 07:13 AM

Eh, I believe Cobain killed himself. I don't think Courtney is smart and/or coherent enough to put together the conspiracy people talk about.

If you lived with COurtney Love wouldn't you blow your brains out.

This guy deserved today. Should not be wasting the air we breathe if he kills himself over this. This also goes to the douchebags who want to move to Canada.

Doctor Manhattan

11-07-2004, 07:27 AM

Chlorine for the gene pool. Good.

No offense folks, but if you fucking commit suicide over this, no sympathy. NONE.

This guy is about as worthless as anyone who imitiated Cobain 10 years ago.

I don't think anyone was about to come to this guys defense, or to say what a cool thing he did. But good to know you're ready to attack ASAP! Why not call him a "whore"?

And the people who caused 9/11 committed suicide as well, Does this guy support those terrorists?

Why would you kill your self to make a statement? People have already made statements to protest Iraq's war and W2. Now he put his family and financee* through this crap?

*according to the article, he was planning to marry!

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DarkHippie

11-07-2004, 07:43 AM

I don't know how i feel about this . . .

It's hard to respect suicide in any form, yet when i look at the Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire to protest the Vietnam War, or the mass suicides in the Warsaw Ghetto, i have nothing but respect.

Where then is the line?

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Snoogans

11-07-2004, 07:59 AM

courtney love did it at the request of cobain, but no one blows their own head off with a shot gun

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11-07-2004, 08:07 AM

Where then is the line?

suicide=bad

Only exception is when that suicide in turn saves another life.

There's the line. Don't kill yourself

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shocked60

11-07-2004, 08:38 AM

but no one blows their own head off with a shot gun

Ernest Hemingway!!!

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TheMojoPin

11-07-2004, 08:38 AM

Made me think of THIS guy...

Norman Morrison (born December 29, 1933, Erie, Pennsylvania, died November 2, 1965) is best known as a protester of the Vietnam War who set himself on fire (self-immolation) in front of The Pentagon building on November 2, 1965, to protest the United States involvement in the war. At the time, he was a 32-year old devout Quaker, and father of three. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Morrison)

What is ever accomplished by suicide? It's basically just a messy form of giving up.

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TheMojoPin

11-07-2004, 08:40 AM

courtney love did it at the request of cobain, but no one blows their own head off with a shot gun

Type "shotgun suicide" into the Google image search.

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WRESTLINGFAN

11-07-2004, 08:45 AM

Thank goodness that he only killed himself and did not have a bomb strapped to himself in which he could have killed more

FIRE SATHER!!!!!!!

TheMojoPin

11-07-2004, 09:59 AM

Why in God's name would he have a bomb strapped to himself?

The guy was nuts...but not a terrorist. I don't even see the "protest," given he left no note or statement.

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silera

11-07-2004, 10:37 AM

Thank goodness that he only killed himself and did not have a bomb strapped to himself in which he could have killed more

FIRE SATHER!!!!!!!

It's an empty site the size of 2 full city blocks. Some pigeons might have been hit with debris.

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11-07-2004, 10:51 AM

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WRESTLINGFAN

11-07-2004, 10:54 AM

Thank goodness that he only killed himself and did not have a bomb strapped to himself in which he could have killed more

FIRE SATHER!!!!!!!

It's an empty site the size of 2 full city blocks. Some pigeons might have been hit with debris.

Alot of people go there to visit the site, as kind of a memorial

FIRE SATHER!!!!!!!

Teenweek

11-07-2004, 11:04 AM

I found this quote in today's daily news HIGHLY offensive. This guy was a piece of shit and to have his blood on the same bedrock as 3000 innocents is disgusting. Fuck him and his family.

Mauney said that other than the war and the election, she didn't know what might have been troubling Veal.

"I told his mother there are some people so sensitive and intelligent and passionate they don't belong in the world the way it is today," she said.

"And if this was something he had to do, it was heroic that he chose the World Trade Center."

Tazz

11-07-2004, 11:28 AM

This guy was a piece of shit and to have his blood on the same bedrock as 3000 innocents is disgusting

This is exactly what I thought when I read the article.

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FUNKMAN

11-07-2004, 12:17 PM

blame Ohio!

he should have just moved to Canada like some of the other i've been hearing about...

fucking Ohio!
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Uncle Smokey

11-07-2004, 12:42 PM

Damn I was down around there from about 10 am yesterday, and the first I learned of this was in the papers this morning.

On a side note, can anyone who lives in the NY area get over how insistently absent those towers seem, even 3 years later? Those blocks really have acquired a barren, moon-like quality - like a landscape permanently in mourning. The effect is especially profound at night when its lit up by those stadium lights they installed around the perimeter.

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ChickenHawk

11-07-2004, 12:56 PM

So, to protest the war, he killed himself?
Aren't most people against the war because guns and death are bad?

PS - I'm so glad he's dead.

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Doctor Manhattan

11-07-2004, 01:06 PM

So, to protest the war, he killed himself?
Aren't most people against the war because guns and death are bad?

PS - I'm so glad he's dead.

Anti Abortion people have killed Doctors (and recently themselves) because they don't want the babies killed.

Crazy people don't make sense, that's what makes them crazy.

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ChickenHawk

11-07-2004, 01:11 PM

I know, and I'm glad those people are dead too.

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Doctor Manhattan

11-07-2004, 01:31 PM

I know, and I'm glad those people are dead too.

You mean the doctors who were killed by Anti-Abortion nuts? It would be better for women to preform abortions on themselves?

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furie

11-07-2004, 01:45 PM

I know, and I'm glad those people are dead too.

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11-07-2004, 01:51 PM

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WTF? That's one of the most hateful things I've seen on this board lately (and that's saying a lot).

If you can't discuss political differences without this kind of incendiary bullshit, you won't be welcome to post here at all.

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torker

11-07-2004, 02:14 PM

most hateful things I've seen

one life lost is too many
nothing but love and respect
people are going overboard in their reaction to a national election
take it back to the local level

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Tenbatsuzen

11-07-2004, 02:37 PM

Actually, this guy is a whore, he's an attention whore.

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ChickenHawk

11-07-2004, 02:54 PM

You mean the doctors who were killed by Anti-Abortion nuts? It would be better for women to preform abortions on themselves?
An obvious attempt to twist my words. Not sure what the point was though...

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Doctor Manhattan

11-07-2004, 03:03 PM

I said:
Anti Abortion people have killed Doctors (and recently themselves) because they don't want the babies killed.

Then you said:I know, and I'm glad those people are dead too.

So my "obvious attempt to twist your words" began with a question as to who you were referring to:

You mean the doctors who were killed by Anti-Abortion nuts?

Followed by a statement if the answer was "Yes":It would be better for women to preform abortions on themselves?

So, No, it was not an attempt to twist your words, Just to ask what you meant (I was hoping you would say, "Yes, the dead doctors", or "No, the woman who killed herself last week") and put in a bit of my own thought. (Since you said "People", it sounded like you meant the Doctors killed by Anti-Abortion protesters, and I still can't believe someone would defend them)

Get it now?

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ChickenHawk

11-07-2004, 03:06 PM

No, I understood the situation. I just think that you KNEW what I meant, but decided to pretend you didn't and go with it.

Obviously I'm glad the crazy people are dead. You said that the nuts who kill abortion doctors also kill themselves. I'm glad they're dead. You knew I wasn't glad doctors were dead, cuz we were clearly talking about how I'm glad these crazy nutcases are dead.

You were just playing a little Devil's advocate, which is okay. Can't say I'm not occasionally guilty of it.

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Doctor Manhattan

11-07-2004, 03:10 PM

You knew I wasn't glad doctors were dead, cuz we were clearly talking about how I'm glad these crazy nutcases are dead.

As far as I know only one person (http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/87/Topic/42262/page/Lady_sets_self_on_fire_in_protest___.htm) has killed themself in protest of abortion. So, No, I didn't KNOW who you were talking about. Which is why I asked you.

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ChickenHawk

11-07-2004, 03:13 PM

Yeah, but you yourself said:
Anti Abortion people have killed Doctors (and recently themselves)
And while we were on the topic of me being glad crazy people kill themselves, I decided to mention that I'm glad they're dead too.

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11-07-2004, 03:14 PM

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WTF? That's one of the most hateful things I've seen on this board lately (and that's saying a lot).

If you can't discuss political differences without this kind of incendiary bullshit, you won't be welcome to post here at all.

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Doctor Manhattan

11-07-2004, 03:27 PM

I actually mentioned AntiAbortion Protesters in response to:

Aren't most people against the war because guns and death are bad?

Since they protest killing of babies by killing others. So I thought I was taking your concept and expanding it.

I do see that woman's actions being taken by other nuts soon enough, so it will be "people"

I do agree with you: I'm glad those who are crazy enough to kill themselves are dead. As long as they limit it to themselves, I'm glad.

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silera

11-07-2004, 05:13 PM

"Fuck him and his family" has been bothering me all day.

Whoever he was, he obviously had issues. Any sane person wouldn't kill themselves, but to celebrate a suicide or ridicule anyone that is suffering from depression/suicidal tendancies is like congratulating yourself because you beat a retard at tic tac toe.

Not so long ago, a board member contemplated suicide over a bar fight. I saw many on this board show compassion. Compassion isn't only for those that we know or agree with.

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ChickenHawk

11-07-2004, 05:49 PM

...

I'm still glad the guy's dead.

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11-07-2004, 05:51 PM

more meat for the meat-eaters.

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NewYorkDragons80

11-07-2004, 05:58 PM

Anti Abortion people have killed Doctors (and recently themselves) because they don't want the babies killed.
And those people would be murderers. And I don't mind saying that abortionists and abortionist-slayers are both murderers.

The worthiness of a cause should not be decided by the fanatics on the fringe of that cause. Abolitionists frequently pulled drive-bys on slave-owners in the 1800s. Tell me that's an easy one to take a stance on.

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Tenbatsuzen

11-07-2004, 06:06 PM

"Fuck him and his family" has been bothering me all day.

Whoever he was, he obviously had issues. Any sane person wouldn't kill themselves, but to celebrate a suicide or ridicule anyone that is suffering from depression/suicidal tendancies is like congratulating yourself because you beat a retard at tic tac toe.

Not so long ago, a board member contemplated suicide over a bar fight. I saw many on this board show compassion. Compassion isn't only for those that we know or agree with.

This entire thread is vile.

Hate to disagree here Silera.

If he had that many problems that his family saw he was going down like this, they should have helped him. I mean, they KNEW he was in trouble, because of his mothers' comments in the article. Maybe they did try to help him, maybe they didn't, but it obviously wasn't enough. If your emotional support system is that weak, and you are that messed up in the head that a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION DRIVES YOU TO SUICIDE, then I say good.

It's better for him to do this to himself, rather than killing a girl who rejects him at a bar, or shooting someone with a t-shirt with an image of Reagan on it. He was obviously extremely on the edge, sociopathic, and had a flair for the dramatic.

And please, don't equate a board member contemplating suicide with this. A person who announces on a message board he wants to kill himself is not going to do it, it's a cry for help, sympathy, and as you said, compassion.

I don't celebrate death, I simply said "Good" because honestly, people who commit suicide disgust me. It means they've given up.

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Tenbatsuzen

11-07-2004, 06:14 PM

And another thing... I want to know how the fuck a lab tech from Georgia.... GEORGIA equates the importance of his life with the lives of those at Ground Zero.

Maybe, just maybe, if he had a loved one who died at the WTC, maybe he wanted to join them. But that's the ONLY acceptable reason.

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furie

11-07-2004, 06:18 PM

Hate to disagree here

no you don't :)

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silera

11-07-2004, 06:28 PM

He fucking killed himself. Where is the good in celebrating it or feeling some type of joy or superiority over him?

How arrogant or pathetic are you or anyone as a person to stand in judgement?

His life was as important as anyone that died there. He was a human being that felt immense sadness. We all felt it three years ago, regardless of whether or not we lost family members there. Just remembering how empty I felt makes me cold. You have no fucking idea what he went through, or whether his family tried to help, or if he was unreachable and unconsolable.

Regardless of whatever could have been done to prevent his death, the fact is that applauding it is a vile sentiment.

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Tenbatsuzen

11-07-2004, 06:42 PM

His life was as important as anyone that died there.

Incorrect. Those people did not choose to die by their own hand. There is a giant, grand canyon sized difference by people who are murdered and a person who is so delusional that he equates that his suicide will be symbolic with those souls.

If you make that choice to end your life and follow through with it, it makes your life worthless.

EDIT: Silera, I'm not saying he wasn't right in feeling despondent or sad over the situation.

But did you want to commit suicide over it? I felt depressed as hell the week after 9/11, and I had NO ONE I could talk to face to face about it. I was holed up, in my parents' house, for a week, with my entire family stuck in four corners of the US. I had no girlfriend, and my best friend was shellshocked over the situation.

He was a dramatic attention whore who wanted to make himself a fucking martyr. THAT'S MY POINT.

Suicide is disgusting. Planning it out to the point of equating your suicide to be just as symbolic as those 3,000 lives lost three years ago is atrocious.

I wouldn't be this upset if he killed himself in his house or if he did it even in front of the White House.

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torker

11-07-2004, 06:47 PM

There is a giant, grand canyon sized difference by people who are murdered and a person who is so delusional that he equates that his suicide will be symbolic with those souls.

Words of wisdom, Lloyd, my man. Words of wisdom.

Issues emanating from mental health should not be equated with martyrdom

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silera

11-07-2004, 07:06 PM

Who are you to judge and dismiss him? Why do it? Where's the good in it? Is it going to bring him back to life? Did his death affect you?

All life is valuable. That's it. He didn't value his own life, and by your words, neither do you.

In effect, your sentiments equate his actions.

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TheMojoPin

11-07-2004, 07:12 PM

But how does ANYONE know why he did what he did?

As of right now, I've seen nothing that indicates he left behind ANY kind of message or note or whatever explaining why he killed himself.

So now everyone is speaking FOR him...his family, us, the media...yet nobody actually KNOWS anything.

Personally, I think suicide is the coward's way out, and quite frankly, I don't care why he did what he did. But ultimately, I don't know why...and neither does anyone else here.

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Tenbatsuzen

11-07-2004, 07:17 PM

In effect, your sentiments equate his actions.

His actions entitle me to my sentiments.

He found his life to be worthless. I AGREE WITH THAT. Who are YOU to judge me for agreeing with that?

He wants to kill himself, fine. You're right, it doesn't affect my life. People do it every day.

The fact that he wanted to make a statement THERE does affect my life, because it angers me that someone thinks they are as important as what happened there, when they are clearly NOT.

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Tenbatsuzen

11-07-2004, 07:21 PM

As of right now, I've seen nothing that indicates he left behind ANY kind of message or note or whatever explaining why he killed himself.

If you live in Georgia and wanted to kill yourself, I'm sure there's many easier methods than driving yourself 10+ hours to NYC, and offing yourself on one of the most sacred (and lets be honest, symbolic both politically and emotionally) sites in the United States.

I'm inclined to agree that this suicide was politically motivated... otherwise, he just would have had a Hemingway breakfast in the backyard.

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torker

11-07-2004, 07:21 PM

I dismiss his actions as having value for a cause.

I would attach no label to his action other than "personal tragedy" based on what information is out there.

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silera

11-07-2004, 07:22 PM

I'm disagreeing with you, not judging you.

I don't care why he killed himself, or where. I simply don't agree that celebrating it or judging him serves any useful purpose except pronouncing yourself as superior because you wouldn't do the same.

He's dead. Isn't that punishment enough?

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ADF

11-07-2004, 07:26 PM

People are making a lot of assumptions about this guy's motivations. There's never any justification for killing yourself, but assuming that he was trying to make a statement or reach any sort of martyrdom is a little presumptive.

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TheMojoPin

11-07-2004, 07:27 PM

As of right now, I've seen nothing that indicates he left behind ANY kind of message or note or whatever explaining why he killed himself.

If you live in Georgia and wanted to kill yourself, I'm sure there's many easier methods than driving yourself 10+ hours to NYC, and offing yourself on one of the most sacred (and lets be honest, symbolic both politically and emotionally) sites in the United States.

I'm inclined to agree that this suicide was politically motivated... otherwise, he just would have had a Hemingway breakfast in the backyard.

How do you know?

Maybe he felt his depression was somehow linked to the site?

Maybe 9/11 was the cause of his depression?

Who knows?

Obviously there was some connection, at least in his head...but to automatically guess it was "political" is a HUGE leap, especially if he didn't leave any kind of statement.

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ChickenHawk

11-07-2004, 08:03 PM

If he went there to kill himself because he couldn't deal with someone he lost there 3 years ago, I would never pass judgement on his actions. I feel an enormous amount of sadness when I go down there and look at the site. I can't imagine the pain someone must feel if they lost one or multiple friends/loved ones that day. I don't know what it's like to be suicidal or on the verge of it, so on that count, I would never be insensitive in regard to someone committing suicide.

HOWEVER, it is said in the article (and the article is ALL I can base judgement on, because the article is all the information I've been supplied) that he killed himself in protest to the war and the re-election of Bush.

If THAT is the reason you kill yourself, I don't feel bad that you're dead.

Sorry.

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TheMojoPin

11-07-2004, 08:06 PM

HOWEVER, it is said in the article (and the article is ALL I can base judgement on, because the article is all the information I've been supplied) that he killed himself in protest to the war and the re-election of Bush.

The article said it.

His friends and family said it.

We've said it.

Yet he never said it.

We're just assuming.

Again, if he was SO distraught over politics enough to KILL HIMSELF...why do so without TELLING ANYONE?!? If his goal was to make a statement, like everyone is saying, then WHERE'S THE STATEMENT?!?

Quite frankly, I'm surprised MORE people haven't killed themselves on or around the site. Something of that magnitude just has to be a magnet for miserable and despairing people.

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ChickenHawk

11-07-2004, 08:08 PM

I think we should be worrying about the REAL issue here...

How the hell did a guy get into ground zero with a shotgun?

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reeshy

11-07-2004, 08:10 PM

Why can't we just forgive him and pray for his soul???? Obviously,, he was a confused person and didn't know what to do ..........just pray for him!!!!

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TheMojoPin

11-07-2004, 08:13 PM

I think we should be worrying about the REAL issue here...

How the hell did a guy get into ground zero with a shotgun?

Is security that tight there at this point?

I'm honestly not trying to be callous...but there's nothing there.

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reeshy

11-07-2004, 08:14 PM

How the hell did a guy get into ground zero with a shotgun?

Shit...do you live in NYC......I can travel on the subway with 2 UZI's under my sportjacket!!!!

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ChickenHawk

11-07-2004, 08:16 PM

I do live in NYC, but I understand that getting on the subway is different from getting into a restricted zone swarming with cops.

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silera

11-07-2004, 08:22 PM

I pass it everyday. There are viewing areas that are either caged or windowed. I don't see how he got in so easily with a shot gun nonetheless.

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A.J.

11-08-2004, 03:00 AM

I hope Judas Priest or Ozzy doesn't get blamed for this.

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Doctor Manhattan

11-08-2004, 04:07 AM

Anti Abortion people have killed Doctors (and recently themselves) because they don't want the babies killed.
And those people would be murderers. And I don't mind saying that abortionists and abortionist-slayers are both murderers.

The worthiness of a cause should not be decided by the fanatics on the fringe of that cause. Abolitionists frequently pulled drive-bys on slave-owners in the 1800s. Tell me that's an easy one to take a stance on.

Killing people is wrong, even if those people who are being killed have killed others.

I think it's a very simple concept. Don't kill people. Don't kill yourself.

I'm no fan of abortion, but once you kill the doctors, you are just a bad as you and I think they are. You become a murderer and don't deserve to live (but I'm not going to become a murderer just because someone else did.)

I'd rather have doctors preform abortions, because you aren't going to be able to stop people from having abortions.

Also, People who end up killing people to serve the death penalty aren't included in my "Don't Kill People" rule (I think I read that somewhere) I'd rather not have to give anyone the death penalty, but people who go around killing people need to go.

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11-08-2004, 04:08 AM

Anti Abortion people have killed Doctors (and recently themselves) because they don't want the babies killed.
And those people would be murderers. And I don't mind saying that abortionists and abortionist-slayers are both murderers.

The worthiness of a cause should not be decided by the fanatics on the fringe of that cause. Abolitionists frequently pulled drive-bys on slave-owners in the 1800s. Tell me that's an easy one to take a stance on.

Killing people is wrong, even if those people who are being killed have killed others.

I think it's a very simple concept. Don't kill people. Don't kill yourself.

I'm no fan of abortion, but once you kill the doctors, you are just a bad as you and I think they are. You become a murderer and don't deserve to live (but I'm not going to become a murderer just because someone else did.)

I'd rather have doctors preform abortions, because you aren't going to be able to stop people from having abortions.

Also, People who end up killing people to serve the death penalty aren't included in my "Don't Kill People" rule (I think I read that somewhere) I'd rather not have to give anyone the death penalty, but people who go around killing people need to go.
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Doctor Manhattan

11-08-2004, 04:23 AM

Did I say it wasn't?

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11-08-2004, 07:13 AM

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Tenbatsuzen

11-08-2004, 07:17 AM

Listening to O&A today, apparently there's a story in the paper that the 9/11 families are PISSED by what this idiot did.

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TheMojoPin

11-08-2004, 08:27 AM

Well, durrr.

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Doctor Manhattan

11-08-2004, 09:04 AM

Listening to O&A today, apparently there's a story in the paper that the 9/11 families are PISSED by what this idiot did.

I bet his family and his future inlaws are pissed too.

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CaptClown

11-08-2004, 09:56 AM

I hope Judas Priest or Ozzy doesn't get blamed for this.

I hope they don't blame it on Lynard Skynard or Marilyn Manson.

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Doctor Manhattan

11-08-2004, 10:00 AM

I hope they don't blame it on Prince and Led Zeppelin.

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11-08-2004, 10:02 AM

I hope they don't blame it on Wang Chung and Timbuk 3

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11-08-2004, 10:06 AM

Timbuk 3

It's funny how a song called "The Future's So Bright (I Gotta Wear Shades)" made me think of killing myself everytime I heard it.

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11-08-2004, 10:09 AM

Really bad remakes/remixes make me want to end my life.

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Freebird

11-08-2004, 11:19 AM

If they blame it on Carson Daly.....I'm kinda okay with that

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Tenbatsuzen

11-08-2004, 02:43 PM

Timbuk 3

It's funny how a song called "The Future's So Bright (I Gotta Wear Shades)" made me think of killing myself everytime I heard it.

It's funny, the video they did based on that song on the show "Head of the Class" made me want to kill myself.

Who knew that the actor playing the character who came up with that craptacular idea would go on to produce craptacular movies and tv shows?!?!

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A.J.

11-09-2004, 02:29 AM

Timbuk 3

It's funny how a song called "The Future's So Bright (I Gotta Wear Shades)" made me think of killing myself everytime I heard it.

It's funny, the video they did based on that song on the show "Head of the Class" made me want to kill myself.

Who knew that the actor playing the character who came up with that craptacular idea would go on to produce craptacular movies and tv shows?!?!

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Ha! I remember that!

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NewYorkDragons80

11-09-2004, 07:07 AM

I hope Judas Priest or Ozzy doesn't get blamed for this.
Yeah, but Biz Markie has had it too good for too long.

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LiquidCourage

11-10-2004, 01:45 PM

Perhaps he was also trying to make some sort of gun control statement.

Tenbatsuzen

11-10-2004, 02:27 PM

Time for me to play Mattylock. Why'd he buy 60 rounds if he knew he was going to kill himself?

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11-10-2004, 03:52 PM

You know where to buy one bullet?

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