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JerryTaker
11-26-2004, 09:46 AM
Are these countries in the "Axis of Evil" now? (http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2004/11/26/ap1677309.html)
The World Trade Organization on Friday approved sanctions on a wide range of American exports intended to punish the United States for failing to repeal what it considers protectionist legislation. The Bush administration indicated it would live with the new duties.
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The EU was joined in its complaint by seven other countries: Brazil, Canada, Mexico, South Korea, Japan, India and Chile.
I know it amounts to nothing in the grand scheme, but if we're going to be a "global economy," doesn't it at least benefit us a little in the long run to "play nice" in small matters like this?
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Mike Teacher
11-26-2004, 12:34 PM
From what I've seen of the EUs response to some global problems? Over the last decade alone? Fuck them. UN Members, ditto. Way to run the place, Kofi, ignore some more genocide...
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furie
11-26-2004, 03:00 PM
yeah i can't believe clinton signed this into law. what were he and byrd thinking? stupid stupid stupid.
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JerryTaker
11-27-2004, 08:51 AM
Something about Steel companies getting screwed internationally, without researching too much, I gathered that.
My point, of course, is if the UN ruled the law illegal 2 years ago, why do we continue to so flippantly dismiss the UN at every turn?
Now, if we were total Isolationists in this country, then I would have less of a problem with that, but considering our slave-like dependance on Saudi oil, the $8 trillion we intend to borrow from other countries, our largest corporations hiring as much as they can get away with overseas, the plummeting Dollar against the Euro, and the fact that we barely produce anything anymore, I think our current "fuck 'em all" attitude is going to bite us in the ass at some point.
Why doesn't anyone else see this same danger, given our real state in the world?
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DarkHippie
11-27-2004, 10:30 AM
My point, of course, is if the UN ruled the law illegal 2 years ago, why do we continue to so flippantly dismiss the UN at every turn?
It wasn't the UN, it was the WTO, the evil trading cabal that (along with the IMF and World Bank) seeks to create a worldwide government of businesses, overpowering the laws of all countries.
Yes, I'm biased.
Oh yeah, they're controlled by the Illuminati too.
And aliens.
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furie
11-27-2004, 10:41 AM
We dismissed the ruling because WTO rulings do not supercede US law in the US. We are still a sovereign nation. We can impose tariffs on what we want, so can they and they have. It's just politics.
The term "Illegal" here doesn't have the usual meaning because international law is not enforceable in this case.
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DarkHippie
11-27-2004, 11:14 AM
We can impose tariffs on what we want, so can they and they have. It's just politics.
It's true, but the the WTO isn't a country, and that's what makes them so creepy. The WTO's intrests are only for businesses, including those in the US, so you can look at it as American businesses fining American goverment for not playing ball. It's even worse in small countries without the economic clout we have to resist them.
Is it any wonder why there've been such fervant worldwide protests against them?
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11-27-2004, 12:49 PM
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It is the international system of currency which determines the vitality of life on this planet. THAT is the natural order of things today. THAT is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today. And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature. And YOU WILL ATONE. Am I getting through to you, Mr.Hippie? You get up on your little 21-inch screen and howl about America, and democracy. There is no America; there is no democracy. There is only IBM, and Microsoft, and GE, and DuPont, Dow, BASF, and Exxon/Mobil. Those are the nations of the world today.
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Hippie, and I won't have it. Is that clear? You think you've merely stopped a business deal? That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back. It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity. It is ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations; there are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems; one vast, interwoven, interacting, multivaried, multinational dominion of dollars.
The world is a business, Mr. Hippie; it has been since man crawled out of the slime. Our children will live, Mr. Hippie, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality - one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock - all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Hippie, to preach this evangel.
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Yerdaddy
11-27-2004, 01:18 PM
Anybody who is too young to have seen, or otherwise missed the movie Network back in the '70's should run out to Blockbuster and rent it.
Or for a small $32 contribution to the global economic overloards and get it at Costco in a 4-pack along with: "Delvierance" "All the President's Men" and "Mean Streets."
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