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WindowSill
12-26-2004, 07:34 AM
Story here (http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001/20041226/1013600764.htm)
Jesus christ, 8.9 on the scale...
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Snoogans
12-26-2004, 07:36 AM
Tourists, fishermen, homes and cars were swept away by walls of water up to 20 feet high that swept across the Bay of Bengal
is it me, or does 20 feet not really sound like its that big. Obviously a lotta shit was fucked up, but i dont know, alot of beaches can get waves up to 20 feet
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WRESTLINGFAN
12-26-2004, 08:15 AM
20 feet is fucking humungous in that part of the world. Their infrastructure is primitive compared to what we have
WindowSill
12-26-2004, 08:21 AM
is it me, or does 20 feet not really sound like its that big. Obviously a lotta shit was fucked up, but i dont know, alot of beaches can get waves up to 20 feet
I dont know what kind of beaches youre going to, but Ive never seen any 20 foot waves. And it may not seem like THAT huge a height, but I can imagine itd be really fuckin scary if youre sittin in your boat and then all of a sudden you're 2 stories high.
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Snoogans
12-26-2004, 08:23 AM
the boat arguement is fine. and ive never personally seen a 20 footer, only on videos. but alot beaches in surf videos do produce some monsters, mavericks, j bay, alot of the south pacifics.
i was sayin for land fall, 20 feet doesnt seem huge. if i was in a boat i wouldnt be too happy, no
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WindowSill
12-26-2004, 08:28 AM
Apparently big enough to do this... (http://channels.netscape.com/fotosrch/3/20041226XGA103.jpg)
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Snoogans
12-26-2004, 08:31 AM
thats what im sayin, thats not a 20 foot wave. thats a 20 foot rise in water level, that means the wave peaks were alot higher
if a 20 foot wave hit NJ, it would be lucky to flood the basement beach front, if the water rose 20 feet plus huge waves, it would level half the state
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WindowSill
12-26-2004, 08:35 AM
Well yeah, but like wrestilingfan said, look at those shacks theyre living in; not exactly the most waterproof community in the world. Forget 20 feet, 5 feet looks like it can take out the whole "city" theyre livin in.
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Bulldogcakes
12-26-2004, 08:43 AM
Snoog, I thought the same thing, but I think the body count speaks for itself. And . . . .
"In Sri Lanka, 1,000 miles west of the epicenter, more than 3,000 people were killed, the country's top police official said. At least 1,870 died in Indonesia, and 1,900 along the southern coasts of India. At least 198 were confirmed dead in Thailand, 42 in Malaysia and 2 in Bangladesh.
But officials expected the death toll to rise dramatically, with hundreds reported missing and all communications cut off to Sumatran towns closest to the epicenter. Hundreds of bodies were found on various beaches along India's southern state of Tamil Nadu, and more were expected to be washed in by the sea, officials said."
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WindowSill
12-26-2004, 08:46 AM
Thats really a ridiculous amount of people. After today counts probably gonna be up over at least 12,000.
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Snoogans
12-26-2004, 08:46 AM
yea cause unlike i originally thought, it wasnt waves. it was just th disruption lifted the entire sea level 20 feet for awhile. thats why everyone and everything was washed over. if it was a wave, it woulda just crashed at waters edge and maybe grabbed a person or 2 off the beach if they werent payin attention
and the number isnt that nuts. if this had happened right off the coast of california it woulda killed a couple hundred thousand
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keithy_19
12-26-2004, 09:17 AM
That's a lot of people.
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torker
12-26-2004, 09:34 AM
7,000 dead after Earthquake/Tsunami in Asia
1 American slightly injured
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mothershucker
12-26-2004, 10:08 AM
Death toll is now aproaching 10,000.
And they call it a tidal wave. It is 20 feet tall, but it is not like a 20 foot regular wave breaking on the North shore of Oahu. A tidal wave has a shit load more water behind it. It is a 20 foot wall of water that just keeps on going until it hits shit and slows down.
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Snoogans
12-26-2004, 10:12 AM
yes im aware, ive already stated i misread things
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sr71blackbird
12-26-2004, 04:22 PM
Some of those islands are only like 5 feet above sea level
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sr71blackbird
12-26-2004, 04:25 PM
Also, when you think about the hurricanes that hit Florida recently, at least there was a warning, in this case, it just kinda happens and your just wiped out wondering what happened, you know?
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FMJeff
12-27-2004, 01:05 AM
RED CROSS DISASTER RELEIF FUND (https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp)
Let's do something good for our fellow man and hand over some of our hard earned cash for those who really need it right now.
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12-27-2004, 02:42 AM
Did I hear correctly this morning that the death toll was 20,000? Wow that's awful!!! So sorry...
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12-27-2004, 04:22 AM
Did I hear correctly this morning that the death toll was 20,000? Wow that's awful!!! So sorry...
I heard it being speculated to being around 21,000.
If only there had been the means in the area to warn the people a lot of lives could have been saved. It's so very tragic.
I also heard them say it was a 9 on the scale.
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Reephdweller
12-27-2004, 04:26 AM
International aid agencies were rushing to avert the spread of disease in tsunami-devastated coastal regions across southern Asia last night as the number of people reported to have been swept to their deaths passed more than 24,000.
Make that 24,000+ deaths (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/12/27/1103996496448.html?oneclick=true)
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How absolutely disasterous.
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badorties
12-27-2004, 06:02 AM
the worst is yet to happen when fresh water is hard to come by, and disease(s) runs rampant ...
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Furtherman
12-27-2004, 06:21 AM
Some of the video footage I've seen of people running from walls of water is unbelievable. Smaller tsunamis are likely to occur from the aftershocks.
Just imagine lying on a beach, sipping your drink then the water disappears... minutes go by until the raging wall of water hits... only to drag you back out to sea. They'll never know the exact number of deaths because so many people were dragged out to sea.
This is what will happen to the US when the Cumbre Vieja volacano on the Canary Islands erupts.
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TheMojoPin
12-27-2004, 06:38 AM
My God, this is so unbelievably horrendous.
Jeff, thanks for putting up the Red Cross link on the front page...these people need our help!
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booster11373
12-27-2004, 07:17 AM
this supposed to some photos of a resort in thailand as the waves hit
http://www.pbase.com/issels/phuket_tsunami&page=all
booster11373
12-27-2004, 07:19 AM
some more photos
here (http://soieasy.com/modules.php?set_albumName=Tsunami&op=modload&name=Pictures&file=index&include=view_album.php)
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Bill From Yorktown
12-27-2004, 07:24 AM
if something like that hit manhattan, the city would be a disaster....
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12-27-2004, 07:40 AM
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That is wild! I hope that guy made it.
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stickyfingers
12-27-2004, 07:47 AM
I just put up the link and asked my fellow employees to contribute to this fund on the company bulletin. I can't imagine how horrible it must be there. Sometimes we truly are at the mercy of Mother Nature.
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42nd-delay
12-27-2004, 07:53 AM
if something like that hit manhattan, the city would be a disaster....
Some of this is speculation, but I don't think it's likely to happen. For one, Manhattan is fairly shielded from the ocean, so a tidal wave like that would hit long island/brooklyn, staten island or Jersey pretty bad, but wouldn't hit Manhattan very hard, if at all.
And if it did, we have enough early warning systems in place that loss of life itself would be limited, even if property damage were severe.
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Furtherman
12-27-2004, 08:05 AM
A tsunami coming in from the east, starting at the Canary Islands, which is the most likely starting point, would take 8 hours to reach the East Coast.
To evacuate NYC in 8 hours? Impossible. Head for the highest point you can get to.
It would hit the city, coming up the Hudson. Some of the waves would dissipate hitting land, but the Hudson would still expierence the most dangerous part, with the water getting higher the closer it gets to land.
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badorties
12-27-2004, 02:12 PM
maybe the worst story i've ever read ...
Generation of Asians Lost in Disaster (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041227/ap_on_re_as/quake_where_are_the_children)
About half of the nearly 400 people who perished in Cuddalore in India's Tamil Nadu state were children, leaving the town stunned.
Under Hindu tradition, children are buried instead of being cremated like adults. For the grim task in Cuddalore, two pits, together about half the size of a basketball court, were dug near a river at the edge of this coconut palm-fringed town.
After one couple laid the body of their daughter in the deep pit, a bulldozer shoveled in sand and the little girl disappeared from view. They then stepped aside for others to bury their children, denied any chance for a service or private mourning.
Most of the children, ages 5-12, were buried as they were found - in their Sunday clothes - without the luxury of a shroud.
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badorties
12-27-2004, 02:15 PM
Some of this is speculation, but I don't think it's likely to happen. For one, Manhattan is fairly shielded from the ocean, so a tidal wave like that would hit long island/brooklyn, staten island or Jersey pretty bad, but wouldn't hit Manhattan very hard, if at all.
the town i grew up in, rockaway beach, would be lost -- so would long beach, sheepheads bay ... basically anything south of the belt parkway and the southern state would be destroyed ...
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sr71blackbird
12-27-2004, 02:24 PM
basically anything south of the belt parkway and the southern state would be destroyed ...
You say that like its a bad thing
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FMJeff
12-27-2004, 03:33 PM
honestly folks, if you haven't forked over some cash, do it now
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curtoid
12-27-2004, 04:09 PM
honestly folks, if you haven't forked over some cash, do it now
Thanks for doing this.
keithy_19
12-27-2004, 04:47 PM
42,000 (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041228/D878B53O0.html)
Holy shit.
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Uncle Smokey
12-27-2004, 05:57 PM
I just flipped past Larry King and saw the hotel I stayed at on Phuket get fucking buried at sea. I'm speechless at the magnitude of this thing. Thank you so much for posting that link Jeff.
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Bulldogcakes
12-28-2004, 04:01 AM
Death toll now up to 40,000. Includes luxury hotels on the beach filled with tourists, many of whom were Americans.
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Reephdweller
12-28-2004, 07:37 AM
Okay, now we got a problem. This sweet thing was injured in the tsunami disaster.
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Czech supermodel Petra Nemcova, who appeared on the cover of 2003 Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue, was injured and her photographer boyfriend is missing after the pair were caught up in the Asian tsunami disaster, a spokeswoman for the boyfriend said Tuesday.
full story... (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=8&u=/ap/20041228/ap_on_en_ot/quake_model)
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Fallon
12-28-2004, 07:39 AM
42,000? Jesus Christ.
The Sun newspaper reported Tuesday that Nemcova clung to a tree for eight hours as the water swirled around her.
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gypsy
12-28-2004, 08:25 AM
Another earthquake the day afther Christmas. What are the odds?
FMJeff
12-28-2004, 09:36 AM
just to put it into perspective, that's about 10,000 short of filling every seat in shea stadium with a dead human body...
what fucking aggravates me the most is the ignorance of some of the new yorkers i've encountered throughout the day today on my commute to work...saying why should we give a shit when "they" didn't give a fuck when 3000+ died on 9/11...
i hate to say this, but 9/11 doesn't even come close to this and anyone who even tries to make the comparison is a fucking idiot....every country has its memorable disaster but this affects the entire world and the body count is at least 15 times larger than 9/11...and i very much doubt the thai/indonesians didn't care about us for 9/11, they have their own problems feeding thier population, fighting off rebellions and living below the poverty line to hand over money to a rich nation like ours...
ARGH i can't stand american studidity sometimes...
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Reephdweller
12-28-2004, 09:40 AM
What annoys me more is that the news has to keep makong note of the fact that 8-10 Americans died. What about the close 40,000 others they're now saying died. It's sad that anyone died, but for this type of disaster I don't care where they were from. It's a natural tragedy beyond anything we've seen in a long long time.
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12-28-2004, 09:41 AM
Make that 60,000 (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash7.htm)
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curtoid
12-28-2004, 09:51 AM
just to put it into perspective, that's about 10,000 short of filling every seat in shea stadium with a dead human body...
what fucking aggravates me the most is the ignorance of some of the new yorkers i've encountered throughout the day today on my commute to work...saying why should we give a shit when "they" didn't give a fuck when 3000+ died on 9/11...
i hate to say this, but 9/11 doesn't even come close to this and anyone who even tries to make the comparison is a fucking idiot....every country has its memorable disaster but this affects the entire world and the body count is at least 15 times larger than 9/11...and i very much doubt the thai/indonesians didn't care about us for 9/11, they have their own problems feeding thier population, fighting off rebellions and living below the poverty line to hand over money to a rich nation like ours...
ARGH i can't stand american studidity sometimes...
I'm with you Jeff, although I wouldn't lump that all into a New York line of thinking. I think it's everywhere.
Nevermind that most people across the globe, of all ethnicities and religions, DID come together and support and pray for the victims of 9/11 - even in Iran, of all places! I think some people are confusing the global reaction after the Iraq war with the global reaction after September 11. Two very different things.
You can't force altrusim, though. The reactions of others will make you sad and angry and befuddled and frustrated at times, but ultimately you have to believe that there are more people out there that can find it in themselves to feel for others unlike themselves than not. I know that was proven to me when I came here and saw what you did - and I know I'm not the other one! There's a nice letter in the DCRTV (http://www.dcrtv.com)mailbag that mentions this site doing this.
I've given $50.00 - wish I could give more.
Thanks again!
Doomstone
12-28-2004, 10:03 AM
There's a nice letter in the DCRTV mailbag that mentions this site doing this.
Nice. They also mention this Wackbag.com thread (http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=19353). I like O and A, but damn their fans can be a bunch of cretins.
Great....
....More brownish / olive-colored people we are saving, only to have them badmouth us and blow us up later.
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Furtherman
12-28-2004, 10:15 AM
Human ignorance. Until a tsunami hits them, it won't change.
As for the Tsunami event - the earthquake that caused them shook the entire planet.
Quake rattled Earth orbit, changed map of Asia (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041228/wl_asia_afp/asiaquakeusmapshift_041228013319)
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FMJeff
12-28-2004, 10:48 AM
i don't see this DCRTV mention? i wanna see what they said...
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curtoid
12-28-2004, 10:50 AM
Washington Post's official numbers right now are 51,000, which everyone recognizes will go up. That's already 10% of the population of the actual District of Columbia (not counting the burbs).
There is no word to describe this that isn't an understatement.
i don't see this DCRTV mention? i wanna see what they said...
It's in the maibag section. About half way down the mailbag page.
Nice. They also mention this Wackbag.com thread (http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=19353). I like O and A, but damn their fans can be a bunch of cretins.
Unrelated to the actual topic, I did get a needed chuckle out of that thread with Tenbatsuzen making fun of someone else on that site getting banned (about half way down the first page).
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badorties
12-28-2004, 10:58 AM
just to put it into perspective, that's about 10,000 short of filling every seat in shea stadium with a dead human body...
anytime there's a tragedy, or massive layoff i relate to it that way ... i think of the last time i was at the garden, and two sold out performances worth of people were lost ...
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12-28-2004, 11:19 AM
Congratulations to El Jefe and J Dubs from 106.7's The Hideout (radiohideout.com), and the fans of WJFK-FM & Live 105's The Ron and Fez Show (ronfez.net) for stepping up and responding to the enormous tragedy in Asia by posting links to relief efforts directly on their homepages. Certainly just small jesters, but none-the-less important ones that show the character of these men, and their fans. Jefe's impassioned rant at the beginning of their Monday show was especially good to hear - things that needed to be said, but aren't. Infinity should watch their back before Air America taps Jefe to be their angry, articulate voice from the left. I'm sure other shows and fan sites must have done similar moves, and I would love to hear about them.
hey nice!
Nothing on the Don and Mike, The Sports Junkies or Howard Stern websites, however, which is actually better (in my opinion) than an attempt made on an Opie and Anthony message board, which (typically) degenerated into a pile of myopic, racist filth (www.wackbag.com). Nice fan base there, XM! You guys should be proud for reaching for the lowest of the low. No wonder they and their listeners are the laughingstock of the radio community. (12/28/04)
Oof...ouch...
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12-28-2004, 11:49 AM
Certainly just small jesters
Ron and Fez are not small jesters.... they're big men with big hearts, and a huge sense of humor!!!
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FMJeff
12-28-2004, 11:51 AM
this is why the mods will never allow the kind of racist bullshit that the O&A boards allow...
you should read that thread...its embarassing...
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mikeyboy
12-28-2004, 12:00 PM
Certainly just small jesters
Ron and Fez are not small jesters.... they're big men with big hearts, and a huge sense of humor!!!
My guess is that they meant "gestures".
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LiquidCourage
12-28-2004, 12:02 PM
Absolutely horrible, that's all i can add to this...
mothershucker
12-28-2004, 12:42 PM
I just read the thread, and while it is a bit over the top, most of it was in jest, and some of it is valid.
I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker
angrymissy
12-28-2004, 12:47 PM
some of it is valid
What was valid? The part where someone basically says fuck the brown people let them die?
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mothershucker
12-28-2004, 12:51 PM
What was valid? The part where someone basically says fuck the brown people let them die?
No, try again.
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angrymissy
12-28-2004, 12:53 PM
you tell me.
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keithy_19
12-28-2004, 12:58 PM
:8o: oh snap!
Ok, I know this is all related, but why does everything in this forum turn into a fight. Come on, this was a big horrible tradgedy. Can't we all just stop the bickering. Jesus H. Christ.
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angrymissy
12-28-2004, 01:01 PM
No one is bickering. Trying to find out what someone would think was valid in that other thread. Stop overreacting.
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angrymissy
12-28-2004, 01:29 PM
I find it absolutely sickening that anyone could say these people deserved this. Deserved to have their children swept out of their hands and drowned, deserved to have their meager huts on the shore washed away, deserved to have everything they know destroyed in a second, simply because they are brown and people automatically assume they must be muslim.
Most of the world mourned with us on 9/11 and I mourn with the victims of this tragedy.
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Iamnotatool
12-28-2004, 01:49 PM
Let's be honest, not everyone that died in this thing was a great upstanding citiczen that we can't do without, just like the same goes for 9/11, Chernobyl, and any other tragedy you'd like to name.
Fact is, 95% of these people were probably good. Shit, at least half of them (the kids) absoLUTELY didn't deserve this.
In any case, I do my charity stuff in pivate, but bravo to Jeff for doing the right thing once again and proving himself to be a class act.
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FMJeff
12-28-2004, 02:39 PM
i mean i didn't do it for me, im the least important part of this process. i feel bad i can't go over there right now and help out...but finances won't allow it...
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12-28-2004, 04:03 PM
Sad story of a trainload of people lost in the Tsunami (http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-quake-train,0,2458716,print.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines)
Venerable Baddegama Samitha, a Buddhist monk and former parliamentarian who presided over the ritual, said he realized some of the dead were of other faiths -- the region has a large Muslim community -- and a moment's silence was held to honor them.
"This was the only thing we could do," he said. "It was a desperate solution. The bodies were rotting. We gave them a decent burial."
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This is a tragedy beyond ethnic and religious boundries and anyone who brings racism into this is only proving how uncivilized they are. These people need our help. And our prayers.
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curtoid
12-28-2004, 05:06 PM
i mean i didn't do it for me, im the least important part of this process. i feel bad i can't go over there right now and help out...but finances won't allow it...
I have a friend/coworker who was scheduled to go to Thailand and Burhma at the end of the week for the opening of a hospital, and to do a little bit of sightseeing, but had to scrap it because of this. She said, if the tragedy wasn't of this magnitude, she would have considered going anyway to help, but right now - and for the next week or so - she said it sounded like she would just be in the way. It's going to be tough enough just getting the supplies where they need to go.
curtoid
12-28-2004, 05:13 PM
Disease Could Double Asia Death Toll (http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?floc=ne-world-10-l2&flok=FF-APO-1104&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20041228%2F1313876602.htm&sc=1104&photoid=20041228XGO115)
Christ almighty...this is just a nightmare...
On a side note, I'd like to say public "thank goodness" that rf.net's own little world trekker, "Yerrdaddy," was no where near this! I've already worryied enough about his raggedy ass in the middle east - I can't imagine what the people who have lost friends and family must be going through.
FUNKMAN
12-28-2004, 05:37 PM
makes you wonder what the future holds for the millions of people left homeless. will they build again in the same areas, so close to the shorelines? what will the beachfront resorts do?
what can the engineers come up with to better protect the people and the property and who will pay for it?
or will it come down to 'they will just have to take their chances' and hope something like this never happens again
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12-28-2004, 05:37 PM
This is is just so unbelievably monstrous. It really shows how retarded our own manmade squabbles are when Mother Nature decides to just kick us square in the ass.
Even though it wasn't hit the worst, the footage from Thailand just really freaks me out. When I lived there, I went to all the resorts numerous times along the coast, and to just see these places I've been to completely destroyed like that is heartbreaking. Thank God my friends that still live there live in or around Bangkok.
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Snoogans
12-28-2004, 09:43 PM
i saw a few pictures of this on the news, which i rarely watch, and it almost made me cry. all i could picture in my head was a sunami hitting new jersey and imagining what would happen, and thinkin how that might suck more than any other disaster. at least with weather ones, you can usually get away in time, and with things like earthquakes on land and shit it just happens and is usually done.
the disease and clean up from this are gonna be so far beyond anything ive seen. its entire cities gone, it really is remarkably sad
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This is going to get worse.
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Reephdweller
12-29-2004, 04:23 AM
or will it come down to 'they will just have to take their chances' and hope something like this never happens again
The problems as I've come to understand it from reading various articles is that the whole area is very prone to earthquakes. It's just that they weren't prepared for one of this magnitude. That is was always known that it would happen there eventually, though they never prepared for it. Going forward I would hope that they do move to areas away from the shorelines, though just like those idiots along the Mississippi do - they settle in move along the river and then ten years later get their mobile homes and all their possessions and loved ones swept up when the river overflows. It happens every 10-15 years or so and yet they keep moving back. I guarantee you that people over there will do the same and probably the same thing will occur. The problem as I see it is that they need a better communication system to be able to warn the locals to get out if such a thing were to occur again.
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12-29-2004, 04:34 AM
all i could picture in my head was a sunami hitting new jersey and imagining what would happen
Luckily for us we have a much better system for monitoring weather conditions in that if something like this were to occur we would be better prepared to react and get as many people to safety as possible. I think that Long Island has a far greater problem than anywhere else around here in that all the ways we have to get off the island (which there aren't many) are all bottlenecks during normal traffic conditions. If a disaster were to occur the traffic would be so many many times worse.
Though any areas close to shorelines need to think about this tragedy and explore ways to prepare in case somthing like this were to ever occur over here as well.
BTW, people really do need to give (https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp) whatever they can. I gave earlier and plan to again on payday.
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12-29-2004, 06:06 AM
In addition to the Red Cross (https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp) relief fund, there are other organizations that are collecting as well.
Americares (https://www.americares.org/donate/?id=South%20Asia%20Earthquake%20Relief%20Fund) has created the South Asia Earthquake Relief Fund. As well as the Network for Good (http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/international/earthquake/tsunami122604.aspx?source=YAHOO&cmpgn=HMPCRS), Unicef (http://www.unicef.org/index.html), as well as Oxfam (https://secure.ga3.org/02/asia_earthquake04).
I saw these on Yahoo so I figured I would share them in case you have a favorite organization that you like to make donations to. Either way though it's all for a good and much needed cause.
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Melrapuo
12-29-2004, 10:22 AM
Well...80,000 now. It's easily going to surpass 100,000. This is such a horrible tragedy.
Anyone else hear that Jet Li is among the missing? He was vacationing on the Maldives Islands with his family and his manager hasn't been able to get into contact with him since the tsunami. Don't have a link, although I've read other messageboards that have this posted.
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12-29-2004, 10:26 AM
Jet Li lives!!! (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/eo/20041228/en_celeb_eo/15599)
....the martial artist and his daughter were in their hotel lobby when a wall of water surged into the building. Li was dinged by a piece of floating furniture and sustained an foot injury, according to the Ming Pao Daily News, but managed to scoop up his daughter and escape relatively unharmed. After reaching higher ground, he was able to call his agent and let him know they were all right.
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curtoid
12-29-2004, 11:13 AM
How much do you think the United States should send in aid?
Currently we have pledged $35 million (up from $15 million), which might seem a lot, except when put into the context of this tragedy, or in the context of the upcoming Inauguration, which is going to cost $40 million.
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12-29-2004, 11:31 AM
According to Hong Kong's Apple Daily newspaper, which quoted an unnamed friend of Li's, the martial artist and his daughter were in their hotel lobby when a wall of water surged into the building.
So his character in Hero was based on his own friend. And how much you wanna bet a wall of water ends up in a Jet Li film?
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angrymissy
12-29-2004, 01:58 PM
Currently we have pledged $35 million (up from $15 million), which might seem a lot, except when put into the context of this tragedy, or in the context of the upcoming Inauguration, which is going to cost $40 million
Yeah I read that too. Bullshit. Almost a hundred thousand people are dead and we're spending more on Bushies inauguration.
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12-29-2004, 02:44 PM
While I agree that the initial money that the U.S. was giving was modest, I think that as time goes on that we will be giving much more than that. I also don't think it has anything to do with public pressure. The U.S. is a very giving country and I have no doubt that more money will be given.
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12-29-2004, 03:09 PM
The US is a very giving country
yeah, but at who's expense?
The changing face of poverty (http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/22/news/economy/poverty_overview/index.htm)
In the last few decades, pay for wealthier Americans has risen dramatically -- fueled by growth in salaries, bonuses, stock options and other compensation, Bernstein said. But wages for millions of lower-wage workers have dwindled. Many have lost their jobs altogether.
i guess where you wind up on the ladder is where your perspective will be
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Reephdweller
12-29-2004, 03:23 PM
I guess every fucking thing in this fucking world is fucking politics. I see people dying and people starving and all we can do is bicker about how little of this or that. I just want to see action and people being helped and some lives saved. It's shit like this that annoys me about politics.
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12-29-2004, 03:25 PM
What my nigga Reeshy said.
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12-29-2004, 03:28 PM
What did Reeshy say???? :quest:
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12-29-2004, 03:30 PM
What did Reeshy say????
I smell a new funny picture thread title.
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12-29-2004, 03:34 PM
What did Reeshy say????
I smell a new funny picture thread title.
But where is he? Did he post on this thread? I don't see his post anywhere here.
fluffernutter
12-29-2004, 04:50 PM
It feels really good to give these kind of donations in time of need. I fully enjoy giving what I can in the offering plate each week in church to help the mission services the UCC helps out. So much of a part of me wants to drop everything right now and just go and help but I know I just realistically can't. I can do what I can realisticly in my community and my hometown and it pains me I can't just drop everything and go and give of myself to help those in such dire need of help.
I just laid in bed last night and thought of how fortunate we are and how much we take for granted each and every day and even without the Tsunami there are so many in other parts of the world who struggle to just have a roof over their heads.
Try and give what you can folks. Jeff, thanks so much for posting the Red Cross links and thanks Reef for adding additional links to help lend a hand.
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12-29-2004, 05:41 PM
Powell has said that U.S. aid for this Tsunami will "run into the billions".
So far the aid is as follows:
US................$ 35,000,000
Japan............. 29,599,782
Australia............7,855,459
EU......................3,978,779
Canada..............3,389,830
China..................2,950,000
netherlands........2,652,520
Kuwait................2,000,000
Denmark.............1,800,000
Germany.............1,326,260
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12-29-2004, 05:46 PM
Thanks a lot Germany.... Way to give up a million bucks.
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12-29-2004, 05:50 PM
better than the other 190 countries that havent given shit
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mdr55
12-29-2004, 05:53 PM
Wow Japan's aid is almost as much as the U.S. and the U.S. is bigger.
EU is the Eurpoean Union??---that's like a whole bunch of countries right? So where's the money?
Where's the English???
Is the UN passing around the collection hat??
Reephdweller
12-29-2004, 05:53 PM
So far the aid is as follows:
US................$ 35,000,000
Japan............. 29,599,782
Australia............7,855,459
EU......................3,978,779
Canada..............3,389,830
China..................2,950,000
netherlands........2,652,520
Kuwait................2,000,000
Denmark.............1,800,000
Germany.............1,326,260
For all the criticism about the US, where the fuck is England in all this and how come they're not catching any heat?
Oh that's right spending billions of dollars for a fucking out of wack monarchy that is an absolute waste of money and run by pompus shitheads.
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12-29-2004, 05:54 PM
england would technically not be EU, they dont use euros, they are pounds, they havent given shit
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mdr55
12-29-2004, 05:57 PM
For all the criticism about the US, where the fuck is England in all this and how come they're not catching any heat?
Oh that's right spending billions of dollars for a fucking out of wack monarchy that is an absolute waste of money and run by pompus shitheads.
Dude...the American Revolution is over. Their our brothers now.
morecowbell11
12-29-2004, 09:56 PM
here are some videos of the tsunami from different locations. i had trouble picturing how a tidal wave could kill so many people but after watching some of these videos it becomes pretty clear, especially the one labeled "wow". very, very sad
tsunami videos (http://jlgolson.blogspot.com/2004/12/tsunami-video.html)
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badorties
12-30-2004, 06:14 AM
things keep getting worse ...
Tsunami Death Toll Rockets to 114,000 (http://news.yahoo.com/asiadisaster)
New tsunami alert triggers panic in India (http://www.guardian.co.uk/tsunami/story/0,15671,1380967,00.html)
Sri Lankans Panic After Tsunami Warning (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041230/wl_nm/quake_lanka_panic_dc)
and it's nice to see the media giving the west coast something else to fret over ... maybe bill hick's dream of arizona bay can come to fruition ...
Scientists: Tsunami Could Hit West Coast (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041230/ap_on_sc/quake_us_tsunamis)
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curtoid
12-30-2004, 06:27 AM
While I agree that the initial money that the U.S. was giving was modest, I think that as time goes on that we will be giving much more than that. I also don't think it has anything to do with public pressure. The U.S. is a very giving country and I have no doubt that more money will be given.
I understand that, however I really wish our President had been the first, not the last, of the major world leaders to speak about this. We are a very generous country, and it would have been an incredible opportunity to set the bar high, and lead by example. Now, no matter what we do, or how much we give, it's going to appear like we are playing catch up, or bowing to pressure.
It feels really good to give these kind of donations in time of need. I fully enjoy giving what I can in the offering plate each week in church to help the mission services the UCC helps out. So much of a part of me wants to drop everything right now and just go and help but I know I just realistically can't. I can do what I can realisticly in my community and my hometown and it pains me I can't just drop everything and go and give of myself to help those in such dire need of help.
I just laid in bed last night and thought of how fortunate we are and how much we take for granted each and every day and even without the Tsunami there are so many in other parts of the world who struggle to just have a roof over their heads.
Try and give what you can folks. Jeff, thanks so much for posting the Red Cross links and thanks Reef for adding additional links to help lend a hand.
I'm with you Fluff. I really am.
I've been talking to my friend who had to cancel her trip there, and she's feeling guilty about not going, although everyone she talks to tells her now would not be the time to go and try and help - the professional aid workers need to get in there first. Others would be getting in the way, and taking up valuable resources, like water and food. The time they will need others will be during the rebuilding.
The person she was going to meet there is all right, however he lost two friends - two sisters, from America, who had gone there and opened a restaurant on one of the beaches.
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Reephdweller
12-30-2004, 06:30 AM
I really wish our President had been the first, not the last, of the major world leaders to speak about this.
I completely agree with this. When it comes to reacting to world events and having a statement on them he is just absolutely god awful. There are many things I can be critical of with regards to Bush and this is one of them.
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gypsy
12-30-2004, 07:41 AM
35 Million does not sound like much, but the President has already said that we will supply money for the long run.
Hell, Nike and all of the american textile industry, who have exploited those people for years, should donate at least 35 million as a whole.
Is there anyway I can find out which charity will give more of my money to the actual cause?
TheMojoPin
12-30-2004, 07:47 AM
Is there anyway I can find out which charity will give more of my money to the actual cause?
There's plenty of charity watch groups out there...just do a Google search.
That said, a donation to the International Red Cross, which Jeff has linked to, is a pretty sure bet.
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curtoid
12-30-2004, 08:06 AM
That said, a donation to the International Red Cross, which Jeff has linked to, is a pretty sure bet.
Jeff was way ahead of the curve on this one.
Internet Sparks Outpouring of Instant Donations (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35263-2004Dec29.html/?nav=yahoolocal)
Reephdweller
12-30-2004, 09:17 AM
It's very good to see sites like this one, as well as amazon.com, ebay, google, and yahoo getting the word out on how to make donations.
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curtoid
12-30-2004, 09:23 AM
If you still want to do further research...
www.charitynavigator.org (http://www.charitynavigator.org/)
The USAID website (http://www.usaid.gov/) has a variety of NGOs you can give to.
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12-30-2004, 10:05 AM
Drudge is reporting Indonesia alone could have 400,000 dead.
The death toll in Acheh, the region worst hit by last Sunday's tsunami, may exceed 400,000 as many affected areas could still not be reached for search and rescue operations, Indonesia's Ambassador to Malaysia Drs H. Rusdihardjo said Thursday.
story (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5.htm)
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12-30-2004, 10:24 AM
The relief included the arrival of four C130 cargo planes in Thailand with food, water and sheltering material and a large supply of rice and other food and assistance was due to arrive in Indonesia by New Year's Eve, a senior U.S. official said.
Powell also alluded to the roughly $35 million in emergency aid already committed as "just a beginning."
"It's going to take a lot more," he said. "This is the time to make sure that we get a good needs assessment." The death toll there has reached more than 114,000.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/30/tsunami.US.ap/index.html
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Gave a donation to Americares. They are local. give most of the donation to the cause, and I have donated to them before.
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12-31-2004, 12:58 AM
You can search for your employer here, CASE Matching gift Clearing House (http://www.case.org/new_mg/company_search/company_search.cfm?keyword=99C12142-4973-4184-9774F882B7EB6408), to find out if they will match any of your contributions. My company will match 100% of any contribution, starting from $25 to $3000. Of course, they've never mentioned it to me before
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12-31-2004, 06:18 AM
http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2004-12/15658680.jpg
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furie
12-31-2004, 09:56 AM
U.S. Increases Tsunami Aid to $350 Million (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143002,00.html)
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12-31-2004, 11:20 AM
I just got this email from the NY Giants.
EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - In response to the worsening crisis in South Asia, the New York Giants have partnered with AmeriCares to conduct a monetary collection at Giants Stadium this Sunday night, prior to their game against the Dallas Cowboys, for those fans interested in financially contributing to the ongoing efforts to bring medicines, water purification treatments and other much needed relief supplies to the affected areas of Indonesia, India and Sri Lanka. AmeriCares volunteers will be located at each of the entrance gates to the stadium to collect all donations. This will be the first time the Giants have partnered with AmeriCares to host a stadium collection since Sunday, September 30, 2001, the first home game following the September 11th attacks.
So if you're going to the game, bring a little extra cash.
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kculG
12-31-2004, 11:01 PM
Hey doggies, I'm going to tailand as a humanitarian thing the Marine Corps and the us are doing. So expect to see the marines in asia by monday. Had to work on new years, but thats alright, watch for me on tv :)
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12-31-2004, 11:04 PM
Hey Gluck! Raise my post count please??????
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I'm not actually sure exactly what that pic is of. It might be of the "wall of water" but the article is not clear. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6769912/site/newsweek/)
Who lives in a body bag under the sea?
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kculG
12-31-2004, 11:11 PM
Why raise your post counts? they're just gona set it to 0 or something.
Justice4all
01-01-2005, 12:48 AM
http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2004-12/15658680.jpg
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I heard on the news this morning coming home that the black in the water was because of all the decomposing bodies. This thing is beyond anything we have seen yet. Death toll is at over 150,000 and rising.
To raise FMJeff's point, now they could fill Giants Stadium 2 times over with dead bodies. What a horrific thought.
Oh yes...if you want to see a video of the 'wall of water' click on here. it should be a link to it. (http://http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?video=Tsunami-Footage-3)
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Reephdweller
01-03-2005, 07:47 AM
President Bush on Monday tapped two former presidents - his father, President George H.W. Bush, and his predecessor, President Clinton - to lead a nationwide, private fund-raising campaign to help victims of the Asian tsunamis.
"I ask every American to contribute as they are able to do so," Bush said in the White House's Roosevelt Room, the two former presidents at his side.
Clinton and the first President Bush are to lead an effort to encourage the American people and businesses to support relief and reconstruction activities in areas devastated by the tsunamis, the president said.
I am encouraged that for the time being that partisan politics are being put by the side so that everything that can be done to help raise money and bring aid is being actually being done.
"This is a human tragedy that is really beyond comprehension and we want to make sure we're doing everything we can both from the government perspective as well as private support to help those who are suffering."
Bush himself has not yet made a personal contribution, but plans to give an unspecified amount, McClellan said.
Now if I were him, I would have made one prior to this, just to avoid looking stupid, but he's got a real knack for looking that way.
full story... (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050103/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_tsunami)
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01-03-2005, 08:28 AM
I am encouraged that for the time being that partisan politics are being put by the side so that everything that can be done to help raise money and bring aid is being actually being done.
I really wish that had been the case from the start - there were critics in the White House making snide public comments about "Feeling their pain" in response to Clinton's original public appearances.
Powell Does Not Anticipate Increase in Tsunami Aid From U.S. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44385-2005Jan3.html)
Title is actually misleading - he doesn't "anticipate" it, but isn't ruling it out. We're giving $350 million, and the World Bank is giving $250 million, however Japan is giving $500 million.
All of that is still going to be a drop in the bucket of what is going to be needed, and (in my opinion) does come across as a bit stingy when you factor in the almost $250 million we spend per month for the war in Iraq - or that in October we dropped $14.5 BILLION for Florida after their hurricanes.
angrymissy
01-03-2005, 11:24 AM
My evil pharmaceutical employer has dontated $4,000,000 cash and $4,000,000 worth of medical supplies and medication.
They are also matching all donations made by employees. I suggest if you work for a corporation and want to donate to the relief efforts, you check and see if your company will match it.
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BoondockSaint
01-03-2005, 11:51 AM
I hate Sandra Bullock but I applaud her for this. (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2329&u=/afp/20050103/ennew_afp/asiaquakeusaid_050103175950&printer=1)
Actress Sandra Bullock has given one million dollars to the American Red Cross to boost its tsunami relief campaign, the organisation said.
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angrymissy
01-03-2005, 12:46 PM
also just heard that Pzifer has donated $35,000,000 to match the intial amount put up by our government.
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Reephdweller
01-03-2005, 01:52 PM
Burbank - January 5, 2005 - In response to aid victims of the tsunami tragedy, NBC Universal Television Group will air a live benefit special across its broadcast and cable platforms on Saturday, January 15, 2005 at 8:00pm, it was announced today by Jeff Zucker, President, NBC Universal Television Group.
The hour-long, music and celebrity driven broadcast will air live to the East Coast, tape delayed on the West, on NBC, USA, Bravo, Trio, Sci-Fi, MSNBC and CNBC with phone lines remaining open throughout the evening.
Clear Channel has signed on as promotional partner and will promote the broadcast on their radio stations across the country. The special is being executive produced by Dave Broome of 25/7 Productions, Tony Eaton and Larry Kline of Tall Pony Productions.
Developing...
.... (http://www.drudgereport.com/flashzz.htm)
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curtoid
01-03-2005, 06:16 PM
Ron just mentioned the board, and gave Jeff a thanks for putting that up there.
Again - thank you and congrats, Jeff. It feels really good being ahead of the curve.
Reephdweller
01-03-2005, 08:16 PM
I got my company to change their corporate website include information on their efforts to help in the aid effort as well as to give links to the red cross. Felt really good to have it done. I pointed out how the competition was showing what they're doing and we need to be just as active in keeping customers up to date with what we're doing.
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Furtherman
01-04-2005, 10:01 AM
Some stories emerging from the tsunami:
Elephants saved tourists from tsunami (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3145501a4560,00.html)
Quick-thinking 10-year-old Tilly Smith is being hailed as a hero after saving her parents and dozens of fellow vacationers from the deadly tsunami - thanks to a school geography lesson. (http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/37579.htm)
His wife dreamed of floods, he built on stilts, and they survived Tsunami (http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Culture/4707.htm)
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ChildofFez
01-04-2005, 11:46 AM
just as i thought 2004 the beginning of the end...apparently 2004 was the highest number of natural disaters in one year than ever before...check it out these 2 websites
Information (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0921068.html)
Check it out (http://twm.co.nz/dec28_insglowm.htm)
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curtoid
01-04-2005, 12:16 PM
Some stories emerging from the tsunami:
Elephants saved tourists from tsunami (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3145501a4560,00.html)
Quick-thinking 10-year-old Tilly Smith is being hailed as a hero after saving her parents and dozens of fellow vacationers from the deadly tsunami - thanks to a school geography lesson. (http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/37579.htm)
His wife dreamed of floods, he built on stilts, and they survived Tsunami (http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Culture/4707.htm)
Thanks. I love to read about these.
To me the most under-reported stories from 9/11 was that 20,000 people survived the attacks.
TheMojoPin
01-04-2005, 12:21 PM
just as i thought 2004 the beginning of the end...apparently 2004 was the highest number of natural disaters in one year than ever before...check it out these 2 websites
That first link actually includes "manmade" diasters, like plane crashes, which obviously aren't the same as "natural disasters."
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01-04-2005, 12:26 PM
whoops didnt catch that sorry i didnt get a chance to look at all of it...sorry should checked before i posted my mistake
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01-04-2005, 01:32 PM
From an AP newswire story:
Despite the awesome power of the waves, survivors continued to turn up - even at sea.
Rizal Sapura, 23, was rescued by a Malaysian cargo ship in the Indian Ocean about 100 miles off Aceh province, said Adrian Arukiasamy, a spokesman for shipping company K-Line Maritime Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.
Crewmen on the container ship returning to Malaysia from South Africa spotted him Monday evening clinging to the branches of a floating tree, Arukiasamy said.
"It was certainly a miraculous survival," he said.
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Matthew 7:21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25. And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27. And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29. For he taught them as [one] having authority, and not as the scribes.
From websites I've read, DeLay himself added the emphasis to the bolded portions, although I haven't seen this myself. It was on CSPAN yesterday. Not only do I have a major problem with him, I have a problem with every single person in that room who didn't walk up to him and punch him straight in the face.
Who lives in a body bag under the sea?
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01-05-2005, 09:34 AM
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"SMiLE" Cellist Missing from Phuket. Brian Wilson Asks for Help.
Los Angeles, CA January 4, 2005 -- Markus Sandlund, one of the talented cellists from the Stockholm Strings and Horns who performed on Brian Wilson's album SMiLE, has been reported missing from Phuket, Thailand.
Markus Sandlund (born April 29, 1975) and his girlfriend, Sophia, traveled to Thailand after completing the SMiLE tour in Australia and New
Zealand. They were vacationing at the Orchid Beach Resort at Khao Lak (room 112) when the Tsunami hit.
At the time of the tsunami they were at the pool. Sophia was swept away by the flood and was later rescued. She is now back home in Sweden where she is still hospitalized, recovering from injuries. She has not seen Markus since the wave hit.
"I have been devastated since I heard the news that Markus is missing in Thailand," said Wilson. " We have sent an agent to see what we can find out, but as of today we have been unable to locate Marcus in the area. If there is anyone out there who might know Markus' whereabouts please contact info@brianwilson.com. My prayers go out to all of the victims and their families and I would ask you to say a prayer for Markus' safe
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Furtherman
01-05-2005, 10:27 AM
Tribe shoots arrows at aid flight (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4144405.stm)
An Indian helicopter dropping food and water over the remote Andaman and Nicobar Islands has been attacked by tribesmen using bows and arrows
I'm sure once they saw the iron bird was bringing food, they'd apoligize.
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01-05-2005, 10:54 AM
The gods must be CRAAAAA-ZAAAAAAAY!
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mdr55
01-05-2005, 11:14 AM
Did you see the article where this NASCAR driver pledged $10 fucking million dollars for the tsunami aid relief. That's a whole lot of money.
hurlmon
01-05-2005, 11:51 AM
It was Michael Schumacher and he's a Formula One driver not Nascar.
His body guard was killed in Phucket.
article here (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6786663/)
He made $80 Mil last year (http://commonknowledge.blogs.com/common_knowledge/2004/06/highest_paid_at.html)
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mdr55
01-05-2005, 11:59 AM
Holy Moley. Australia pledges $764 million. Crazy.
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01-05-2005, 12:42 PM
The cellist looks a lot like that boyband guy in space, Lance Bass.
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01-05-2005, 12:51 PM
The worst joke I ever heard this morning:
"It took 53 million for these people to finally take a bath"
Awful. I hate when Howard makes me chortle & snort.
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Reephdweller
01-05-2005, 12:52 PM
Australia pledges $764 million.
Stingy bastards!!
Hey, what did Austria give?
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mdr55
01-05-2005, 03:28 PM
George Bush gives $10,000 of his own money to the Tsunami fund. Nice.
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01-05-2005, 03:35 PM
It would be better if he donated 39 out of the FORTY MILLION earmarked for the Inauguration!
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01-06-2005, 06:20 AM
http://cdn.news.aol.com/aolnews_photos/0e/05/20050105094609990020
Rizal Shahputra (above), 23, said he was initially swept out to sea with other survivors and family members, but that one by one they drowned.
also....
Tsunami survivor expecting child (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/01/06/malaysia.survivor.ap/index.html)
An Indonesian tsunami survivor rescued after five days at sea learned Wednesday that she'll have her first baby in less than six months.
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gypsy
01-06-2005, 07:28 AM
Schumie gave 10 million dollars. Ahh, I still hate him and the Ferrari he rode in on. I wonder how much Ralf gave
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furie
01-06-2005, 04:45 PM
The United States government, however, should not give any money to help the tsunami victims. Why? Because the money is not the government's to give. (http://www.theatlasphere.com/metablog/000248.php)
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TheMojoPin
01-06-2005, 08:42 PM
The Ayn Rand Institute never wants to help ANYONE, so color me not impressed.
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Aggie
01-07-2005, 07:32 AM
A guy I work with has a friend who is a Rear Admiral and he just sent him an email with a few pics and a short description of what this one unit is doing. No surprises, I just thought it was interesting to hear it from their prespective.
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Subject: USS LINCOLN's HELO'S
The below from our west coast helo commodore....the two helo squadron idea was a "proof of concept" deployment to help set up the air wing of the future.
LINCOLN's CO is Capt Kendall Card, an HS helo guy...what a satisfying mission! Steve
Admirals,
With all the press we've been getting I thought I'd pass along a little information to you for SA. As you know LINCOLN is on station for post tsunami disaster relief. LIN and CAG-2 has 2 helicopter squadrons embarked , HS-2 and HSL-47. HS-2 has a complement of 4 Foxtrots and 3 Hotels, HSL-47 has 8 Bravos for a total of 15 helicopters in the CAG.
All 15 aircraft are full up and have been on the flight schedule every day. They fly as soon as the sun rises and don't shut down until after sunset. Their main mission is distribution of disaster relief supplies to the outlying areas where there is no access by road. As you are aware, that includes a significant amount of real estate and effects the lives of many thousands of people.
As you can see by the two attached photos, the LZs are fairly limited due either to flooding or debris. They use mostly sections of unwashed out roads. One of the biggest problems the aircrews run into are all the people rushing the aircraft. As of late, the Indonesian army have been very effective in keeping the people out of harms way which allows the aircraft to land and off load their supplies.
Both squadrons have received quite a bit of press as they do gods work. Attached is a link to the CBS web site that has the schedule for 60-minutes tonight. Dan Rather interviewed the skipper of HSL-47 and that interview is to be shown on 60-minutes tonight (I know this is late, especially for the east coast, but I've been tied up with
briefings all day, my apologies). I've also included the text of a note sent to the skippers of both HSL-47 and HS-2 and it was sent to them from the skipper of VFA-151, one of the embarked strike fighter squadrons. Nice words.
We do know LIN will remain on station for a while and, in fact, has been extended past her schedule rotation, but we don't know by how long. The Bon Homme Richard Expeditionary Strike Group in enroute to the area and the Marine ACE will assume most of the disaster relief distribution duties. This truly is a great effort by all.
You can be very proud of the efforts by both squadrons out on the tip doing the business of Naval Aviation. I know I am.
Very Respectfully, Tom
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/05/24/60II/main48284.shtml
Quote from Skipper Greene, CO VFA-151, CAG-2, LIN
Hunters and Saberhawks,
I just wanted to pass along to you all how impressed I have been with your operations these past few days. During normal operations, while we are all flying, we don't really get a chance to step back and take a good look at what is going on around us. During these past few days, I have had a unique opportunity to observe both of our Helo squadrons without the distraction of my own operations. It is nothing short of heroic.
The sprinting on the flight deck, the long flight hours, the late night turns, the health of your birds and the looks in your eyes are all testaments of your amazing pride and professionalism. This is your show and you are performing flawlessly. If you need anything at all to help you continue this amazing effort, please don't hesitate to call upon the Vigilantes.
We'll stand your watches, wash your planes, haul your chains or whatever you need; just ask...we've got your backs. It is awe inspiring and motivating to watch you all kick ass like you have been. I'm proud to be in the same Air Wing with you all.
furie
01-07-2005, 03:43 PM
It's amazing how it just scraped everything, even the vegitation, right off the ground.
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Bill From Yorktown
01-08-2005, 04:52 AM
Here are 14 before and after satellite images - ugh
CLICK HERE (http://homepage.mac.com/demark/tsunami/2.html)
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Bill From Yorktown
01-08-2005, 04:52 AM
Here are 14 before and after satellite images - ugh
CLICK HERE (http://homepage.mac.com/demark/tsunami/2.html)
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Bill From Yorktown
01-08-2005, 04:52 AM
yikes board acting up
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Yerdaddy
01-11-2005, 02:03 AM
There's a big problem (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050111/wl_asia_afp/asiaquakeindonesiaacehrebels_050111082152&e=2) in Aceh right now with the government and the military exploiting this tradgedy and our relief aid to clamp down on the Acehnese independence movement. They're even forcing US soldiers to conduct operations unarmed (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=516&ncid=731&e=4&u=/ap/20050111/ap_on_re_as/tsunami_disarming_the_marines). The idea that the rebels, GAM, would be attacking relief workers is absurd. I've followed the conflict for years and I've met some of the resistance leaders personally, and their conduct in the past reflects their long-held desire to win support from the international community, not to destroy it. If you read the past State Dept. Country Reports on Human Rights you'll see that the greatest abusers of human rights and international law have been the Indonesian military.
Now they and the government are trying to use the tradgedy in Aceh against the rebels and, as always it will be the people who suffer. This is a situation where our aid contributions will go to either help or hurt the people who have already suffered the most. I've written to my representatives this morning and I hope some of you will do the same. If you want to call or email, you can use my quick one as a model if you like. If I find out about specific Congressional action that you can request your reps to join I'll post it. For background on the conflict go to the websites of International Crisis Group (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/cfr/international/slot3_010705.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="_blank">here's an interview from a few days ago from a very knowledgable and respected source</a>), Human Rights Watch, or the CIA Factbook.
Dear
I'm a resident of Westminster, CO, travelling in the Middle East. I am deeply disturbed by today's media reports that the Indonesian military has been controlling the relief efforts in Aceh province, the most harshly effect area of this catastrophe, has prevented aid from reaching areas it suspects of supporting the independence movement, and that the government of Indonesia has authorized broad military restriction of the work of aid agencies. This is an unacceptable situation as the international relief agencies are the most qualified to provide international aid, and especially given the Indonesian security forces' history of gross human rights abuses against the Acehnese people, as reported every year in the State Department's annual report on international human rights. Leading human rights organizations like Human Rights Watch and International Crisis group are warning the international community that the rationalle for these military restrictions - that they are to protect international aid workers from the Free Aceh Movement - are disingenuous attempt to reassert military control over the province.
The Indonesian government cannot be allowed to exploit this tragedy and American generocity by using our relief efforts as a weapon in its military campaign. I strongly urge you to contact the government of Indonesia and demand that restrictions be lifted and control of relief efforts be removed from the military and placed in the hands of international relief agencies where it belongs. I also urge you to contact the office of Secretary of State Colin Powell and urge him to make the same demands on the Indonesian government. If the situation does not change I hope you would sponsor or support legislative action to achieve the same ends.
Sincerely,
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Fuck it from behind.
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In this photo released by the Arab-based container vessel Al Yamamah, a raft carrying tsunami survivor, Indonesian Ari Afrizal, drifts on the sea Sunday, Jan. 9, 2005 before being rescued and brought to the West Port, outskirts of Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Ari, 21, says he drifted on the Indian Ocean for two weeks, living on coconuts that he pried open with his teeth while floating on pieces of wood, then a broken boat, and finally a fishing raft.
But was he able to save Wilson?
Jesus, right out a movie. Unbelievable this man survived.
Iamnotatool
01-18-2005, 08:10 AM
It disrupted a porn shoot....NSFW (http://www.hoes.ca/Tsunami_Disrupts_Porn_Shoot.html)
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DJEvelEd
02-13-2005, 06:47 AM
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These fuckers look pretty mean!!!
Deep Sea Creatures - Found At Seaside After TSUNAMI (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/seacreatures.html)
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BoondockSaint
02-13-2005, 07:43 AM
These fuckers look pretty mean!!!
Deep Sea Creatures - Found At Seaside After TSUNAMI (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/seacreatures.html)
It's a hoax! Sort of. The creatures are real but have nothing to do with the tsunami. (http://www.snopes.com/photos/tsunami/creature.asp )
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Furtherman
01-04-2010, 08:37 AM
WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) - A tsunami unleashed by a major earthquake plowed into the Solomon Islands on Monday with the crashing waters devastating at least one village.
Initial reports said no one was seriously hurt.
A series of major quakes have rocked the South Pacific region since Sunday, with three powerful temblors striking Monday, including a 7.2 magnitude tremor. The Solomon Island's National Disaster Management Office said reports of the devastation were beginning to filter in late Monday.
The tremors were centered beneath the ocean floor near the town of Gizo, which was badly damaged in April 2007 when a 8.1-magnitude quake sent a tsunami crashing into the coast, killing more than 50 people.
Monday's tsunami devastated a village on Rendova Island, some 188 miles (300 kilometers) from the capital Honiara, disaster management official Loti Yates told The Associated Press.
"One report from police was that one village was hit by a 6 to 10 foot (2-3 meter) wall of sea water," Yates said. "It was a total inundation police saw in a fly over."
Rendova is home to about 3,600 people.
Yates said in Baniata village on Rendova's coast, 16 houses were destroyed and 32 damaged by the quake and the wave.
"It could be several hundred houses have been damaged ... but that is still not verified," said Yates. "There are two to three villages where the situation could be much worse."
Ten foreign tourists were staying on Tetepare Island, an uninhabited eco-tourism site, and the four Germans, four Britons and two New Zealanders were evacuated. Unconfirmed reports said two had been injured.
Yates said there were no other reports of injuries. "We're lucky that whatever happened happened during the day and people were able to hike up the hills," he said
Two helicopters and a police boat were carrying out damage assessments and a vessel carrying water, food and tarpaulins was dispatched from Honiara.
The U.S. Geological Survey recorded eight earthquakes in the region since late Sunday. The magnitude 7.2 was centered 64 miles (103 kilometers) southeast of Gizo, and followed a magnitude 6.5 tremor less than two hours earlier centered 54 miles (90 kilometers) southeast of Gizo at a depth of 6 miles (10 kilometers).
The latest aftershock was magnitude 6.1 and struck late Monday, 22 miles (36 kilometers) southeast of Gizo, U.S. Geological Survey said in a statement.
Pacific Tsunami Warning Center geophysicist Gerard Fryer in Hawaii said it was too small to create a tsunami. There were no immediate reports of damage.
The Solomon Islands lie on the "Ring of Fire" - an arc of earthquake and volcanic zones that stretches around the Pacific Rim and where about 90 percent of the world's quakes occur.
ozzie
12-20-2011, 10:00 AM
Giant Tsunami-Shaped Clouds Roll Across Alabama Sky (http://news.yahoo.com/giant-tsunami-shape-clouds-roll-across-alabama-sky-192102289.html)
Anyone ever saw some shit like this before?
Pictures from last Friday in Birmingham, AL:
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http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2011/12/birmingham-clouds.jpg
disneyspy
12-20-2011, 10:01 AM
roll tide!
Furtherman
12-20-2011, 10:12 AM
Giant Tsunami-Shaped Clouds Roll Across Alabama Sky (http://news.yahoo.com/giant-tsunami-shape-clouds-roll-across-alabama-sky-192102289.html)
Anyone ever saw some shit like this before?
Pictures from last Friday in Birmingham, AL:
Nope. Cool, right? Saw some video of that too. What a sight!
sailor
12-20-2011, 10:13 AM
roll tide!
Ha! But roll sky might have worked better.
ozzie
12-20-2011, 10:17 AM
Nope. Cool, right? Saw some video of that too. What a sight!
Looks like something Dr. Seuss would draw in the skies over Whoville.
Shit doesn't even look real.
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