US Navy to Destroy America

[HBox]

US Navy plans to send America to bottom of Atlantic. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7081234/)

I always knew they'd turn on us.

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[PapaBear]

How the hell does it cost 22 million bucks to sink a ship?

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[Doogie]

This is a shame, cause this was one of the first new carriers built and commisioned for the deployment of jet fighters. But as they say, at least it shall go down in tests that hopefully will save countless service members in the future. I just think they should have of used some other ship like the Forrestal, or Kitty Hawk instead of the America.

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[A.J.]

Actually, it was USS Forrestal (http://forrestal.org/fidfacts/) and the Forrestal class that were built for jets before America was.

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[PapaBear]

I just think they should have of used some other ship like the Forrestal, or Kitty Hawk instead of the America.

One of my uncles served on the Forrestal. It's story is amazing (just ask John McCain). When I was in Navy boot camp in 1988, the story of the Forrestal (AKA USS ForestFire) was a classroom topic on the history of shipboard firefighting.

[FMJeff]

its good to know that SOME of the of the enviromental damaging materials were removed...

cause it be a real pain in the ass to remove all of them before sending it the ocean floor, where the ecosystem is even more delicate than a tropical reef...

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[Doogie]

Actually, it was USS Forrestal and the Forrestal class that were built for jets before America was


If ya noticed what I said, Pete Picky, that it was one of the first carriers built exclusively for the jet age. The Essex class carriers that were built during the WWII era were modified to carry jet aircraft, but unfortunatly they werent large enough for the task at hand and were relinqueshed to Anti-Sub Warfare (ASW) duties. The Forrestals were first, but I was just too lazy to do real research in the books that I had available and knew the America was among one of the first built for the jet age.

It goes back again to my argument about when do we get too nastalgic. The fact of the matter is the US Navy is still trying to atone for the sin of losing one of the great mantle pieces of a museum when they let the USS Enterprise be scrapped instead of being turned into a museum. She fought in 19 of the 20 major sea battles (She missed Coral Sea, May 1942 by one day having come fresh from the 'Doolittle Raids') of WWII and at one point was the only major carrier we had in the Pacific at one time (from Nov 1942-Jan 1943) The Enterprise was a state of the art carrier when launched in 1936 and was unfortunalty killed cause of the then state of the art sputnik, launched in 1957 which in turn killed the funding for the USS Enterprise museum. Since then the Navy has had the pain staking task of deciding which ships to save and which to scrap. In all honesty, 5 ships TOTAL should have been museums: The USS Constitution (Museum in Boston Harbor), The USS Montior (lost off South Carolina-1863), The USS Oregon (Museum in Phillie), The USS Enterprise (Scrapped, Bayonne 1958-1959) and the USS Missouri (Museum- Honolulu, Hawaii). But that is just one historians opinion.

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[DarkHippie]

It would've made a nice museum.

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[A.J.]

If ya noticed what I said, Pete Picky, that it was one of the first carriers built exclusively for the jet age.

I understood -- I was just pointing put, FYI, that the construction of Forrestal predated the construction of America. I work for the Navy -- I couldn't help myself. :)

The point I should have made, and I'm sure you'll agree, is that the Forrestal class was the first designed with the angled deck you see in all subsequent aircraft carriers.

The next generation carrier, CVX, has a slightly different, more stealthy proposed design:

http://www.mediacen.navy.mil/pubs/allhands/Jan99/cvx.jpg

And while the first USS Enterprise was scrapped, I think that the current one, CVN-65, the first nuclear carrier, will be made into a museum.

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[Doogie]

I understood -- I was just pointing put, FYI, that the construction of Forrestal predated the construction of America. I work for the Navy -- I couldn't help myself.


I hear ya. No harm no foul. :)

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[PapaBear]

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I wish she would have ended up like the America.

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[TheMojoPin]

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[A.J.]

I understood -- I was just pointing put, FYI, that the construction of Forrestal predated the construction of America. I work for the Navy -- I couldn't help myself. :)

The point I should have made, and I'm sure you'll agree, is that the Forrestal class was the first designed with the angled deck you see in all subsequent aircraft carriers.

The next generation carrier, CVX, has a slightly different, more stealthy proposed design:

http://www.mediacen.navy.mil/pubs/allhands/Jan99/cvx.jpg

And while the first USS Enterprise was scrapped, I think that the current one, CVN-65, the first nuclear carrier, will be made into a museum.

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Well, it won't be a museum after all. But, as Captain Picard pointed out, it won't be the last ship to carry the name Enterprise. (http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15708)

[brettmojo]

Are they really naming a class of ships after Gerald Ford?

[A.J.]

Yes, they announced it shortly after he died. He was a LCDR in the Navy during WWII and served aboard a carrier.

Jimmy Carter is former Navy too but he served aboard subs so they named the last Seawolf-class sub after him. He's the only President who had a sub named after him -- all others had carriers. There's an odd exception: FDR had a carrier named after him but that ship was decomissioned years ago. The Arleigh Burke class destroyer USS Roosevelt is named for both FDR AND Eleanor Roosevelt.

[brettmojo]

Yes, they announced it shortly after he died. He was a LCDR in the Navy during WWII and served aboard a carrier.

Jimmy Carter is former Navy too but he served aboard subs so they named the last Seawolf-class sub after him. He's the only President who had a sub named after him -- all others had carriers. There's an odd exception: FDR had a carrier named after him but that ship was decomissioned years ago. The Arleigh Burke class destroyer USS Roosevelt is named for both FDR AND Eleanor Roosevelt.

They named a Delta Burke class frigate the USS William Taft but it sank immediately upon hitting the water...