View Full Version : Did Ken Shamrock take a dive?
Iamnotatool
04-13-2005, 09:57 AM
<p>The UFC deal this weekend, I thought it looked odd that Kenny was going down before he even got hit. I thought maybe he was going for a leg lock, but it looked goofy. Then he went for the kick and "slipped"</p><p> </p><p>What do you think?</p><p> </p><p><img border="0" src="http://www.fightreport.net/gifs/shamrock_flop.gif" /></p>
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Tall_James
04-13-2005, 10:03 AM
<p>OK. I know shit about UFC but found it nice that you actually show the video clip in order to help people to come to their own decision.</p><p>That's quality posting people. You newbies could learn something from watching this man post. Keep up the good work.</p><p>BTW - You suck in Fantasy Basketball. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/lol.gif" border="0" /></p><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=tall_james" border="0" /><br /><a href="http://cheeseeatingbird.blogspot.com/" target="blank">The Cheese-Eating Bird</a>
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Iamnotatool
04-13-2005, 10:08 AM
<p>TJ, thanks for the props. </p><p> </p><p>I dont suck at fantasy basketball you bastard!! It's baseball season, I just lost interest...lol</p><p> </p><p>OK, I rot.</p><p> </p><p>So did Kenny take a dive? Anyone?</p>
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Kevin
04-13-2005, 10:25 AM
From there it looks to obvious tool. If he was gunna take a dive he would just gotten clocked and fell. it looks like his knee just buckled and then he got clocked because of it.
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King Imp
04-13-2005, 10:30 AM
<p>Wow, nice clip. I assumed he slipped since he was obviously having trouble with his footing, but from that clip it clearly looks like he just drops for no apparant reason. </p>
Kevin
04-13-2005, 10:42 AM
Tool. Did he get Knocked out in that sequence? if he did its def a dive.
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PhishHead
04-13-2005, 11:01 AM
No that wasnt the sequence...that was the first slip by Shamrock. In that sequence he actually ended up with an ankle lock on Franklin and almost had it fully locked and Franklin was able to squirm out of it. It was the next slip that franklin jumped on Shamrock and started to pound him.
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FUNKMAN
04-13-2005, 11:07 AM
<p>that was such a dive i thought i was watching Greg Louganis...</p>
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JPMNICK
04-13-2005, 11:11 AM
<p>BTW, i suck at Fantasy baseball. I am in last and losing more points daily. </p><p> </p><p>And it def. did look like he took a fall. </p>
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Neogoon
04-13-2005, 11:13 AM
<p> </p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p>The
UFC deal this weekend, I thought it looked odd that Kenny was going
down before he even got hit. I thought maybe he was going for a leg
lock, but it looked goofy. Then he went for the kick and "slipped"</p><p> </p><p>What do you think?</p><p> </p><br />
I think I still don't like 1 megabyte animated gifs to simulate video in Web pages.<p> </p><p>Re:
Mr. Shamrock -- if you focus on his left foot, it looks like he either
misstep or his toe got stuck and started to go en pointe (like a
ballerina), which obviously isn't stable.</p><p>I did think it was odd,
though, when he went for that head-level kick, without setting it up
with something else. That seemed kind of silly and asking for trouble.<br />
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Kevin
04-13-2005, 11:16 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>that was such a dive i thought i was watching Greg Louganis...</p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/monster6sixty6/guests/fm3_sig.jpg" border="0" /> baadaam paaam pisssssh
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JPMNICK
04-13-2005, 11:22 AM
<p>Upon Further Review I do nto think it was a dive. </p><p>It looks like he was setting up a move, and then 1/2 way throught it saw that punch coming and was trying to stop himself. </p>
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BoondockSaint
04-13-2005, 11:30 AM
Like PhishHead said, that's not when he lost the fight. He actually almost won the fight 2 seconds after that clip ends.
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Iamnotatool
04-13-2005, 12:09 PM
<p>Maybe, or maybe he let him slip out of the hold. He's giving the guy a push. A new up and comer like that, got a good rub for beating a legend. </p><p>The kick after that led to the victory was awfully peculiar, and I'm just saying I think it was a dive.</p>
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torker
04-13-2005, 12:19 PM
<p>watch his left leg</p><p>it's not a dive, he just sucks<br /><img height="171" src="http://www.sandiegomag.com/issues/june99/images/eyeon1.jpg" width="113" border="0" /></p><p>always has, always will</p><p> </p><p>ps~the fight before his was awesome</p><p>pss~<img height="31" src="http://www.bc.edu/offices/help/meta-elements/gif/icons/lock-sm.gif" width="35" border="0" /></p><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~rmfallon/RFnettorker1313.jpg" border="0" /> <strong><em><font color="#0000ff">Tell me, Sister Morphine, how long have I been lying here? </font></em></strong>
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DESERTEAGLE.50
04-13-2005, 04:04 PM
<p>why would you wanna lock this thread?</p><p>its a good thread</p><p> </p><p>its got action </p>
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Iamnotatool
04-13-2005, 04:13 PM
<p>All I'm saying is it looked really fishy, especially now looking back on it. </p><p>Why throw that high kick to the kids face outta nowhere, it isn't Ken's style. Good for the UFC giving Shamrock the chance to shine on their 1st ever cable night. You might not like him, but Shamrock did tons for that sport.</p><p>I just think he mighta taken a fall to give the kid a little push. Don't get me wrong, at the end, Shamrock took some fucking haymakers, and was obviously dizzy postfight. </p><p> </p><p>Torker, you playahatin?</p>
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torker
04-13-2005, 04:59 PM
<p></p><p>why would you wanna lock this thread?</p><p>its a good thread</p><p> </p><p>its got action </p><p>Torker, you playahatin?</p><p> </p><p>no, I love this shit.</p><p>there was a UFC thread</p><p>tool, it was kinda like that vega bega (?) chick photo thread yesterday </p><p>but you're right, the heat is here so why kill it </p><p>ps~bite my shiny metal cock</p><p><img src="http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/animated/bender_dance2_animate.gif" border="0" /></p>
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shamus mcfitzy
04-15-2005, 01:08 AM
i don't know but UFC looks awkward everytime i see it (although admittedly i may have only seen 3 of their ppvs and not this specific show). I don't think he's throwing the fight, I think that Ken is just awkwardly trying to get down and grab the guy's ankle but gets punched right in the face in the process. He may have originally been trying to just drop a certain way and because he gets punched on the way down he doesn't get down the way he was hoping.
furie
04-15-2005, 06:38 AM
i was watching it when it happened. I think he just honestly slipped.
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DarkHippie
04-15-2005, 08:58 AM
It looks like he hyperextends his left ankle, which is freakin hard to do, He must've been sliding into an ankle lock and his foot got caught in the mat while his momentum kept going forward
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Heavy
04-15-2005, 11:32 PM
<p>Kens not much of anything anymore.7-10 years ago he was a top name now he's just hanging on. You can download the Shamrock - Tito Ortiz match from UFC 42 I think, and watch Ken get his face pounded from above for a good 3 rounds. He was talking all sorts of shit about teaching Tito respect and whatnot. Got beat the fuck down. Watch that and its not hard to believe hes just punchy and falling down all by himself. </p><p> </p><p>Speaking of this shit we have couture - liddel tonight. I'm hoping chuck can catch him with a few good ones and finally knock that fucker out</p>
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Snoogans
04-16-2005, 05:07 AM
thats a goddamn dive if ive ever seen one, that was Dennis Rodmanesque right there<br />
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Crippler
04-16-2005, 07:09 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>Speaking of this shit we have couture - liddel tonight. I'm hoping chuck can catch him with a few good ones and finally knock that fucker out</p><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=JohneeWadd" border="0" /> A proportionate amount of props are equally distributed to my nigga's Fluff, Alexxis, CanOfSoup15, WWFallon and Katylina HORDE KING FOREVER!!! ORACLE NEVER!!! <br />After watching the show & hearing Rogan talk about it on O&A, I really want to watch this tonight but I don't have an addressable cable box. I wish they offered webcasts like WWE does for their PPVs.
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Heavy
04-16-2005, 11:05 AM
I'm hoping someone throws it up on the net like most of the other big fights have been. that or wait to buy the DVD when it comes out.
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