<p> </p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;"><br />
</font><p>No, I'm really not.</p><p>Germany
for the first half of the 20th Century can suck my balls. Man, those
TWO World Wars with Germany trying to kick everyone's asses were just
some CRAAAAAAAZY coincidences!</p><p>Germany SINCE WW2? Fine by
me...but I honestly do not trust older Germans that grew up in that
country in the first 50 years of the last century. Seriously. Yes,
there were dissidents, but for the most part, the BULK of the country
went along with and supported the movements that started two seperate
world wars and killed millions of people, and that's not an
exaggeration in the slightest. Watch any documentaries on Germany from
those 50 years...not just the war ones, the ones that focus on just
everyday life. They have NO problem finding German citizens
(non-soldiers/politicians/Nazis/etc.) who spout the standard, "yes, I
know what happened was wrong NOW" line, and then happily try and dance
around the very clear notion of, "oh, but despite the bad things, it
was such a great time for Germany!" The majority of the German
population between 1900 and 1945 willfully supported ANY political,
social and military movement that was "pro-German," no matter what the
cost to other people or countries. It was a unified national mindset
that was and is utterly terrifying, and is specifically studied to this
day as something very unique in modern history.</p><p>It WAS a form of
brainwashing...and far too many Germans of that time were unable to
shake it off and live with the feelings of that time to this day.
Whether by choice or by force, I simply do not trust Germans who were
born and bred in Germany during and between the two world wars, this
pope included. Maybe he just didn't want to be a soldier...doesn't mean
he didn't share other aspects of Nazi politcs in his own worldview. I
flat-out do not trust the man, a lot of that because of where and how
he was raised. The Catholic Church from the Vatican had a very
comfortable political relationship with Nazi Germany before and during
WW2, so him becoming a member of the Vatican elite doesn't exactly
inspire me to think it would have automatically "cleansed" him of any
indoctrination he grew up with in Nazi Germany.</p><p>Do I "hate all
German people?" Of course not. I'm simply wary of those from a few
certain decades. Doesn't make me right about them all...nor am I
assuming I am.</p><p>And even without his faux-Nazi past, this new pope
is still a hatemongering cunt, so fuck him especially. Maybe he doesn't
hate Jews, but hating gay people is just fine and dandy. Whoopsies!</p><p>I'm
a born and raised Catholic myself, and this pope represents everything
politically and socially that makes me question and doubt my own
religion.</p><br /><br />
<font color="black" /><font color="black"><font color="black"><br />First
of all, most historians will tell you that the shit deal Germany got
(From Woodrow Wilson) at Versailles
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwone/versailles_01.shtml" target="blank">Link</a>
after WW1 led to WW2, so we get some blame on the conditions that led
to WW2. A very proud people were humiliated and could barely feed
themselves. No surprise they found a scapegoat, and Nationalism held
such appeal. <br />
</font></font><p><font color="black"><font color="black"> </font></font></p><p><font color="black"><font color="black">Second, nobody except those involved and the higher ups knew
what was going on in the death camps until the very end of the war, and
most of the killing was done at the very end of the war. There were
rumors, but there are lots of rumors during wartime. And I'll remind
you racial internment camps were not uncommon, we had quite a few of
our own. It's easy to judge everyone after the fact, knowing what we
know now. I've NEVER seen any evid