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<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7692172/site/newsweek/">I hope this one doesn't pick up steam like the Schiavo fiasco.</a> </p><p> </p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>The 13-year-old girl couldn't comprehend why she was in a courtroom.
Her life had already been roiled enough. A ward of the Florida
Department of Children and Families (DCF), she discovered a few weeks
ago that she was pregnant, and, unprepared to cope as a teen mother,
decided to have an abortion.<p> </p><p>But last Tuesday—the day of the scheduled
procedure—the agency secured a court injunction to prevent her from
following through. Now the girl, identified as L.G. in court documents,
had to endure the added agony of justifying herself before a judge.
"Why can't I make my own decision?" she asked Palm Beach County Judge
Ronald Alvarez at a hearing on Thursday. "What is it that you don't
understand?"</p><p>Feisty and defiant, she
appealed to his reason: "I don't think I should have the baby because
I'm 13, I'm in a shelter and I can't get a job."</p> <br />
<p> </p><p><font face="Century Gothic"><font color="Navy"><font size="2">And then there's the
last paragraph of the article, which deserves much more prominent
placement than the ass end.</font></font></font></p><p> </p><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif" color="#000000"><font style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>The abortion fight may obscure what many observers consider a far more
pressing concern: DCF incompetence. The scandal-plagued agency made
national news in 2002 when it acknowledged that it had lost track of
Rilya Wilson, a 5-year-old under its custody. <strong>It still can't account
for over 500 kids whom it's responsible for, according to The Miami
Herald.</strong> At the Thursday hearing, Judge Alvarez directed his outrage at
DCF for never alerting the court to L.G.'s flight from her group home.
"To say that I am angry at that would be an understatement," Alvarez
said, questioning why DCF rushed to prevent an abortion but not to find
a missing child (DCF counters that it alerted authorities in Pinellas
County, where L.G.'s group home was). "I don't know where our
priorities in life are," Alvarez said. "The priorities should have been
to make certain that an order to take [L.G.] into custody was issued as
soon as possible ... But nobody cared."</font><font face="Century Gothic"><font color="Navy"><br />
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<font color=black>This message was edited by HBox on 4-30-05 @ 10:53 PM</font>
TheMojoPin
04-30-2005, 07:31 PM
<p>Well, if you're having sex at 13 FUCKING YEARS OF AGE...</p><p>*Sigh*</p><p>That in and of itself pisses me off, and the evil side of me says she deserved to get pregnant...but that's not fair to the baby that'll be born to this idiot.</p><p>Unless there's someone stable and willing to adopt the kid practically as it pops out of her womb, I say let her get the abortion...otherwise that child is in for a life of misery, and the chance of it dying young are WAY too high.</p><p>Do they know who got her pregnant? If it was anyone over the age of 15, they should be castrated for life.</p><p>And I'm sorry if I sound harsh with the first part of this post...but who is having sex willingly at 13!?!?</p>
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keithy_19
04-30-2005, 08:26 PM
<p>Let her have the kid. Just because she's a whore doesn't mean a baby shouldn't be born. </p>
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TheMojoPin
04-30-2005, 08:30 PM
<p>And you want her to raise that kid?</p><p>Do you think she even can?</p>
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TheMojoPin
04-30-2005, 08:36 PM
<p>And just because you're a pathetic geek doesn't make her a whore.</p><p>*WINK-FUCKING-WINK*</p>
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spoon
04-30-2005, 11:04 PM
<p>I'm willing to bet this kid is the result of a young mother herself. To call a 13 year old a whore is pretty sad, if not ruthless. I'm no bleeding heart liberal, but obviously her family failed her, followed closely by the state/system. I guess we should ask the only question left that makes sense, WWTDD? Just what would Tom Delay do? He did in fact pull the plug once before on a family member.........</p>
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<p>...but who is having sex willingly at 13!?!?</p><p>Mrs. Jerry Lee Lewis?</p>
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05-01-2005, 04:45 AM
<p>Wonderful journalism, but what do you expect from Newsweek</p><p>She "had to endure the added agony of justifying herself before a judge"</p><p>"she appealed to his reason . . . . But reason may only get her so far" </p><p>"a vulnerable individual lies powerlessly in the middle"</p><p>No bias here. Straight down the middle, with equal respect shown to both sides of the argument. </p><p>I
expect this horseshit from The Nation, Newsmax, etc. But they're
opinion journals. Not from a publication that CLAIMS to be giving you
news. </p>
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BoxyBrown
05-01-2005, 06:08 AM
<p>Boxy says...</p><p>HE'S the father! Boxy has a lot of seed to spread around.</p>
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05-01-2005, 09:45 AM
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<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-pabortion30apr30,0,700609.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines">Here's a straight news article about this case. Bulldog is right, that Newsweek piece was biased beyond hell. </a></p>
<p><font face="Century Gothic" color="Navy"><font size="2">I have no idea what i think on this issue,
other than Florida's DCF is an even bigger embarrassment than NJ's
DYFUS, and that I hope this doesn't balloon into another Schiavo
fiasco. And whatever you think about abortion, it is not DCF's place to
intervene for obvious idelogical reasons. State organizations should
enforce and follow the law, not try to undermine it. This is third
fucking time DCF has pulled something like this and it's hit the news.
How many times do they pull shit and it isn't
reported?</font></font><br />
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DJEvelEd
05-01-2005, 08:22 PM
<p><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Unless there's someone stable and willing to adopt the kid practically as it pops out of her womb</font><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></p><p> </p><p>She should just consider herself a surrogate mother then. At least she'll sleep good at night.</p>
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angrymissy
05-02-2005, 07:07 AM
<p> </p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Let her have the kid. Just because she's a whore doesn't mean a baby shouldn't be born.</font><p> </p><p>You are a fucking asshole to call a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD who got pregnant a whore. I mean, wow.</p><p>She
obviously will not be able to care for a baby, considering she is 13,
and does not even have family that can care for a baby, considering she
is in foster care. </p><p>State Law for Florida is:</p><p><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Florida</strong><br />
The Law: Currently, you do not need parent permission to have
an abortion. However, there is a law which requires girls younger
than 18 to get permission from one parent to have an abortion.
<em><strong>This law is not being enforced because of a court order</strong></em>. Call
a clinic for more information</font></p><p>This
is just another example of Jeb Bush trying to take the law into his own
hands, regardless of what the standing statue is.</p><p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">And I'm sorry if I sound harsh with the first part of this post...but who is having sex willingly at 13!?!?</font></p><p>Well,
in my middle school/high school, there were plenty of girls aged 12, 13
banging much much older boyfriends. Older enough that they would
pick them up from middle school in a car. It was commonplace for
12, 13 year olds to be dating 17 or 18 year olds. This was not
the ghetto either, it was in a well-off school district in
Westchester. </p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">
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angrymissy
05-02-2005, 07:16 AM
<p>Also, abortion in Florida is banned after 12 weeks. They can
probably hold this up in the courts for 12 weeks and then this 13 year
old will not be able to legally get an abortion.</p><p>Jeb Bush did the
same thing last year when a mentally challenged woman became pregnant
and tried to get an abortion. The case was brought to court, he
tried to appoint a "guardian" for her fucking fetus, and the case was
held up for so long that she eventually had the baby. </p>
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DeltaPin
05-02-2005, 09:12 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>And I'm sorry if I sound harsh with the first part of this post...but who is having sex willingly at 13!?!?</p>Isn't having sex with a 13 year old considered satutory rape? <br />
TheMojoPin
05-02-2005, 09:46 AM
If the other person having sex with them is 18 or above.
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