What the bloody fuck is THIS?!?

[TheMojoPin]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><strong>What's all the fuss with the Real ID Act about?</strong> <br />President Bush is expected to sign an $82 billion <a href="http://dw.com.com/redir?destUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fthomas.loc.gov%2Fcgi-bin%2Fbdquery%2Fz%3Fd109%3Ah.r.01268%3A&siteId=3&oId=2100-1028-5697111&ontId=1023&lop=nl.ex" target="_blank">military spending bill</a> soon that will, in part, create electronically readable, federally approved ID cards for Americans. The House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved the package--which includes the <a title="National ID cards on the way? -- Monday, Feb 14, 2005" href="http://www.ronfez.net/National+ID+cards+on+the+way/2100-1028_3-5573414.html?tag=nl">Real ID Act</a>--on Thursday. <p><strong>What does that mean for me?</strong><br />Starting three years from now, if you live or work in the United States, you'll need a federally approved ID card to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service. Practically speaking, your driver's license likely will have to be reissued to meet federal standards. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://news.com.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html" target="_blank">Visit this Website</a></p><p>Fuck that noise!</p><p>When did this come about?!?</p><p>If there's a Republican alive doesn't oppose this as &quot;big government&quot; at its worst, they're living a lie.</p><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> 1979 &lt;&lt; On the streets of your town... &gt;&gt; &quot;You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad...&quot;

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[PapaBear]

<p><strong><em><font size="4">YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE!!!</font></em></strong></p><p><img height="217" src="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/holocaust/images/timeintro_krakow.jpg" width="345" border="0" /></p><p>We're one step away from having our ID's on micro chips, implanted in our bodies. There is already one company (at least) that has these things for sale. How long before they are required?</p><p>And to think... people actually call the &quot;tin foil hat&quot; people crazy!</p>

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[HBox]

Wow. We find out about this
after its passed. I guess the media just surrendered and gave
up.<br />


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[A.J.]

<p>President Bush is expected to sign an $82 billion <a href="http://dw.com.com/redir?destUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fthomas.loc.gov%2Fcgi-bin%2Fbdquery%2Fz%3Fd109%3Ah.r.01268%3A&siteId=3&oId=2100-1028-5697111&ontId=1023&lop=nl.ex" target="_blank">military spending bill</a> soon that will, in part, create electronically readable, federally approved ID cards for Americans. </p><p>God Bless riders.</p>

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Not really a surprise though is it?&nbsp; Look who's in the white house.&nbsp; Has he done anything for the common man?&nbsp; Yet he gets people to vote against their own interest......twice!

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[Bulldogcakes]

<p>For the miniscule chance of being caught in a Terrorist attack, we
all have less privacy, less personal freedom. Hopefully the Supreme
Court shoots this one down. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>BTW-Not a Right-Left thing Mojo. Tony Blair has the same deal proposed for Great Britian. &nbsp;</p><p>Link w/FAQ's (http://www.privacy.org/pi/activities/idcard/idcard_faq.html)&nbsp;</p><p>Many developed countries, however, do not have such a card. Amongst
these are the United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Ireland,
the Nordic countries and Sweden. Those that do have such a card include
Germany, France, Belgium, Greece, Luxembourg, Portugal and Spain.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Although Law and Order is a key motivation for the establishment of ID
cards in numerous countries, their usefulness to police has been
marginal. In the UK. Home Secretary Michael Howard told the 1994 Tory
Party conference that he believed an ID card could provide an
invaluable tool in the fight against crime. This claim was toned down
somewhat during the gestation of the proposal. <br />
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<p>Yea, when I see this shit, the 1st thing that comes to my mind is 1984 too.</p><p>I am against this 100%.&nbsp; This is bullshit.&nbsp; </p>

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<p>What will this lead to?&nbsp; Giving my ID evertime I hit a state border?&nbsp; </p><p>This reminds me of when I was in Syria, going up to the Golan Heights.&nbsp; That's still a hot spot, and we had to pass though like 3 or 4 checkpoints where they scrutinized our passports and looking in our shit just to go up there and visit family.&nbsp; They held us up for a minute because I had my Sega Game Gear back then.&nbsp; I guess they thought it might have been some secret Jew transmitting device.&nbsp; Stupid asses.</p><p>Just say NO to national IDs.</p>

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[MrPink]

whats the difference between this and a drivers license?&nbsp; why can't we just keep our drivers licenses?

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<p><font size="1">why can't we just keep our drivers licenses? </font></p><p>In Russia driver's license keep you!</p><p><img height="276" src="http://www.kmaq.com/travel/yakov2.jpg" width="246" border="0" /></p>

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[HBox]

<p></p>
<p>The REAL ID Act requires driver's licenses to include a &quot;common
machine-readable technology.&quot; This will, of course, make identity theft
easier. Assume that this information will be collected by bars and
other businesses, and that it will be resold to companies like
ChoicePoint and Acxiom. It actually doesn't matter how well the states
and federal government protect the data on driver's licenses, as there
will be parallel commercial databases with the same information.</p>


<p>Even worse, the same specification for RFID chips embedded in
passports includes details about embedding RFID chips in driver's
licenses. I expect the federal government will require states to do
this, with all of the associated <a href="http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0410.html#3">security problems</a> (e.g., surreptitious access).</p>


<p>REAL ID requires that driver's licenses contain actual addresses,
and no post office boxes. There are no exceptions made for judges or
police -- even undercover police officers. This seems like a major
unnecessary security risk.</p>


<p>REAL ID also prohibits states from issuing driver's licenses to
illegal aliens. This makes no sense, and will only result in these
illegal aliens driving without licenses -- which isn't going to help
anyone's security. (This is an interesting insecurity, and is a direct
result of trying to take a document that is a specific permission to
drive an automobile, and turning it into a general identification
device.)</p>


<p>REAL ID is expensive. It's an unfunded mandate: the federal
government is forcing the states to spend their own money to comply
with the act. I've seen estimates that the cost to the states of
complying with REAL ID will be $120 million. That's $120 million that
can't be spent on actual security.</p>


<p>And the wackiest thing is that none of this is required. In October
2004, the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 was
signed into law. That law included stronger security measures for
driver's licenses, the security measures recommended by the 9/11
Commission Report. That's already done. It's already law.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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[Snoogans]

wait a minute....where the fuck did we get another 82 billion dollars?<br />


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[HBox]

<p>&nbsp;</p>
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wait a minute....where the fuck did we get another 82 billion dollars?
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><font face="Century Gothic" color="Navy"><font size="2">Republicans can spend whatever they want and
there will be no consequences, silly!</font></font></p>
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<font color=black>This message was edited by HBox on 5-10-05 @ 5:10 PM</font>

[Snoogans]

im telling you, im now convinced republicans just fuck everything up
at the beginning, and then begin fixing mistakes and then at the end
say see all the stuff we fixed, hoping you forget THEY fuckin caused it<br />


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[HBox]

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">
im telling you, im now convinced republicans just fuck everything up at
the beginning, and then begin fixing mistakes and then at the end say
see all the stuff we fixed, hoping you forget THEY fuckin caused it</font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Century gothic">That would require them fixing something. They ain't fixing shit.</font><br />
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[Snoogans]

not fixing, but like for example the gas issue. i know its the
government thats causing that shit, and then right when everyone starts
to panic, notice prices slowly drop till everyone is calm and then they
go back up. they are just fuckin with people to act like oh look, we
are helping the gas situation. shit like that<br />


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[FUNKMAN]

<p>for some reason this kind of stuff doesn't bug me. i look at it 'if you're obeying the law you got nothing to worry about'...</p><p>plus we're all in too big a rush anyway... let's slow it down a little bit</p>

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[sr71blackbird]

This'll just drive me deeper underground.&nbsp; I simply wont frequent places that require me to swipe a card through for access.&nbsp; The harder the attempt to contain me, the harder I look for the hole in the fence.

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[Bulldogcakes]

<font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>not fixing, but like for example the gas issue. i know its the
government thats causing that shit, and then right when everyone starts
to panic, notice prices slowly drop till everyone is calm and then they
go back up. they are just fuckin with people to act like oh look, we
are helping the gas situation. shit like that<br />http://images.ibsys.com/2004/0518/3317680.jpg

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[Heavy]

Our Govt loves violating and blatently taking away the right we all THINK we have.&nbsp; This is flat out illegal

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[fluffernutter]

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">for some reason this kind of stuff doesn't bug me. i look at it 'if you're obeying the law you got nothing to worry about'...</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I'm
on board with that too. I just don't see the big deal. I'm not doing
anything wrong and have nothing to hide. I mean granted big brother
will be watching a little bit more but how do I know they are not
already watching me now. I think the government has a little bit more
to worry about than what I am doing in my spare time. I just don't
really care. Call me apathetic or just pathetic but it may make things
easier in the long run. If in the long run this kind of thing winds up
keeping terrorists or threats to our national security out of the
country, maybe it is the thing to do.<br />
</p>

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[TheMojoPin]

<p>Then where does it end?</p><p>And what if they keep passing things that gives the government the ability to change what &quot;doing something wrong&quot; is pretty goddamn quicklY?</p>

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[PapaBear]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>for some reason this kind of stuff doesn't bug me. i look at it 'if you're obeying the law you got nothing to worry about'... </p><p>&nbsp;</p><em>Steinhardt said that officials would likely require states to embed a contactless RFID chip in licenses at some point, even if they didn't require this in the initial rollout of licenses. </em><p><em>RFID chips can hold more data than magnetic stripes, but they can also allow someone with an RFID reader to collect information stored on a license from a distance without the license holder's knowledge</em>. </p>You don't have to be breaking the law to not want people being able to track your every movement. <br />

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[monsterone]

there will always be ways around it.&nbsp; i'm suprised you dc folk
aren't up in arms about the survalience cameras able to give you
speeding tickets.&nbsp; there is lil difference btwn the rep n
dem.&nbsp; the size of govt is going up and we'll have to pay for it.<br />


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[monsterone]

<p>futhermore, i recommended thid cd to mojo, if you can find it, but
pressage outlined all tis is '94.&nbsp; the risd chip was being used on
pets in la then, so what's the big suprise.&nbsp; atleast we don't have
to pull a glowing orb out of our noses.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>our
forefathers never invisioned this so i believe it is
constitutuional.&nbsp; (i could be wrong.) but i gaurentee the&nbsp;
aclu will be on it in a minute (though i dispise them.)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>there
was something recently in a news article abt a town in mas where all
men in the area were swabbed for dna to catch a rapist.&nbsp; is there
really a need for a national dna data base???&nbsp;</p>

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[PapaBear]

<p>Let's not forget the problems that come from people other than the government. With these RF chips, anyone with the right equipment can access them. It's easier than computer hacking. Already, some wiz kids have come up with a device that can start cars that use keys with RF chips. The device is crude right now, but it won't take long to improve it.</p><p>If you're cheating on your wife, make sure you leave your National ID at home. You wouldn't want your wife's PI to track you down!!!</p>

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[HBox]

Are you drunk or something monsterone?<br />


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[monsterone]

not yet hbox but i did go to a bar w/ 1000 beers in house, w/ a 4 beer limit.&nbsp; but i'm not sure what you're disagreeing w/.<br />


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[PapaBear]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>not yet hbox but i did go to a bar w/ 1000 beers in house, w/ a 4 beer limit.&nbsp; but i'm not sure what you're disagreeing w/.<br /><br />&nbsp;<font color="#ff0000" size="1">violent thoughts &amp; prayers</font> <font color="#ff0000" size="6"><font size="1">Damn, you'd have to go to that bar 250 times to try all 1000 beers!<br /></font></font>

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[HBox]

I'm not disagreeing with
anything you said, but you sure pulled an Ed Gein-like massacre on
grammar and spelling.<br />


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[monsterone]

<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><font style="font-size: 9px;" face="Verdana">quote: </font>not yet hbox but i did go to a bar w/ 1000 beers in house, w/ a 4 beer limit. but i'm not sure what you're disagreeing w/.<br /><br /> <font color="#ff0000" size="1">violent thoughts &amp; prayers</font> <font color="#ff0000" size="6"><font size="1">Damn, you'd have to go to that bar 250 times to try all 1000 beers!<br /></font></font>

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[spoon]

<p>The US continues to base all it's policy on the lowest common denominator of our society.&nbsp; Do we truly need to have a full-time babysitter?&nbsp; Do we really want all our actions tracked, good or bad?&nbsp; Do we all need to feel like Gaylord Focker?&nbsp; At some point we need to ask ourselves if we really are free any longer?&nbsp; Hell, were also now taxed worse than when we left Britain for that and other reasons.&nbsp; Fuck, I'm all over the place.&nbsp; Have another one buddy.</p>

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Thank you George W.&nbsp;Bush. You beat your alcoholism enough to turn us&nbsp;ALL into alcoholics. It just goes to show... there's nothing more dangerous than a 2nd term President with the support of religious zealots, and war mongers.

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<p> </p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><br />
<p> is there
really a need for a national dna data base??? </p><font size="6" color="red"><font size="1" color="#000000">That
would be useful to law enforcement (This isn't). Anytime an
unidentified missing person was found, or any body part, they could be
instantly identified. Plus, they're not following you around, your DNA
doesn't change from place to place. </font></font><p> </p><p>You just dont like it because then you'd have to stop screwing your neighbor's 6 year old son. HOOOOOOOAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!</p><p>BTW
Those &quot;Red light camera&quot; things drive me nuts, And the cameras all over
the parks and city dont make me feel safer, It feels like Big
Brother. </p><font size="6" color="red">

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[PapaBear]

<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,67498,00.html">http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,67498,00.html</a></p><p><em>The Real ID Act appeared in take-it-or-leave-it spending legislation, which effectively forced lawmakers to sign on to the whole measure even if they disagreed with a portion of it. Several Republican and Democrat senators who cast favorable votes for the bill simultaneously railed against the provision authorizing the new driver's license rules.</em></p><p>This is the problem with riders. So many stupid laws get passed because they are tagged on to bills that need to be passed. The only riders that should be allowed are ones that relate directly to the original bill's intent. The thing is, there will never be changes in the Senate rules about this, because both parties use it to screw us.</p>

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[furie]

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">When did this come about?!?</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>this
has been brewing for about 15 years now. The design for the card was
made in 1996, but there was no real backing the project. It began to
gain steam after 9-11 obviously.&nbsp;</p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black" />


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[furie]

<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>whats the difference between this and a drivers license? why can't we just keep our drivers licenses?

<img border="0" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/Catholiccannon/gunsnammo.jpg" /> I like to dissect women. Did you know I'm utterly insane?<br />because
there's no standard with obtaining a DL nationwide. most illegal aliens
in this country obtain a valid NJ/VA/CA/or FL driver's license through
fraud, because those states in particular don't scrutinize apllicants/
I know NJ just made it tougher, i don't want to hear britching from NJ
residents, you've just been brought up to the rest of us. I mean Jesus,
it was only 5 years ago that a NJ DL didn't even have a picture on it!<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>With
that driver's license, they can obtain other vaild id. but it's all
based on the initial id obtained through fraud. And after all, a
driver's license dosn't denote anything other than that state allows
you to drive. I know it's become the defacto national id, but it's not.
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[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Yeah, this isn't as bad as the Bush haters made it out to be. Its
basically a National set of minimum standards for Drivers Licences and
other forms of ID. </p><p>And some States really are a joke. Ever see
a Florida Drivers lisence? You could forge the fuckin thing with a
camera and a sheet of laminate plastic.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Thats what I get for listening to the Far Left. Bullshitted again. &nbsp;</p>

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<font color=black>This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 5-13-05 @ 9:50 PM</font>

[INFOSTUD]

<p>This is WRONG!!!! The terrorist are using fear against us and they are winning. Our fear is their ally. Our fear is allowing the government to strip us of our freedom. STOP THIS IMMEDIATELY. Contact your representatives. If they voted for it; tell them you will not vote for them. Contact the American Civil Liberties Union.</p>

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[INFOSTUD]

<p>The Homeland Security Barcode could be next as pictured in this thread. The picture of the Nazi asking for papers frightens me. We gotta stop this!!!</p>

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[TheMojoPin]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>Yeah, this isn't as bad as the Bush haters made it out to be. Its basically a National set of minimum standards for Drivers Licences and other forms of ID. </p><p>And some States really are a joke. Ever see a Florida Drivers lisence? You could forge the fuckin thing with a camera and a sheet of laminate plastic.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Thats what I get for listening to the Far Left. Bullshitted again. &nbsp;</p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Kevin2700/bulldaogcopy.jpg" border="0" /> Does it bug you that your local pharmacy sells cigarettes and emphysema medicine? <font color="#000000">This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 5-13-05 @ 9:50 PM</font> <img height="400" src="http://www.birdhouse.org/blog/images/waffle_assn.jpg" width="400" border="0" /><br />

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[TheMojoPin]

<p>Yeah, blame this on &quot;Bush Haters.&quot;</p><p>That's where the real problem is.</p><p>This flies completely in the face of everything this country was supposedly founded on.</p><p>But please, go ahead and just chalk this one up to &quot;nutty liberals!&quot;</p>

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[HBox]

<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">But please, go ahead and just chalk this one up to &quot;nutty liberals!&quot;</font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Century Gothic">Please. It's obvious the crux of the problem is liberals with a crispy nut crunch.</font>[/font][/size]&nbsp;</p>
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[PapaBear]

This is more than just a standard for driver's licenses. The card will contain all kinds of personal information that can be used by either the government, or anyone else with the right equipment. The whole thing is just plain wrong.

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[Bulldogcakes]

<p> </p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p>Yeah, blame this on &quot;Bush Haters.&quot;</p><p>That's where the real problem is.</p><p>This flies completely in the face of everything this country was supposedly founded on.</p><p>But please, go ahead and just chalk this one up to &quot;nutty liberals!&quot;</p>

<br />
<br />Mojo, you're not that reflexive to have COMPLETELY misread my post, are you? <p> </p><p>This
issue was totally misrepresented, and I said so. This is why I left the
Left. Caught them in too many lies. Not that the Right is any better. I
try to find facts and make up my own mind. But I'm always wary of
partisans on either side, because their bias gives a slanted, overblown, unfair
view of the subject. </p><p>You know, this &quot;Chicken Little the sky is
falling&quot; shit gets old in a hurry. Its why some of us learned to tune
out the extremes on both sides of the aisle. </p>

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<font color=black>This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 5-14-05 @ 8:08 AM</font>

[TheMojoPin]

<p>How was it &quot;misrepresented?&quot;</p><p>I'm tired of this horseshit mentality in this country of just pissing all over the states, and the laziness that allows it to happen.&nbsp; If the states have shitty ID's, then the states need to fix them...the answer isn't to call in Big Brother and allow the federal government to create a national ID card with the same currently flawed technology that'll just create identity theft on a bigger and more serious scale.&nbsp; Make the ID system of the states universal to be more cohesive if necessary...but I'm sorry, the very IDEA of a &quot;national ID card&quot; flies in the face of just being fucking AMERICAN.&nbsp; And I'm sick of people just rolling over and&nbsp;taking this shit up the ass.</p><p>Besides, why can't they just work at making our Social Security cards more difficult to duplicate?&nbsp; We all already have to have those...but NOOOOOOO, let's throw ANOTHER spanner into the machine that doesn't work.&nbsp; It's been the calling card of the feds over the last 25 years...&quot;the government isn't working?&nbsp; MAKE IT BIGGER!!!&nbsp; Fix the broken part?&nbsp; FUCK NO!!!&quot;</p>

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Thank God the government finally&nbsp;got smart.....I'm for this all the way....after all, somebody has to watch you fuckers and make sure you don't get into trouble!!!!!!

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[furie]

<p> </p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>This
is more than just a standard for driver's licenses. The card will
contain all kinds of personal information that can be used by either
the government, or anyone else with the right equipment. The whole
thing is just plain wrong.
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hope you are aware that the government and several private
organizations already have all of you personal information. this
doesn't change anything.<p> </p><p> </p><p>i don't honestly see the problem here. we've already been forced to have a number assigned to us, or does anyone here <strong>NOT</strong> know their SSN.</p><p> </p><p>National
ID's are in use in Germany, UK, France, Belgium, Greece,
Luxembourg, Portugal, Spain, and roughly 100 other nations. I don't see
the Gestapo running down their citizens. </p><p> </p><p>If
the
government wanted to &quot;get&quot; you, a card's not going to help or hinder
them. People have to look at both the pro's and cons, not ranting like
lunatics with no tangible point. let's be rational and try to talk out
the merit and
drawbacks. otherwise this thread is worthless.</p><p> </p><p>There are huge, almost profound privacy issues, but there are also benifits when it comes to fraud and identiy theft. </p>


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<p>rev,13:16-17</p><p>He causes all,both small and great,rich and poor,free and slave,to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads. and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the nameof the beast,or the number of his name.</p>

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[furie]

carry it in your left hand, you'll be fine.<br />


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[TheMojoPin]

<p>I'm less worried about the government messing with me than someone out there who's just another citizen who's all about the identity theft.</p><p>Look, why do we NEED this?&nbsp; Why resort to this instead of just kicking the licenses and state ID's into gear?&nbsp; We already have to have to have those...and furie, like I said, we already have to have SSN# and the accompanying cards...why can't those just be modified?&nbsp; Why something seperate?&nbsp; My main issue is throwing MORE parts into a system that already has problems, instead of trying to fix it.</p><p>It's one thing to have to have an actual card...it's another when you have to swipe it left and right into computers.&nbsp; I'm already paranoid enough about my credit card...</p>

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[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p><br />
</p><p>I'm
tired of this horseshit mentality in this country of just pissing all
over the states, and the laziness that allows it to happen.</p><br />http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2003/jun/wallace/wallace_140.jpg
Alabama Gov George Wallace at the schoolhouse door<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The States have themselves to blame. &nbsp;</p>

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<p>The States have themselves to blame?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Ever read the Tenth Amendment? At least before the Yankees and the Radical Republicans used it for toilet paper...</p>

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<p>Remember when &quot;Republican&quot; meant &quot;less government&quot; No wonder Fez is the world's worst Republican. </p><p>To those who say all this informantion is already out there for others to steal from us... these IDs will eventually lead to&nbsp;all your information being IN YOUR POCKET and accessible to anyone, with the right device, from a distance. This is not &quot;far-fetched, science fiction, conspiracy theory&quot; lunacy. This is REAL! We won't have storm troopers asking, &quot;may I see your papers please&quot;... If they want your <em>papers,</em> they'll just collect the radio signals from the ID as they see fit.</p>

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[furie]

<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/biztravel/2005-05-30-registered-traveler-usat_x.htm"><br />
<p class="inside-copy">That vision would revolutionize post-9/11 air
travel by giving anyone willing to pay an $80 to $100 annual fee &mdash; and
open their lives to government scrutiny &mdash; the promise of line-free
security screening.</p>

<p class="inside-copy">Applicants who pass the government's criminal
and terrorist background check would have an iris image or fingerprint
stored in a computer. Enrollees would have their own line and be less
likely to face &quot;secondary screening&quot; of pat-downs and handheld metal
detectors.</p>

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<font color=black>This message was edited by furie on 5-31-05 @ 10:49 PM</font>

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<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>Remember when &quot;Republican&quot; meant &quot;less government&quot; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>That was back when they were against these IDs.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They were also against &quot;nation building&quot; and&nbsp;the liberal Wilsonian foreign policy they have now,</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They were also for balanced budgets,</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They were also for eliminating the Dept.s of Energy and Education, instead of expanding them,</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They were also for getting the federal government out of the local school systems,</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And let's not forget The Tee-Ball President in the 2000 debates being against having classified information being used in courts to try terrorist suspects.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Of course they wouldn't have sold out their &quot;core principles had Clinton not gotten them blow-jobs from Lewinski....</p><p><br />&nbsp;</p>

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