Flag Desecration Amendment Crisis [Archive]

furie

05-23-2005, 07:05 PM

quote:this "gateway" limitation of free speech FIRE!!! FIRE!!! Kill the President!!! oh right there already are some limitations that have not threated our right to speak. 



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HBox

05-23-2005, 07:19 PM

Kill the President!!!<img width="307" height="400" border="0" src="http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/the_life_of_david_gale/patrick_kilpatrick/galepre2.jpg" />"I'm here to "take custody" of Furie." 

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furie

05-23-2005, 07:21 PM

who is that? 

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furie

05-23-2005, 07:26 PM

<a href="http://www.oyez.org/oyez/resource/case/379/">Texas Vs Johnson</a> say for arguments sake, the bill passes, i wonder if the court would strike it down...   <img width="300" height="100" border="0" src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/furie1335/rfsigs/ghostrider2.jpg" />  

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HBox

05-23-2005, 07:27 PM

You'd have to had watched tonight's 24 for that to make any sense. 

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furie

05-23-2005, 07:30 PM

ah, i never got into 24. i missedmost of the first season, so i missed out. 

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PapaBear

05-24-2005, 01:19 AM

Bobo,  I'm looking forward to your flag burning event. (pending the defeat of this harmful legislation).  Though I feel flag burning is a useless form of protest, I believe laws against this form of protest, are more "anti-American" than anything.  I've never wanted to burn a flag, but I'll be there with you, if you live up to your flag burning record attempt.   To anyone who wants to say I'm wrong for joining Bobo, I say this...  What the hell else am I supposed to do, to get my voice heard, as a person who isn't allowed to vote (simply because I got caught with 2 grams of cocaine, 6 years ago)?  I think there was a reason that the FIRST amendment to the Constitution addressed the topic of FREE SPEECH!!!

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DJEvelEd

05-24-2005, 04:26 AM

What if you burnt a flag with only 10 stripes? Is it still considered a flag?What if you burnt a flag with 60 stars? HuH? Huh? It's a slippery slope dammit!!!!

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05-24-2005, 04:40 AM

I wholeheartedly agree that flag desecration is an asinine form of self expression. All the more reason the government shouldn't be wasting time, effort, & OUR money on such trivialities!     As far as the old war horse of a philosophical argument regarding someone yelling "FIRE" in a crowded movie theater goes... people could die from the resulting panic. I pity the fool who couldn't burn a flag w/out killing himself or others...<img title="mrt" height="410" alt="mrt" src="http://www.hategun.com/blog/images/mrt.jpg" width="302" border="0" />

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Knowledged_one

05-24-2005, 06:06 AM

Hey bobo why stop there why not go grab the flag from 9/11 make that your grand finale.  What do you have to gain by burning the flag anyway.Papabear here is the solution - dont get caught with coke and you could vote - you knew the risks and now you suffer the consequences and want to complain are you kidding me.  Don't trumpet the powers of the 1st amendment and then ignore the section where it says get convicted of a felony lose the right to vote.  The constitution does not only work when it favors you<img src="http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/06/hacksawsgtslaughter.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/aggie2323/celticssig.jpg" border="0" /> Kicking it old school on the board again

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badorties

05-24-2005, 06:28 AM

say for arguments sake, the bill passes, i wonder if the court would strike it down...a rational mind would hope ... this seems to be one of those non-issues that gets everyone in a tizzy, pollutes the airways and make for interesting copy -- nothing more than a overhyped, dogmatic distraction

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Keotok

05-24-2005, 07:20 AM

To Badorties: I agree, although I don't think it is as
complicated as being a dogmatic distraction. I simply think it is
the easy topic. How hard is it to say "well, if you are against
this amendment, then you are unamerican and unpatriotic." It is
also a lot more complicated to push real issues, such as health,
inflation, unemplyment, highway infrustructure(sp?), pollution,
defense, imigration, WAR...just to name a few.To
Knowledged_one: I don't believe anyone would want to burn the
9/11 flag. It is in itself a relic. However, if there is a
replica, than it is free reign. There is no significance for a
random flag from wal-mart. Stop reaching for extremes. If
burning flags isn't your cup of tea, than by no means burn one,
however, stop telling others what they can and cannot do in the name of
patriotism. That is the true nature of free speach, and what this
is all about. Also, I don't believe PapaBear was complaining
about being unable to vote as much as saying that protests, etc, are
his only way of expressing himself now. If he has served his
time, and considered rehabilitated, then I don't see why all of his
rights should be refused. I'm sorry if I
ruffled feathers. I don't typically speak up for fear of the
wrath of the board! However, this one, I am passionate
about. I also can't stand those who don't have a real arguement:person1: "I hate flag burning!"person2: "Why is that?"person1: "YOUR NOT AMERICAN. YOUR UNPATRIOTIC. YOU DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS." 

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Knowledged_one

05-24-2005, 07:27 AM

So what you are saying is we should pick and choose which flags we burn - does that not go against what you are saying is a freedom of speech/expression.Just let me know-9/11 flag off limits but replica flag no big deal.  What about a flag off of a soldiers casket are those ok or are we picking and choosing again.And to clarify i said nothing about being unpatriotic about burning a flag, however in my opinion which i have under the freedom of speech i am more then free to voice that opinion.  You are much like papabear you would prefer your freedoms only when they benefit you.  And with papabear yeah he paid his debt to society, but he will continue to serve his other punishment (lack of voting, not able to hold elected office ( i think this is correct)) for the rest of his life because he broke the rules.  I am not saying he should be denied a job or a place to live, merely don't complain because one thing doesn't work out when you break the rules.

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Keotok

05-24-2005, 07:51 AM

quote:So
what you are saying is we should pick and choose which flags we burn -
does that not go against what you are saying is a freedom of
speech/expression.Just let me know-9/11 flag off limits but
replica flag no big deal. What about a flag off of a soldiers casket
are those ok or are we picking and choosing again.----Again,
going to extremes.  No, I don't have the right to burn a flag off
a soldiers casket.  That is not MY flag.  If the family who
does have charge of that flag chooses to burn it, then that is their
choice... And to clarify
i said nothing about being unpatriotic about burning a flag, however in
my opinion which i have under the freedom of speech i am more then free
to voice that opinion. You are much like papabear you would prefer your
freedoms only when they benefit you. And with papabear yeah he paid his
debt to society, but he will continue to serve his other punishment
(lack of voting, not able to hold elected office ( i think this is
correct)) for the rest of his life because he broke the rules. I am not
saying he should be denied a job or a place to live, merely don't
complain because one thing doesn't work out when you break the rules.
--I didn't compain about anything in your previous paragraph.  I
don't understand much of what you are talking about here.  I never
denied you any right, nor did I complain when you chose to voice
them.  I did put in a statement about denying people the choice of
doing things in the name of patriotism, and should have put that in a
more generalized term rather than my paragraph directed at you. 
For that I am sorry.  And
again, I think you are missing my whole PapaBear point.  I don't
deny that he did something that meritted penalties.  Those
penalties including revoktion of certain rights.  However that
doesn't include other rights that he should still have that are
completely unrelated to his crime, punishment, or consequences of
either.  He still has the remaining rights, and that doesn't apply
under the "it only applies when you want it to apply," rule.  It
should apply always.  (Used apply way to many times in that last
sentance!)

furie

05-24-2005, 10:57 AM

Again, going to extremes.if you can win the argument involving the extremes of a subject, the medians fall into place. 

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06-14-2005, 05:18 AM

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TeaBag420

06-14-2005, 11:44 AM

quote:Hey
bobo why stop there why not go grab the flag from 9/11 make that your
grand finale. What do you have to gain by burning the flag anyway.Papabear
here is the solution - dont get caught with coke and you could vote -
you knew the risks and now you suffer the consequences and want to
complain are you kidding me. Don't trumpet the powers of the 1st
amendment and then ignore the section where it says get convicted of a
felony lose the right to vote. The constitution does not only work when
it favors you 
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KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION.  There is no constitutional
right to vote, there is no "section where it says get convicted of a
felony lose the right to vote" because that's a matter determined by
the states, and there are two states (West Virginia is one) where
felons can vote.When I go to the theater, I make a point of saying "fire" as I take my seat.  

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tbonesteak

06-14-2005, 12:11 PM

While it's uncontitutional to pass a law banning the flag's descecration, it's still illegal to operate an open flame in a public space and you can be arrested for such an offense.  If I was a cop, I might agree with you in principal but I would still throw your ass in jail and beat you into submission on the way to the station.  Remember, one person's rights to free speech and free expression cannot impede on another person's rights or beliefs.  Burn a flag in the privacy of your own home and hope that your house doesn't catch fire.<img src="http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=flag+burning/v=2/SID=e/TID=I999_73/l=IVS/SIG=12v4jhm7o/EXP=1118865886/*-http%3A//www.freedomforum.org/graphics/2000/12/illos/americanflag.burning.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=flag+burning/v=2/SID=e/TID=I999_73/l=IVS/SIG=128h5ct5m/EXP=1118865947/*-http%3A//www.jaradite.com/images/2001/flag_burning.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=flag+burning/v=2/SID=e/TID=I999_73/l=IVI/SIG=12ic7nr38/EXP=1118866236/*-http%3A//www.theodora.com/flags/burning_2/58/seoul_021113_ap.jpg" border="0" />

furie

06-14-2005, 05:33 PM

While it's uncontitutional to pass a law banning the flag's descecration<div> </div><div>based on what?</div>

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TeaBag420

06-14-2005, 10:39 PM

quote:

While
it's uncontitutional to pass a law banning the flag's descecration,
it's still illegal to operate an open flame in a public space and you
can be arrested for such an offense. If I was a cop, I might agree with
you in principal but I would still throw your ass in jail and beat you
into submission on the way to the station. Remember, one person's
rights to free speech and free expression cannot impede on another
person's rights or beliefs. Burn a flag in the privacy of your own home
and hope that your house doesn't catch fire.
 

 

 


Hmmm,
where to start? Are there any words that you actually know how to
spell? Do you know JACKSHIT about the U.S. Constitution? Thanks
for the tip about how "it's still illegal to operate an
open flame in a public space and you
can be arrested for such an offense" I'll be sure to stop by
Arlington Cemetary and bring that to the attention of the proper
authorities, as well as the Kennedy family. And I'm glad that
individual states' laws prohibit barbecue competitions.  God
forbid we get the Olympics in this country...
oh, wait a minute... 

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PapaBear

06-14-2005, 11:17 PM

I don't normally agree with what Teabag has to say, but his last couple of posts caused me to notice what Knowledged_one said in response to my post. Kudos to you, Teabag for pointing out that the constitution doesn't say felons can't vote. There are several reasons that make disenfranchisement of non-violent felons ridiculous. First of which is the original definition of a felony...<ol><li>One of several grave crimes, such as murder, rape, or burglary, punishable by a more stringent sentence than that given for a misdemeanor.</li></ol>Another reason would be, as Knowledged_one said, I was "caught" with coke. Does this mean, if you do coke, but you don't get caught, it makes you more capable of voting (or being President)?The fact is, the current use of felony charges has been expanded over time to fit the needs of politicians.

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Doogie

06-15-2005, 12:07 AM

YOU KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION.  There is no constitutional right to voteAHEM:<h2>Amendment XXVI</h2>Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are 18 years of age or older, to vote, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state on account of age. Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Check and mate Bobby Fisher.

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06-15-2005, 12:22 AM

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hweeble

06-15-2005, 12:55 AM

It's pretty amazing that people can see the flag as a sacred
symbol of our nation, and at the same time know almost nothing about our
constitution.  People have (as people often say of the flag) fought and
died for the constitution.  We should all
be a little more familiar with it.  The
fact that someone could actually believe that in the US
there is no right to vote is brain-melting, ape-shit insane.  Please, people, read the founding document of
your country. 
 
To reply to furie, I do believe that the bill Bobo is referring to would be for an
amendment to the constitution, making it essentially bulletproof against any
court in the US. 
That is, of course, why they are going for an amendment.  Any reasonable interpretation of the 1st
amendment would forbid any law against purely symbolic speech.

In the
end, though, this debate is meaningless. 
This bill has been around forever, and gets reintroduced over and over
again, and is consistently defeated. 
Censoring criticism of the government is so thoroughly anti-American
that it will never pass.  Maybe I’m being
naïve, but I feel that no matter how bad things get, I just can’t see America jailing its dissidents.

PapaBear

06-15-2005, 01:53 AM

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Ndugu

06-15-2005, 04:57 AM

the good ole days

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Death Metal Moe

06-15-2005, 05:24 AM

I love all the Constitutional Experts who suddenly appear on the board for topics like this.  You people don't know anymore about the Constitution than the rest of us, so give it up douchebags.My personal opinion?  Let the commies burn their flags.  Go ahead if it makes you feel like a freedom fighter.  If it makes you feel like you're standing up for something.  I am about personal freedoms, so although I think it's disgusting to burn our flag, you should have the right.  But in the future, how about you think of burning flags of countries that DON'T help other people around the world as much as us.  Countries that regularly kill their own citizens.  Countries that keep women opressed.  Countries that never think about human rights.Is America perfect?  Of course not.  But we're the best thing going today, and it just baffles me that you all don't see that.  So go ahead.  Burn away.  I know what I believe and I know what I think of people who burn our flag.

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Death Metal Moe

06-15-2005, 05:29 AM

And Papa Bear.  I like you and have no problem with you, but I can't believe you're trying to play the victim here with your cocaine bust.Another reason would be, as Knowledged_one said, I was "caught" with coke. Does this mean, if you do coke, but you don't get caught, it makes you more capable of voting (or being President)?That was pathetic.  You had an illegal substance on you, period.  I don't like the current drug laws either, but you have to exist in our reality, not play by your own rules and then complain when reality catches up to you.  You wanted to play with the big boys, you had to take some big boy consequences.And personally, when I see what you said, it makes me think "You know what, I see what happened to him.  I won't go near cocaine EVER."  Sometimes, the punishment of people does deter others from trying that same path.  I want to keep voting, so I won't mess with coke.

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wilee

06-15-2005, 06:05 AM

Amendment
I


 
Congress
shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting
the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the
press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
the Government for a redress of grievances. 

 
Amendment
II


 A
well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. So, tell me, do you believe in gun control? 

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tbonesteak

06-15-2005, 06:11 AM

quote: quote: While it's uncontitutional to pass a law banning the flag's descecration, it's still illegal to operate an open flame in a public space and you can be arrested for such an offense. If I was a cop, I might agree with you in principal but I would still throw your ass in jail and beat you into submission on the way to the station. Remember, one person's rights to free speech and free expression cannot impede on another person's rights or beliefs. Burn a flag in the privacy of your own home and hope that your house doesn't catch fire. Hmmm, where to start? Are there any words that you actually know how to spell? Do you know JACKSHIT about the U.S. Constitution? Thanks for the tip about how "it's still illegal to operate an open flame in a public space and you can be arrested for such an offense" I'll be sure to stop by Arlington Cemetary and bring that to the attention of the proper authorities, as well as the Kennedy family. And I'm glad that individual states' laws prohibit barbecue competitions.  God forbid we get the Olympics in this country... oh, wait a minute... All my friends love the Lowrider. Ass, cash, or grass. Nobody rides for free. Kay Parker fan since day one. This message was edited by TeaBag420 on 6-15-05 @ 2:43 AM U can critisice my spelin but pleece dont act like u no wut yur talkin abut.  The following passage is taken directly from the New York City Fire Code (NYC Administrative Code, Title 27, Chapter 4, Subchapter 26).§ 27-4249 Open fires. a. It shall be unlawful for any person to kindle, build, maintain or use a fire upon any land or wharf property within the jurisdiction of the city of New York, except as follows:     1. outdoor picnic and barbecue fires on residential property in equipment with a total grate area not exceeding ten square feet and designed to use charcoal, or equipped with gas burners;    2. outdoor noncommercial picnic and barbecue fires in equipment provided by and located in city parks where such fires are permitted by the appropriate city agencies;    3. official fires used for the training of fire brigades or similar purposes by persons or corporations requiring such training, but only with the approval of the fire commissioner and the commissioner of the department of environmental protection;    4. outdoor fires used in conjunction with tar kettles, coke salamanders, asphalt and snow melting equipment and open natural gas fired infrared heaters of capacity less than 150,000 BTU/hr;    5. fires used for special effects for the purpose of television, motion picture, theatrical and for other entertainment productions, but only with the approval of the commissioner and the commissioner of ports and terminals.    b. Any person who shall violate, or refuse, or neglect to comply with any provision of this section, shall upon conviction thereof, be punished by a fine of not less than twenty-five dollars nor more than one hundred dollars, or by imprisonment not exceeding thirty days, or by both, for the first offense, and by a fine of not less than seventy-five dollars nor more than five hundred dollars, or by imprisonment not exceeding thirty days, or by both, for

Billy Staples

06-15-2005, 07:56 AM

why is this is this forum?  it slow enough in here shouldn't it be put in politics and current events....just kinda makes sense, it has gone way past any show talk. but than what thread hasn't lately Staples

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TeaBag420

06-15-2005, 10:47 AM

quote: quote:YOU KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION. There is no constitutional right to vote AHEM:<h2>Amendment XXVI</h2>Section
1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are 18 years of age
or older, to vote, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States
or any state on account of age. Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Check and mate Bobby Fisher.

 
That was a really good
try, but the 26th merely limits the powers of the federal and state
governments.  While it mentions the word "right" it does not
bestow a right. If state governments so desired, they could set up a
system wherein the governor chose electors based on who had the biggest
tits, and it would be constitutional.  Mate that, Fish-effer. 

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Knowledged_one

06-15-2005, 10:56 AM

i wonder how much funding those states would then get federally if they set things up that way.  Probably none

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TeaBag420

06-15-2005, 10:56 AM

quote:I
love all the Constitutional Experts who suddenly appear on the board
for topics like this. You people don't know anymore about the
Constitution than the rest of us, so give it up douchebags.<a href="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/"> 
</a> Well, except actually, I do.  So would it be inappropriate to tell you to suck me, or should I simply call you a douchebag? 

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TeaBag420

06-15-2005, 11:02 AM

quote:Amendment
I


 
Congress
shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting
the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the
press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
the Government for a redress of grievances. 

 
Amendment
II


 A
well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. So, tell me, do you believe in gun control? 
 There's a funny answer and a serious answer.  The
funny answer has to do with safety and good aim.  The serious
answer is yes, just like I believe in racism.  How can I not
believe in something that obviously exists?  Do I think it's a
good idea? Just like racism, no.  I think convicted felons should
be able to own guns. 

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Death Metal Moe

06-15-2005, 11:18 AM

quote: quote: I love all the Constitutional Experts who suddenly appear on the board for topics like this. You people don't know anymore about the Constitution than the rest of us, so give it up douchebags.<a href="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/"> </a> Well, except actually, I do.  So would it be inappropriate to tell you to suck me, or should I simply call you a douchebag? Oh, my bad Professor.  Glad you had a few minutes to spare out of your busy schedule to drop you vast knowledge of the Constitution on us.  Its our privilege, I assure you. 

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Death Metal Moe

06-15-2005, 11:39 AM

I also really love when you make a general statement to ALL the posters, and one guy shoots back a response.  That's ususally the guy with some scam going, or scared he's gonna get totally fingered as a phony.

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PapaBear

06-15-2005, 12:29 PM

I repeat...felony:<ol><li>One of several grave crimes, such as murder, rape, or burglary, punishable by a more stringent sentence than that given for a misdemeanor</li></ol>I not playing the victem at all. I'm just saying there are way too many laws that are punishable as felonies. Crimes which are in no way "grave"...And this thread isn't about people who want to burn the flag. I've said since the beninning, it's a stupid and pointless form of protest. The point is that the government shouldn't be throwing around amendments at every issue that they think will get them votes.The flag burning issue and the disenfranchisement of felons are both about one thing. VOTES!

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Death Metal Moe

06-15-2005, 03:14 PM

quote: I repeat...felony:<ol><li>One of several grave crimes, such as murder, rape, or burglary, punishable by a more stringent sentence than that given for a misdemeanor</li></ol>I not playing the victem at all. I'm just saying there are way too many laws that are punishable as felonies. Crimes which are in no way "grave"...And this thread isn't about people who want to burn the flag. I've said since the beninning, it's a stupid and pointless form of protest. The point is that the government shouldn't be throwing around amendments at every issue that they think will get them votes.The flag burning issue and the disenfranchisement of felons are both about one thing. VOTES!<img src="http://www.geocities.com/pauleight/pb_sig.gif" border="0" />For my next Miracle, I'll be turning water into... FUNK!!!KARMA ISThanks Monsterone for the sig!OK then Papabear, let's use your logic that "no one got hurt by my crime" to discuss burglary.  You seem to be OK with burglars not getting to vote, but I mean all they did was take some material goods that can be replaced, right?  Ehh, let them vote too.  Why should we have people who flagrantly disobey our laws voting for the people who make them? 

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PapaBear

06-15-2005, 03:27 PM

I believe noone who commits a non-violent crime should be denied the vote. As long as they have served their sentence, probation, and paid all fines, the matter should be closed. I served 2 years of probation and it was a good thing. I haven't done drugs since.I'm not arguing this for my own benefit. In all likelihood, by the end of summer I'll be able to vote. My Application for the Restoration of Civil Rights is being processed in Governor Warner's office, as we speak. I'm speaking out for all the other non-violent felons. The process needs streemlining in VA, and even more in other states.

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FUNKMAN

06-15-2005, 03:27 PM

he who burns the flag smokes the pole

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FUNKMAN

06-15-2005, 03:57 PM

anyone who desecrates is a flaggot...

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Death Metal Moe

06-15-2005, 03:58 PM

I stood on line at the Motor Vehical office for an HOUR once!  That's IT!  I've had ENOUGH of our corrupt government.  I'm burning a flag.

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TeaBag420

06-15-2005, 05:52 PM

quote:quote: I repeat...felony:<ol><li>One
of several grave crimes, such as murder, rape, or burglary, punishable
by a more stringent sentence than that given for a misdemeanor</li></ol>I
not playing the victem at all. I'm just saying there are way too many
laws that are punishable as felonies. Crimes which are in no way
"grave"...And this thread isn't about people who want to burn
the flag. I've said since the beninning, it's a stupid and pointless
form of protest. The point is that the government shouldn't be throwing
around amendments at every issue that they think will get them votes.The flag burning issue and the disenfranchisement of felons are both about one thing. VOTES!For my next Miracle, I'll be turning water into... FUNK!!!KARMA ISThanks Monsterone for the sig!OK
then Papabear, let's use your logic that "no one got hurt by my crime"
to discuss burglary. You seem to be OK with burglars not getting to
vote, but I mean all they did was take some material goods that can be
replaced, right? Ehh, let them vote too. Why should we have people who flagrantly disobey our laws voting for the people who make them? 
<a href="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/"></a> You
ARE aware that burglary doesn't necessarily involve theft, nor is it
always a felony, I mean with your vast knowledge of the law and all,
aren't you?  Oh, you're not aware of that?  Okay, maybe you
still have a thing or two to learn. 

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DJEvelEd

06-15-2005, 07:32 PM

Can someone explain what a flag is? Can someone burn a 15 striped flag with impunity?If so, I'll sell fake flags to those assholes and make a quick buck!

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Doogie

06-16-2005, 12:48 AM

That was a really good try, but the 26th merely limits the powers of the federal and state governments.  While it mentions the word "right" it does not bestow a rightHmmmm I dont know what bizzarro world that you came from, but if it is in the constitution then it is a RIGHT whether it is voting or drinking or what have you. How does it limit the powers of the federal and state governments?? Your answer is just assinine. But then again we forgot that you are a professor at this subject cause you are on a message board and boast your chest very well and shout out 'douchebag' to people that disagree or try to point out something to you. 

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Knowledged_one

06-16-2005, 03:52 AM

Do you think the professor wears courdoroy coats with the suede patches on the elbow?

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Doogie

06-16-2005, 04:29 AM

Do you think the professor wears courdoroy coats with the suede patches on the elbow?Yes, everyday he goes to the local adult shop and sits at the glory hole. The suede is perfect to hide the jizz all over the jacket.

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wilee

06-16-2005, 06:28 AM

There's a funny answer and
a serious answer.  The funny answer has to do with safety and good
aim.  The serious answer is yes, just like I believe in racism.  How
can I not believe in something that obviously exists?  Do I think it's
a good idea? Just like racism, no.  I think convicted felons should be
able to own guns.They both sound like "funny" answers to me.Most
people screaming about how an amendment that would protect the flag
from desecration would be infringing on their "right of free speech"
are also the biggest proponents of gun control.  You can't say
that we can infringe on this amendment but not the other, that's being
a hypocrite. 


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TeaBag420

06-16-2005, 08:58 AM

quote: quote:That
was a really good try, but the 26th merely limits the powers of the
federal and state governments. While it mentions the word "right" it
does not bestow a right Hmmmm
I dont know what bizzarro world that you came from, but if it is in the
constitution then it is a RIGHT whether it is voting or drinking or
what have you. How does it limit the powers of the federal and state
governments?? Your answer is just assinine. But then again we
forgot that you are a professor at this subject cause you are on a
message board and boast your chest very well and shout out 'douchebag'
to people that disagree or try to point out something to you. 

 
 "Douchebag"?  I
should say not, Sir.  My epithet of choice is "ignorant catamite"
and I have in fact asked Mikeyboy for a ruling on whether that is
acceptable language for this board.  Pending the outcome, allow me
the pleasure of saying that you, Sir, are an ignorant catamite. 

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DJEvelEd

06-16-2005, 10:57 AM

I knew nobody would answer my question because pretty soon a little kid will draw a 51 star and 15 striped flag in crayon and it will be protected. After that there will be no more American Flag toilet paper for your "Old Glory" hole.

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badorties

06-28-2005, 05:11 PM

<a target="_self" href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628054flag1.html"><img height="153" src="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0628054flag1.jpg" width="259" border="0" /></a>JUNE 28--Meet Scott Baber and Brian Richard III. The two Floridians, both 18, will hereinafter be referred to as the Baby-faced Anarchists (BA). The duo is facing felony arson charges (among other raps) for a flag-burning spree early Sunday morning. According to sheriff's investigators, the BA drove around a Sarasota subdivision, red gasoline canister in hand, and set fire to several American flags flying outside homes. For his part, Baber, a cook at Tijuana Flats, said he targeted the flag because he "disagreed with Free Trade, how the American Government is being run and the war in Iraq." Richard, who is unemployed and goes by the nickname Lil' B, said he torched Old Glory "because of who stands behind the American flag," adding that he disagrees with the Iraq war and believes President Bush has brainwashed Americans. Facing many years in prison, perhaps the BA may want to consider fashioning a better defense of their antics.

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06-28-2005, 05:44 PM

Baby-faced Anarchists (BA) The real BA was all about respect.<img height="349" src="http://www.shaftagents.com/baracus2.jpg" width="255" border="0" /> 

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06-29-2005, 05:06 AM

<img src="http://idontreadyourblog.blogs.friendster.com/photos/yemen/100_3787.JPG" border="0" />D'oh! I bought these through a taxi window for $1 from some broke-ass kid selling them on the streets here. I think they're hystercal. It's honestly the only piece of anti-American periphenelia I've seen here in Yemen. From some news reports I could have expected to see the streets lined with stands hawking Bin Laden T-shirts, bumper stickers, Pez dispensers and aphorism books. But really there's sweet fuck all of that sort of thing. Even I'm surprised by that. Probably the government just isn't having any of that shit when they're collecting so much cash from us. Then again, I meet plenty of people here who hate the US but just can't help but love me, (even after I argue with them at the newspaper for hours about how full of shit their blind acceptance of these crazyass conspiracy theories are), and it seems to confuse the hell out of them. But, then, how can you be offended by "walk on the American flag" flip-flops? They're like offensive and adorable at the same time. And practical!Of course there is something rather subversive about these things - mainly that they say size 10 1/2 on them, but they're actually about a size 8! THOSE HATEFULL... EVIL... MONSTERS!

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