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angrymissy
06-01-2005, 06:38 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>He told reporters the issue centers on taxpayer money being used for research that results in destruction of life, even if it is an embryo. Scientific advances must be balanced with ethics, he said. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>In defiance of Bush, the Republican-controlled House passed legislation Tuesday that would lift 2001 restrictions barring federal funding for research on embryonic stem cells. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>Unbelievable.&nbsp; Can anyone really deny the fact that stemcell research could improve the quality of life for millions of people, if not SAVE lives?&nbsp; We are talking about embryos here...&nbsp; There are people getting IVF that produce 20 embryos and only use 1 and freeze the rest.&nbsp; Even the Republican controlled House is pushing in favor of stem cell research.</p><p><img src="http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/StemCellResearch05/images/stahler.gif" border="0" /></p><p><img src="http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/StemCellResearch05/images/huffaker.gif" border="0" /></p><p><br /><img height="100" src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/tiggy.gif" width="300" border="1" /><br />&quot;To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.&quot; [ Theodore Roosevelt ]</p>

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Furtherman
06-01-2005, 09:57 AM
<p>An absolute outrage.&nbsp; </p><p>The only good thing that can come out of this veto is that Bush's standing in the republican party will be hurt, because many republican leaders have the common sense to look at his stance on stem cells for what it really is: idioticy.</p><p>Although that won't matter because we do have him for the next 4 years, hopefully the public (especially those who voted for him) will wake up and see what he is: a hypocritic bible-thumpin' moron.</p>

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Knowledged_one
06-01-2005, 10:27 AM
Criticize Bush for this all you want but you want him to go against his own morals (and lets not get into a moral question about war and such) would make him look even more foolish to against what he believes in.&nbsp; And if the Republicans are for this there are ways of beating the veto by 2/3 vote in each house after the veto so it isn't like this is a dead issue now

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angrymissy
06-01-2005, 10:48 AM
<p><font size="1">Criticize Bush for this all you want but you want him to go against his own morals (and lets not get into a moral question about war and such) would make him look even more foolish to against what he believes in.&nbsp; </font></p><p>So it's ok for him to go against his morals (life is scared blah blah) when it comes to war, but not when it comes to stem cell research eh?</p>

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Furtherman
06-01-2005, 10:49 AM
<p>&quot;<font size="1">Criticize Bush for this all you want but you want him to go against his own morals (and lets not get into a moral question about war and such) would make him look even more foolish to against what he believes in.&quot;</font></p><p>There are mormons who feel having 12 wives is moral.&nbsp;&nbsp; If one was to divorce 11 and keep one - would they look foolish?</p><p>There are christian fundalmentalists who refuse medical treatment for their children because god will heal them.&nbsp; If they were to give their kid a chance at survival - would they look foolish?</p><p>Bush's &quot;morals&quot; are not moral at all - they are misguided.</p><p>What he is doing is slowing down scientific breakthoughs that may help people - including people you know, if not yourself, in the future.</p>

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spoon
06-01-2005, 04:11 PM
Bush also seems to have forgotten the poor in his morals platform.&nbsp; They're not &quot;religious&quot;, I'm sorry.&nbsp; These right wingers, 90% of the time, use religion to get what they want.&nbsp; Sort of what they did with 9/11 and the war.&nbsp; The point brought up on marriage is very funny due to the fact that most of these bible thumpers also had a ton of divorces and usually the one that are so anti-gay end up being just that.&nbsp;

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A.J.
06-02-2005, 12:50 AM
<p>Let's compromise:&nbsp; we use&nbsp;the stem cells from convicted prisoners like Scott Peterson.</p><p>We free up room in the prisons, punish the worst offenders, and yet allow them a shot at some redemption for making a contribution to those who are suffering.</p><p>It's win-win!</p>

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Tall_James
06-02-2005, 04:39 AM
<p>Let's compromise:&nbsp; we use&nbsp;the stem cells from convicted prisoners like Scott Peterson.</p><p>We free up room in the prisons, punish the worst offenders, and yet allow them a shot at some redemption for making a contribution to those who are suffering.</p><p>It's win-win</p><p><img height="500" src="http://www.punchstock.com/image/itstock/6668015/large/itf015054.jpg" width="331" border="0" /></p>

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06-02-2005, 05:59 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>Let's compromise:&nbsp; we use&nbsp;the stem cells from convicted prisoners like Scott Peterson.</p><p>We free up room in the prisons, punish the worst offenders, and yet allow them a shot at some redemption for making a contribution to those who are suffering.</p><p>It's win-win!</p><img src="http://img40.photobucket.com/albums/v124/Canofsoup15/Sigs/AJinDC-Sig.jpg" border="0" /> A Skidmark/canofsoup15 production.<font color="#ff0000"><strong>Red Sox Nation</strong></font><p><br /><img height="400" src="http://www.postersnthings.com/posters/body_parts.jpg" width="276" border="0" /></p><p><font size="3">&quot;Just listen to what your arm's saying to you, man.&quot;</font></p>

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