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fezident

06-27-2005, 06:11 PM

This movie kicked ass.  Some serious shit goes down. It was SUPPOSED to be a earth-gets-attacked-by-aliens movie and that's EXACTLY what it is.  The death toll is in the billions. There is no super-fast editing and there a few good scenes where there is NO music .  Very effective.

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HBox

06-27-2005, 06:12 PM

Please tell me the ending. 

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Reephdweller

06-27-2005, 08:29 PM

Tom Cruise is a faggot with a hot swamp lipped beard at his side.

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Doctor Manhattan

06-28-2005, 05:31 AM

quote: Tom Cruise is a faggot with a hot swamp lipped beard at his side. That's his real life, but his characters in the movies likes women (At least his character in Magnolia seemed to) <img height="200" src="http://www.leenite.org/jonisland/graphics/mastbaud.jpg" width="220" border="0" />Acting!What happened to that guy who posted Movie Reviews here? The one who loved "White Chicks"<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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newport king

06-29-2005, 06:20 PM

just saw it, sucked ass!!!!! saw my hometown get blown up, that was cool, everything after that was awful. scale of 1-10 i'd give it a 3. And thats only for the special effects. He's apparently a longshoreman and yet he's driving around in a 70,000 dollar 67 G.T. 500. But whatever i'll suspend reality for that, but (white text) when his kid walked out of his house at the end????? i mean cmon gimme a fucking break. AND they didn't explain what made them lose their shields. was it after he knocked that one ship out?? if anyone is reading this that wants the cliffs notes of the movie here it is, aliens show up, blow shit up...germs. roll credits.

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fezident

06-29-2005, 06:26 PM

Are you serious??The f'cking imaginary CAR he drives doesn't match his imaginary salary at his imaginary job in a SciFi movie...SO WHAT?  I can't believe you found that the least bit distracting. It had less-than-nothing to do with the plot of the movie.Lemme guess...you're really in to cars.

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newport king

06-29-2005, 06:30 PM

whatever. i wanted to be into it. it was just a bad movie.

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newport king

06-29-2005, 06:31 PM

adn tell me if i missed anything in my cliffs notes summary of the movie.

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Tall_James

06-29-2005, 06:32 PM

I thought the anal probe scenes were a little excessive.  I heard Cruise had those in his contract.

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ChickenHawk

06-30-2005, 12:19 AM

I saw this movie today... FUCKING AMAZING.

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Doctor Manhattan

06-30-2005, 04:33 AM

quote: But whatever i'll suspend reality for that, but (white text) when his kid walked out of his house at the end????? i mean cmon gimme a fucking break. AND they didn't explain what made them lose their shields. was it after he knocked that one ship out?? if anyone is reading this that wants the cliffs notes of the movie here it is, aliens show up, blow shit up...germs. roll credits. You answered your own question:And Morgan Freeman (Narrator) explained it as well:The Aliens couldn't handle our earth germs, you mention the germs yourself. For a million year old plan, it's pretty stupid to not consider the germs, but I guess they don't have any on Mars. But they did come here to plant those Machines, didn't they? They would have been germs 1,000,000 years ago(End white text spoiler) <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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Doctor Manhattan

06-30-2005, 04:37 AM

quote: He's apparently a longshoreman and yet he's driving around in a 70,000 dollar 67 G.T. 500  There was a second 60's Mustang-Type car in his garage, I'm guessing that would have recieved the engine he's working on before the film started (The "302" he mentioned would be out of the house next week)If he's a guy who's into Mustangs and knows how cars work, couldn't he have fixed up that thing himself? Does it cost $70,000 to buy one in bad shape and fix it up yourself? They didn't say it was an original 67 G.T. 500 with all original equipment, it could have been made to just look like it.I'm sure all those 427 Shelby Cobra's I see driving around aren't real.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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Tazz

06-30-2005, 04:43 AM

So, it appears that it ends the same way as the original?

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newport king

06-30-2005, 09:13 AM

ok fine, people are bitching about my mustang comment. just forget it. if you liked the movie, good for you. i thought it blew. don't get me wrong the effects were cool but thats really it. but people calling it "fucking amazing" i just don't see it. people were cheering after the movie was over, my wife and her friend tought it sucked too.

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stormshadow

06-30-2005, 09:35 AM

Actually, those longshoreman do pretty well for themselves, especially the guys who can operate those container cranes.  Overall not a bad movie, kept me enterained throughout.

Doctor Manhattan

06-30-2005, 09:36 AM

quote: i thought it blew. don't get me wrong the effects were cool but thats really it. but people calling it "fucking amazing" i just don't see it. people were cheering after the movie was over, my wife and her friend tought it sucked too. Well, did you, your wife and the 3rd wheel like the original H G Wells book? 

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fezident

06-30-2005, 10:43 AM

For the people who hate this movie, I suspect this is one of those times that people are faulting a movie for being exactly what it's SUPPOSED to be.  This movie is SUPPOSED to be about a ruthless alien attack that nearly wipes out the human race...but doesnt.  That's EXACTLY what it is.  They come, they kick ass, people try to escape, they can't..so they run away, but the aliens keep on coming.  Bam. That's it. That's what the movie promises and that's what it delivers.In fact, I think this movie is waaay better than just about any summer blockbuster I can think of because it's UNLIKE every other disaster movie. None of the usual plot devices. They never assemble a team of experts in various military and scientific fields to "think outside the box, damn it!"There is no secret government weaponThere is no love story, There is (almost) no humor, There is no huge battle scene (it all happens off camera)We never learn anything that Tom Cruise doesn't learn. We know what he knows..and that's it.All we see is people getting killed by aliens...or by each other.  I honestly don't understand how that is NOT exciting enough for some people.  This ain't Shawshank Redemption folks. Nor is it trying to be,If this movie doesn't do it for ya....stay home next time. You're numb.

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HBox

06-30-2005, 10:48 AM

quote:They never assemble a team of experts in various military and scientific fields to "think outside the box, damn it!"
There is no secret government weapon
There is no love story, 
There is (almost) no humor, 
There is no huge battle scene (it all happens off camera)
We never learn anything that Tom Cruise doesn't learn. We know what he knows..and that's it. 
You just described Signs.And
there are times when staying true to the book works. That is not the
case here. IT was a brilliant ending for a book in the 1800s, it worked
in the older movie, now with everything we know it's unbelievable.I
haven't seen this yet, but from what I'm hearing its just Signs closer
to the action. We follow a family just trying to survive an apocalypse.
Both have the aliens nearly destroy the world. Both are incredibly
intense in the middle. Both have ridiculous endings. Both have the
aliens being destroyed by something so simple and elemental that just
the fact that the they didn't think of that destorys the whole premise
that they are highly advanced civlizations capable of planetary
destruction.I
did like Signs though. A lot. So I'll probably give this a try. But, to
me anyway, that Signs was on the fringes of the action worked in its
favor. 


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fezident

06-30-2005, 10:57 AM

Maybe on one or two levels.  But the VIBE of Signs and WOTW couldn't be more different.  Signs is so quiet and "spooky".  WOTW is bombastic.  In Signs...aliens arrive.  In WOTW...they f'cking attack.  In Signs, the violence is implied. In WOTW...it's depicted.etc etc etc. edit: should it be mentioned that, technically, Signs is a ripoff of WOTW.  Chronologically.<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/tucker71/fezident.jpg" border="0" /> "WHATEVER YOU DO....DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS!!"

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Doctor Manhattan

06-30-2005, 10:57 AM

quote: You just described Signs.  He should have added:There is no stupid director cameoThere is no "renewing the preacher's faith" plot

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Snoogans

06-30-2005, 10:59 AM

This movie is SUPPOSED to
be about a ruthless alien attack that nearly wipes out the human
race...but doesnt.  That's EXACTLY what it is.  They come, they kick
ass, people try to escape, they can't..so they run away, but the aliens
keep on coming.  Bam. That's it. That's what the movie promises and
that's what it delivers. does
randy quaid stop them by flyin a fighter jet into their laser and
somehow not burning up right away like the FUCKIN WHITE HOUSE DID 

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Doctor Manhattan

06-30-2005, 11:04 AM

quote: does randy quaid stop them by flyin a fighter jet into their laser and somehow not burning up right away like the FUCKIN WHITE HOUSE DID   Use a spoiler warning before revealing the ending... <img height="95" src="http://s1.imagesubmit.com/tom04.gif" width="90" border="0" />

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HBox

06-30-2005, 11:16 AM

You should spoil the ending. And I'm not talking
about the ending everyone already knows. I'm talking about the sappy,
incredulous OTHER part of the ending. I'm glad I heard about that
already, at least I'll be prepared, maybe I'll be able to hold in my
vomit. 

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HBox

06-30-2005, 11:25 AM

Maybe on one or two levels.  But the VIBE of Signs and WOTW couldn't be more different.  
Signs is so quiet and "spooky".  WOTW is bombastic.  
In Signs...aliens arrive.  In WOTW...they f'cking attack.  
In Signs, the violence is implied. In WOTW...it's depicted.
etc etc etc.
 
edit: should it be mentioned that, technically, Signs is a ripoff of WOTW.  Chronologically.
They're different, but they are depicting the
same thing from two different perspectives. Depicting it from the
outskirts like Signs did was fairly unique and innovative. I really did
like Signs a lot, if the ending wasn't so incomprehensible it mgiht
have made my top 10 of all time.
I really did appreciate the slow, methodical way Signs built up the
tension and dread. It made it all the more scary and thrilling when the
shit went down. WOTW is just immediate non-stop action from what I
heard, which could make it a hell of a summer event movie and an
adrenaline rush, but I doubt I'll experience the same fear that I did
in Signs.
And every alien invasion movie is a rip-off of War of the Worlds.
But that doesn't mean this remake can retroactively claim that all
those movies are ripping it off. Not that Signs didn't rip shit off,
though. That Blair Witch Project scene just hits you straight in the
forehead. 


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Doctor Manhattan

06-30-2005, 11:32 AM

quote: You should spoil the ending. And I'm not talking about the ending everyone already knows. I'm talking about the sappy, incredulous OTHER part of the ending. I'm glad I heard about that already, at least I'll be prepared, maybe I'll be able to hold in my vomit. Which ending are you talking about? The one that was written in 1898? I thought it was the same as the 2005 film, they even used some of the text as the Narrator's Dialouge at the end. 

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HBox

06-30-2005, 11:46 AM

No, I'm referring to two things that happened in
the ending. The one in the book is thereal "ending". What I was talking about
was something else that happened at the end: when Cruise's son turns out to be alive out of nowhere.[color=navy]Maybe
I just heard it wrong, but that's what I've been hearing that people
hate about the ending. It's out of place, overly sappy and makes no
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Reephdweller

06-30-2005, 02:57 PM

I've had absolutely no interest in seeing that piece of crap. I love reading all the reviews that are trashing it With Tom Cruise, tragically miscast in a role that appears to call for an actor. <a href="http://www.orlandoweekly.com/film/review.asp?rid=7373" target="_blank">Review</a>

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cougarjake13

06-30-2005, 03:22 PM

there was a few problems i found with the movie. spolier alert in white textOne was mentioned already in what made their shields go down, they never tell you. Maybe they were all connected like a computer network and when tom leaves the grenades inside it shuts them all down.Second was and only new yorkers would realize it but in the book/original movie it takes place in New Jersey and it looks like they set it in jersey in this version as well. what bothers me is that if it is set in jersey how did he get to the west shore expressway (which is on Staten Island) without crossing a bridge? the one outside his house looks like the bayonne bridge, and that gets destroyed.also the convenience of all the cars on the roads were perfectly stopped in a way that he could still drive around them, and also when he comes out of the house and the plane is on the ground and everything around is destroyed yet the minivan is not damaged and all the debris is once again conveniently placed in such a way that he can still drive around them. now i know it is a movie and you have to suspend reality but its hard to believe that these 2 conveniences would really happen in a real life attack.the one good thing they did do was not make the characters automatically assume it was aliens. In a post 9-11 world their first thought of terrorists attacking them, would make more sense then out of nowhere assuming it was aliens.

TheGameHHH

06-30-2005, 09:03 PM

I just got home from seeing this movie......visually I was impressed,
plot-wise I was unimpressed. Everything you guys mention in the white
texts bothered me, the story just wasn't told well. I think it works
better as a 19th century book than a 21st century movie. 

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newport king

07-01-2005, 11:08 AM

i'm happy there are more haters out there than me. so i'm not alone on this one. fezident, i don;t know if you're really katie holmes or what but whatever you try to explain to me isn;t gonna work. to me, this movie wasn't good at all. everytime i think about it i just get more pissed about how bad it was. i agree with HHH saying visually it was impressive. i just thought everything around it wasn't done well. such as... what was the point of the red vines...i know what they were but why were they there.when the aliens showed up it blew every piece of machinery/cars/all sorts of electronics. yet somehow that guy is filming the whole thing on a camcorder.as for cougarjake, they really didn't say where they were exactly. his house is on first and kennedy boulevard in bayonne, yet when he walked up the block to look for his car he was in newark. ny/nj people will notice this but nobody outside this area will know the difference.<img src="http://hometown.aol.com/bonedaddy5/images/newportking.jpg" border="0" />

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fezident

07-01-2005, 03:07 PM

Oh well.  To each his own, I suppose.I literally JUST got back from seeing it a second time and BOTH times, there was applause after it ended. And yet...word-of-mouth appears to be bad so, I dunno what the hell is going on.As for the nitpicky stuff.  EVERY movie has that stuff. NJ..NY..Bayonne...Newark...whatever.  Nobody ever really notices that kinda thing unless you're from that particular town.  And even THEN, it doesn't really matter.  They scout for cool locations...not continuity.The camcorder thing struck me as odd both times I saw it.  I think they established that battery operated devices could still function as there were quite a few flashlights later in the movie. (and the minivan was instantly drivable once they fixed the solanoids or whatever the hell it was) My love for this movie really stems from all the action & danger.  And that it doesn't have all the usual plot devices of a normal movie. We NEVER leave Tom Cruises P.O.V.   I found that pretty interesting. Any way you slice it...it's better than ARMAGGEDDON, THE CORE, TWISTER, etc etc. No??<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/tucker71/fezident.jpg" border="0" /> "WHATEVER YOU DO....DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS!!"

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newport king

07-01-2005, 06:14 PM

TWISTERDude 2 words.....FLYING COW!!!!I like most disaster movies. I even liked day after tomorrow (although everything after the actual storm sweeping in was kind of boring). I dunno, i like disaster flciks and love alien movies but this just didn't work for me. You should check out the miniseries Taken. If you haven't seen it download.....i mean rent it or buy it.<a href="http://www.scifi.com/taken/dvd/taken-miniseries.html">http://www.scifi.com/taken/dvd/taken-miniseries.html</a>

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furie

07-02-2005, 08:46 PM

Seriously, Rob should have died. But a good effort over all. B+ 

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hammersavage

07-02-2005, 09:41 PM

Just saw WOTW and I liked it. The ending wasn't great but visually the movie was very impressive. I
appreciate that there wasn't a forced love story or corny comedy. it
was kept simple: aliens invaded, kicked our ass, then got beat. Simple.
And I also liked that Speilberg revealed the tripods early on and the
aliens halfway through, he didn't drag it on the whole flick just for a
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yarpwizard

07-04-2005, 02:28 AM

I have one major complaint, only one small segment showing the aliens. i would have loved to more of the actual aliens. Visually, the movie has great special effects, but the ending is weak. I'd give it a solid B.

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Furtherman

07-05-2005, 06:58 AM

The shields went down because the aliens were drinking the humans - and getting sick.  They were dying.I liked the movie.  I'd probably give it a B+ and the f/x were worth the price of admission.The one thing that bothered me:  Haven't we seen those aliens before?  White text: They looked like the ones from Independence Day

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tbonesteak

07-05-2005, 10:08 AM

I loved the movie!  Spielberg did a great job directing and it had me on the edge of my seat the entire time.  It really reminded me of some of his older blockbusters like Jaws and Jurassic Park.  I don't think it will hold up and I have a feeling that I wouldn't enjoy it as much the second time around but it was a great movie and well worth the $10.75 I paid for admission.The one thing that really shocked me was that the scene at the end that was supposed to take place on a quiet residential street in Boston was actually filmed on my block in Brooklyn, NY.  They filmed it so long ago that I forgot it was in the movie.

Meve

07-17-2005, 05:29 PM

Finally saw it and thought it was pretty good. it was a film filled
with tense moments and scary shit. I feel so wierd watching so many
people get wiped out in the blink of an eye. I know its only a movie
but it touched me and I felt bad for the human race. 
Everyone who hated it will probably like it better when it
becomes a Documentary soon. I'll be hiding deep in the Artic Tundra if
anyone needs me. 

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fezident

07-17-2005, 05:45 PM

There was a scene in the movie that I didn't quite understand the first two times I saw it.  I was watching the DVD today and it STILL didn't make sense to me.At the end of the movie...Tom is trying to convey SOMETHING to a nearby soldier.  I don't know what he's saying but, he's screaming and pointing at the birds in the sky.Is it possible that he noticed that birds were able to land directly on the machines (which would indicate that the shields were down)?  Was he yelling at the soldier to fire away? The dialog is REALLY buried in the mix at that point in the film.  Anyone know what the hell is going on there?

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furie

07-17-2005, 06:09 PM

Is it possible that he
noticed that birds were able to land directly on the machines (which
would indicate that the shields were down)? yes 

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Meve

07-17-2005, 07:03 PM

oh i thought of soumething i really didn't get... What were the red veins growing all over suppose to be? 

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furie

07-17-2005, 09:06 PM

i think they were trying to terraform the earth to their needs. which is why it was effected just like the aliens. 

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newport king

07-18-2005, 06:14 AM

jesus am i really the only person that hated this movie?

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Doctor Manhattan

07-18-2005, 06:22 AM

I always thought Tom was pointing at the birds, who seemed to be circling around the dying aliens, as birds do with other dying animals.A lot of people hated the movie. I guess it didn't have enough Will Smith/Jeff Goldblum for them...

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spunkee

07-18-2005, 06:26 AM

quote: There was a scene in the movie that I didn't quite understand the first two times I saw it.  I was watching the DVD today and it STILL didn't make sense to me. ummmm how many times you gonna see this?  need to expand your horizons a lil and get over the tom cruise fetish or atleast move onto his other brilliant works of art like All the Right Moves or The Outsiders.

mikeflashmob

07-20-2005, 12:40 PM

Speaking of war of the worlds. Has anyone check-out this new site, that's floating around the internet. www.nookees.com It's wild.

fezident

07-20-2005, 03:10 PM

quote: quote: There was a scene in the movie that I didn't quite understand the first two times I saw it.  I was watching the DVD today and it STILL didn't make sense to me. ummmm how many times you gonna see this?  need to expand your horizons a lil and get over the tom cruise fetish or atleast move onto his other brilliant works of art like All the Right Moves or The Outsiders. Wouldn't it be funny if we were recording the DVD commentary at the studio where I work but, you just thought that I was in love with Tom Cruise. My horizons are fine, thanks. PS: Sorry if my proper use of capital letters confused you. 

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