View Full Version : A suggestion to the Board Vets
JPMNICK
08-02-2005, 06:46 PM
<p>I know how funny all of you are, myself included. But in the very near future this board will have an influx of new people from all over the country, many who have never heard of R&F, and some who have only heard of them through O&A. </p><p> </p><p>Now when they come here and ask things about the show that to many who post here on a daily basis find annoying or mundane, they may really just want a simple answer. Not a picture of a lock, or a cave, or a random cartoon picture, or a smart ass remark. </p><p>Sure all of the other board vets. chuckle and then maybe rub one out for you in the staff room. But in general, I think maybe as a board we should have a concerted effort to not just shit on simple questions or issues from someone just because they are new. Then in a few months, once R&F are off the ground, we can go back to posting the gay pride parade pictures. </p><p> </p><p>not a monologue, just a suggestion</p>
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Death Metal Moe
08-02-2005, 06:49 PM
So I should take a leave of abscence then?
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torker
08-02-2005, 06:49 PM
<p>Good idea. Spread love, not hate.</p><p><img height="362" src="http://www.guilderlandplayers.com/data/gay/images/ee91/002.jpg" width="513" border="0" /></p>
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Death Metal Moe
08-02-2005, 06:49 PM
<p>No wait, I already milked that one dry last year.</p><p>Huddela Huddela.</p>
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Tall_James
08-02-2005, 06:51 PM
<p>or a cave</p><p>That one was directed at me. </p><p>Are you through pontificating? Who appointed you the conscience of RF.net?</p>
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Hottub
08-02-2005, 06:52 PM
<p>I was thinking the same thing this morning. Give the new guys a shot, try to answer their questions courtiously, refer them to the FAQ or sticky threads...</p><p>And let's welome all!!</p><p> </p><p>Unless they are douchebags!!<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/devil2.gif" border="0" /></p>
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08-02-2005, 06:56 PM
JPMNICK for MOD. Who can make that happen?
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Death Metal Moe
08-02-2005, 06:56 PM
<p>OK, all tongue kissing guys aside, new people will be treated with the same courtesy they pay us.</p><p>Newbies that ask honestly uninformed questions will be treated with some respect and given the answers. </p><p>However, Newbies that come in here like a ball of fire, ready to attack will be stomped into the fucking ground, disembowled and pissed upon.</p>
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Death Metal Moe
08-02-2005, 06:57 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>JPMNICK for MOD. Who can make that happen? <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/artemisentreri/rfsig4.gif" border="0" /><br /><strong>Dimebag Darryl Abbott<br />1966 - 2004</strong><br />Be <a href="http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=5937599&Mytoken=20050118170538">MySpace</a> friend.<font color="#ffffff"><font color="#000000">Wait, if you don't know....HEY! Who's drivin' this thing?!?!</font><br /></font>
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Death Metal Moe
08-02-2005, 06:58 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p> </p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>or a cave <p> </p><p>That one was directed at me. </p><p>Are you through pontificating? Who appointed you the conscience of RF.net?</p><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=tall_james" border="0" /><br /><a href="http://cheeseeatingbird.blogspot.com/" target="blank">The Cheese-Eating Bird</a> I posted a spider hole! Can I just imagine it was directed at me? Please?<br />
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JPMNICK
08-02-2005, 06:59 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>OK, all tongue kissing guys aside, new people will be treated with the same courtesy they pay us.</p><p>Newbies that ask honestly uninformed questions will be treated with some respect and given the answers. </p><p>However, Newbies that come in here like a ball of fire, ready to attack will be stomped into the fucking ground, disembowled and pissed upon.</p><br />well put
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JPMNICK
08-02-2005, 06:59 PM
the cave comment was not meant at any one person, you are all special
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Reephdweller
08-02-2005, 07:01 PM
<p>Fuck them, everyone comes under fire of my wrath.</p>
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Death Metal Moe
08-02-2005, 07:06 PM
<p>I mean we all know how it was to be brand new. We're gonna get a lot of "Is Fez REALLY gay?" posts, and shit like "What is a Neck Slap?" from them. </p><p>Another problem is that COWARDS on this board like to poke as people with fake board names, and banned people try to come right back as new people. So that puts real Newbies at a disadvantage, but if it means getting new blood in here who know what's up, I'm more than willing to be nice to them for awhile.</p><p><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=njdmmoe" border="0" /> </p><p><a href="http://www.unhallowed.com/">www.unhallowed.com</a> <a href="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/">One Big SeXXXy Blog</a></p>
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JPMNICK
08-02-2005, 07:06 PM
i will just link them all to <a href="http://www.osirusonline.com/">http://www.osirusonline.com/</a>
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Reephdweller
08-02-2005, 07:14 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>i will just link them all to <a href="http://www.osirusonline.com/">http://www.osirusonline.com/</a> <br />I was just gonna suggest that. But then I thought it would be <a href="http://unhallowed.com/" target="_blank">unhallowed</a> of me or at the very least <a href="http://www.whackclothing.com/" target="_blank">whack</a>. Though alas I couldn't bring myself to do <a href="http://somesuch.org/" target="_blank">somesuch</a> a thing.
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mikeyboy
08-02-2005, 07:15 PM
Ah. This thread made me end the fun in that other thread and get serious. Fun is more fun than serious. Seriously. I need a drink.
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Death Metal Moe
08-02-2005, 07:19 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>i will just link them all to <a href="http://www.osirusonline.com/">http://www.osirusonline.com/</a> <p><br />I was just gonna suggest that. But then I thought it would be <a href="http://unhallowed.com/" target="_blank">unhallowed</a> of me or at the very least <a href="http://www.whackclothing.com/" target="_blank">whack</a>. Though alas I couldn't bring myself to do <a href="http://somesuch.org/" target="_blank">somesuch</a> a thing. </p><p> </p><img src="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/randomizer/random.php?uid=3" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.osirusonline.com/" target="blank">Reefy's website...</a><font color="#ff0000" size="1"><a href="http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm" target="blank">Check out The Ron and Fez Show Logs...UPDATED!!!!!</a>Right now you could care less about me... but soon enough you will care, by the time I'm done</font>You sir, are a Whore's Whore.<br />
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fluffernutter
08-02-2005, 07:22 PM
<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">I was just gonna suggest that. But then I thought it would be <a target="_blank" href="http://unhallowed.com/">unhallowed</a> of me or at the very least <a target="_blank" href="http://www.whackclothing.com/">whack</a>. Though alas I couldn't bring myself to do <a target="_blank" href="http://somesuch.org/">somesuch</a> a thing.</font></p><p>Glad my site never got off the ground.</p><p>Stupid slacker me. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" /></p><p>By the way, What is a Neck Slap? </p>
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Death Metal Moe
08-02-2005, 07:26 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font size="1" /><p>By the way, What is a Neck Slap? </p><img src="http://www.pleaseforgetme.com/SIGS/FRANCH.gif" border="0" /> <br />Ohhhh boy, look at him start!!!
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Reephdweller
08-02-2005, 07:32 PM
<p>Glad <a href="http://www.pleaseforgetme.com/" target="_blank">my site</a> never got off the ground.</p><p>I knew I was forgetting <a href="http://www.pleaseforgetme.com/" target="_blank">someone</a>!!!!</p>
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DJEvelEd
08-02-2005, 07:37 PM
<p>Im nice to everyone!!! I'm so fuckin nice you can just call me 'Ol DJ Popelips.</p><p>No not 'Ol POOPlips! 'Ol POPElips!! </p><p>Fuck it! Call me 'Ol JesusBreath!!</p><p>Nah How 'bout we assign someone to "greet" each Newbie as they enter?</p><p><strong>Death Metal Moe: </strong>"Hi I'm Moe and I'll be your Stomper/Disemboweler today"</p><p><strong>Newbie:</strong> "Hi Moe, I'll have 1 Wrestling Post and 2 Shock Threads to go.</p><p><strong>Death Metal Moe:</strong> *yells* "ADAM & EVE ON A RAFT!!!"</p><p>*Snoogans runs in with a leg drop*</p><p>*CRASH!!!*</p><p>*Evel Ed with 2 Flinger Fæces* </p><p>*FLING...............SPLATT!!!*</p><p><strong>Death Metal Moe:</strong> "Anything to drink sir?"</p><p><strong>Newbie:</strong> "House whine?"</p><p><strong>Wadd:</strong> "Waaaaaaaaa"</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>That's all I got! PUNCHIN OUT!!!!!!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>
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fluffernutter
08-02-2005, 07:55 PM
Not starting anything, just curious Moe.<br />
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mikeyboy
08-02-2005, 07:55 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>Im nice to everyone!!! I'm so fuckin nice you can just call me 'Ol DJ Popelips.</p><p>No not 'Ol POOPlips! 'Ol POPElips!! </p><p>Fuck it! Call me 'Ol JesusBreath!!</p><p>Nah How 'bout we assign someone to "greet" each Newbie as they enter?</p><p><strong>Death Metal Moe: </strong>"Hi I'm Moe and I'll be your Stomper/Disemboweler today"</p><p><strong>Newbie:</strong> "Hi Moe, I'll have 1 Wrestling Post and 2 Shock Threads to go.</p><p><strong>Death Metal Moe:</strong> *yells* "ADAM & EVE ON A RAFT!!!"</p><p>*Snoogans runs in with a leg drop*</p><p>*CRASH!!!*</p><p>*Evel Ed with 2 Flinger Fæces* </p><p>*FLING...............SPLATT!!!*</p><p><strong>Death Metal Moe:</strong> "Anything to drink sir?"</p><p><strong>Newbie:</strong> "House whine?"</p><p><strong>Wadd:</strong> "Waaaaaaaaa"</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>That's all I got! PUNCHIN OUT!!!!!!</p>ED, as much as I'm critical of your poop-centric stylings, I have to say that this particular message board drama in one act made me laugh.<br />
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FUNKMAN
08-02-2005, 08:12 PM
i concur
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Knowledged_one
08-03-2005, 04:02 AM
<p><img height="354" src="http://www.revolution.lv/i/art/4054-warriors-movie-still.GIF" width="542" border="0" /></p><p>I say we go the opposite way form our own gang of veterans....RonandFez come out and plaaayyyayyyy. Think about it we can boss around and belittle the new people and make ourselves feel better about ourselves............we can even take their lunch money. Come on whatta you say lets be assholes to all new people</p>
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sr71blackbird
08-03-2005, 04:43 AM
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Doctor Manhattan
08-03-2005, 04:58 AM
<p><font color="#990000" size="2">Since I'm not a vet (I'm still a super poster) I don't have to follow this policy! YEAH <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" /></font></p><p><font color="#990000" size="2">But seriously, I don't think people on this board have that "Anti-Newbie" thing going on. When I started posting here people answered my questions when I asked, even with my lame username (I was <strong>Sofa King What</strong> when I began. I don't like <strong>SKW</strong> much either, I am trying to think of something better)</font></p><p><font color="#990000" size="2">This is one of the <span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #990000; font-family: verdana">friendliest board on the net.</span></font></p>
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angrymissy
08-03-2005, 05:15 AM
<p>Now when they come here and ask things about the show that to many who post here on a daily basis find annoying or mundane, they may really just want a simple answer. Not a picture of a lock, or a cave, or a random cartoon picture, or a smart ass remark. </p><p>I agree. I think the whole posting a random picture as a response to a post is a little old and annoying myself. It seems like thats what 75% of the posts are here nowadays.</p>
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08-03-2005, 05:16 AM
<p>I hate Newt. How she talks mostly. Mostly.</p>
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Reephdweller
08-03-2005, 05:26 AM
<p>THE NEWBIES GET NOTHING!!</p><p>THE NEWBIES GET NOTHING!!</p><p> </p><p><strong><font size="4">DON'T MAKE A FUKIN' MANIAC OUTTA ME!!</font></strong></p><p><img height="197" src="http://www.ticketservice.com/assets/images/paul_anka3.jpg" width="160" border="0" /></p>
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Doctor Manhattan
08-03-2005, 05:34 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>I agree. I think the whole posting a random picture as a response to a post is a little old and annoying myself. It seems like thats what 75% of the posts are here nowadays. <p><img height="300" src="http://s1.imagesubmit.com/2000090918.jpg" width="400" border="0" /></p><p>just kidding...<br /></p>
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spoon
08-03-2005, 02:50 PM
I say we do the same thing everyone has done here since day one. It is what it is. And without pictures, what the hell is chickenscratch gonna post?
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Mike Teacher
08-03-2005, 03:07 PM
<p>A nice idea, but it will be what it will be. </p><p>The Mods will have their work cut out for them, but they will defeat the Rockers oops wait that's Quadrophenia.</p>
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grlNIN
08-03-2005, 03:12 PM
<p>So seriously, who's gonna spade my cat?</p><p>Eh?</p><p> </p>
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KennethC
08-03-2005, 03:19 PM
<p> </p><p><font size="1">quote: </font></p><p> </p><p>I agree. I think the whole posting a random picture as a response to a post is a little old and annoying myself. It seems like thats what 75% of the posts are here nowadays.</p><br /><p><br /><img height="300" src="http://www.suchmaschinen-optimierung-seo.info/images/google-hacks.gif" width="200" border="0" /></p><img src="http://www.myimgs.com/data/kennethc/ken.jpg" border="0" />
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08-03-2005, 04:19 PM
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Reephdweller
08-03-2005, 05:18 PM
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Carter
08-03-2005, 09:53 PM
Yeah as a new member here on the board i hope that you all won't treat me like crap just because I don't know anything about the show.
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high fly
08-06-2005, 11:49 PM
<p>JPMNick?</p><p> </p><p>Never heard of him.</p><p> </p><p>Is he new?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>
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Knowledged_one
09-12-2005, 11:07 AM
<p>Are we still following the be nice to new posters edict?</p><p>Because frankly, i hate these new people</p>
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mikeyboy
09-12-2005, 11:10 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>Are we still following the be nice to new posters edict?</p><p>Because frankly, i hate these new people</p>Be nice to the new posters. However, such rules need not apply to the trolls.<br />
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Snoogans
09-12-2005, 11:10 AM
<p>im not nice to people based on that. Im nice to people based on what
they say> if they post and are curious or whatever but do it in a
normal person fashion, i help them. If someone has 1 post or 10000 and
acts like a dickhead, im not gonna be nice to them.</p><p> </p><p>SOOOORRY </p>
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Death Metal Moe
09-12-2005, 11:11 AM
<p>Yea, there's plenty of new people who gave constructive criticism or just chimed in how they liked the show. Those like 2 or 3 people who say they hated them were assholes and will be attacked with all we can give them until they fucking go away.</p><p>You hear that motherfuckers? If you're a new poster who is into the show, you will be treated nicely. If you're just here to start trouble, you will be put in your place and ushered out.</p><p>Pathetic assfucks. Eat it.</p>
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Knowledged_one
09-12-2005, 11:29 AM
Yeah, what Moe said
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Evilpete
09-12-2005, 12:29 PM
do I count as a board vet? or can I still pick on the newbies to make myself feel big like how I push 5-year old kids around?<br />
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09-12-2005, 12:32 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>do I count as a board vet? or can I still pick on the newbies to make myslef fell big?<br /><img src="http://mysite.verizon.net/marusfamily/rfnetsigpic2.JPG" border="0" /> IM: PSUDude66 <li><a href="http://www.troubleintheterraces.blogspot.com/">My Pathetic blog, read it and feel better about your life</a></li><br />Not with typos like that you can't!
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Bulldogcakes
09-12-2005, 04:46 PM
<p>I'd like to think that anyone worth listening to could take a little
crap for a while. Sort of run the gauntlet. If they cant take it, fuck
em. They're not RF.NET material. Fuck em if they cant take a joke, or a
little abuse. <br />
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Death Metal Moe
09-12-2005, 04:49 PM
Joke 'em if they can't take a fuck.
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FUNKMAN
09-12-2005, 04:50 PM
life's fun when you're having flies...
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09-12-2005, 05:08 PM
<p>I know how funny all of you are, <font color="#6600ff">myself included</font>.</p><p> </p><p>Now, that's some funny shit!!!!</p>
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09-12-2005, 07:20 PM
this thread rules because none of those fucking new people have posted in here...
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09-12-2005, 07:29 PM
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Knowledged_one
09-13-2005, 05:01 AM
Will they have to hold onto your pocket?
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curtoid
09-13-2005, 06:10 AM
I would not be surprised at all if many of these new people, the ones who came in and stirred up shit yesterday, were really just some of the old ones (like Zappa or K.) with their own personal agendas. I also wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't one or two people from the Don and Mike camp who haven't let that shit go, and thought it would be cute to try and "divide and conqueror" between "The Band." The poster "crustyjizzrag" or whatever reminded me that a few weeks ago I thought I heard a segment on D&M where Don jokingly called his spank rag "Crusty." Maybe, maybe not. It will all blow over soon enough.
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09-13-2005, 07:29 AM
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09-13-2005, 07:33 AM
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09-13-2005, 07:43 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>Will they have to hold onto your pocket? NICE. hahahahaha.<br />
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