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mendyweiss

08-08-2005, 03:25 PM

Think anything goes on Satellite radio because it is a subscription service? Just wait. When Stern moves to Sirius, Sat. Radio will be under the microscope.With the mood of this country and Congress as well as the Media watchdog Eliot Spitzer, nothing is off limits.Watch the big shareholders of these companies put the arm on the suits of these companies.OnA better watch where those wiffle bal bats go.Scary times indeed!

I say sweeping the pockets of the Dutchman was not Mob business!

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08-08-2005, 03:47 PM

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Reephdweller

08-08-2005, 03:55 PM

It's a pay service. Plus the FCC does not have any current say over satelite radio content. You may be right someday, though at this point it's not going to happen anytime soon.

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Pyrettablaze

08-08-2005, 03:59 PM

probably, the religious finatics want to think for everyone. Because i love to hear profanity on my radio means im just ignorant to the lord in their eyes and since im not goign to save myself, they are goign to try and save me with thier strong arm tactics. Same goes for video games, they know whats best for YOU. Thus since there are so many finatics in this land, the government figures they will try and win their vote so they can get another term by doing anything that will please them. This is why religion runs this semi free land of ours. The country where you are free to follow the rules set out for you to follow.

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PapaBear

08-08-2005, 04:24 PM

quote: It's a pay service. Plus the FCC does not have any current say over satelite radio content. You may be right someday, though at this point it's not going to happen anytime soon. <img src="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/randomizer/random.php?uid=3" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.osirusonline.com/" target="blank">Reefy's website...</a><a href="http://www.osirusonline.com/ronfez.htm" target="blank">Check out The Ron and Fez Show Logs...UPDATED!!!!!</a>Right now you could care less about me... but soon enough you will care, by the time I'm doneThe FCC doesn't have any say, because they don't choose to at this point. That can change in a second. No act of Congress required. They do whatever they choose, and noone tries to stop them. 

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08-08-2005, 04:28 PM

quote: Think anything goes on Satellite radio because it is a subscription service? Just wait. When Stern moves to Sirius, Sat. Radio will be under the microscope.With the mood of this country and Congress as well as the Media watchdog Eliot Spitzer, nothing is off limits.Watch the big shareholders of these companies put the arm on the suits of these companies.OnA better watch where those wiffle bal bats go.Scary times indeed!I say sweeping the pockets of the Dutchman was not Mob business! I'd like to say, for the record, this is the stupidest post EVER EVER EVER.Care to explain how HBO hasn't fallen under the microscope?Easy.  You pay for it and you can adjust the service so you don't have to listen to that channel.  Problem solved.Shush.

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Pyrettablaze

08-08-2005, 04:35 PM

I in no way am goign to compare HBO to sat radio, but if HBO were to show full penetration would that be a violation against the FCC?

Tazz

08-08-2005, 04:39 PM

quote:I
in no way am goign to compare HBO to sat radio, but if HBO were to show
full penetration would that be a violation against the FCC? Uh...no

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Reephdweller

08-08-2005, 04:40 PM

The FCC doesn't have any say, because they don't choose to at this point. That can change in a second. No act of Congress required. They do whatever they choose, and noone tries to stop them. Notice that I wrote the word "current". They currently do not have any involvement in the broadcast content. I never said they couldn't at some point. Presently they don't but they might someday which I think is pretty clear what I wrote. I seriously doubt it since it's a pay service. Just my opinion.

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Tazz

08-08-2005, 04:42 PM

The FCC can't even regulate what is on basic cable like Spike or Comedy Central at this point in time. 

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mikeyboy

08-08-2005, 04:54 PM

quote: I in no way am goign to compare HBO to sat radio, but if HBO were to show full penetration would that be a violation against the FCC? HBO doesn't show full penetration largely because they would lose a significant part of their subscriber base uf they did.  Also, some cable systems would be unlikely to carry it.

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Tenbatsuzen

08-08-2005, 05:51 PM

Care for anyone to explain to me how my MyFi would show penetration as well?

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08-08-2005, 06:09 PM

quote:Think
anything goes on Satellite radio because it is a subscription service?
Just wait. When Stern moves to Sirius, Sat. Radio will be under the
microscope.With the mood of this country and Congress as well as the
Media watchdog Eliot Spitzer, nothing is off limits.Watch the big
shareholders of these companies put the arm on the suits of these
companies.OnA better watch where those wiffle bal bats go.Scary times indeed!

I say sweeping the pockets of the Dutchman was not Mob business! They
can't do anything and they have no interest in doing anything. I
remember reading a month or 2 ago on xm411.com how the FCC officially
said that they have no intention on regulating satellite radio. Its a
pay service! You are paying to hear swears and uncencored stuff.   Howard
Stern tries to say that the FCC is going to regulate satellite radio
because it creates drama for his show. "The FCC is out to get me"

Tall_James

08-08-2005, 06:27 PM

Think anything goes on Satellite radio because it is a subscription service? Just wait. When Stern moves to Sirius, Sat. Radio will be under the microscope.With the mood of this country and Congress as well as the Media watchdog Eliot Spitzer, nothing is off limits.Watch the big shareholders of these companies put the arm on the suits of these companies.OnA better watch where those wiffle bal bats go.Scary times indeed!That tin foil hat looks good on you!

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Recyclerz

08-08-2005, 06:59 PM

Well then I better go down to the A&P to get the heavy duty, extra-wide aluminum foil for my noggin.  (note: tin? foil - TJ you can't be that old.) <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" /><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64548-2005Mar1.html" target="_self">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64548-2005Mar1.html</a>Excerpt:    But Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) told a group of broadcasters yesterday that he wants to extend that authority to cover the hundreds of cable and satellite television and radio channels that operate outside of the government's control. In addition to basic cable channels such as ESPN, Discovery and MTV, that would include premium channels such as HBO and Showtime and the two satellite radio services, XM and Sirius.  "We put restrictions on the over-the-air signals," Stevens said after his address to the National Association of Broadcasters, according to news reports confirmed by his staff. "I think we can put restrictions on cable itself. At least I intend to do my best to push that." This guy is one of the power brokers in the Senate  (Check out all the $ going to Alaska in the recently signed energy and highway bills if you don't believe me) and not generally seen as a religious nut.  Now he may well have been talking shit to keep the media on their toes or appealing to the religious right for the hell of it, but it's just as likely that he's an old fart who thinks cussin and whorin and such belongs in the men's clubs where it used to be (and stay).  And the Senate happens to be full of guys like that.If cable and satellite stay "self-regulated", and I think they will for awhile at least, it won't be due to the logic of "if I'm paying for it I should be able to see/hear/feel whatever I want" ; it will be because the media conglomerates will pay large protection money to keep the government out.

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08-09-2005, 03:11 AM

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JimBeam

08-09-2005, 08:00 AM

Here's the thing that I don't get when we assume that the gov't can't regulate sattelite radio.Both HBO and USA are part of a subscription package correct ?So then why can't USA use dirty words and show boobies like HBO does ?You can't get USA without paying some type of subscription so that theory is out the window.So where is and why is there a line there ? 

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Tazz

08-09-2005, 08:05 AM

So then why can't USA use dirty words and show boobies like HBO does ?They can, they just chose not to because they fear losing advertising money. That is why they never got in trouble for the piss poor job they used to do beeping swears on wrestling back in the day and why Comedy Central had no problem airing the "shit" episode. 

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MrMarcus

08-09-2005, 08:31 AM

If the govt. can regulate satellite which is a pay service, then the govt. can regulate books, magazines, and newspapers as well.  The only reason why the FCC gets away with regulating broadcast TV and radio is because there's a limited number of airwaves available, and the public owns those airwaves.  Thus, content has to reflect the common public's sentiments on morality, and since the religious fundies are very organized, what they want shown and heard wins.  Satellite does not have these limitations.  They are not owned by the public in any way.  They are not limited, and thus, the public has no right to influence its content other than the basic rules against obscenity and kiddie porn.  Satellite is in the same family as newspapers and magazines.   Now, with all of that said, given the current political trends, the new Supreme Court justices, and the influence of the religious right on the government, in particular, the Republicans, things may indeed change.  The govt may indeed start to regulate books, magazines, satellite, video games, movies, and even the internet.  Why?  Because the people who want religious control of our lives are very organized, and they vote. Politicians love these kinds of issues because it's easy for them to get these votes.  If being against breasts on HBO wins them votes in Georgia, then they'll run on getting rid of breasts on HBO.Bottom line people is this, you have to vote to protect your freedoms.  We have to pay to listen to O&A and Ron & Fez because we didn't vote to protect our freedoms.

angrymissy

08-09-2005, 09:20 AM

Comedy Central also plays unedited moves late night (I think starting at 1AM?).  They've shown the unedited South Park movie a bunch of times

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TheMojoPin

08-09-2005, 11:56 AM

Right (CC plays unedited, but still with commercials, movies and programs at 1 AM on Saturday nights in their "Secret Stash." ...basic cable channels opt to censor themselves to not drive away advertisers and viewers, as it's been said here already.There IS a fine line to be had that makes sense...and extreme in EITHER direction is pretty tedious and unexciting.<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> 1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

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MrMarcus

08-10-2005, 06:40 AM

Another good example is FX.  They are pushing the boundaries with every show.  On "The Shield", they allow cursing, and on "Nip/Tuck", it's almost soft-core porn.  Also, look at Cartoon Network's "Adult Swim".  Their shows really push the limits, esp. for a family-friendly animation network.The big problem for all of these networks is that they depend on advertising dollars, and advertisers are highly sensitive to organized boycotts.

TheMojoPin

08-10-2005, 06:53 AM

None of those shows, however, are on before 10 PM (and, quite frankly, they shouldn't be). (Well, "Family Guy" is on at 9 PM on Fox Sundays), which goes a long way to sparing them the wrath of the ultra sensitive.  Who's gonna want to look like a douche and say they were letting their kid watch what's technically "late night" cable TV?  Plus, they're all plastered with warnings, before and during the show and in all advertisements, so the networks have really been going out of their way to cover their asses pretty well.But really, what "boundary" is being pushed?  Ooooh, someone said "shit"...and look, there's an ass!  Is this really that earth-shaking?  Ongoing QUALITY TV would be more shocking to me at this point, not cheap gimmicks used as a crutch.

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tbonesteak

08-10-2005, 08:30 AM

The main reason why HBO chooses to air nudity, cursing, and other censored content is because they don't depend on advertising revenue and therefore, they don't have to worry about alienating their sponsors.  USA and other cable stations are allowed to show whatever they want but they are careful about pushing the envelope because they don't want to scare away advertisers.  That's why, as long as XM receives revenue from marketing and advertisements, there will always be the possibility that they will censor their programs.  This doesn't mean that there will be any involvement from the government or the FCC.  It's simply because they are in the business of making money and their shareholders will put pressure on the network and the stations if they feel that the content is scaring people away.  This is just basic business sense.  

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Death Metal Moe

08-10-2005, 08:43 AM

How many times are we all gonna say the same thing?

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Reephdweller

08-10-2005, 09:00 AM

Umm...How many times are we all gonna say the same thing? 

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Knowledged_one

08-10-2005, 09:09 AM

Seriously guys how many times can the same thing be said just phrased differently

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curtoid

08-10-2005, 09:20 AM

Listen, fellas, why must we continue to simply repeat the same things, but with different words in different places?

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Doctor Manhattan

08-10-2005, 09:23 AM

So, how many times are we going to say the same things that were said before, but with different words and fonts?

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Knowledged_one

08-10-2005, 09:24 AM

Hay dios mio, porque es necessario que hablar como este topico muchos tiempos con los palabras se repiten

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TheRealEddie

08-10-2005, 09:47 AM

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08-10-2005, 09:49 AM

mikeyboy

08-10-2005, 09:56 AM

How much to talk same many time?

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08-10-2005, 09:58 AM

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KillOReilly

08-10-2005, 10:03 AM

My friend was telling me that the Government couldn't really regulate XM or Siruis since they are pay services. So I said "Really?" and then he said "Yeah"

My hand to god...

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BigASSMember

08-10-2005, 10:04 AM

is there possibly another way for you to say something you already said many times... 

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Furtherman

08-10-2005, 10:28 AM

Don't sugarcoat it for me.  Give it to me straight.  What's the word on the street?

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Doctor Manhattan

08-10-2005, 10:50 AM

found this here: <a href="http://radio.about.com/od/satelliteradio/a/aa121504a.htm">http://radio.about.com/od/satelliteradio/a/aa121504a.htm</a> quote: Not Indecency Cops: F.C.C. Chooses to Keep Nose Out of Satellite Radio's Content  <h2>Dateline: 12/15/04</h2>Today the Federal Communications Commission announced it would not considering revising rules on indecent content broadcast by either XM or SIRIUS Satellite Radio. ...  The Commission reiterated it "...has previously ruled that 'subscription-based services do not call into play the issue of indecency...and that '[c]onsistent with existing case law, the Commission does not impose regulations regarding indecency on services lacking the indiscriminate access to children that characterizes broadcasting.'" ... This will no doubt be welcomed news by both Satellite Radio providers and may also spur on further sales and interest in both service by fans of Howard Stern and Opie & Anthony who will continue to play major roles in attracting listeners to both SIRIUS and XM Satellite Radio, respectively.  I find it hard to believe this was said with different words well before this thread was even created. Oh well, live and learn.But I'm still wondering if there are other ways to convey this information. Perhaps via an Internet Radio show and using differing words and phrases to say the very same thing.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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Knowledged_one

08-10-2005, 11:48 AM

This? Why, I can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl...

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curtoid

08-10-2005, 12:04 PM

It's been said many times, many ways, Merry Christmas, to you. 

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