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JimBeam

09-08-2005, 06:47 PM

They've started casting for Spiderman 3Topher Graces as VenomThomas Hayden Church as SandmanJames Franco as Hobgoblin ( as opposed to Green Goblin II )Not sure what the difference between Green Goblin & Hobgoblin is though.Link:<a href="http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/news/index.php?Action=Full&NewsID=3355" target="_blank">http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/news/index.php?Action=Full&NewsID=3355</a>I have balls !!!

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HBox

09-08-2005, 06:50 PM

IF that's all true, it doesn't take a rocket
scientist to figure out what route they;re going down with Venom as
opposed to the comics. Interesting, to me anyway.And even if
that's all true, I'd bet this movie is going to be centered on Church's
character, with the other's being set up for further
sequels. 

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mikeyboy

09-08-2005, 06:56 PM

The Topher Grace casting is old news.  R&F even did a comedy pyramid on it back in May.<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/displaymedia.cfm/id/2818" target="_self">Spiderman villains scarier than Topher Grace</a>

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HBox

09-08-2005, 06:57 PM

The casting isn't news, but the names of their characters were never revealed. 

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JustJon

09-08-2005, 07:40 PM

Not sure what the difference between Green Goblin & Hobgoblin is though. <img width="400" height="480" border="0" src="http://www.heldenshop.de/images/tobias/1zu4greengoblin.jpg" /> <img width="215" height="393" border="0" src="http://www.antaninet.it/marvel-universe/h/hobgoblin2.jpg" /> 

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09-08-2005, 07:49 PM

So basically, the Hobgoblin's head would have looked stupid on the front of a killer truck in "Maximum Overdrive".

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TheGameHHH

09-08-2005, 11:01 PM

Wait, is Eric Forman supposed to be a villan?

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XMRonFez

09-09-2005, 12:47 AM

What about The Lizard?... They already introduced Curt Conners and very briefly showed that he was missing an arm. I really wish they would do one villian per movie with quick references to other villians. <img height="402" src="http://www.samruby.com/Villains/Lizard/LizardBagleyLogo2.gif" width="316" border="0" /><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetXMRonFez.jpg" border="0" />

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Doctor Manhattan

09-09-2005, 03:40 AM

quote: Not sure what the difference between Green Goblin & Hobgoblin is though. Not much difference. In the comics they would kill off/retire one Goblin and then want to bring him back so they just used a different person in a similar suit:I think the Original Green Goblin faked his death, The Original Green Goblin's son became Green Goblin II, His Doctor treated him but secretly did it to become the 3rd Green Goblin, Some other guy found his secret lair and became HobGoblin, Harry Osborn retured as Green Goblin II, Yet another guy became the 4th Green Goblin, Norman Osborn created some kind of clone to become the 5th Green Goblin, Norman came back to being the Green Goblin, etc. I think there is also a seperate story line with an "Ultimate Green Goblin"<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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badorties

09-09-2005, 05:00 AM

<a target="_self" href="http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/116.html">COMICS 101: THE DEATH OF THE GREEN GOBLIN, REDUX</a> offers some insight into the goblin/osborne family

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JustJon

09-09-2005, 05:34 AM

quote:So basically, the Hobgoblin's head would have looked stupid on the front of a killer truck in "Maximum Overdrive".

 

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JimBeam

09-09-2005, 08:15 AM

After I posted that I went back and looked at some link that gave a chronology of the characters.There were like 5 Green Goblins and like 3 Hobgoblins.Apparently the 5th GG was a synthetic human or something ( created to keep the heat off of the real one ) that dissolved after a fight with Spiderman.

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DarkHippie

09-09-2005, 09:33 AM

Apparently the 5th GG was a synthetic human or something ( created to keep the heat off of the real one ) that dissolved after a fight with Spiderman.Was that left over from the Ben riley bullshit?

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JimBeam

09-09-2005, 09:33 AM

Im not sure.I'll try and find the site that had the info.

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JimBeam

09-09-2005, 09:38 AM

I'm not able to connect at work but this is the site that I viewed last night :<a href="http://www.samruby.com/" target="_blank">http://www.samruby.com/</a>Go to the Villains link.It gives a lot of detail on Spiderman in gerneral. I have balls !!!

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Knowledged_one

09-09-2005, 09:43 AM

As i recall the Hobgoblin was actually Jason Phillip Macendale.  Although one of the major story lines was that Flash Thompson was the Hobgoblin.Plus the hobgoblin does not wear a mask anymore, he was permenantly altered during the whole N'astrith/Goblin Queen/Madelyne Prior/X-Men/Mr. Sinister thing.  I think the story arc was like inferno or something along those lines.  He also got stronger after the transformation to rival spider man.God im a nerd

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CaptClown

09-09-2005, 12:15 PM

The original Hobgoblin was Ned Leeds, Betty's husband. Jason Philip Macendale became the hobgoblin after the Foriegner had Leeds killed in Berlin. Is that geeky enough?

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JimBeam

09-09-2005, 12:21 PM

I never realized how deep the Spiderman stories got.They never got that way on the Electric Company

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cougarjake13

09-09-2005, 01:47 PM

not that movies ever follow the comics truly but wasn't venom in the comicsa huge and muscular blonde guy?

MrPink

09-09-2005, 01:54 PM

not that movies ever follow the comics truly but wasn't venom in the comicsa huge and muscular blonde guy?I always remember him as big dude, but it could be the Venom alien thing that makes him big. Standard comic book cliche...

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fezident

09-09-2005, 03:00 PM

I used to have the Spidey comic book that featured the origin of The Hobgoblin.  I think this was around 1985 (give or take) and I vaaaaguely remember that some dude found the old Green Goblins warehouse or something like that.  I wonder if that comic has any value now.  I probably shouldn't have gotten rid of them.  Crap.

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DarkHippie

09-09-2005, 06:19 PM

quote:  quote: not that movies ever follow the comics truly but wasn't venom in the comics  a huge and muscular blonde guy?  I always remember him as big dude, but it could be the Venom alien thing that makes him big. Standard comic book cliche...Venom was big, but eddie brock was pretty average 

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09-09-2005, 06:45 PM

quote: I always remember him as big dude, but it could be the Venom alien thing that makes him big. Standard comic book cliche...Venom was big, but eddie brock was pretty average <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/Canofsoup15/Sigs/HippieRat.jpg" border="0" /> Finally on Myspace <a href="http://www.myspace.com/darkhippie" target="_blank">Visit this Website</a>Please love meI remember watching one of the newer spidey cartoons recently and they had a muscular guythat wore a spidey like costume..what about Carnage? I don't remember but did he ever have a human form?

MrPink

09-09-2005, 08:04 PM

what about Carnage? I don't remember but did he ever have a human form?Yeah he was serial killer and then something happened that turned him into Carnage.

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Def Dave in SC

09-10-2005, 09:35 AM

I have the collection of comics that are the origin of the
Hobgoblin.  Basically a small time criminal stumbles accross a
lair of the Green Goblin, and he decides to use the stuff.  He
dyes the costume and renames himself the Hobgoblin. I cannot be held responsible for the details of any of the other incarnations of the Hobgoblin 

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JustJon

09-10-2005, 10:45 AM

quote:As
i recall the Hobgoblin was actually Jason Phillip Macendale. Although
one of the major story lines was that Flash Thompson was the Hobgoblin.It
was supposed to be Flash, but they changed the reveal somehow to be
someone else.  I read an interview with David where he points out
how the dialogue is inconsistent with the art because the editor or
whomever had it changed on him. what about Carnage? I don't remember but did he ever have a human form? Cletus
Kassiday was Brock's cellmate in prison.  The costume comes in to
break Brock out and leaves behind some black goo.  Turns out the
costume reproduces asexually and Cletus becomes Carnage. And
if you want to read a really interesting bhind the scenes account fo
the who Clone Saga, google "Life of Reilly."  REally interesting
shit. 

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HBox

02-24-2006, 02:01 AM

<img width="540" height="795" border="0" src="http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/spidey3teaser.jpg" />You might be wondering, is that a black costume or a black and white image? <a href="http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/" target="_blank">It's a black costume.</a> This all but confirms what character Topher Grace is playing.

Sheeplovr

02-24-2006, 05:19 AM

This all but confirms what character Topher Grace is playing. I
think they are just introducing the Sybiot  and Eddie Brock and
wont be venom till the end end of the movie that is why they are so
secretive because its not a venom movie its a sybiot with sandman and
green iron goblin

booster11373

02-24-2006, 05:22 AM

Black costume Spiderman was the only major superhero costume change that I ever liked.

EliSnow

02-24-2006, 05:28 AM

HBox wrote: <img height="795" src="http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/spidey3teaser.jpg" width="540" border="0" />You might be wondering, is that a black costume or a black and white image? <a href="http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/" target="_blank">It's a black costume.</a> This all but confirms what character Topher Grace is playing. Is there something reflected in his eye?If I were in the movies or television, I'd be able to isolate the eye, enlarge and enhance with just a couple of key strokes, and I'd be able to see ..... something.But instead, I'm a real life boring person.

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EliSnow

02-24-2006, 05:32 AM

booster11373 wrote: Black costume Spiderman was the only major superhero costume change that I ever liked. What about Electro Supes?Armored Captain America?How about at the very least, Wolvie's brown/tan costume?

curtoid

02-24-2006, 05:34 AM

EliSnow wrote: Is there something reflected in his eye?  I see the doorway to a thousand churches

booster11373

02-24-2006, 05:37 AM

Don't forgetAZ-BatmanThat Blue and red Daredevil costume(the one in the early mid 90's)Armored ThorBig M magneto

EliSnow

02-24-2006, 05:37 AM

curtoid wrote: EliSnow wrote: Is there something reflected in his eye?  I see the doorway to a thousand churches Nice.

EliSnow

02-24-2006, 05:38 AM

booster11373 wrote: Don't forgetAZ-BatmanThat Blue and red Daredevil costume(the one in the early mid 90's)Armored ThorBig M magnetoI was trying to forget Big M Magneto.  Thanks.

booster11373

02-24-2006, 05:39 AM

By the way.Anyone know why they just changed Spideys costume in the comics again?

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Tenbatsuzen

02-24-2006, 05:40 AM

I hate to say it... I've never been a fan of Tobey as Peter. Gyllenhaal or Grace would have been a lot better, especially given Grace's comedy background.

It's an interesting take on the black suit. It just looks like a black version of the regular suit. In the comics, there was a distinct difference. It was just pure black, with the white accents for the eyes, logo, and hands.

Perhaps, again, it's Hollywood logic, that the suit needs some definition to look better on film.

Another thing about the black suit - it had "topside" webshooters... with the biological webshooters, that's not going to happen.

TheMojoPin

02-24-2006, 05:44 AM

The topside thing never made any sense, since he needs to grab the webs with his hand to swing on them.And yeah, I wish it was the black suit from the comic book.  Very cool design, and like it's been said, the only costume revamp I liked and actually enjoyed more than the original version.

Tenbatsuzen

02-24-2006, 05:46 AM

BTW...

I never thought Bryce Dallas Howard was hot until she showed on Leno in full Gwen Stacy regalia. Holy crap.

Tenbatsuzen

02-24-2006, 05:48 AM

I like how Sony had to post on the site that it's a black suit after all the fansites were like, "is that a B&W pic or a black suit?"

I have a feeling that poster is going back to the drawing board to "pop" the colors a little more before the poster is put into the theatres for the drooling masses.

TheMojoPin

02-24-2006, 05:53 AM

Off topic...am I the only one that still finds Dunst looks more like a shuffling hag-zombie than Mary Jane?  That snaggle-toothed beast is AWFUL.

EliSnow

02-24-2006, 06:01 AM

booster11373 wrote: By the way.Anyone know why they just changed Spideys costume in the comics again?Do you mean real-life reasons or story reasons?  The real life reason was clearly to get some interest in the comic, so if you switch costumes people will buy the comic for collectible reasons, and then maybe stick with the comic if they like the story.Story reason-wise, Spidey died as a result of a battle with Morlun, a being that kills "totem" beings, such as Spider-man.  During the battle, Spidey exhibited some new powers, such as stingers from his arm.  He also killed Morlun which bathed Spidey in energies that led to his resurrection.  He now has several new powers.  As a result of his being on the Avengers, Peter has gotten to know Tony Stark.  Stark has built Peter a new outfit (which is why it's red and gold - Iron Man's colors) that will have some extras such as mechanical arms.

TheMojoPin

02-24-2006, 06:04 AM

And it's all terribly written and really, really horrible to read, and it'll all be forgotten within a year or two.

booster11373

02-24-2006, 06:10 AM

Thanks for the update and the warning.I still read Ultimate Spiderman which has been pretty good for awhile now.

EliSnow

02-24-2006, 06:16 AM

booster11373 wrote: Thanks for the update and the warning.I still read Ultimate Spiderman which has been pretty good for awhile now.Ultimate Spidey has been consistently one of the top five Marvel comics since it started.  It's had its ups and downs, but all in all, a great book.

booster11373

02-24-2006, 06:24 AM

I'm going to reorder my weekly pull list soon. I will be keeping Ult spidey and the Ultimates god that title takes forever to come out, but Im going to drop Ult Xmen and UltFF those 2 books lost my interest.

EliSnow

02-24-2006, 06:28 AM

booster11373 wrote: I'm going to reorder my weekly pull list soon. I will be keeping Ult spidey and the Ultimates god that title takes forever to come out, but Im going to drop Ult Xmen and UltFF those 2 books lost my interest. I dropped those two titles (along with a bunch of others) about two months ago.  I've been trying to save some money.

Tenbatsuzen

02-24-2006, 08:21 AM

Is there a way to collect all the Ultimate Spideys in one big swoop?  I know there's a couple of graphic novels, but I'm trying to get all of them in a volume.

Fallon

02-24-2006, 08:25 AM

is there something reflected in his eye?If
I were in the movies or television, I'd be able to isolate the eye,
enlarge and enhance with just a couple of key strokes, and I'd be able
to see ..... something.But instead, I'm a real life boring person.<img width="594" height="343" border="0" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/spidey.jpg" />

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02-24-2006, 08:42 AM

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TheMojoPin

02-24-2006, 08:45 AM

Actually, if they're sticking to the comic, he's probably asleep and the costume is controling him.

EliSnow

02-24-2006, 09:03 AM

Fallon wrote: is there something reflected in his eye? If I were in the movies or television, I'd be able to isolate the eye, enlarge and enhance with just a couple of key strokes, and I'd be able to see ..... something.But instead, I'm a real life boring person.  <img height="343" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/spidey.jpg" width="594" border="0" /> So, there is something there.  It's just not clear.

Patches

02-24-2006, 09:05 AM

So, there is something there.  It's just not clear. Jizz.

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02-24-2006, 09:10 AM

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jax

02-24-2006, 09:19 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Off topic...am I the only one that still finds Dunst looks more like a shuffling hag-zombie than Mary Jane?  That snaggle-toothed beast is AWFUL. I agree 100%.  It's not that Mary Jane has to be a total stunner but Dunst's unattractiveness is actually a distraction in every scene she is in.

TheMojoPin

02-24-2006, 09:29 AM

Damn right!  She's never seemed hot...I still maintain that she's just Billy Corgan in a wig with saggy granny-teets.

Judge Smails

02-24-2006, 09:45 AM

<img height="125" src="http://www.personal.uni-jena.de/~b1risa/i30.jpg" width="252" border="0" />She was hot in Interview with the Vampire.  What . . .  is that too creepy to say? Just because she was like 10? Anyway, it all went downhill for her from then.

curtoid

02-24-2006, 11:03 AM

At least that slutty Gwen will be in this movie.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/curtoid/gwen.jpg

JustJon

02-24-2006, 11:04 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Is there a way to collect all the Ultimate Spideys in one big swoop? I know there's a couple of graphic novels, but I'm trying to get all of them in a volume.   They release each 6 issue arc into a softcover collection and every 2 softcovers in an oversized hardcover.  Barnes and Noble also released a single hardcover containing the frist 36 issues. My recommendation is get the B&N collection then just get the other hardcovers.

Tenbatsuzen

02-24-2006, 11:42 AM

JustJon wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Is there a way to collect all the Ultimate Spideys in one big swoop? I know there's a couple of graphic novels, but I'm trying to get all of them in a volume. They release each 6 issue arc into a softcover collection and every 2 softcovers in an oversized hardcover. Barnes and Noble also released a single hardcover containing the frist 36 issues. My recommendation is get the B&N collection then just get the other hardcovers.    Thank you sir. Agreed on Kirsten Dunst being not right for Mary Jane.  There's a TON of other women who would have been so much better in this role.It's funny.  I don't like Maguire, and I don't like Dunst, yet both movies are in my top 10 comic book movies.

CrashingNun

02-24-2006, 11:50 AM

is that... Staples i see in there?

booster11373

02-24-2006, 01:26 PM

What would be easier to explain?1. How spidey got the black costume and its effects on him from Secret Wars version2. Ultimate spidey black costume version.My guess is they will use a little of both in the movie

EliSnow

02-24-2006, 01:35 PM

booster11373 wrote: What would be easier to explain?1. How spidey got the black costume and its effects on him from Secret Wars version2. Ultimate spidey black costume version.My guess is they will use a little of both in the movieNeither.  I say it will be closer to the version used in the '90's animated series.  If I remember right, in that series, he saved John Jameson's shuttle which the symbiote was in.  So I think that we'll see him come across the symbiote while saving someone.  Perhaps it will be someone messing with science, or something from outer space.  I don't think they will go with the angle that the symbiote was part of research created by Peter's father.  The thing is, I can't see the Venom story told in one movie.  First you have to have Spidey get the costume and fight with it.  Second, he has to realize it's bad for him, then get rid of it.  Third, the symbiote has to bond with Brock or whoever they create for the movie to form Venom.  Fourth, Venom has to attack and beat Spidey (to establish that he's a badass).  Fifth, Spidey has to beat Venom.  I say that can't happen in one movie especially if the Sandman is another big villain.  

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JustJon

02-24-2006, 02:45 PM

There's a Q&A on AICN right now that may be fake but sounds like it could be very real.  Sounds like it's a mix between the comic and a new interpretation (the symbiote comes in contact with Sandman - I assume giving it that shape shifting ability) and Venom is really only in one fight, a big final battle vs Sandman vs Spidey, with Green Goblin assisting Spidey. And from first glance it looked like a variation on Green Goblin to me in the poster's eye.

HBox

02-24-2006, 02:51 PM

<img width="337" height="298" border="0" src="http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2721/sm5ah.jpg" />It's just a building.

HBox

02-24-2006, 03:13 PM

I also saw that Q&A that Jon was talking about, although it's been taken down. I'll spoiler this for my impressions of it:I got the impression reading it that Venom is gonna be almost a throwaway character. Sandman sounds like he'll get much more screentime, and the guy in the Q&A said Venom ain't coming back, although he said a slight cliffhanger will be left. Basically, Venom is done but the symbiote will still be around. Doesn't take much to ascertain where that might be going. Also, as far as cameos, Bruce Campbell will be a charcter called Quentin Beck. Look it up. I can't remember how the symbiote comes to earth, but I do remember that it Peter first contacts it by stepping on it, bringing it back to his apartment. The symbiote then infects the costume, which is why the costume looks normal except black. It takes over Peter when he puts it on, and he gets rid of it using a church bell, where it falls down and immediately comes into contact with Brock. The guy then says the Venom is pretty much a a behind the scenes character until the end. The final fight has Spiderman and Green Goblin 2 against Sandman and Venom. Neither Gwen Stacy nor Mary Jane die. This is all assuming that the Q&A was accurate.So that's that, and I don't really know how I feel.

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JustJon

02-24-2006, 03:38 PM

HBox wrote: where it falls down and immediately comes into contact with Brock.   You remembered that part wrong.  The Q&A said Sandman, not Brock. And Quentin Beck was always a fave villain growing up.

HBox

02-24-2006, 03:41 PM

Well, somebody on the AICN talkback said that the whole thing escept the poster was a SuperheroHype hoax trying to make AICN look like fools. So who knows?

Doctor Manhattan

02-24-2006, 05:52 PM

So the poster is real?I miss Comic-Book Black spiderman costume:<img src="http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3797/cover7lz.jpg" border="0" />

HBox

02-24-2006, 06:28 PM

Poster is real.

Se7en

02-24-2006, 08:55 PM

curtoid wrote: At least that slutty Gwen will be in this movie.<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/curtoid/gwen.jpg" border="0" />Except that if you believe the rumors, they've hired Bryce Howard for that role.  Which would mean that they've gone out of their way to hire someone who's significantly LESS attractive than even Kirsten Dunst.

Tenbatsuzen

02-24-2006, 08:59 PM

Se7en wrote: Except that if you believe the rumors, they've hired Bryce Howard for that role. Which would mean that they've gone out of their way to hire someone who's significantly LESS attractive than even Kirsten Dunst.   They're not rumors, it's legit.<img width="430" height="743" border="0" src="http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/spider-man-3/1spidey020206.jpg" />It's a bad picture of her, and she's STILL hotter than dunst.  Sorry.

HBox

02-24-2006, 09:02 PM

They are both ass ugly. Topher Grace would be more attractive in either role.

Tenbatsuzen

02-24-2006, 09:04 PM

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HBox

02-24-2006, 09:07 PM

Ron Howard in a blonde wig.

Ndugu

02-24-2006, 09:25 PM

<img src="http://home.student.uu.se/kabe0427/Fonzie.jpg" border="0" />I'd hit it eyyyyyyyyyy

HBox

02-24-2006, 09:37 PM

Wait, let me get this straight. Blonde Kirsten Dunst has to dye her hair red to play Mary Jane, and red head Bryce Dallas Howard has to dye her hair blonde to play Gwen Stacy? I'm reminded of that old Brian Regan bit where two trucks carrying logs cross each other going opposite ways on a highway. "If they need a red head over there, and they need blonde over there................. I don't understand it."

Tenbatsuzen

02-24-2006, 09:46 PM

HBox wrote: Wait, let me get this straight. Blonde Kirsten Dunst has to dye her hair red to play Mary Jane, and red head Bryce Dallas Howard has to dye her hair blonde to play Gwen Stacy? I'm reminded of that old Brian Regan bit where two trucks carrying logs cross each other going opposite ways on a highway. "If they need a red head over there, and they need blonde over there................. I don't understand it."    Would "Cup of Dirt" be an accurate description for X-Men 3?

HBox

02-24-2006, 09:53 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: HBox wrote: Wait, let me get this straight. Blonde Kirsten Dunst has to dye her hair red to play Mary Jane, and red head Bryce Dallas Howard has to dye her hair blonde to play Gwen Stacy? I'm reminded of that old Brian Regan bit where two trucks carrying logs cross each other going opposite ways on a highway. "If they need a red head over there, and they need blonde over there................. I don't understand it." Would "Cup of Dirt" be an accurate description for X-Men 3?   I'm thinking more of the Spider Web gag, ironically. Because I have a feeling that the movie is going to be as ridiculous looking as a guy caught in a spider web.

TheMojoPin

02-27-2006, 12:17 PM

So some nerd on a computer spends a few minutes with Photoshop and comes up with a version of the black costume for the movie that looks more like it did in the comic and less, well, like ass:<img height="672" src="http://images.aintitcool.com/images2006/Blackenstein.jpg" width="458" border="0" />

booster11373

02-27-2006, 12:29 PM

Can someone forward that to Sam Raimi and Sony please

Tall_James

06-27-2006, 09:58 AM

<a href="http://www.filmwad.com/spider-man-3-teaser--558-p.html" target="_self">BOOTLEG SPIDERMAN 3 TRAILER - IT'S LEGIT !!!!</a>Spoilers in White....Looks like they're staying true to the symbiote story in the comics, including the way Spidey finally frees himself of it.  Oh, and Sandman looks fucking AWESOME!!!

Crippler

06-27-2006, 10:07 AM

I can't stand the fact that I have to wait nearly a year to see this film.  I fully expect it to surpass 1 & 2, both of which I already loved, and unlike the 3rd installment of XMen.

Tall_James

06-27-2006, 10:10 AM

Check apple.com at 2:30ET today for official version.

Tall_James

06-27-2006, 10:34 AM

<a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/spider-man_3/" target="_self">And here is the official version....</a>

cougarjake13

06-29-2006, 05:12 PM

Tall_James wrote: <a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/spider-man_3/" target="_self">And here is the official version....</a> is there a version that you dont need quictime to view it ????

Don Stugots

06-29-2006, 05:19 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: Tall_James wrote: <a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/spider-man_3/" target="_self">And here is the official version....</a> is there a version that you dont need quictime to view it ????please share.

TheMojoPin

06-29-2006, 05:29 PM

Goddamn, I hate Venom so very much.  Raimi has my hopes up because of his background in horror films, and because the hospital scene with Doc Ock was so fucking creepy...if he "does" Venom like that, I'll be all for it.  And I love the casting of Topher Grace as Eddie Brock.  I'd much rather see Venom be a true doppelganger of Peter AND Spider-Man...it just drives home why he'd hate and be jealous of the guy so much.  Making him a randomly 'roided-out newspaper photographer makes zero sense, and serves no purpose.  Venom doesn't have to be huge...his real danger should be in what he knows.

MadMatt

06-29-2006, 05:39 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  HBox wrote: Wait, let me get this straight. Blonde Kirsten Dunst has to dye her hair red to play Mary Jane, and red head Bryce Dallas Howard has to dye her hair blonde to play Gwen Stacy? I'm reminded of that old Brian Regan bit where two trucks carrying logs cross each other going opposite ways on a highway. "If they need a red head over there, and they need blonde over there................. I don't understand it." Would "Cup of Dirt" be an accurate description for X-Men 3?I don't know about dirt, but something similarly colored...

HBox

07-23-2006, 10:52 AM

Tenbatsuzen

07-23-2006, 10:57 AM

From how the footage at Comic-Con was described, and the looks of the poster it sounds like Brock goes through an American Werewolf in London style transformation changing into Venom. In the comics, Venom's "eyes" and "teeth" were a part of the symbiote, not of brock.  From the looks of the poster, it's a very different interpretation.

Furtherman

11-09-2006, 07:51 AM

Tonight:"Spider-Man 3" will receive a TV and online blitz Thursday night when Columbia Pictures unveils a 2-1/2-minute trailer at 10 p.m. in a "road block" across Viacom's online brands and several TV channels, including the CBS network -- six months before the film's May 4 premiere.<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/09/film.spiderman.reut/index.html" target="_blank">Story</a>

ralphbxny

11-09-2006, 11:57 AM

Lookin forward to this. I saw them shooting it down in lower manhattan.

HBox

05-04-2007, 01:20 AM

I saw this tonight. I'll just say this for now: the last 20 minutes of this film are BAD. So bad. It's on the level of a theme park ride. Like Escape From Dinosaur Island at Great Adventure or something like that. The effects are bad, the acting is atrocious, the editing is amateur and what happens is monumentally stupid.

But I did actually enjoy this film. For all its flaws, and there are a ton, I still liked it. In fact I liked it more than I think I should have.

JustJon

05-04-2007, 06:35 AM

I'll see it Sunday.

cougarjake13

05-04-2007, 01:48 PM

im also going sunday while most of the religious folk are in church

HBox

05-04-2007, 03:20 PM

The short version of my review: It was OK. I enjoyed despite it being a deeply flawed film. It's probably my favorite of the series. I didn't like 2 and 1 didn't age well at all IMO. I'll put my more detailed thoughts under spoilers:

They completely wasted Venom. They completely wasted the black suit. And they pretty much wasted the Sandman.

First the black suit. They didn't explore it at all. It was basically used as a way to make Parker let the whole Spiderman thing go to his head. It didn't make him stronger, it just made him an asshole. It seems pretty obvious to me that the only reason the black suit was used was to make Parker get really egotistical without it being totally his own fault. Disappointing.

Now Sandman. He could have carried his own film. This film should have been his own. They probably could have got by with him and Green Goblin 2 being a side plot. But there was so much going on that Sandman gets lost. And he's the villian who gets the most screen time. They barely touched on his back story, only just enough to make him sympathetic. Why is he still robbing banks? Why the hell does he want Spiderman dead at the end? And then why does he take a huge 180 just minutes later? He wasn't explored as much as he should have been. And its really diappointing because Thomas Haden Church was so good. It could have been great. But at least they can explore him again in the future since he didn't die.

But the most disappointing thing was Venom. He's on the movie for a bout a half hour. He wasn't explored at all. And then he's killed off. Which is horrible because what there was of him was so good. They nailed the look of Venom. It was absolutely the best comic to screen visual translation of any character ever. And Topher Grace was great. So great that you'll find yourself actually wishing that he was playing Spiderman in the face of Tobey Maguire's lazy performance. Which makes it so bad that they barely explored Brock or Venom. Brock was such a one dimensional narcisistic character. And Venom is just a plot device to create a final showdown. None of the dialogue between the symbiote and Brock. And they'll never be able to fix it because the symbiote and Brock are dead.

Now for what was actually in the film and not what should have been. The Spiderman franchise has always had really cheesy moment and this is no different. It has the corwd cheering on Spiderman, it has that over the top talk with Aunt May where peter decides he's gonne fix everything, etc. Sometimes it works. The Saturday Night Fever thing is great. The J. Jonah Jameson scenes are still the best scenes in the film as usual. But more often they are cringy. Like any scene involving a Spiderman and a crowd in awe/cheering him on. Or the awful dance scene, the worst thing in any of the films.

The effects ranged from great to awful. It was obvious that Sandman is just beyond current technology. Sometimes it passable but more often, like at the end, it's so bad as to take you out of the film. Venom was great, Spiderman was good. Green Goblin 2 was hit and miss.

As for the performances, Grace and Dunst look bored with the whole thing. Grace and Haden Church were great and so was James Franco, surprisingly. The Harry/Peter storyline was the best one in the film despite a bad, cringy scene at the end.

The most unbelievable thing are the way some of the characters act. At the beginning Brock is taking photos of Gwen Stacy hanging off a building. He's dating her but doesn't seem overly concerned. He doesn't seem concerned at all in fact. Perhaps that was done to illustrate how selfish he except he's doing this all in front of her father who he hasn't met and who doesn't seem all that concerned either. And then there's Sandman at the end. Venom offers him the chance to kill Spiderman. He goes along despite the movie trying to portray him as a good guy in an awful situation. And he almost succeeds. But then as soon as Venom dies he doesn't really care about killing Spiderman. In fact it seems he wants to make amends. It all comes down to the fact that they crammed so much into this movie that they couldn't give anything the attention it deserved.

And despite all that I enjoyed it. The action scenes were good. They could have made more of the Sandman Spiderman scenes but they could have made more of a lot. Thety made Bryce Dallas Howard look hot which is an accomplishment. Basically if you go in just looking for a good time and don't try to let these flaws bother you it's a decent way to spend 2 and a half hours. Just turn your brain off at the door.