Global Warming . . . . on Mars?

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Link (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/newsroom/20050920a.html)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Boulders tumbling down a Martian slope left tracks that weren't there
two years ago. New impact craters formed since the 1970s suggest
changes to age-estimating models. And for three Mars summers in a row,
deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk
from the previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress.<br />
&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If more data comes in like this, it
will completely disprove the whole &quot;Global Warming&quot; being caused by
human activity. And will prove what I always suspected. If its getting
hotter, check your thermostat. In this case, the heat source is the
Sun. And the Socialists and Commies will just have to find another
bullshit theory to hide behind. <br />
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[Furtherman]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>If more data comes in like this, it will completely disprove the whole &quot;Global Warming&quot; being caused by human activity. And will prove what I always suspected. If its getting hotter, check your thermostat. In this case, the heat source is the Sun. And the Socialists and Commies will just have to find another bullshit theory to hide behind. </p><p>You cannot compare Earth's biosphere and Mars' biosphere.&nbsp; Mars is a dead (maybe)&nbsp;planet on the surface.&nbsp; Earth's surface, air, and water is in constant change - wiping itself clean every millenia.&nbsp; Earth does give itself it's own global warming - it has many, many times before.&nbsp; It is happening again (it has nothing to do with the sun and it takes thousands of years) and will continue whether we are here or not.&nbsp; </p><p>BUT, we are not helping ourselves, now.&nbsp; The more we change our polluting ways, the better we have a chance on longivity for us and our decendants.&nbsp; As for the natural global warming, maybe we'll adapt, maybe we won't.&nbsp; There's nothing we can do about that.</p><p>We are just a species that will inhabit this planet most likely for a short period of time compared to the planet's age.&nbsp; We might as well try and make the best of it.<br /></p>

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Furtherman is right.&nbsp; It's the supreme arrogance of man that we continually declare that &quot;WE will destroy the PLANET,&quot; when in all likelihood that planet will outlast our dot on the timeline, and then some.&nbsp; The mentality SHOULD be, &quot;hey, let's try to not speed up destroying ourselves.&quot;

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[Snoogans]

human activity still causes it. the climate changes naturally, but not as much as it changes because we fuck with it<br />


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Why the fuck do we care about what Mars does?

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[Sir Okonkwo]

<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p><a href="http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/newsroom/20050920a.html" target="blank">Link</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>Boulders tumbling down a Martian slope left tracks that weren't there two years ago. New impact craters formed since the 1970s suggest changes to age-estimating models. And for three Mars summers in a row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk from the previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress.<br />&nbsp; <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If more data comes in like this, it will completely disprove the whole &quot;Global Warming&quot; being caused by human activity. And will prove what I always suspected. If its getting hotter, check your thermostat. In this case, the heat source is the Sun. And the Socialists and Commies will just have to find another bullshit theory to hide behind. <br /></p><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetBulldogcakes3.jpg" border="0" /> <a href="http://bulldogcakes.tripod.com/index.html" target="blank">My site Bully Baby</a> &quot;A dog recently saved his owner's life, because he had been trained to dial 911. Unfortunately, operators had trouble finding the address 'woof, woof.'&quot;-Norm MacDonald You seem stupid.<br />

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<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p><a href="http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/newsroom/20050920a.html" target="blank">Link</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>Boulders tumbling down a Martian slope left tracks that weren't there two years ago. New impact craters formed since the 1970s suggest changes to age-estimating models. And for three Mars summers in a row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk from the previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress.<br />&nbsp; <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If more data comes in like this, it will completely disprove the whole &quot;Global Warming&quot; being caused by human activity. And will prove what I always suspected. If its getting hotter, check your thermostat. In this case, the heat source is the Sun. And the Socialists and Commies will just have to find another bullshit theory to hide behind. <br /></p><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetBulldogcakes3.jpg" border="0" /> <a href="http://bulldogcakes.tripod.com/index.html" target="blank">My site Bully Baby</a> &quot;A dog recently saved his owner's life, because he had been trained to dial 911. Unfortunately, operators had trouble finding the address 'woof, woof.'&quot;-Norm MacDonald You seem stupid.<br />And your intelligence shines through in your response to him.&nbsp; If you didn't like his statement, rebutt what he had to say.&nbsp; Otherwise, you're just a petty deek who's got nothin'.<br />

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<p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font></p>Why the fuck do we care about what Mars does? <p>&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://www.tradercracks.com/gallery/non-sports/Mars_Attacks/1.jpg" border="0" /></p><p>So history doesn't repeat itself. </p><br />

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[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>If
more data comes in like this, it will completely disprove the whole
&quot;Global Warming&quot; being caused by human activity. And will prove what I
always suspected. If its getting hotter, check your thermostat. In this
case, the heat source is the Sun. And the Socialists and Commies will
just have to find another bullshit theory to hide behind. <br />
<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br />
</p><p>&nbsp;</p>[quote]You seem stupid.<br />And
your intelligence shines through in your response to him. If you didn't
like his statement, rebutt what he had to say. Otherwise, you're just a
petty deek who's got nothin'.<a href="http://thebigsexxxy.blogspot.com/"></a><br />Uhhhmmm waht Moe said. He's teh one that knows them fancy werds. <br />


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'woof, woof.'&quot;-Norm MacDonald<p>&nbsp;</p><blockquote />

<font color=black>This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 9-22-05 @ 8:28 PM</font>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><font size="1" face="verdana" color="black">AKA: scientists</font><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>

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<p><font size="1" face="verdana" color="black">Fuck the liberal bias of the scientific method!</font></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the folks at <font size="2">NASA</font> are. . . . ? </p><p> </p><p>You
might want to read the article before you guys dismiss it. But then
again, environmentalism has always had a &quot;Religious&quot; faith-like
zealotry to it, despite its obvious flaws. So I wouldn't expect anyone
to actually read something that might shake their &quot;faith&quot;. I have
always had serious doubts about the connection between human activity
and Global Warming. Planet Earth is not a fucking fish tank, which is
where these theories were produced. And the 3/4 of the earth surrounded
by oceans abosrb more Co2 than we could ever hope to produce. So when
you can factor out the HEAT SOURCE, call me. <br />
</p><p>And Moe, we all want a clean environment. And if someone could
link burning fossil fuels to rising cancer rates, respiratory diseases,
etc, then I think you have a better case to make. But you also
have to weigh that against the widespread benefits of cheap, abundant
power and what it means to our standard of living and economy. Remember
the 70's? The Misery index? NYC in Bankruptcy? I do. So like most
things in life, its a trade off, one most Americans simply aren't
willing to make. And for us to make huge changes in our economic system
(which is what many environmentalists want, and Kyoto calls for) before
all the facts are in, is utter foolishness. </p><p> </p><p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font> &quot;no country is
going to cut its growth or consumption substantially in the light of a
long-term environmental problem.&quot;<p>&nbsp;</p><p>You know who said that? Not GW Bush.</p><p> </p><p>anyone?</p><p> </p><p>Tony Blair. </p><p> </p><p><a target="blank" href="http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Blair.htm">Some data for the unfaithful</a> </p>

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<blockquote style=""><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px; ">quote:</font><p>&nbsp;. But you also
have to weigh that against the widespread benefits of cheap, abundant
power and what it means to our standard of living and economy.&nbsp;</p>[/quote]<br />Huh? Fossil fuels are abundant? Short sighted much?

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<p>at least you'll be able to get a drink considering there is already a mars bar...</p><p>candy jokes aren't so sweet</p>

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[DarkHippie]

<p>Maybe its a sign that Mars is thawing from its Ice Age (though a few years is hardly a thaw).&nbsp; </p><p>The composition of the Earthian and martian atmospheres are too different to compare.&nbsp; Global Warming is caused by the disintergration of a part of Earth's atmosphere. mars could only be compared if its atmosphere was the same.</p><p>One More:&nbsp; Global warming is only a symptom.&nbsp; The cause is the breakdown of the earth's atmosphere due to pollutants.&nbsp; Other symptoms are: extremes in dangerous weather, loss of coastline, and increased incidence of skin cancer (from exposure to unfiltered radiation).</p>

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<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black"> If its getting hotter, check your thermostat. In this case, the heat source is the Sun.</font></p><p>Wait,
so the space between planets is therefore hot due to the heat of the
sun? wha? call me crazy, but I thought it was the individual atmosphere
of the planets that absorbed the light and the heat of the sun.&nbsp;</p><p>Plus,
the article says that dust in the atmosphere kicked up by meteor impact
is what's causing climate changes, we don't get that much here anymore,
last I checked.</p><p>Using this evidence to &quot;disprove&quot; either global
warming or man's practice of &quot;bleeding the earth dry&quot; contributing to
global warming is a stretch Reed Richards would be proud of...<br />
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Other symptoms are: extremes in dangerous weather, loss of coastline, and increased incidence of skin cancer (from exposure to unfiltered radiation). <p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/Canofsoup15/Sigs/HippieRat.jpg" border="0" />&nbsp;</p><p>Whatever, pinko!&nbsp; All that skin cancer is just from loose moral liberals encouraging people to ignore family values and wear scandalous and revealing clothing!</p>

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<p>All that skin cancer is just from loose moral liberals encouraging people to ignore family values and wear scandalous and revealing clothing!</p><p>The Prophet (peace be upon him) was right!</p><p><img height="180" src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38385000/jpg/_38385417_bahrain-woman-vote-300-ap.jpg" width="315" border="0" /></p>

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<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>&nbsp;</p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font face="verdana" color="#000000" size="1">AKA: scientists</font> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font face="verdana" color="#000000" size="1" /><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font face="verdana" color="#000000" size="1">Fuck the liberal bias of the scientific method!</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And the folks at <font size="2">NASA</font> are. . . . ? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You might want to read the article before you guys dismiss it. But then again, environmentalism has always had a &quot;Religious&quot; faith-like zealotry to it, despite its obvious flaws. So I wouldn't expect anyone to actually read something that might shake their &quot;faith&quot;. I have always had serious doubts about the connection between human activity and Global Warming. Planet Earth is not a fucking fish tank, which is where these theories were produced. And the 3/4 of the earth surrounded by oceans abosrb more Co2 than we could ever hope to produce. So when you can factor out the HEAT SOURCE, call me. </p><p><br />&nbsp;</p><img src="http://home.comcast.net/%7Ebob80/RFnetBulldogcakes3.jpg" border="0" /> <a href="http://bulldogcakes.tripod.com/index.html" target="blank">My site Bully Baby</a> &quot;A dog recently saved his owner's life, because he had been trained to dial 911. Unfortunately, operators had trouble finding the address 'woof, woof.'&quot;-Norm MacDonald <font color="#000000">This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 9-22-05 @ 9:19 PM</font> <p>You must be able to see the glaring contradictions in what you're saying here and how you're saying it. You introduce a small piece of evidence that another planet may be warming and instead of describing the link between that evidence and our own complex climate and the scientific debates about the nature and causes of current changes in it, you simply declare everyone who believes in &quot;global warming&quot; a communist or socialist. </p><p>Then, in defense, you say: &quot;But then again, environmentalism has always had a &quot;Religious&quot; faith-like zealotry to it, despite its obvious flaws. So I wouldn't expect anyone to actually read something that might shake their &quot;faith&quot;. &quot;</p><p>You began this debate by relying on a sweeping pre-emptive ad hominem attack on anyone who might disagree with you, then you accuse the same people of &quot;&quot;Religious&quot; faith-like zealotry&quot;.&quot; </p><p>I think you started this thread not to engage in debate, but to simply throw a piece of evidence in the faces of anyone who disagrees with you.</p><p>While that makes continuing this thread pointless, I haven't really lost faith in you, and I offer simply a <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_33/b3896001_mz001.htm" target="_blank">Businessweek article</a> about how businesses, (which you seem to respect above all other entities), think about and are dealing with the issue. At the very least it's evidence that the issue isn't as black-and-white / smart people-vs-commies as you're presenting it.</p>

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<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You might want to read the article before you guys dismiss it. But then again, environmentalism has always had a &quot;Religious&quot; faith-like zealotry to it, despite its obvious flaws. So I wouldn't expect anyone to actually read something that might shake their &quot;faith&quot;. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br />Wow.&nbsp; You obviously were bitten by a tree at some point in your life.&nbsp; Maybe insulted by a shrub?</p>

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I think the mass of a planet causes gravity...not the spin..</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Fancy people know the spin has something to do with it&nbsp;</p>

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