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Bulldogcakes
10-06-2005, 05:37 PM
<p><a target="blank" href=""></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp; Link (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2cbs.htm)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><font size="1" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><strong><strong>
In the book, &ldquo;My FBI,&rdquo; he writes, &ldquo;The problem was with Bill Clinton --
the scandals and the rumored scandals, the incubating ones and the
dying ones never ended. Whatever moral compass the president was
consulting was leading him in the wrong direction. His closets were
full of skeletons just waiting to burst out.&rdquo;<br /><br />
The director sought to distance himself from Clinton because of
Whitewater, refusing a White House pass that would have enabled him to
enter the building without signing in. This irked Clinton. &ldquo;I wanted
all my visits to be official,&rdquo; says Freeh. &ldquo;When I sent the pass back
with a note, I had no idea it would antagonize the president,&rdquo; he tells
Wallace.<br /><br />
Returning the pass was only the start of the rift. Later, relations got
so bad that President Clinton reportedly began referring to Freeh as
&ldquo;that F&hellip;ing Freeh.&rdquo; Says Freeh, &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t know how they referred to me
and I really didn&rsquo;t care,&rdquo; he says. &ldquo;My role and my obligation was to
conduct criminal investigations. He, unfortunately for the country and
unfortunately for him, happened to be the subject of that
investigation,&rdquo; Freeh says.
<br /><br /> In another revelation, Freeh says the former president let
down the American people and the families of victims of the Khobar
Towers terror attack in Saudi Arabia. After promising to bring to
justice those responsible for the bombing that killed 19 and injured
hundreds, Freeh says Clinton refused to personally ask Saudi Crown
Prince Abdullah to allow the FBI to question bombing suspects the
kingdom had in custody &ndash; the only way the bureau could secure the
interviews, according to Freeh. Freeh writes in the book, &ldquo;Bill Clinton
raised the subject only to tell the crown prince that he understood the
Saudis&rsquo; reluctance to cooperate and then he hit Abdullah up for a
contribution to the Clinton Presidential Library.&rdquo; Says Freeh, &ldquo;That&rsquo;s
a fact that I am reporting.&rdquo; </strong></strong></font> <p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;" /><p>&nbsp;</p>

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HBox
10-06-2005, 05:45 PM
Yeah, Richard Clarke wrote some shitty things about
Freeh in his book and then pretty much predicted he would wirte a book
like this in one of his interviews. Does the FBI even have any
jurisdiction over an attack like that on foreign soil? I honestly don't
know. What agency is supposed to handle stuff like that?<br />


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TheMojoPin
10-06-2005, 09:00 PM
CIA, DOD, State Dept..

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Yerdaddy
10-10-2005, 09:59 AM
FBI does run cooperative investigations overseas. For example they were the ones denied access to the investigation in Indonesia of the murder of American schoolteachers for the Freeport gold mine by Indonesian special forces. They are also the ones being denied access to A.Q. Khan, the &quot;father of the islamic bomb&quot; in&nbsp;Pakistan, and who sold nuclear supplies and technology to North Korea, Lybia, Iran, and probably others.

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TheMojoPin
10-10-2005, 10:21 AM
Yeah, but those other angencies are the &quot;primaries&quot; in such matters over the FBI 9 times out of 10.

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LiquidCourage
10-12-2005, 09:30 PM
Will these people ever shut the fuck up about Clinton?

Furtherman
10-13-2005, 08:41 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>Will these people ever shut the fuck up about Clinton? <p><br />Seriously.&nbsp; Everything that is published&nbsp;about how&nbsp;&quot;immoral&quot; Clinton was should automaticaly be placed on the No Shit&nbsp;Sherlock shelf at the library.&nbsp; Everyone knows Clinton loved to party.&nbsp; Hell, our whole country partied under Clinton.</p><p>Now - a few years from now - I cannot wait until the dirt comes out on Bush on what a moron he is, because it's ashame that there are just enough people out there who can't see it.</p><img src="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/randomizer/random.php?uid=7" border="0" />

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high fly
10-19-2005, 07:15 AM
<p>Poor Louis Freeh is trying to salvage an unsalvageable reputation after the worst run an FBI director has ever had.</p><p>There was his boys getting their asses kicked in Waco, </p><p>the bungled investigation into the 1996 Olympics bombing, </p><p>the screw-ups with the evidence in the Oklahoma City bombing case, </p><p>the Wen Ho Li fiasco, </p><p>the failure to investigate reports from the Kansas City field office about terrorists taking flight lesons,</p><p>&nbsp;the diversion of the New York Joint Terrorism Task Force from terrorism investigations to gang cases,</p><p>the failure to be proactive in investigating terrorists in America, </p><p>the failure to&nbsp;notice high-living agent Robert Hansen who was a spy.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And now here comes Louis Freeh telling us about what was said at a meeting he did not attend.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oh, and Bulldog, I'm sure you'll be glad to know that when the Clinton administration tried to give the FBI more authority to use wiretaps in terrorism cases, it was opposed by Senator Ashcroft, when the Clinton administration tried to sanction banks doing business with terrorists, preventing them from operating in the U.S., the measure was shot down by one Senator Phil Gramm of Texas, tighter border controls to keep terrorists out as well as a requirement to embed taggants into explosives were also opposed by Republicans in 1995-1996 when the Clinton administration was trying to get a major counterterrorism bill passed. Republicans did all they could to delay and water down what eventually was passed as the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

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JimBeam
10-19-2005, 07:49 AM
<p>I believe that if an American citizen is murdered anywhere that the FBI can investigate.</p><p>Now whether or not they can extradir people would come down to local law.</p><p>They were involved in the Natalie Holloway search.</p><p>The CIA is not a law enforcement agency so they may provide details and survailence but I'm pretty sure the FBI would handle any legalities.</p>

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DowntownRazr
10-19-2005, 08:57 AM
<p>Freeh has always been a lily livered scumbag.</p><p>He's trying to deflect attention from his responsibility for 9/11.&nbsp; Scum.</p>

Tall_James
10-19-2005, 09:34 AM
<p>He's trying to deflect attention from his responsibility for 9/11.</p><p>Huh?</p>

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10-19-2005, 05:39 PM
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A.J.
10-19-2005, 11:15 PM
<p>The CIA is not a law enforcement agency so they may provide details and survailence but I'm pretty sure the FBI would handle any legalities.</p><p>As Mojo said in another thread, the CIA is the lead agency overseas but FBI can conduct investigations affecting Americans abroad.&nbsp; The CIA can be a souce of information as well as FBI's foreign counterparts.</p>

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spoon
10-20-2005, 01:46 AM
Freeh was on The Daily Show last night and I don't think he smiled once.&nbsp; He made it sound like he wasn't and isn't out to bury Clinton.&nbsp; The interview wasn't that tough on him, but in fact more based on the lack of communication bt agencies, many that still exist today.&nbsp; He did tell a pretty funny story on a mob boss, his dogs and how they took him down.&nbsp; Overall, I hated this man less than I thought I would after the appearence based on what I already knew of him.&nbsp; Oh well, I still hate BullDogCakes as much or even more after watching it though.&nbsp; Why?

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high fly
10-20-2005, 03:03 PM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>&nbsp;</p><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>The CIA is not a law enforcement agency so they may provide details and survailence but I'm pretty sure the FBI would handle any legalities. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>As Mojo said in another thread, the CIA is the lead agency overseas but FBI can conduct investigations affecting Americans abroad.&nbsp; The CIA can be a souce of information as well as FBI's foreign counterparts.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="2">Of course you are correct, AJ.</font></p><p><font size="2">The FBI maintains offices in many foreign countries, and when it comes to counterterrorism, they have personnel from the other agency serving with their own.</font></p><p><font size="2">During the Clinton administration, the CIA quietly conducted many &quot;arrests&quot; and rendered dozens of terrorists to other countries. Little known is the fact that the CIA and Egypt conducted a large scale such program, seizing terrorists from Albania across the Levant to Azerbaijan.</font></p><p><font size="2">When we got Ramzi Yousef and Mir Aimal Kansi in Pakistan, FBI agents were in on the operation and the rendering of those two to the U.S. to stand trial.</font></p><p><font size="2">At that time, Freeh gave low priority to counterterrorism, and was only reractive, rather than proactive, in investigations. FBI field offices needed to show arrest stats and merely investigating or penetrating terrorist groups generated no stats to justify budget increases. Freeh and senior FBI officials repeatedly reassigned counterterrorism agents in the New York JTTF to working street gang cases.</font></p><p><font size="2">The Clinton administration repeatedly tried to get Freeh to get off his ass and investigate terrorists, but Freeh ignored them. They tried to get the FBI to cooperate more with the CIA in sharing information and again, Freeh was stubborn in giving as little as possible.</font></p><p><font size="2">Clinton wanted to fire Freeh for being so dilatory about terrorism, but because of the endless investigations that went nowhere, it would have been like Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre.</font></p><p><font size="2">After Freeh left, during the Bush administration, a budget increase for counterterrorism was requested and denied by Attorney General Ashcroft on Sept. 10, 2001.</font></p><font size="2" /><font size="2"><p><font size="2"><font size="2" /><font size="2"><p><br /></p>&quot; ...and they ask me why I drink&quot; <img src="http://64.177.177.182/katylina/highflysig.jpg" border="0" /> Big ups to sex bomb baby Katylina (LHOOQ) for the sig!</font></font></p></font>

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A.J.
10-20-2005, 11:03 PM
<p><font size="2">The Clinton administration repeatedly tried to get Freeh to get off his ass and investigate terrorists, but Freeh ignored them. They tried to get the FBI to cooperate more with the CIA in sharing information and again, Freeh was stubborn in giving as little as possible.</font></p><p>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the problem here was that Freeh was sticking the to&nbsp;law -- that at the time the FBI could not investigate terrorism unless it had a direct U.S. nexus. And, information-sharing wasn't a consideration.&nbsp;&nbsp;This was &quot;the wall&quot; that legally prohibited FBI from getting involved in what was then strictly the CIA's purview.</p><p>No?</p>

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high fly
10-24-2005, 03:29 PM
<p><font size="2">No.</font></p><p><font size="2">The FBI had a counterterrorism division, as well as special agents on the Joint Terrorism Task Force in New York that were on to the terrorists who assassinated Meir Kahane in New York in the early 90s and carried out the 1993 WTC bombing and plotted the &quot;Landmarks&quot; bombing plot in New York not long afterward.</font></p><p><font size="2">During his tenure, counterterrorism was not a top priority for Freeh, and he took agents working in that field off of investigations and put them on street gang cases. Freeh refused to be proactive with counterterrorism, but was reactive. Under Freeh, an outstanding informant who had penetrated the cell of the &quot;Blind Sheikh&quot; Omar Abdel Rahman was cut loose even though he was providing topnotch intelligence on the terror cell in New York which attacked the WTC. The reason why was because the source refused to wear a wire and testify in court against the terrorists.</font></p><p><font size="2">Peter Lance has written two fine books about bungled FBI investigations into those NYC terrorists, I believe one is called <em>1000 years for Revenge</em>. You'll want to see how agents Anticev and Napoli were constantly stymied by FBI bureaucrats as they tried to investigate the terrorists.&nbsp;Another good book which covers Freeh's FBI and counterterrorism in the 90s in a bit less detail is Benjamin and Simon's <em>The Sacred Age of Terror </em>(or is it <em>Sacred age of Terror?</em> I get them confused). </font></p><p><font size="2" /></p><p><font size="2">The &quot;wall&quot; was a construct that came out of the investigations by the Church Committee and others into the abuse of CIA resources by the Nixon administration, domestic spying for political purposes, 'mail covers,&quot; assassintaions and so forth. It set a wall betwwen the domestic operations of the CIA as well as foreign investigations by the FBI and domestic cases within the FBI. Though right wing pundits have tried to pin the &quot;wall&quot; on Jamie gorelick, it was in place since the 1970s and she, in fact, tried to loosen restrictions on information-sharing.</font></p><p><font size="2" /></p>

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Bulldogcakes
10-24-2005, 04:08 PM
<p>&nbsp;</p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font><p><font size="2">No.</font></p><p><font size="2">The
FBI had a counterterrorism division, as well as special agents on the
Joint Terrorism Task Force in New York that were on to the terrorists
who assassinated Meir Kahane in New York in the early 90s and carried
out the 1993 WTC bombing and plotted the &quot;Landmarks&quot; bombing plot in
New York not long afterward.</font></p><p><font size="2">During his
tenure, counterterrorism was not a top priority for Freeh, and he took
agents working in that field off of investigations and put them on
street gang cases. Freeh refused to be proactive with counterterrorism,
but was reactive. Under Freeh, an outstanding informant who had
penetrated the cell of the &quot;Blind Sheikh&quot; Omar Abdel Rahman was cut
loose even though he was providing topnotch intelligence on the terror
cell in New York which attacked the WTC. The reason why was because the
source refused to wear a wire and testify in court against the
terrorists.</font></p><p><font size="2">Peter Lance has written two fine books about bungled FBI investigations into those NYC terrorists, I believe one is called <em>1000 years for Revenge</em>.
You'll want to see how agents Anticev and Napoli were constantly
stymied by FBI bureaucrats as they tried to investigate the terrorists.
Another good book which covers Freeh's FBI and counterterrorism in the
90s in a bit less detail is Benjamin and Simon's <em>The Sacred Age of Terror </em>(or is it <em>Sacred age of Terror?</em> I get them confused). </font></p><p><font size="2" /></p><p><font size="2"><font size="2">The
&quot;wall&quot; was a construct that came out of the investigations by the
Church Committee and others into the abuse of CIA resources by the
Nixon administration, domestic spying for political purposes, 'mail
covers,&quot; assassintaions and so forth. It set a wall betwwen the
domestic operations of the CIA as well as foreign investigations by the
FBI and domestic cases within the FBI. Though right wing pundits have
tried to pin the &quot;wall&quot; on Jamie gorelick, it was in place since the
1970s and she, in fact, tried to loosen restrictions on
information-sharing.</font></font></p><p><font size="2"><font size="2" /></font></p>

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spoon
10-24-2005, 11:20 PM
<p>Yah, good point stupid (BDC).&nbsp; Nice use of the word now as well.</p><p>Hey High Fly, what is it that you do?&nbsp; Your always quite informed on topics like this and other political areas.&nbsp; Just wondering why that is?&nbsp; You've made many great points and seem to have an uncanny knowledge of these topics.</p>

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