Impact Wrestling Discussion

[cougarjake13]

Too bad AJ is not stalking his wife ala Kurt with Sharmell!

PLEASE ORIGINAL STORYLINES in TNA!

yeh its so bad theyre doing 2 love triangle storylines

[Chimee]

I'd throw in Booker, Joe, and Nash as a third love triangle.

[cougarjake13]

I'd throw in Booker, Joe, and Nash as a third love triangle.


yeh

im not into the world x cup thing kinda boring

[Chimee]

I'd like it a lot better if TNA made it seem at all important. Instead it's just thrown out there like every other X-Division match and it's just an excuse for people to chant "TNA" as the commentators are more focused on Kurt Angle and they almost always cut away from the match to some commotion in the back. Maybe if they set it up properly, let the guys go out there and wrestle without any other weird shit involved, it would be a great thing. Now TNA has made it like everything else they do, convoluted rules that are secondary to whatever is going on with Kurt Angle.

[RF Godfather]

Is there any way TNA could sign Kenta Kobashi for like 1 match and face Samoa Joe or Kurt Angle or maybe a 3 way? That could be match of the decade for TNA right there!

BTW, anyone could hook me up with the legendary TNA 2005 match of Samoa Joe and Kenta Kobashi in ROH that was named greatest match in ROH history? I sooo want to see it. Preferably in a WMV format?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

It's online on DailyMotion.com

[BokeATong]

Jay Lethal and Petey Williams are the best in TNA right now in my opinion.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

And their gimmicks are imitating other wrestlers. I think we've gotten to know them well enough for them to get past the impersonation gimmicks and for them to move on to being themselves. They're popular enough.

[TiknoZero]

And their gimmicks are imitating other wrestlers. I think we've gotten to know them well enough for them to get past the impersonation gimmicks and for them to move on to being themselves. They're popular enough.

I'll give that a "Shell YEAH" :P

Seriously though, I think it was Paul Heyman who said a while ago (on O&A or R&F IIRC) that they need to find their thing to make them stand out, and he didn't mean a 6-sided ring.

At least their title picture is growing from Kurt Angle & Christian. It seemed like Kurt had a forever (or maybe is was the Angle Alliance storyline that I just got sick of :P ). I like Samoa Joe, A.J. Styles, LAX, & a few others. They do need some serious work though.

Is Russo still writing for them?

[BokeATong]

And their gimmicks are imitating other wrestlers. I think we've gotten to know them well enough for them to get past the impersonation gimmicks and for them to move on to being themselves. They're popular enough.

It is hack what they're doing, but, I really do enjoy the Black Machismo gimmick. I think Lethal should get a bigger push.

Another thing about TNA is that their women's division is actually exciting... the "Divas" don't even come close to the "Knockouts." ODB is sick with it.

[cougarjake13]

And their gimmicks are imitating other wrestlers. I think we've gotten to know them well enough for them to get past the impersonation gimmicks and for them to move on to being themselves. They're popular enough.

they were pretty popular as themselves before the imitations

[cougarjake13]

I'll give that a "Shell YEAH" :P

Seriously though, I think it was Paul Heyman who said a while ago (on O&A or R&F IIRC) that they need to find their thing to make them stand out, and he didn't mean a 6-sided ring.

At least their title picture is growing from Kurt Angle & Christian. It seemed like Kurt had a forever (or maybe is was the Angle Alliance storyline that I just got sick of :P ). I like Samoa Joe, A.J. Styles, LAX, & a few others. They do need some serious work though.

Is Russo still writing for them?


since jarrett went away its pretty much been christian and angle for the last 2 years with a transitional abyss title reign twice

[SpicyMcHaggis]

TNA is in dire need of an identity. They need to have something distinctive that sets them apart from everyone else. The answer is the X-Division but they barely do anything with it as is.

[cougarjake13]

man why does tna keep doing this #1 contender steals the belt and doesnt give it back to the champ until the champ wins a match to get his belt back ???


this is like the 4th time theyve done it in my recent memory


i cant recall the last time wwe did it


i dont like the gimmick its stupid

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Anyone gonna bother watching it tonight?

[cougarjake13]

Anyone gonna bother watching it tonight?

not unless its free

[Chimee]

not unless its free

That's why I'll be watching it tomorrow.

[cougarjake13]

heres what happened so far



- The Pay-Per-View kicked off with a live performance by Filthee, Ice-T and Grandmaster Caz

- "Maple Leaf Muscle" Petey Williams retained the X Championship over Consequences Creed after beating him with the Canadian Destroyer following outside interference by Sheik Abdul Bashir. After the bout, Bashir denounced Creed and the United States.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Easy registration, free, and they always have a good stream.

www.wrestling-tv.net

[cougarjake13]

didnt see beer money winning the tag belts


- The team of Taylor Wilde, ODB and Gail Kim defeated Awesome Kong and The Beautiful People when Taylor beat Angelina Love with a roll up

- Beer Money became the new TNA World Tag Team Champions after defeating LAX. Homicide attempted to set up James Storm for the Gringo Killer, but Robert Roode nailed Homicide with a beer bottle in the face - allowing Storm to get the pin and win the gold!

[SpicyMcHaggis]

The camera operators on this PPV have been horrible. So many missed spots.

[Chimee]

didnt see beer money winning the tag belts

That's probably because they've lost the majority of their matches since becoming a team.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

TNA is ass backwards. I can't believe I actually said these guys had potential when it's clear that they have not taken the ball and run with it. Out with the old and in with new, I say. Hire someone to shake things up over there and really turn it around.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

but vince russo created wrestling. he knows that people want to see retreads of 1980's wwf and wcw

[cougarjake13]

but vince russo created wrestling. he knows that people want to see retreads of 1980's wwf and wcw

no you're wrong he sthinks its still the 80's

[cougarjake13]

looks like jeff jarrett is returning

[SpicyMcHaggis]

You know I always thought that the MCMG reminded me of Kendrick and London, and now it seems they're really emulating them to the point where they're even coming out with masks on their faces. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but these are the kind of guys who didn't seem like they need a lot of fancy gear to get noticed.

[MagillaGorillaz]

You know I always thought that the MCMG reminded me of Kendrick and London, and now it seems they're really emulating them to the point where they're even coming out with masks on their faces. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but these are the kind of guys who didn't seem like they need a lot of fancy gear to get noticed.

You know they should put these two guys together with someone . . . someone like Kevin Nash. Yeah. I can see it now. They can carry around a video camera and tape every thing Nash does.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

just popped on for a minute and i hate matt morgan's cheap imitation of goldberg and brock lesner. he stole brocks little dance and his back tat i just don't like tna

[Chimee]

Word is that Mick Foley has signed with TNA and is going to start making appearances as soon as he's contractually able to.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Word is that Mick Foley has signed with TNA and is going to start making appearances as soon as he's contractually able to.

the only thing lard ass should do is kick don west out that chair then i might tune in on a regular basis. but probably not

[SpicyMcHaggis]

God I hope he replaces Don West. PLEASE!

[cougarjake13]

well that was a short lived stint as sd! announcer

[CYYYFYYY]

I just fear that they bring him back as a wreslter and start a Foley vs Nash Feud

[MIKEYDAKEN]

I just fear that they bring him back as a wreslter and start a Foley vs Nash Feud

can't wait for that botched jackknife.

[cougarjake13]

can't wait for that botched jackknife.

maybe theyll sign flair and have a triple threat

[cougarjake13]

when did new york from flavor flav start wrestling ??

[MIKEYDAKEN]

do you guys think mohommed hassan is pissed davari just stole his wwe gimmick outright

[cougarjake13]

do you guys think mohommed hassan is pissed davari just stole his wwe gimmick outright

yeh he's pretty much hassans character, didnt realize it til you mentioned it



i think he'd be more pissed that davari got to stick around in the wwe for a few years while he got kicked to the curb

[Chimee]

Anyone else notice his entrance starts off with what sounds like a plane flying followed by an explosion?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

yeh he's pretty much hassans character, didnt realize it til you mentioned it



i think he'd be more pissed that davari got to stick around in the wwe for a few years while he got kicked to the curb

i thought he quit on his own he was pissed about the blatant stereo typing and the death threats. thats why davari got stuck with the punjabi retard

[MIKEYDAKEN]

I HATE TNA. i hope foley becomes abyss's therapist that would be a good angle.

[cougarjake13]

Anyone else notice his entrance starts off with what sounds like a plane flying followed by an explosion?



yeh heard the plane part but missed the explosion part

if true thats fucked

[cougarjake13]

karens angle .... worst wrestling interview show ever

[cougarjake13]

i thought he quit on his own he was pissed about the blatant stereo typing and the death threats. thats why davari got stuck with the punjabi retard



dont think he quit, i remember the wwe taking him out of the picture and then releasing him

[Chimee]

yeh heard the plane part but missed the explosion part

if true thats fucked

It wasn't a standalone thing, it was the kickoff to the music starting.

[cougarjake13]

during the booker t interview segment a quick flash popped on the screen


thanks to dvr , i rewinded and paused


it said

http://whoissuicide.com/

[Chimee]

Yeah, they're trying a viral campaign. Suicide is your character's name in the videogame. He pisses Homicide off and they kick the shit out of him and send him to Tijuana and the story revolves around his revenge.

And it's probably going to be Kaz wearing a mask.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

2 things how the fuck is JJ a 12 time champ and another gimmick match yaaaaaaaaaaaay. i'm still waiting for the return of the judy bagwell on a pole match when russo brings that back they will have me every week. also unrelated but greg helms is a lucky motherfucker

[MIKEYDAKEN]

yay new version of sting bitter old guy alot cooler than red and black sting and sting by the way booker t is never gonna be a legend i would put andy kaufman ahead of the bookerman

[cougarjake13]

2 things how the fuck is JJ a 12 time champ and another gimmick match yaaaaaaaaaaaay. i'm still waiting for the return of the judy bagwell on a pole match when russo brings that back they will have me every week. also unrelated but greg helms is a lucky motherfucker




heres all his titles


CWA (Memphis) International Tag Team titles (2);
Southern Tag Team titles (4);
NWA Mid-America title (5);
World Class Light-Heavyweight title (2);
CWA (Memphis) Heavyweight title;
WCWA Tag Team titles (3);
CWA (Memphis) Tennessee Tag Team titles;
USWA Tag Team titles (14);
USWA Southern Heavyweight title (9);
USWA Western States Tag Team titles;
USWA Unified World title (3);

WWF Intercontinental title (6);
PCW (Pennsylvania) United States title;
WCW United States Heavyweight title (2);
NWA North American title;
WWF Tag Team titles;
WWF European title;
WCW World title (4);
WWA Heavyweight title (2);
NWA World Heavyweight title defeating Ron Killings (November 20, 2002);
NWA World Heavyweight title defeating AJ Styles (October 22, 2003);
NWA World Heavyweight title defeating Ron Killings (June 2, 2004);
NWA Cyberspace title defeating Slyck Wagner Brown (April 30, 2005);
NWA World Heavyweight title defeating Raven (September 15, 2005);
(Australia) World Series Wrestling Heavyweight title defeating Rhino (October 8, 2005);
NWA World Heavyweight title defeating Rhino (November 3, 2005);
NWA World Heavyweight title by winning a King of the Mountain match (June 18, 2006);




why is greg helms lucky ??

[MIKEYDAKEN]

helms is dating velvet sky that is why he is lucky

[cougarjake13]

helms is dating velvet sky that is why he is lucky

ahhh gotcha

[SpicyMcHaggis]

From TNAwrestling.com...

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/images/stories/headers/foley.jpg

[cougarjake13]

From TNAwrestling.com...

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/images/stories/headers/foley.jpg

any word yet on whether he's there to wrestle or announce ??

[SpicyMcHaggis]

They must have changed where the imaged is hosted. Here's the teaser pic they have on their website:

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/images/stories/headers/haveaniceday.jpg

[Chimee]

The original one was "foley.jpg". I guess they figured it revealed too much and changed it.

[cougarjake13]

The original one was "foley.jpg". I guess they figured it revealed too much and changed it.



like anyone is gonna associate that phrase with anyone else in wrestling history???

[SpicyMcHaggis]

So in a recent UK Sun interview, Kurt Angle said that he's trying very hard to get creative to stop a lot of the busyness that happens in their product, like the all too many run ins and complicated gimmick matches. "Wrestling's simple. Let's keep it that way," was the gist of his message. Frankly I agree and I think that maybe he comes across as too strong to management and that's why they don't agree with him.

However, I find it completely ignorant of TNA management and creative to completely humiliate Angle and take the interview into the Jarrett/Angle storyline on Impact. They show some footage of him cursing out McMahon apparently which Angle is really obviously regretful of in case the whole TNA thing doesn't work out. Of course Angle fired back with what nearly appears to be a shoot comment towards Jarrett losing his wife and another one at Don West's commentary.

Here's what I don't get. Angle is right. TNA has way too many complicated gimmick matches and far too many bad finishes in their high profile matches. Why turn it into a negative when I'm sure that other wrestlers in TNA feel the same way? It just shows me that TNA's thinking is ass backwards. Here they have a high profile roster of some of the greatest wrestlers and some of the top talent in the world and they're not doing a damn thing about it to their advantage.

[conman823]

So in a recent UK Sun interview, Kurt Angle said that he's trying very hard to get creative to stop a lot of the busyness that happens in their product, like the all too many run ins and complicated gimmick matches. "Wrestling's simple. Let's keep it that way," was the gist of his message. Frankly I agree and I think that maybe he comes across as too strong to management and that's why they don't agree with him.

However, I find it completely ignorant of TNA management and creative to completely humiliate Angle and take the interview into the Jarrett/Angle storyline on Impact. They show some footage of him cursing out McMahon apparently which Angle is really obviously regretful of in case the whole TNA thing doesn't work out. Of course Angle fired back with what nearly appears to be a shoot comment towards Jarrett losing his wife and another one at Don West's commentary.

Here's what I don't get. Angle is right. TNA has way too many complicated gimmick matches and far too many bad finishes in their high profile matches. Why turn it into a negative when I'm sure that other wrestlers in TNA feel the same way? It just shows me that TNA's thinking is ass backwards. Here they have a high profile roster of some of the greatest wrestlers and some of the top talent in the world and they're not doing a damn thing about it to their advantage.

Lately my support of TNA has risen. Mostly due to the fact that I view WWE as a sinking ship.

Angle IS RIGHT! I think though we have another good ol'boys club in TNA. Russo has got to go (The fans let him know this at almost every PPV). They need NEW writers who have a vision of the business, not the same old shit. Also look at who lingers around TNA with NO GIMMICK to speak of. Kyp James, Road Dog, Abyss, all these guys should be gone. Also we are now seening a pattern of taking in WWE's garbage which has to stop. Foley should either have a short run or replace Don West in commentary.

All of this has a lot to do with Double JJ and HIS friends in the business. His worked shoot-rant on Impact really made me laugh though as it was pretty two faced.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I completely agree with Angle, I just don't like the fact that Jarrett decided to go, "Hey, he said some bad things about us, I'm gonna go after him publically on TV." Here's the thing, Jarrett decides to use the bit of news that involved Angle saying he was closer to McMahon then he is to Jarrett and Carter completely leaving out the fact that the other stuff Angle said about the constant run ins, complicated gimmick matches, and no identity to the product.

Jarrett is basically proving Angle's point!

[conman823]

Who knows if this all wasn't a work from the start? If it was then I guess Russo has some good swerves in him left.

Also when Booker T supposedly bitched about the locker room conditions at TNA early on they mocked him with the set he gets now for his promos.

Angle IS a huge star for TNA and if anybody should be taken seriously its him. His statements sound like his trying to make changes for everyone in the locker room, which is a change of pace from the usual selfserving that goes on in the business.

Jeff Jarrett: "Yeah Sting people don't want to step outta the way and give up there SPOT!"

:::Sting points to Russo:::

Jeff Jarrett: "Hey Sting your just here for the payday!"

:::Sting points to the Old Age Outlaws and Mick Foley:::

Jeff Jarrett: "I built this company for guys like Samoa Joe and AJ Styles!"

:::Sting shows footage of Jarrett taking the belt from both of them:::

Well thats how I would write next weeks Impact.

[cougarjake13]

Who knows if this all wasn't a work from the start? If it was then I guess Russo has some good swerves in him left.

Also when Booker T supposedly bitched about the locker room conditions at TNA early on they mocked him with the set he gets now for his promos.

Angle IS a huge star for TNA and if anybody should be taken seriously its him. His statements sound like his trying to make changes for everyone in the locker room, which is a change of pace from the usual selfserving that goes on in the business.

Jeff Jarrett: "Yeah Sting people don't want to step outta the way and give up there SPOT!"

:::Sting points to Russo:::

Jeff Jarrett: "Hey Sting your just here for the payday!"

:::Sting points to the Old Age Outlaws and Mick Foley:::

Jeff Jarrett: "I built this company for guys like Samoa Joe and AJ Styles!"

:::Sting shows footage of Jarrett taking the belt from both of them:::

Well thats how I would write next weeks Impact.


that works for me



they should have a tough enough version for new writers

[SpicyMcHaggis]

You know I thought about, as right as Kurt Angle may be, what an idiotic move to publically say stuff like that about the promotion you work for and are supposed to support and be a team player for. They've got a right to be pissed.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

For those of you who missed it last night, Sting won the TNA World Heavyweight Championship for his third title win since coming to TNA. Mind you, every time that Sting has won the title he's been in the main event of Bound For Glory. In 2006 it was against Jeff Jarrett. In 2007 it was against Kurt Angle. Now, with the help of Kevin Nash, Sting is entering his third title reign within the context of a re-imaged "New Blood" storyline from WCW.

[cougarjake13]

lame

[Don Stugots]

lame

word.

[cougarjake13]

i used to watch every week

i'd dvr it if i couldnt watch

now i dont even look on tna.com to see whats goin on

[conman823]

My first thought of Sting winning it again was lame also, but i figured if you were going to make a pitch for the "younger" Joe clawing back to the title them it MIGHT be OK.

All of Stings reigns have been short thankfully. Whats more distrubing then that was the dirt sheets are saying a Foley v. Angle match will be forthcoming.:huh: How does that further the "new guys"?

Ahhh well.its still better then RAW.

[cougarjake13]

My first thought of Sting winning it again was lame also, but i figured if you were going to make a pitch for the "younger" Joe clawing back to the title them it MIGHT be OK.

All of Stings reigns have been short thankfully. Whats more distrubing then that was the dirt sheets are saying a Foley v. Angle match will be forthcoming.:huh: How does that further the "new guys"?

Ahhh well.its still better then RAW.

i though that angle/ foley match already happened

[SpicyMcHaggis]

This is going to be like the billionth time I've said this in the TNA Impact Discussion thread but...

God freaking dammit Tenay and West, SHUT THE HELL UP!!! Not everything needs to have commentary! If someone's making an entrance, comment on it but don't describe every single action that is going on in the ring! THAT'S NOT COMMENTARY!

[Chimee]

That's not the best venue for an HD debut. Pro wrestling is all about the loud crowds packed to the rafters and that just looks like a bunch of people wandered out of a casino and stumbled upon a wrestling show. Not to mention the fat guy in a wifebeater in the front row.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Totally forgot to mention this:

Kurt Angle
Kevin Nash
Booker T
Sting

THE MAIN EVENT MAFIA

I like the new stable name.

[cougarjake13]

the new stable could be cool


also dont forget the new legends title created by booker t himself


http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1133/84/


http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/images/stories/temp/857433f9b7fdcb32b8748ccaf4cc5dde.jpg

[conman823]

the new stable could be cool


also dont forget the new legends title created by booker t himself


You know back in his country the lion wears that belt.

[conman823]

Totally forgot to mention this:

Kurt Angle
Kevin Nash
Booker T
Sting

THE MAIN EVENT MAFIA

I like the new stable name.

What was up with the whole Sting leaving the scene like "Fuck it!"? I laughed thinking I wonder if he needed to take a shit bad or something cause even Angle was like :huh:

[SpicyMcHaggis]

See, the accent can be overkill sometimes, but when he was getting pissed off at Christian and started going back to his regular voice, it was funny. It's basically a King Booker gimmick but if Booker T was Prince Nana from ROH.

[cougarjake13]

See, the accent can be overkill sometimes, but when he was getting pissed off at Christian and started going back to his regular voice, it was funny. It's basically a King Booker gimmick but if Booker T was Prince Nana from ROH.

he seems to go and forth with the accent for no reason


he did it in wwe also as king booker

[SpicyMcHaggis]

So here are some pics of the new TNA Impact set:

http://www.prowrestlingscoops.com/impactset/impact1.jpg

http://www.prowrestlingscoops.com/impactset/impact2.jpg

There are still two tunnels but one ramp, the other side was removed and filled in with seats to now fit about 1,300 people. Also, here's a spoiler for this Thursday:

Scott Steiner returned and joined the Main Event Mafia.

[cougarjake13]

Also, here's a spoiler for this Thursday:

Scott Steiner returned and joined the Main Event Mafia.


that was inevitable


so whats mick foley doing ??

wrestling, mgr, what ?

[cougarjake13]

you might as well call the main event mafia

the wcw hasbeens, cept for angle

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Watching the PPV, Samoa Joe looks like he's just beating up an old man in his match with Nash.

[cougarjake13]

during the main event mafias attempt to induct christian cage into the mafia


kurt angle cut a promo saying that cage was not gonna sign a new tna contract and that he was going to sign with the wwe



any truth to that ??

[Don Stugots]

internet is a buzz over it but not official yet. we shall see. i hope so, i would love to see him and Edge tag up and then feud.

[conman823]

internet is a buzz over it but not official yet. we shall see. i hope so, i would love to see him and Edge tag up and then feud.

Yeah he should def leave TNA. HHH, Cena, Orton, Edge......they all need someone new to count the lights for them. :laugh:

[NITRON]

tomko could do that. he isn't a main eventer. perhaps vince will see what tna did and elevate christian to be a main eventer.

[Mike Kingston]

I can't see Christian going back...and if he does, I can't see Vince doing anything more than he had done in the past with him.

Vince has Christian pegged as mid card which is why he left and you know Vince rarely takes someone back unless its to prove a point. (ie: making Sable do some pseudo lesbian stuff after she refused)

I can only imagine the shit sandwich Kurt Angle is going to have to eat if he decides to go back.

[Dirtbag]

So far I believe the wellness policy isn't a joke, so based on that they wouldn't take Kurt back anyway.

[Mike Kingston]

So far I believe the wellness policy isn't a joke....

Okay then....explain how Lance Cade had painkiller issues to the point that he almost OD'd on an airplane and this wasn't caught.

Or quite simply, explain Batista.

In troubled economic times, Vince has seen fit to do away with testing. He almost had the fed cleaned up...he fired Warrior and Davey Boy....and then he went back on it b/c WCW wouldn't test.

Obviously they are nervous about the future given the double tapings, the ref cuts, and the talent releases...

...I wouldn't be surprised to see less frequent drug testing in the very near future. At the very least no or reduced steroid testing because we all know what Vince thinks draws.

[conman823]

WWE's wellness policy is a complete joke. Yeah some guys got some time out, but as long as it isn't someone who sells millions in merch it really doesn't mater right?

As far as TNA goes the only person who triggers my "Roid Alarm" is Sanjay Dutt. He isn't even HUGE, but its noticable esp if you have seen him like 2 yrs ago.WTF? Watch him next time, we have :

-Balding
-Back acne
-Unrealistic physique for his frame

It drove me to distraction in his last match.

[cougarjake13]

WWE's wellness policy is a complete joke. Yeah some guys got some time out, but as long as it isn't someone who sells millions in merch it really doesn't mater right?

As far as TNA goes the only person who triggers my "Roid Alarm" is Sanjay Dutt. He isn't even HUGE, but its noticable esp if you have seen him like 2 yrs ago.WTF? Watch him next time, we have :

-Balding
-Back acne
-Unrealistic physique for his frame

It drove me to distraction in his last match.

yeh he is completely different size wise now then one they first brought him in


http://www.wrestlingonline.com/Sonjay_Dutt.jpg http://tnawrestlingphotos.com/impact-photos/2008-photos/november/image/650/IMG_5130.jpg

[NYHCmikeX]

Davari looks like he juiced it up something fierce too after he left wwe.

And you cant have a juice discussion without mentioned Big Poppa Pump. (hes in TNA right?)

I dont watch TNA regularly, but there is probably just as many juice heads there as wwe.

[Mike Kingston]

I've heard a lot of discussion that TNA was going to be starting its own Wellness Policy and then they brought back Scott Steiner ....

Talk about mixed messages.

[cougarjake13]

Davari looks like he juiced it up something fierce too after he left wwe.

And you cant have a juice discussion without mentioned Big Poppa Pump. (hes in TNA right?)

I dont watch TNA regularly, but there is probably just as many juice heads there as wwe.

yeh steiner is there, he's part of the main event mafia


yeh davari looks massive compared to the wwe days

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Congrats, TNA. You pulled off a 1.2 rating. Your highest segment? The X-Division six man tag. Now take the fucking hint and go with it.

[Don Stugots]

Congrats, TNA. You pulled off a 1.2 rating. Your highest segment? The X-Division six man tag. Now take the fucking hint and go with it.

never happen. they will show more MEM.

[cougarjake13]

never happen. they will show more MEM.

word is that TNA will change its name to MEM




and is there any doubt that they're trying to make main event mafia the new NWO ??

[TiknoZero]

Is Russo still writing for TNA? I lost track but it seems so.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

What's eventually going to happen is Sting is going to get kicked out of the MEM because he'll see the error of his ways and the egos of the other MEM members will overpower him. He'll reconcile with the Frontline and eventually start his retirement storyline. That's how I see it going down.

[cougarjake13]

What's eventually going to happen is Sting is going to get kicked out of the MEM because he'll see the error of his ways and the egos of the other MEM members will overpower him. He'll reconcile with the Frontline and eventually start his retirement storyline. That's how I see it going down.

if he's gonna retire soon then i def see that happening

[conman823]

word is that TNA will change its name to MEM




and is there any doubt that they're trying to make main event mafia the new NWO ??

In my mind if they book this well it can only HELP TNA in the long run. You market all your "Main Event" guys together to draw in viewers who are sick of WWE's poor programming. They see the old guys fighting the new guys and get into the TNA product as a whole. They you slowly build up to jobbing out the old guys.

The NWO was similar in design except you forget a few historical "issues" that did in the nWo angle.

-Biscoff had a man crush on for Hulk Hogan. "Nobody in the locker room ever drew a dime except Hulk Hogan."
- NWO became if you can't beat them, join them which led it ranks to be out of control. Sting joined!! Sting!! Who was the #1 opponent AGAINST the nWO.
- Hogans creative control led to the whole show being booked around Hollywood Hogan, not the nWo and not even WCW.
- The final failure was you spend 3+ yrs telling fans nWo is the way to go and WCW sucks.....so when the nWo desolved we were left with "those shitty WCW guys".

[Don Stugots]

Tna brought in the guy that will wwe, al snow.

J O B
Squad

[ScottFromGA]

thing I noticed about TNA is they are doing all they can to draw the "Attitude Era" to their side since the WWE has gone TV-PG.


I like grit and adult type programming....but doing it just to do it really lessens the value of it. Plus, its already been done......


but there are things I've noticed about it that really shine above the WWE....the creativeness is there, they have stars that can carry the business UNLIKE the WWE.

[Chimee]

That's been said about TNA for years, they have all the talent in the world and things like X-Division that could make them great, but it's still the same 2 minute X-Division matches and half the locker room running in during the main event.

[cougarjake13]

those who wanted curry man gone and the return of the fallen angel

here ya go




TNA WRESTLING SAYS GOODBYE TO CURRY MAN

On Thursday's "iMPACT!", the "Feast Or Fired" briefcases were opened - revealing the fate for Curry Man and Homicide and Hernandez of The Latin American Xchange.

Homicide earned a shot at the X Division Championship, while Hernandez is in line for a TNA World Heavyweight Championship match! ("Black Machismo" Jay Lethal's briefcase was opened at Final Resolution, revealing his prize of a TNA World Tag Team Title shot).

Unfortunately for Curry Man, he was the superstar who had possession of the "Fired" briefcase, meaning his career in Total Nonstop Action Wrestling is now over (although he didn't quite grasp the concept).

TNA Wrestling would like to take this opportunity to wish Curry Man the best of luck in his future endeavors, which will likely include a return to his homeland of Japan.

[cougarjake13]

also was the debut of suicide


at first i thought maybe christian but after watching him do the moves i dont think it is


then i was thinking maybe one of the wwe release victims

the way he moves though makes me think of billy kidman

[Chimee]

The plans I heard were that it was Kazarian, but he got injured. Now I've seen reports from a bunch of sites that he's recovered in doing the Suicide character. I think it could be good if they actually do something interesting with him and he works on the finisher so that it looks a bit more devastating that just a sunset flip.

The trio of Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, and Samoa Joe should be what the Frontline faction was built around, not Rhino and the Dudleys.

[cougarjake13]

yeh i do kinda see it as kaz

[Mike Kingston]

The trio of Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, and Samoa Joe should be what the Frontline faction was built around, not Rhino and the Dudleys.

Completely agree...unfortunately TNA has so little faith in their own stars. It should be Joe, AJ, Daniels, and MCMG. Rhino shouldn't be a part of this at all.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

TNA dropped the ball with that one. Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, MCMG, LAX, that's a Frontline. You could have had the Dudley's playing the ones that are on the fence because they don't agree with MEM and they don't necessarily have to like the Frontline. Rhino could be the loose cannon that no one really wants a part of and you never know where he's going to end up in the fold.

But they didn't and it's too late.

[shadyrudy]

Was that Tajiri on TNA last night? I couldn't tell because of the paint, but it looked like his mannerisms. Another great addition :clap:

[CYYYFYYY]

Nope that was not Tajarri

[Chimee]

It wasn't Tajiri, it was Akira Raijin.

[Mike Kingston]

It wasn't Tajiri, it was Akira Raijin.

He's kind of a weird acquisition. I saw him wrestle for Chikara and he was solid but I don't think he's going to stand out in the soap opera driven TNA. So why bring him in?

Incidentally, Homicide and Hernandez just re-signed for 3 more years which was a good move. I just can't believe how far they've fallen in terms of stature in the company since Konnan left. At one point, they were easily the hottest act in the company and possibly in the country. Get these guys a friggin manager!

[Dirtbag]

If either company puts Tajiri back on TV I'll start watching wrestling again.

[conman823]

He's kind of a weird acquisition. I saw him wrestle for Chikara and he was solid but I don't think he's going to stand out in the soap opera driven TNA. So why bring him in?

Incidentally, Homicide and Hernandez just re-signed for 3 more years which was a good move. I just can't believe how far they've fallen in terms of stature in the company since Konnan left. At one point, they were easily the hottest act in the company and possibly in the country. Get these guys a friggin manager!

Why the fuck did they take Hector away from them? That could have been the single stupidest move of 2008.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Having Konnan as the mouth piece was definitely one of their strong points. I say bring in a manager who looks like Che Guerrera and have them start a "Revolucion!"

[Hosp]

He's kind of a weird acquisition. I saw him wrestle for Chikara and he was solid but I don't think he's going to stand out in the soap opera driven TNA. So why bring him in?

Incidentally, Homicide and Hernandez just re-signed for 3 more years which was a good move. I just can't believe how far they've fallen in terms of stature in the company since Konnan left. At one point, they were easily the hottest act in the company and possibly in the country. Get these guys a friggin manager!

There was talk of them breaking up the team because they saw big things for Hernandez in the world title picture but they both fought it, to the point of them threatening to not resign.. However the Feast or Fired gimmick is making it look like they went that route anyway. Now would be the time for them to expand if they were to capture the 2 Singles titles. Bring in some Lucha team or possibly the S.A.T. if they're still wrestling.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

The SAT are so gassed up it's not even funny. Pretty embarassing from what I've seen.

[Mike Kingston]

There was talk of them breaking up the team because they saw big things for Hernandez in the world title picture but they both fought it, to the point of them threatening to not resign.. However the Feast or Fired gimmick is making it look like they went that route anyway. Now would be the time for them to expand if they were to capture the 2 Singles titles. Bring in some Lucha team or possibly the S.A.T. if they're still wrestling.

According to Meltzer, they never considered going to the E b/c they knew they'd be split up. They were planning to work indies/Mexico if they left TNA. I'm assuming if they re-signed, those issues must be worked out.

I'm hoping they just make them both singles threats while continuing to tag.

[NITRON]

thing I noticed about TNA is they are doing all they can to draw the "Attitude Era" to their side since the WWE has gone TV-PG.


I like grit and adult type programming....but doing it just to do it really lessens the value of it. Plus, its already been done......


but there are things I've noticed about it that really shine above the WWE....the creativeness is there, they have stars that can carry the business UNLIKE the WWE.


there's been a lot of bleeps in tna programming lately. it feels like overkill.

[Chimee]

There has also been an obsession with saying "balls" on the show.

[cougarjake13]

maybe a subliminal hint that balls mahoney is forthcoming ??

[Mike Kingston]

maybe a subliminal hint that balls mahoney is forthcoming ??

Nah...I'm assuming its their attempt to be "edgy." Well it beats a midget jerking off in a trash can....

[cougarjake13]

Nah...I'm assuming its their attempt to be "edgy." Well it beats a midget jerking off in a trash can....

thats true

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Apparently Kaz reinjured himself so someone else is going to be put under the hood for "Suicide."

[cougarjake13]

Apparently Kaz reinjured himself so someone else is going to be put under the hood for "Suicide."

was it before or after thurs impact ??

[conman823]

Apparently Kaz reinjured himself so someone else is going to be put under the hood for "Suicide."

They should just burn the hood for Suicide. His Thursday night "Impact" went over like a fart in the wind.

[TheEggman]

I thought the whole angle of "let's have suicide go after girls" was pretty cool.

[Chimee]

Apparently Kaz reinjured himself so someone else is going to be put under the hood for "Suicide."

I think L.A.X. did it.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Do you think they'll make that aspect of the game part of the storyline too? Leave it to TNA to make a digital cutscene part of the backstory.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

If anyone else is watching the PPV, does Don West sound like he's got a lisp for some reason?

[conman823]

If anyone else is watching the PPV, does Don West sound like he's got a lisp for some reason?

Late on the uptake, I just watched the Angle/Jarrett match last night on dailymotion.com.

They tore the fucking house down!! Def better then thier first match and I'm looking forward to the 3rd encounter.

I will be watching the "Main Event" when I wake up later. I can't believe it was better then Angle/Jarrett though.

Anytime Don West talks it sounds like Banshees shrieking in my ear through a megaphone.

[vjr97]

tna kicked ass this week.i know that the nwo had taken over a tv show b4 but it was still funny.booker t imitating the aniuncer was hysterical

[walking joint]

tna kicked ass this week.i know that the nwo had taken over a tv show b4 but it was still funny.booker t imitating the aniuncer was hysterical

i watched it and i thought it sucked. just a terrible pace to the show. and I want to like TNA and other wrestling, but TNA just does nothing for me. Booker T was funny for a few minutes, but it got annoying fast. the funniest part was when he was in the ring beating people up doing the announcing.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm interested in Samoa Joe's repackaging. I wonder if he'll be like he was before he got into Ring of Honor. If you look back at his early matches he had the tribal face paint and blonde hair. Couldn't tell if he was totally reverting back to it but it might be early Samoa Joe coming into TNA to give some life to his character.

[cougarjake13]

I'm interested in Samoa Joe's repackaging. I wonder if he'll be like he was before he got into Ring of Honor. If you look back at his early matches he had the tribal face paint and blonde hair. Couldn't tell if he was totally reverting back to it but it might be early Samoa Joe coming into TNA to give some life to his character.

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[SpicyMcHaggis]

If the REAL Samoa Joe is anything like the Samoa Joe in this music video, then I hope that's what we see.

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[SpicyMcHaggis]

It is currently being reported that Petey Williams and Lance Hoyt have worked their last days for TNA Wrestling.

[Don Stugots]

If the REAL Samoa Joe is anything like the Samoa Joe in this music video, then I hope that's what we see.

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he is like TAZ 2! like it.

[Heather 8]

You had to know this would pique my interest: multiple sources are saying Stevie Richards will be debuting in TNA very shortly.

[conman823]

It is currently being reported that Petey Williams and Lance Hoyt have worked their last days for TNA Wrestling.

Hoyt, who cares?

But why Petey?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Couldn't agree on a contract continuation.

[cougarjake13]

could petey be wwe bound ??

[SpicyMcHaggis]

The new promotion I work for is in talks with his people as we speak.

[cougarjake13]

The new promotion I work for is in talks with his people as we speak.

that would kick ass

[Knowledged_one]

You had to know this would pique my interest: multiple sources are saying Stevie Richards will be debuting in TNA very shortly.

i still have a bwo shirt that guy was great met him after some ecw shows

[SpicyMcHaggis]

It's being reported that Richards will in fact be the so called therapist that Abyss keeps referring to.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

It's being reported that Richards will in fact be the so called therapist that Abyss keeps referring to.

finally a funny person in tna its just to bad matt morgan is gonna eat him in a barrage of squashes. why does 97% of wrestling suck nowadays not a real question just pointing it out

[cougarjake13]

It's being reported that Richards will in fact be the so called therapist that Abyss keeps referring to.

just watched this past thursdays tna impact


they show a shot from behind the therapist, def looks like stevie richards

and abyss calls him doctor stevie

[styckx]

This empty arena match is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever seen in wrestling.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

When Jerry Lawler and Terry Funk did it way back it was believable. No entrances, all the lights were on. Would have felt more like a fight if there was just no commentary and no production involved other than the cameras.

[Don Stugots]

This empty arena match is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever seen in wrestling.

the rock and Foley did it and i hated it. Wasnt the cage match of Hogan vs Zeus done in an empty arena too?

[epo]

the rock and Foley did it and i hated it. Wasnt the cage match of Hogan vs Zeus done in an empty arena too?

Didn't Rock & Foley do that during the Super Bowl?

[conman823]

When Jerry Lawler and Terry Funk did it way back it was believable. No entrances, all the lights were on. Would have felt more like a fight if there was just no commentary and no production involved other than the cameras.

I actually busted out laughing on my couch when I heard Angles music. WTF? Entrances, it completely deflated the feel of the match.

That and "Nobody will be allowed into the building, these guys are gonna kill each other!" What did the MEM climb in through an air vent?

[conman823]

Also it looked like on this past Impact, the new Suicide is Christopher Daniels.

Suicide just needs to go away.........with Russo

[cougarjake13]

Also it looked like on this past Impact, the new Suicide is Christopher Daniels.

Suicide just needs to go away.........with Russo



i was just gonna post that


it does indeed look like its him

same mannerisms and all

[conman823]

i was just gonna post that


it does indeed look like its him

same mannerisms and all

Yeah I'm convinced after this past week. Why are they not using him a Christopher Daniels? Esp since they got rid of Petey Williams, who I thought would get a push out of the whole Frontline gimmick. Its Vince Russon at his worst.

I'm liking Don West's "falling down" heel turn. "I just can't sit here and look at your lying face anymore."

Still don't see the "Frontline" showing force in this angle. Samoa Joes turkey knife isn't "over" with me. And the show ended with Jarrett, Dudleys, and Foley in the ring. WTF? The Frontline got the shit beat outta them by Angle, Styles got "arrested", and Angle v. Sting has shit too do with the Frontline.

Although I am closer to ordering Destination X then Wrestlemania at this point.

[cougarjake13]

yeh when suicide did the hand gesture to the head like christopher daniels does i was sold on it being him



maybe daniels was coming back as himself after curryman got axed but the injury to kaz forced them to switch it up

[KojiClutch]

Daniels is dressing as Suicide until Kaz returns from injury.

They now have a new Suicide shirt on ShopTNA.com.

God, I hate TNA.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Can't say I'm comfortable with a bunch of kids chanting the name of "Suicide."

[CYYYFYYY]

Is it just me or has Samoa Joe put on alot of weight. Of course worry not we are having a Sting vs Mick Foley main event. I am not sure who the heal in this one is but I am sure it will be done in slow motion.

[cougarjake13]

Is it just me or has Samoa Joe put on alot of weight. Of course worry not we are having a Sting vs Mick Foley main event. I am not sure who the heal in this one is but I am sure it will be done in slow motion.



i thought he lost weight

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm pretty sure he found it and decided to hold onto it this time.

[cougarjake13]

I'm pretty sure he found it and decided to hold onto it this time.

yeh i havent watched it in a few weeks but he first came back with the face tat he looked skinnier

[SpicyMcHaggis]

His tribal arrow face paint looks like a dick on his face...a samoan shaming?

[cougarjake13]

His tribal arrow face paint looks like a dick on his face...a samoan shaming?

hahaha



who did it first ??


samoas fake tat or tysons real tat ??

[cougarjake13]

kurt angle looks incredibly smaller


does heh have aids or something??

[conman823]

kurt angle looks incredibly smaller


does heh have aids or something??

I think he's "cutting weight" to continue his delusion that a man with a three time broken neck can pursue a MMA career.

LOL, Watch some of Angles footage when he started in WWF back when compared to today. He's got crazy in his eyes now, its not a work anymore!

[cougarjake13]

I think he's "cutting weight" to continue his delusion that a man with a three time broken neck can pursue a MMA career.

LOL, Watch some of Angles footage when he started in WWF back when compared to today. He's got crazy in his eyes now, its not a work anymore!



thats what i was thinking it was, he'll get killed


he does realize in mma that they dont let you put the guy in a ankle lock you actually have to try and put the move or hold on for real

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I did a count. Don West said "the bottom line" nearly 50 times in an hour. I hate him so much.

[cougarjake13]

I did a count. Don West said "the bottom line" nearly 50 times in an hour. I hate him so much.

whatever happened to him and the other guys mini feud ??

[conman823]

I did a count. Don West said "the bottom line" nearly 50 times in an hour. I hate him so much.

He really is the worst. His "heel turn" is pathetic. Tenay rips apart his arguements so easy its not even entertaining. "The Brain" always took the over the top explaination to try and save the heels, but it was SOOO over the top that all Monsoon could do was declare "Are you serious?". With West its like he's just reading lines from a paper, which could be happening with Russo around.

TNA is slowly getting better but every one step forward there is 2 steps back. (See: Foley vs Sting for the World Title)

Still the last Impact was better the WM's entire card so. :tongue:

[Chimee]

He really is the worst. His "heel turn" is pathetic. Tenay rips apart his arguements so easy its not even entertaining. "The Brain" always took the over the top explaination to try and save the heels, but it was SOOO over the top that all Monsoon could do was declare "Are you serious?". With West its like he's just reading lines from a paper, which could be happening with Russo around.

TNA is slowly getting better but every one step forward there is 2 steps back. (See: Foley vs Sting for the World Title)

Still the last Impact was better the WM's entire card so. :tongue:

There's a clip out there somewhere where the camera cut to the announcers during the match and it looked like they were both just reading off of a script.

[conman823]

There's a clip out there somewhere where the camera cut to the announcers during the match and it looked like they were both just reading off of a script.

Well I expect some of that, shit its common knowledge that Vince screams into the ear of commentators over at WWE. If its a prep sheet with the matches and bullet points then thats one thing, if its lines for Don "Heel" West like this:

- "You know Tenay, it is unfair because Jeff Jarrett is the founder of TNA and he is screwing Kurt Angle."

then thats shit.

Also on a side note a script leaked to the net a year or so ago that labeled the intro pyro as " Pyro and Ballyhoo" The Wrestling Fan did a satire of it and it had me in tears

http://www.thewrestlingfan.com/pyroandballyhoo.html

[cougarjake13]

is it wrong that i find odb attractive ??


yeh she's not a diva like chick but she looks good


esp recently, it looks like theyre trying to feminize her more

[SpicyMcHaggis]

From ProWrestling.net:

TNA Mobile subscribers were sent a text message on Thursday that teased the company is in "intense negotiations" with a "former World Champion from another organization." The message notes that they are hoping to finalize the deal in time for the Lockdown pay-per-view.

Powell's POV: Former ECW Champion Tazz fits that description and he just left WWE. With the show being in his old stomping grounds of Philadelphia, it would be a great place for his TNA debut.

[cougarjake13]

From ProWrestling.net:

that'd be the 2nd smackdown announcer to jump to tna





will they put him with samoa joe ??

[whorehay]

if Tazz DID jump to TNA, and with Balls Mahoney showing up with Spike Dudley this past Thursday... imagine if TNA pulled off an actual ECW angle that would be better than the "authorized" WWECW.

Stevie Richards and Rhyno are already there too.
if they have that in mind, i'd actually have some spark of interest again!

[ScottFromGA]

I love how the wrestling community automatically assumed Taz was jumping to TNA. He said on his Facebook that he was going to stay home and watch his kid hit the ball around for a long time......


It was Bobby Lashley.....yawn.


oh, on a side note, Mick Foley is the new TNA World Heavyweight Champion.


That'll put a lot of butts in the seats. :wink:

[TripleSkeet]

I liked the Bobby Lashley move. Its nice to see a wrestling company pull off a big surprise with a new name at a PPV. Instead of hyping them for weeks to try to get people to tune in, that shit is just boring anymore.

Good job by TNA.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Was I the only one who thought that Taz was the one who was talking to Samoa Joe before he went out for his match?

[MIKEYDAKEN]

no you were not

[conman823]

if Tazz DID jump to TNA, and with Balls Mahoney showing up with Spike Dudley this past Thursday... imagine if TNA pulled off an actual ECW angle that would be better than the "authorized" WWECW.

Stevie Richards and Rhyno are already there too.
if they have that in mind, i'd actually have some spark of interest again!

Why? Its not new or original. They need something new and origianl to really get people tuning in.

Russo has to go. Jarretts just a bad with keeping his freinds around as Vince is with letting his kids and yes men ruin that company.

[Tazz]

The fact that both Foley and Tazz would leave the place that made them famous for a quick buck sickens me. I thought they both saved their money. I am more upset about the fact that BOTH of them lied when they left, saying they wanted to spend more time with their families, then immediately signing for a quick check.

[epo]

The fact that both Foley and Tazz would leave the place that made them famous for a quick buck sickens me. I thought they both saved their money. I am more upset about the fact that BOTH of them lied when they left, saying they wanted to spend more time with their families, then immediately signing for a quick check.

Actually wouldn't going to TNA be the equivalent of spending more time with their families while still drawing a decent check?

[conman823]

The fact that both Foley and Tazz would leave the place that made them famous for a quick buck sickens me. I thought they both saved their money. I am more upset about the fact that BOTH of them lied when they left, saying they wanted to spend more time with their families, then immediately signing for a quick check.

TNA allows a lot that WWE doesn't. Many of the younger guys wrestle in Japan or in lesser indy feds during their off time to make more money. Also TNA usually films 2 shows a taping once every 2 weeks. If your not contracted to do House shows then you have all that time home with your family. Also you fly to Orlando every time you need to tape so your not in different time zones etc.

Foley was famous as Catus Jack prior to WWE as was Tazz in the real ECW. WWE really didn't do much for Tazz, but I would say it help elevate Foley. That is after Foley got himself over when saddled with the awful Mankind gimmick.

Vince McMahon and the WWE chew people up and spit them out. THey do not care about any of the "talent" and they only want to keep the show going to generate $$. One guy falls to the side with an injury, next guy comes up. Its really a sad business . Just click around Youtube to see interviews with people or read some of the books out there.

[CYYYFYYY]

Taz and Foley were both free agents. The WWE helped them and they helped the WWE. I never hear them bashing the WWE which is nice to see. I have no idea why TNA made Foley champ but that is another story for another time. As for Taz joining the announcing team. Thank goodness. I am not a huge Fan of Taz on the announce table but TNA has the worst crew of all time.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

It seems Taz is going to be given the slow burn treatment and eventually revealed to be the new mentor of Samoa Joe. If you noticed, Samoa Joe did several Taz-plexes upon entering the cage when facing off against the Main Event Mafia.

[Chimee]

If only that could get the crowd to care about him.

[conman823]

It seems Taz is going to be given the slow burn treatment and eventually revealed to be the new mentor of Samoa Joe. If you noticed, Samoa Joe did several Taz-plexes upon entering the cage when facing off against the Main Event Mafia.

If only that could get the crowd to care about him.

Yeah. They really killed Joe's character with the MEM angle. Before that he had a great crowd reaction and people believed he was a legit tough guy. Then they killed him off, he comes back with a plastic knife and NOW we're suppose to believe hes a real bad ass?

If they never beat him down in the first place we wouldn't have to repackage him.

Ugg...Joe should plastic knife Russo in the balls.

[cougarjake13]

so is tazz gonna be the mgr or announcer ??

[SpicyMcHaggis]

It's being reported that Taz will start out as a mentor to Samoa Joe but there is no talk of him being a commentator.

Personally, if they do it, have him commit to it for a bit and when Joe's got the momentum he needs, move Taz to the color commentary position and backstage as a pitchman.

[conman823]

In case anyone doesn't know, TNA is running a Tag Team Torny.

Some of you may remember Tag Team wrestling from "Back in the day" before WWE decided to not care about it anymore.

Most of the matches have been good, with a big upset in Motor City Machine Guns being eliminated in the first round.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

That's retarded. MCMG should be a top contender for the tag titles at this point, regardless of how bad their pseudo pop power punk entrance music is.

[asayresk]

I like the MCMG.

[cougarjake13]

just please dont let a wwe style jabronie thrown together team win it like abyss and morgan

[conman823]

just please dont let a wwe style jabronie thrown together team win it like abyss and morgan

There's 2 guys who need to be wished well on future endevours.

I think the MCMG loss was to build them as the people who expose Suicide.

After the loss they confronted Christopher Daniels about him being Suicide (in a very entertaining segment btw).

I think they will be back in the Tag Title scene very soon after that angle is finished.

Hopefully the angle ends this rediculous Suicide Character. The gimmick has long since run its course, and the video game sold like 30 copies

[Heather 8]

So far on tonight's show, Raven returned and joined forces with Stevie; Victoria debuted and beat down the Beautiful People.

And I guess Shane Douglas actually found a bridge he hasn't completely burnt.

[TripleSkeet]

Ok, I havent watched TNA in about 6 months, my friend called me today and told me I should DVR it. Just got done watching it, here are my thoughts...

- They put on a pretty good show. Better then anything on Raw lately (except Santino).

- Black Machismo cuts a fucking hilarious promo

- Their talent pool is very good. They have a good mix of veterans that can cut promos (Nash, Foley, Douglas, Dudleys) Veterans that can still go in the ring (Angle, Jarret, Sting, Booker), gimmicks (Suicide, Abyss, Dr. Stevie, Raven) high flyers (Daniels, Styles, Amazing Red) and young talented workers that can wrestle (Roode, Machismo, Creed, Motor City Machine Guns)

- They dont ignore their tag team and cruiserweight divisions

There were only 2 big problems I had with the show.

1. They have got to get the fuck out of the Orlando soundstage and get into real arenas with actual wrestling fans. If they arent big enough to book main arenas like Wachovia Center or MSG then book smaller ones like Hammerstein. But their fans are fucking dead. Their chants are weak mainly because half the people their dont even know what the fucks going on. They give no emotion. Raven coming back to confront Stevie Richards and then joining with him shouldve gotten a HUGE pop. Instead you could hear a mouse fart. Which brings me to my second issue...

2. They need new announcers. Real ones. Ones with some fucking life in them. During that Raven segment they were fucking silent. Don West after 7 years still doesnt know dick about wrestling. Although I do see him picking up for the heels sometimes which would be a good step in the right direction. Mike Tenay is like vocal nyquil. Hes very knowledgable but as exciting as my fucking sneaker.

If they fix those 2 problems, with the talent they have, they could really start to grow as a company. They are still lightyears away from competing with WWE but with the product Vince has been putting out now is the time to try and grow and bring in new fans that dont want to give up on wrestling, but do want an alternative to WWE.

[hit11man]

did animal from LOD and rick steiner recently make an appearance?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Years ago.

[conman823]

Ok, I havent watched TNA in about 6 months, my friend called me today and told me I should DVR it. Just got done watching it, here are my thoughts...

- They put on a pretty good show. Better then anything on Raw lately (except Santino).

- Black Machismo cuts a fucking hilarious promo

- Their talent pool is very good. They have a good mix of veterans that can cut promos (Nash, Foley, Douglas, Dudleys) Veterans that can still go in the ring (Angle, Jarret, Sting, Booker), gimmicks (Suicide, Abyss, Dr. Stevie, Raven) high flyers (Daniels, Styles, Amazing Red) and young talented workers that can wrestle (Roode, Machismo, Creed, Motor City Machine Guns)

- They dont ignore their tag team and cruiserweight divisions

There were only 2 big problems I had with the show.

1. They have got to get the fuck out of the Orlando soundstage and get into real arenas with actual wrestling fans. If they arent big enough to book main arenas like Wachovia Center or MSG then book smaller ones like Hammerstein. But their fans are fucking dead. Their chants are weak mainly because half the people their dont even know what the fucks going on. They give no emotion. Raven coming back to confront Stevie Richards and then joining with him shouldve gotten a HUGE pop. Instead you could hear a mouse fart. Which brings me to my second issue...

2. They need new announcers. Real ones. Ones with some fucking life in them. During that Raven segment they were fucking silent. Don West after 7 years still doesnt know dick about wrestling. Although I do see him picking up for the heels sometimes which would be a good step in the right direction. Mike Tenay is like vocal nyquil. Hes very knowledgable but as exciting as my fucking sneaker.

If they fix those 2 problems, with the talent they have, they could really start to grow as a company. They are still lightyears away from competing with WWE but with the product Vince has been putting out now is the time to try and grow and bring in new fans that dont want to give up on wrestling, but do want an alternative to WWE.

I've been saying this for years now. If more people would just give them a chance i'm sure you'll end up like I did, DVRing Impact and ignoring all WWE programming.

No Company is without its problems no matter what the level they are on. IMO TNA just as fewer problems then the WWE now.

WWE is doing thier thing, appealing to the younger generation who will watch for the next 10 years (or until they become smart enough to realize what real 'Wrestling' is).

[SpicyMcHaggis]

The talent is there, it's the way they use their talent and the over-usage of gimmick matches that bugs me.

[conman823]

The talent is there, it's the way they use their talent and the over-usage of gimmick matches that bugs me.

Your complaint has a name: Russo.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

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I'd like to see Joe go back to this. I understand they're trying to do the whole back to his Samoan roots type thing but if they're going to build him into the next Taz, how bout a hybrid Samoan/MMA fighter gimmick. Also he couldn't stand to lose the weight and get a bit leaner.

[conman823]

I just cought up with the last 2 weeks of Impact and need to get some shit off my chest.

Why in gods name is Shane Douglas back in TNA, and even worse, Wrestling for TNA? The man looked terrible, wrestled terrible, and then for his grand return to the ring Jobbed clean to AJ Styles. This builds nothing. Nobody cares, and it furthers nobodys careers.

Can we stop with Suicide already?

Can we stop with the commentary already? Whats worse is Don West had the balls to mention Bobby Heenans name!! If Tenay had any credibility he would have slapped the shit out of him.

Matt Morgan is like a gnat that won't stop buzzing past your ears. All his run in TNA has done for him is show people why Vince got rid of him.

The explaination of " The King of the Mountain" match rules just reminds me to completely ignore the entire PPV.

On the plus side, the Samoa Joe angle is moving along nicely. And Victoria will make a great edition to an already strong Knockouts Division.

[CYYYFYYY]

Yep Shane Douglas in Horrid shape. Why bring back old guys in horrible condition. Doe we really need Shane?

[cougarjake13]

I just cought up with the last 2 weeks of Impact and need to get some shit off my chest.

Why in gods name is Shane Douglas back in TNA, and even worse, Wrestling for TNA? The man looked terrible, wrestled terrible, and then for his grand return to the ring Jobbed clean to AJ Styles. This builds nothing. Nobody cares, and it furthers nobodys careers.

Can we stop with Suicide already?

Can we stop with the commentary already? Whats worse is Don West had the balls to mention Bobby Heenans name!! If Tenay had any credibility he would have slapped the shit out of him.

Matt Morgan is like a gnat that won't stop buzzing past your ears. All his run in TNA has done for him is show people why Vince got rid of him.

The explaination of " The King of the Mountain" match rules just reminds me to completely ignore the entire PPV.

On the plus side, the Samoa Joe angle is moving along nicely. And Victoria will make a great edition to an already strong Knockouts Division.


i was def happy that victoria joined tna

[conman823]

Yep Shane Douglas in Horrid shape. Why bring back old guys in horrible condition. Doe we really need Shane?

Some Old Guys aren't in that bad of shape. Nash looks the best he has since his first WWF run, and Angle is jacked.

Guys like Foley and Sting look like they haven't even seen a gym in 6 years. Well Foley it's probably more like never.

Shane Douglas had farmers tan, and should have came to the ring in his Target shirt if for no other reason then my own personal amusement.

i was def happy that victoria joined tna

TNA lets there Women wrestle. Not only that but they Wrestle pretty good. She will add tremendouly to the division. I hope they let Angelina Love actually perform like I know she can during thier match.

[cougarjake13]

oh yeh i know they let em wrestle


theyre not just batch material like in the E

[Dirtbag]

Some Old Guys aren't in that bad of shape. Nash looks the best he has since his first WWF run, and Angle is jacked.

Guys like Foley and Sting look like they haven't even seen a gym in 6 years. Well Foley it's probably more like never.
Angle's not really an old guy. He's 41 and its not like he's been in the business for 25 years. And Foley's never looked in shape, regardless of whether he is or not.

[TripleSkeet]

Can we stop with the commentary already? Whats worse is Don West had the balls to mention Bobby Heenans name!! If Tenay had any credibility he would have slapped the shit out of him.


You cant blame Don West for something like that. Hes not the one making himself turn heel, and Im sure hes not the one who came up with the idea of mentioning Bobby Heenan. Yes the announcers suck, but if your problem is more what they say instead of how they say it, you gotta blame management.

[conman823]

Angle's not really an old guy. He's 41 and its not like he's been in the business for 25 years. And Foley's never looked in shape, regardless of whether he is or not.

Devils advocate for that is that he already came to the WWF with prior injuries from his Amature Career. That coupled with his consistant poundings in the ring I think advances his age as far as the business goes.

The guys an animal, I think he would wrestle 5 times a night if you would let him. He even wants to do MMA with all his injuries.

[conman823]

You cant blame Don West for something like that. Hes not the one making himself turn heel, and Im sure hes not the one who came up with the idea of mentioning Bobby Heenan. Yes the announcers suck, but if your problem is more what they say instead of how they say it, you gotta blame management.

Its just the balls of it. Management or whoever to allow that Fat tub of know-nothing shit to speak his name. I was enraged.



TNA is in a holding pattern of being afraid to try anything new it seems. I get this feeling that Jarrett takes on all these people because they have nowhere else to go and is too soft to cut them loose. It just needs to be done. As much as a fuck Vince is he seems to understand Business is Business.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Mick Foley vs. Jeff Jarrett vs. A.J. Styles vs. Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle in a King of the Mountain match for the TNA Title
The balance of power has been confusing. Mick Foley is the executive shareholder and can make matches, suspend people, fire people, do whatever he likes, but it seems that as Founder of TNA (which he reminds us repetitively) that Jarrett can do the same thing. If that's the case, why not just take the title away from Foley? Regardless, their feud will not be about the title anymore after this match occurs because I only see Kurt Angle coming out on top. Styles and Joe will be partnering through a majority of the match but obviously that alliance will dwindle when it comes to who wants the title more. What would I like to see happen? I'd love to see AJ Styles win his first TNA World Championship (having only been NWA World Champion in the past) but I think Angle will be the one leaving with the gold.

Suicide vs. Jay Lethal vs. Consequences Creed vs. Alex Shelly vs. Chris Sabin in a King of the Mountain match for the X Division Title
Two KOTM matches? One is enough for me because the stipulations aren't confusing enough as it is being a "reverse ladder match" but being that these are all X-Division wrestlers, it will be interesting to see what they can do to out do the main event. Suicide retains and will hopefully eventually be revealed to be Frankie Kazarian.

Sting vs. Matt Morgan
The story here is that Matt Morgan, a physical specimen who talks to fast, wants to really be in the Main Event Mafia. As Sting has told him, he has to be a former world champion to be apart of it. Morgan, in all respect to Sting, tells him he never got a shot at the world title but knows he could be one. So Sting, in the most reasonable and logical course of action, decides to wrestle Morgan at the PPV, putting his position in the MEM on the line, like any sane person would do. *Sigh* I don't know what to say. My prediction is that perhaps because of the recent distension in the ranks of the MEM by Nash, Booker, and Steiner in regards to Sting being the new boss, one of them will cost him the position and allow Morgan to hang with them just to spite him. Or, going in the other direction, Sting will beat Morgan, Morgan will continue trying to beat Sting, and the two will feud leading up to Sting's retirement match at Bound For Glory as Sting has been quoted as saying he wants one of the younger guys to be put over and management is very fond of Morgan feeling that they've built up someone who could have potentially been bigger in WWE.

Team 3D vs. Beer Money for the TNA Tag Titles
Beer Money Inc. has a bit of a cult following in the TNA fan base and no one hates Team 3D. This will be a good match from beginning to end. I really have no thoughts as to who will win or lose because it can go either way but no one will be disappointed by the match they put on.

Angelina Love vs. Tara for the TNA Knockouts Title
The former Victoria and her quest, like many other Knockouts in TNA, to destroy the Beautiful People continues as she tries to take away the title from Love. I like this feud and I want to see it continue and not have the title put on Tara so quickly. Love picks up the victory with outside help from her partners and we see this feud continue until Bound For Glory.

Abyss and Taylor Wilde vs. Raven and Daffney in a Monster's Ball match
The best thing about this has been the pairing of Raven and Daffney along with Dr. Stevie (Richards). Raven once again shows how much he can do just by not doing a thing. The simple panning shots of him sitting on the floor in the middle of interviews backstage on Impact has been very effective. The lurking mastermind behind Daffney's psychosis and having Dr. Stevie be his voice has been great and it brings back memories of his old psychological warfare tactics during his title reign in ECW. Abyss seems to be the Anti-Raven of sorts but in a bigger body. If Raven were to ultimately be in control of Abyss, I can see it happening and eventually having Dr. Stevie being revealed into nothing more than a quack and reverting back to his old Raven worshiping ways.

Daniels vs. Shane Douglas
Shane Douglas returned with a spare tire (or two) pissed off that Daniels was given a chance to return to TNA even though he believes himself to be more worthy of a return. If Daniels loses, Douglas gets his roster spot. The better stipulation of this match would be that if Douglas wins he gets to join the roster rather than taking someone else's position because once again I bring up the common phrase "that doesn't make any sense." Whatever. Douglas will find a way to get back and if he doesn't get back in shape, he could always be a manager of sorts to someone like he did with Andy Douglas and Chase Stevens, a.k.a The Naturals.

[Scottyflamingo]

My main problem with TNA right now is the amount of time spent on Foley and Jarrett. The usually get an in-ring segment and 2 or 3 backstage segments per show. Foley should NOT be champion when there are so many better guys in the company. Sting, Jarret, and Foley should be used as special attractions, not the center of the company.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

This PPV tonight is an excellent opportunity to put over the younger talent and really brand their own instead of relying on the former WWE/WCW stars. Tonight, Beer Money, Angelina Love, and AJ Styles should leave with the big three titles tonight. The X-Division wrestlers should steal the show tonight. This anniversary should be the reason why TNA should be noticed by the common fan. Abyss should win and look strong. Daniels should look excellent. Matt Morgan should look great as well. This is the night they should really make everything they've worked for worth watching by truly making TNA branded stars.

[Chimee]

This PPV tonight is an excellent opportunity to put over the younger talent and really brand their own instead of relying on the former WWE/WCW stars. Tonight, Beer Money, Angelina Love, and AJ Styles should leave with the big three titles tonight. The X-Division wrestlers should steal the show tonight. This anniversary should be the reason why TNA should be noticed by the common fan. Abyss should win and look strong. Daniels should look excellent. Matt Morgan should look great as well. This is the night they should really make everything they've worked for worth watching by truly making TNA branded stars.

And you know Jeff Jarrett will probably win the title again.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

An hour and a half in, so far so good.

[cougarjake13]

QUICK RESULTS:
- X Champion Suicide won the first King Of The Mountain match
- Daniels defeated Shane Douglas
- Knockouts Champion Angelina Love defeated Tara
- Abyss & Taylor Wilde beat Raven & Daffney in Monster's Ball
- Sting defeated Matt Morgan
- Beer Money beat Team 3D to win the Tag Team Title
- Kurt Angle won the King Of The Mountain to become new World Champion, thanks to Samoa Joe turning his back on his friends and fans to help Angle!




knew it was only a matter of time before angle got it back


really hoped that styles would have

[styckx]

That first video isn't too obvious at all. And what horrendous music. YAY a wrestler is gonna debut who won't actually wrestle.

http://www.facebook.com/TotalNonstopAction#/TotalNonstopAction?ref=mf

[SpicyMcHaggis]

According to TNAWrestlingNews.com, former NWA Anarchy (where Consequences Creed came from) and current NWA Charlotte stars Mikael Judas and Phil Shatter will debut as the new bodyguards of Mick Foley. This is apparently supposed to be their introduction to the promotion and will eventually lead to them breaking off and becoming bigger prospects.

Personally I think this is a great talent pickup. Both men have the build, the ability, the charisma, and the intangible that is hard to find. In NWA Charlotte, along former WWE Developmental talent "Roughhouse" Ryan O'Reilly, they are apart of the stable "III" which is currently their most popular group. Here are some videos about the two from NWA Charlotte.

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[cougarjake13]

That first video isn't too obvious at all. And what horrendous music. YAY a wrestler is gonna debut who won't actually wrestle.

http://www.facebook.com/TotalNonstopAction#/TotalNonstopAction?ref=mf

if he doesnt wrestle hopefully he replaces tenay or west

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Prediction. Samoa Joe, secretly being coached by Taz, was used to infiltrate the MEM only to cost them big at Victory Road.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Prediction. Samoa Joe, secretly being coached by Taz, was used to infiltrate the MEM only to cost them big at Victory Road.

i like those odds

[Chimee]

Prediction. Samoa Joe, secretly being coached by Taz, was used to infiltrate the MEM only to cost them big at Victory Road.

I'm hoping that's the direction they're going in and not pulling a Vince and giving us a shittier storyline because people figured out Taz was going to be revealed as his mentor.

[TripleSkeet]

I like TNA this week. The show was pretty solid. There were a few exceptions, Steiner being so frigging clumsy his beatdown of Foley just looked fake and awful, yet he managed to legitimately split open the eyebrow of his own partner. The guy is worth having for the comedic flubs alone.

And what happened to Raven and Shane Douglas?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Raven and Douglas have parted ways with TNA.

[TripleSkeet]

Raven and Douglas have parted ways with TNA.

That was quick. Any idea why?

[Evolved]

That was quick. Any idea why?

Have you seen Douglas? If so you'd know why.

[TripleSkeet]

Have you seen Douglas? If so you'd know why.

I have to call shenanigans on this one.

[Evolved]

I have to call shenanigans on this one.

Seriously, he was fat and out of shape with a farmers tan.

[TripleSkeet]

Seriously, he was fat and out of shape with a farmers tan.

I agree. I saw him. I just think he's still in TNA.

[Evolved]

I agree. I saw him. I just think he's still in TNA.

Oh, ok. Carry on.

[conman823]

Raven and Douglas have parted ways with TNA.

Raven needs to kinda re-invent himself and Shane Douglas needs to part ways with McDonalds.

[3Setsof10]

They weren't going to be used long and beyond the initial angles anyway

[SpicyMcHaggis]

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/components/com_fpss/images/lashley4.jpg

Full Story Here (http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1597/84/)

[TripleSkeet]

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/components/com_fpss/images/lashley4.jpg

Full Story Here (http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1597/84/)

Good get for them. Plus he gets to keep pursuing his MMA career, which I like.

[conman823]

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/components/com_fpss/images/lashley4.jpg

Full Story Here (http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1597/84/)

GOOD GET? This guy used to put people to sleep in the audience!

I was hoping this wouldn't happen, this guy is just Wrestling Cancer.

Oh well, I guess I'll enjoy NO wrestling shows from now on

Except WWE Classics

Edit: Furthermore the article on TNA.com made me throw up a little in my mouth.

[RingWraith]

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/components/com_fpss/images/lashley4.jpg

Full Story Here (http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1597/84/)

BOO!!! He stinks!

[cougarjake13]

he and brock are better off in MMA, they both suck ass on the mic and they dont need to do much of that in MMA

[3Setsof10]

he and brock are better off in MMA, they both suck ass on the mic and they dont need to do much of that in MMA

You...must not have seen the latest UFC PPV. Brock is gold on the mic

[conman823]

You...must not have seen the latest UFC PPV. Brock is gold on the mic

QFT, not only that but he's a more convincing Heel now in UFC then he was in WWE.

Me and my buddy always refered to Lashley as "Black Lesner". He's really nothing but a huge body with a baby head and no Entertainment value what so ever.

[conman823]

Just watched Impact this morning and I gotta say that the Women's Division is really holding my attention these days. The matches are really something to see and the character development in the division is top notch.

I wouldn't mind even seeing a TV Special with all Knockout Matches. I think it would draw huge ratings for SPIKE if marketed well.

Just hope they make the Tara V Love Match at the PPV worth watching. Love shouldn't be getting squashed like that its damaging to the character they spent 8 months developing.


PROS:
-Knockout Division.
-British Invasion.
-Kurt Angle and anytime he's on screen.

CONS:
-Anytime Matt Morgan or Abyss are on screen.
-WTF with Sharmell and that bimbo from Survivor.
-What happened to that AJ Styles guy?

[RingWraith]

QFT, not only that but he's a more convincing Heel now in UFC then he was in WWE.

Me and my buddy always refered to Lashley as "Black Lesner". He's really nothing but a huge body with a baby head and no Entertainment value what so ever.

Me and friends also refer Lashley (poor mans version of Brock) as the "Black Lesner".

And that baby head, makes him the least intimidating big man I've ever seen in wrestling.

[cougarjake13]

You...must not have seen the latest UFC PPV. Brock is gold on the mic

ohh i did

and for mma that was good


but when they were in the wwe, they sucked

[cougarjake13]

QFT, not only that but he's a more convincing Heel now in UFC then he was in WWE.

Me and my buddy always refered to Lashley as "Black Lesner". He's really nothing but a huge body with a baby head and no Entertainment value what so ever.

and the wwe even gave lashley some of brocks finishes and even they way they went to the ring

[cougarjake13]

Just watched Impact this morning and I gotta say that the Women's Division is really holding my attention these days. The matches are really something to see and the character development in the division is top notch.

I wouldn't mind even seeing a TV Special with all Knockout Matches. I think it would draw huge ratings for SPIKE if marketed well.

Just hope they make the Tara V Love Match at the PPV worth watching. Love shouldn't be getting squashed like that its damaging to the character they spent 8 months developing.


PROS:
-Knockout Division.
-British Invasion.
-Kurt Angle and anytime he's on screen.

CONS:
-Anytime Matt Morgan or Abyss are on screen.
-WTF with Sharmell and that bimbo from Survivor.
-What happened to that AJ Styles guy?




i also love the tna womens, esp since they added victoria

so how would you have the match go to not completely squash love but not kill the momentum with victoria ??

a run in by the beautiful people maybe ?? or maybe kong interferes

[conman823]

i also love the tna womens, esp since they added victoria

so how would you have the match go to not completely squash love but not kill the momentum with victoria ??

a run in by the beautiful people maybe ?? or maybe kong interferes

I'm not saying to kill her momentum, but to allow Love to actual wrestle like I know she can. They need to let the match have some back and forth instead of just widows peak, boom, the end.

For a finish I would say:
A reversal on the widows peak that leads to a ref bump. Then a BP run in. Tara runs out the BP then as the ref "comes to" Love (playing possum) goes for a small package. Then the old roll over with Loves shoulder pinned and the 123.

At least a little face saving.