Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire [Archive]

hammersavage

11-16-2005, 11:44 AM

Well, it comes out Friday. Not my favorite book of the series but its getting good reviews.   
Anyone going to a midnight show tomorrow night besides me?  And yes, i know i'm a loser. 


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11-16-2005, 12:14 PM

Gonna hit the IMAX theatre over the weekend, but looking forward to it. 

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Jennitalia

11-16-2005, 12:43 PM

I'm taking my brother to see it next weekend

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11-16-2005, 12:52 PM

my girl and i will be seeing on friday night....

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11-17-2005, 03:30 AM

Friday night. Just wasn't quite quick enough to snag Thursday night tix!

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LordJezo

11-17-2005, 09:53 AM

IMAX at the Palisades Center is already sold out all weekend.Sucks.Lowes IMAX in NYC still has tickets..  maybe I will do that. 
 

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HBox

11-17-2005, 10:57 AM

There's an IMAX theater at the Tropicana in AC that will be playing the movie. 

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LordJezo

11-21-2005, 04:04 AM

So anyone else besides me get dressed up in Harry Potter colors and go see the movie this weekend? 

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11-21-2005, 04:24 AM

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11-21-2005, 09:53 AM

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FMJeff

11-21-2005, 10:12 AM

amazing movie...worth every penny...long movie, but didn't feel it...a veritable feast for the eyes..

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TheMojoPin

11-21-2005, 11:24 AM

Jesus, Jeff.  Ease off the bombast.

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Doctor Manhattan

11-21-2005, 11:28 AM

quote: So anyone else besides me get dressed up in Harry Potter colors and go see the movie this weekend? <a></a>Harry Potter always wears the same colors? I still haven't read any of the books.

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fezident

11-21-2005, 12:12 PM

This is gonna sound crazy but, let me just throw this out there:NOBODY REALLY LIKES THESE F'CKING HARRY POTTER MOVIES.Because of my wifes job, we had to see the last movie and this new episode more than once.  And lemme tell ya.... KIDS SIMPLY DON'T LIKE THEM.  They shuffle around in their seats the whole time, they talk the whole time, they take naps, they get up to pee a few times, sometimes they are just looking down at the floor and swinging their feet. And this was happening at multiple screenings in multiple theatres/cities.My wife and I (and the Warner Bros rep) noticed it last time and we noticed it again this time. The kids come out it record numbers to see these movies but, they just don't commit to liking them.  They see the movie just so they can say they've seen it...or something like that.It reminds me of the Cabbage Patch Doll craze 20 years ago.  Kids reeeeally wanted them.  They begged for them but, once they got one...they didn't really play with it.  They just wanted to have one.And the adults aren't really engrossed either.  Not the majority anyway.  I assume that many of them are there because they are with their kids.  Yes, there are SOME young adults that really dig on these movies but, not enough to fuel the craze.  It's very strange.  Maybe the real mania is in Europe or somethin'. 

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FMJeff

11-21-2005, 01:25 PM

quote: This is gonna sound crazy but, let me just throw this out there:NOBODY REALLY LIKES THESE F'CKING HARRY POTTER MOVIES.Because of my wifes job, we had to see the last movie and this new episode more than once.  And lemme tell ya.... KIDS SIMPLY DON'T LIKE THEM.  They shuffle around in their seats the whole time, they talk the whole time, they take naps, they get up to pee a few times, sometimes they are just looking down at the floor and swinging their feet. And this was happening at multiple screenings in multiple theatres/cities.My wife and I (and the Warner Bros rep) noticed it last time and we noticed it again this time. The kids come out it record numbers to see these movies but, they just don't commit to liking them.  They see the movie just so they can say they've seen it...or something like that.It reminds me of the Cabbage Patch Doll craze 20 years ago.  Kids reeeeally wanted them.  They begged for them but, once they got one...they didn't really play with it.  They just wanted to have one.And the adults aren't really engrossed either.  Not the majority anyway.  I assume that many of them are there because they are with their kids.  Yes, there are SOME young adults that really dig on these movies but, not enough to fuel the craze.  It's very strange.  Maybe the real mania is in Europe or somethin'. <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/tucker71/fezident.jpg" border="0" /> LOUD NOISES!! You should really tell the theaters reporting staggering ticket sales every time a new Potter movie is released. <a href="http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2001/HPOTT.html">http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2001/HPOTT.html</a><a href="http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2002/HPOT2.html">http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2002/HPOT2.html</a><a href="http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2004/HPOT3.php">http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2004/HPOT3.php</a>

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fezident

11-21-2005, 01:50 PM

(I know you're being sarcastic but...yeah, I already mentioned that the kids turn out in record numbers....) WB is very much aware of this  "faux fan" thing that kids are displaying  Of course WB will continue to make the movies but, the fact that kids don't REEEALLY get engrossed definitely does concern them.  After the screenings...it was, pretty much, all we talked about.Do they gross 300 million? Yes.  But it COULD'VE been 600 million or more.

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curtoid

11-21-2005, 02:15 PM

Pretty good movie for the people who have read the books and/or seen the rest of the films. They were smart and got rid of any scenes that were redundant with the earlier movies (Harry fighting that mean kid, Harry being annoyed by his mean relatives, Harry practicing magic), and with the exception of over explaining why Harry is so damn important, they left out any cliff-noting of the back story and other characters to get those not in the know up to speed, and went right to the meat of the story. They even had some time to actually do a lil bit of character development, and ordinary stuff that should remind everyone how much it sucks being 14.This is the year of the dark "kids" movies. This year we saw the first ever PG-13 versions of "Harry Potter" and "Star Wars" films; the "Batman" films are usually that rating, but this year it seemed particularly kid un-friendly. And while "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" was both PG and more tied in with the books, it seemed very adult and very dark. 

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DarkHippie

11-21-2005, 03:18 PM

I was disappointedThey left out some important stuff that while someone who read the books would know, but non readers wouldn't.  They left out how Barty Jr escaped from Azkaban.  They left out why Harry and Voldemort's wands countered each other, and why cedric and harry's parents showed up (they did mention the term, but not why).

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Death Metal Moe

11-21-2005, 03:21 PM

I guess this and Kill Bill are the 2 things I don't get but everyone else does.Could care less.

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ADF

11-21-2005, 03:32 PM

quote:I guess this and Kill Bill are the 2 things I don't get but everyone else does.Could care less.

 
 You mean "Could not care less." 

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11-21-2005, 03:37 PM

quote: quote: I guess this and Kill Bill are the 2 things I don't get but everyone else does.Could care less. You mean "Could not care less." <a href="http://somesuch.org/" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.somesuch.org/sigpics/safetyadf.png" border="0" /></a> And that's the end of my show.. donk.Thanks a pantload Carl Corrector. 

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JustJon

11-22-2005, 09:26 AM

quote:I was disappointedThey
left out some important stuff that while someone who read the books
would know, but non readers wouldn't. They left out how Barty Jr
escaped from Azkaban. They left out why Harry and Voldemort's wands
countered each other, and why cedric and harry's parents showed up
(they did mention the term, but not why).

You're
nitpicking.  Those really aren't important details.  Does
anyone care how he escaped?  No, the important piece of info is
that he did.  They've implied that Harry and Voldy counter each
other, and it extended to the wands.  As for the ghosts, it
doesn't really matter how they came back, just that they did to protect
Harry.  I thought the movie was excellent. 
Focused on the important story details while adding in enough
characterization to get a feel for who they were if you hadn't seen the
previous movies.  Also, I really like the way they played Hermione
and Ron off each other, especially at the end of the ball. 

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Jennitalia

11-22-2005, 10:21 AM

do they get it on?  that's what i care about the most.

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11-22-2005, 10:33 AM

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blakjeezis

11-22-2005, 11:54 AM

Mad Eye was great, if a touch and I mean just a touch - one RCH - overplayed. Voldemort was perfect. That's all I was seriously worried about. The rest was basically gravy, although I guess I'm not 100% sold on this version of Dumbledore - a little too unsure, aggressive and shouty for my taste. I would've preferred that he didn't get too crazy until blowing through Moody's door at the end. But, eh, minor nitpicks. Would've liked to have seen more Krum; Hermione a little less emotional all the fucking time. In comparison to Prisoner of Azkaban, not as good a film, but a better translation of the book. Does that make sense? Cuaron cut too much of the MWPP backstory. Overall A-/B+.  <img src="http://members.hostedscripts.com/randomimage.cgi?user=blakjeezis" border="0" /> If I were any better, I'd have to be twins!! INRI White people are so scared of blakjeezis INRI"Well, maybe there's a god above, but all I ever learned from love was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you." "God takes care of old folks and fools, while the Devil takes care of makin' all the rules."

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JustJon

11-22-2005, 06:55 PM

quote:do they get it on? that's what i care about the most.  End of the 6th book. 

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Kobe8

11-22-2005, 07:05 PM

quote: quote: do they get it on? that's what i care about the most.  End of the 6th book. Pg. 243"Harry! Use the wand!  Oh yes...dear God yes!!! Use the vibrating spell!" 

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11-22-2005, 07:13 PM

Fucking Awful, just horrible... even my kid hated it.<img title="gobble" height="422" alt="gobble" src="http://www.supyo.com/home/crazypics/images_3/gobble.jpg" width="280" border="0" /><img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/linkWray.jpg" border="0" /> There'll be a RUMBLE in Heaven

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King Imp

11-22-2005, 09:10 PM

So, when does Snape kill Dumbledore?

JustJon

11-23-2005, 09:26 AM

quote:So, when does Snape kill Dumbledore? 

 End of the 6th book. 

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PhishHead

12-04-2005, 12:43 PM

i finally saw this yesterday and thought it was a horrible adaptation of the book.  It hardly followed the book, it basically used it as an outline and then added the bulk in.  Hardly anything about the Quidditch world cup or the move krum uses during the tournament and then harry does the same thing during the tri-wizard tourney.  Not to mention that the Dragon scene with Harry is completely way off from the book.  Then the part in the lake Doby is the one who gives Harry the gillyweed, and what happened with Hermoine talking about SPEW??? That was never mentioned at all.  Then Voldemort giving Harry the Love speech which is completely BS because Dumbledore is the one who does it.  Yes i know I am nitpicking but I dont care.  They took scenes out but yet were able to add scenes to the movie that arent even in the book.  Oh yes and left out the funniest part of the book where Ron asks Krum for his autograph.  Also they never show the Rita skeeter story line and how Hermoine captures her because this is very important in the coming books.  I felt it was horrible and worse one out of the movies so far, this director was horrible.  Yea also didnt explain the Mad-Eye moody thing at all didnt even show him out of the hole.  Horrible. 

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12-04-2005, 06:34 PM

I saw it at the IMAX last Saturday and enjoyed it (even cooler was the 3D short they showed before hand). I seen it with people that read the books, so I had to endure another post movie "well in the book it was like... they should have put this in...". It pisses me off. Just enjoy it. 

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12-05-2005, 02:37 AM

quote: I saw it at the IMAX last Saturday and enjoyed it (even cooler was the 3D short they showed before hand). I seen it with people that read the books, so I had to endure another post movie "well in the book it was like... they should have put this in...". It pisses me off. Just enjoy it. <img src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetEddie.jpg" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.myspace.com/wwfallon">My Space - Don't know what it's for, but I'm on it!</a> "Remember, at XM Satellite Radio you can never be too specific."Ugh I so fucking agree with you its not even funny. ENOUGH with the people who dismiss film adaptations solely based on the fact that content was re-written, taken out of context or misused entirely. It's called dramatic license. There is no way you can do a word-for-word lift from the text. It would be impossible and bad filmmaking. Some things only work on paper. If you've done any kind of screenplay writing you'd realize that. It's literally impossible to pull off everything written down on paper unless you have some foreknowledge of how it is going to be accomplished on film. Moreover, its EXPENSIVE to include every scene in the book. Everytime you have a new scene you add millions to the cost of the film. I haven't read Goblet of Fire, hell I haven't read any of the Potter books, but I appreciate the films on their artistic merits and translating an imaginary world into a tangible reality. I hear this shit all the time from LOTR fans. Enough already. The combined works of Tolkien are longer than the Bible. The problem with fans of sci-fi and fantasy literature is they can never let go of the text and just enjoy the films, for the simple reason that the text in most cases is more rich in substance. No shit. You create the imagery in your head. Most of the time the film never meets your expectations, but if you honestly think the Potter films and the LOTR films don't even hold a candle to the original work than there's just no arguing with you. Same goes for the comic book adapts...bah humbug. Spiderman's web shooters. Sabertooth not knowing Wolverine. Story exclusions from Sin City. I think people just want to complain at this point. Exclusions are not a bad thing. Bad storytelling is a bad thing. See Dungeons and Dragons to see what I'm talking about.One only hopes Narnia delivers. 

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PhishHead

12-05-2005, 02:55 AM

quote:  Moreover, its EXPENSIVE to include every scene in the book. Everytime you have a new scene you add millions to the cost of the film. I haven't read Goblet of Fire, hell I haven't read any of the Potter books, but I appreciate the films on their artistic merits and translating an imaginary world into a tangible reality. yea but its ok to add scenes that are obiviously expensive i.e., the scene of Harry flying around with the dragon which is not part of the book at all??  or how about the part where Harry gives Fred and George his winnings from the tourny, that plays an important role in books that follow, is it just going to be mentioned in passing later on?I agree as for someone who hasnt read the book or care its a great stand alone movie....as a movie that has a book behind it, its not that good.  I will not argue that the artistic merits and translation of an imaginary world into a tangible reality is great .  I am just saying dont take out good scenes from the book and add in shit that doesnt even happen at all, that just makes no sense.   <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=Phishhead" border="0" /> thanks to fallon and monsterone for the sigs.

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Doctor Manhattan

12-05-2005, 04:42 AM

Books and Films are too different forms of media (I meant to write it as "too" they are way too different to have a filmmaker follow a book closely)I haven't seen it, so I'm not going to defend the addition of the Dragon scene that was not in the book (It may not have been a good fit in the filmed version of this story) but J. K Rowling herself has said she likes the fact that other creative people are bringing things into her universe. 

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JustJon

12-05-2005, 09:22 AM

It comes down to the movie being a more visual medium.  Taking the dragon out of the arena looks cooler than keeping it confined, especially since it's a "aerial battle."  Honestly, I read the books years ago and didn't remember exactly how the fight went. 

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12-05-2005, 11:46 AM

quote: It comes down to the movie being a more visual medium.  Taking the dragon out of the arena looks cooler than keeping it confined, especially since it's a "aerial battle."  Honestly, I read the books years ago and didn't remember exactly how the fight went. <img src="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/bans/rfjustjon11.gif" border="0" /> <a href="http://www.chaoticconcepts.com/">Chaotic Concepts</a> Exactly. I mean, technically I hear Snape smacking the boys in the back of the head was not in the book. The director added it b/c he wanted to reflec the subtle brutality of english schools. Yes it wasn't in the book, but let's not kid ourselves and say it wasn't a particularly thrilling scene which didn't take away from the plot and only enhanced the drama of what I imagine without the dogfight to be a rather mundane scene. As for Harry not sharing his winnings and other relevant passages applicable to future book storylines, there's plenty of ways around that. Either write around it or show a flashback.You also have to understand while those scenes had meaning in later books, you probably didn't even give them a second thought until that a-ha moment came along that made it relevant to THAT story. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/imagestorage/fmjeff.gif" border="0" /> It made my heart sing.

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Smalls

12-07-2005, 05:09 PM

Sucks. Just an awful movie that changes the director every other movie.
The first two were moderately annoying at best and the third is just as
asinine as this last one. I was dragged along on it  on the
pretense that I would also be going to Suncoast. You couldn't pay me to
see another movie or read another one of the books. If I see one more
kid in a Harry Potter costume, I'm gonna smash his head with a cinder
block.

Doctor Manhattan

12-23-2005, 07:32 AM

I saw the film and had this question:They made a big deal about how dangerous the 3 tasks of the Tri-Wizard Cup thing was and they didn't want young wizards taking part. Harry was too young but since the Goblet of Fire's word is wizard law, he is part of it.So why did they involve the other young wizard's in the second task, having them be underwater and almost die if not saved in time?

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