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Tenbatsuzen

01-08-2006, 08:37 PM

Remember James Frey, the guest Ron and Fez had on back in
mid-December, promoting his book about addiction, that was a selection
on the Oprah Book Club? 
Well, it looks like The Smoking Gun has exposed him to be a complete bullshit artist. <a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0104061jamesfrey1.html">A
Million Little Pieces, A Million Little Lies.</a> 
 

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Fallon

01-08-2006, 08:42 PM

Fucker. He was the worst guest they've had since being on XM. 

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Dirtybird12

01-08-2006, 08:43 PM

good job Earl.  Just kidding.  Big deal. Still made for good radio.  

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PapaBear

01-08-2006, 08:48 PM

Staples is going to fucking LOVE this!

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01-08-2006, 08:53 PM

So does this mean we're back to it being cool to say addiction IS a disease? I'm just trying to keep up.<img title="aa big book" height="753" alt="aa big book" src="http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/default/pics_gen/b-1_4th.jpg" width="500" border="0" />Doesn't make the stories any less engaging. I never believed that William S. Burroughs drank narcotic jism out of the heads of aliens.<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/boboBigJoe.jpg" border="0" /> There's a fat man in the bathtub with the blues.

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HBox

01-08-2006, 08:53 PM

This thing is fucking LONG. I'm almost through one page and for all the trashing of him they're doing, they've only made one specific accusation and no evidence to back it up yet. I'll try to get through this, but HOLY FUCK. 

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FUNKMAN

01-08-2006, 08:59 PM

i didn't buy it ... i got my own fucking life to think about

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HBox

01-08-2006, 09:47 PM

That was much longer than it needed to be, but it doesn't look good for James Frye. I hope this sotry has legs and ruins him, if true. 

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The Nature Boy

01-09-2006, 04:31 AM

quote: This thing is fucking LONG. I'm almost through one page and for all the trashing of him they're doing, they've only made one specific accusation and no evidence to back it up yet. I'll try to get through this, but HOLY FUCK.   Keep reading, it's in there.And I can't wait to watch this one play out, what a shithead this guy is.  He could have just done the Hunter Thompson gimmick in Fear and Loathing of "Only a maniac would write this and say its all true" which distanced him from having the back up what he spoke of, but strangely that title is still listed in the non-fiction category.  I actually bought the book after hearing him on Ron and Fez, but now I'll think twice about buying My Friend Leonard.  For what it's worth, I've read a few drug manuscripts, and I had my hunches this was laced with generous heaps of bullshit from the getgo, but I treated it as a work of fiction and enjoyed the read, its an engaging style of writing. 

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hereintheUK

01-09-2006, 05:15 AM

I think he was one of the best guests they have had at XM. It certainly sticks out in my memory as a great interview and It particularly struck me the way Ron just seemed like he was in awe of the guy. Interviews like that are rare.

Doctor Manhattan

01-09-2006, 05:16 AM

quote: quote: This thing is fucking LONG. I'm almost through one page and for all the trashing of him they're doing, they've only made one specific accusation and no evidence to back it up yet. I'll try to get through this, but HOLY FUCK.   Keep reading, it's in there.  Can someone "bottom line" this thing for me? What did he say that turned out to not be true? I don't remember the interview too much, but I do recall he doesn't believe in a higher power and therfore doesn't follow the 12 steps. Billy Staples was upset with the guy because Billy supports the 12 steps, so I was behind Frey (The Filthy XXXMas thing got to me). Is the dirt some proof that he goes to church or something?I think he was one of the best guests they have had at XM. It certainly sticks out in my memory as a great interview and It particularly struck me the way Ron just seemed like he was in awe of the guy. Interviews like that are rare.I thought the same thing. Hell, King Kong wasn't real but I'd love to hear Peter Jackson on the Ron and Fez show, I'd settle for Jack Black.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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TheRealEddie

01-09-2006, 05:37 AM

Man, it does look bad. But I thought he was a great guest and this doesnt diminish that he had some interesting points on the subject of alcholism and drug abuse. 

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Death Metal Moe

01-09-2006, 06:13 AM

He was a HORRIBLE fucking guest.  He was on my entire lunch break one day and ruined any chance of getting comedy.  I dont' think Ron was in awe of him, he was just talking about a subject that Ron has experience in.Worst part was he called in and pissed off a good friend of the show, Billy Staples.  Some jerkoff calls in once and starts going at it with a long time show friend, known funny writer and BEST PHONE SCREENER EVER?!Fuck this guy in his fucking ass for coke money. 

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The Nature Boy

01-09-2006, 07:46 AM

quote: Can someone "bottom line" this thing for me? What did he say that turned out to not be true? I don't remember the interview too much, but I do recall he doesn't believe in a higher power and therfore doesn't follow the 12 steps. Billy Staples was upset with the guy because Billy supports the 12 steps, so I was behind Frey (The Filthy XXXMas thing got to me). Is the dirt some proof that he goes to church or something?   The Bottom line is, the smoking gun is more in reference to his book, where he goes somewhat into detail of a criminal history of various levels of crimes he committed scott-free, was arrested for, served time for, etc.  A large basis of his work is at the end of some jail time, when their exhaustive research of his own "clues"(he's somewhat vague in the book but does specifcy the state for his convictions and arrests) yielded that he served five hours in a holding cell overnight, hardly hard time.  Calling into question, if he'd exagerrate(at best) or lie(at worst) about his life of crime, how can you take any of the other wild tales he claims as fact or at face value? 

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Doctor Manhattan

01-09-2006, 07:52 AM

quote: The Bottom line is... Do I smell Smoke?Thanks Nature Boy. One other question. Why is the Smoking Gun after this guy? instead of a normal artcle about this guy's past they have a special part of the web site devoted to him, developed a new look for those pages and even went as far as to spoof the cover of his book (Hand with the sprinkles on it). Why spend the extra time? 

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Sheeplovr

01-09-2006, 08:01 AM

Why spend the extra time?  maybe the smokeing gun is a AA front and there mad at him for takeing them on 


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Billy Staples

01-09-2006, 03:52 PM

Papa Bear is right.....this even brought me out of hibernationsomeone posted "Why is the Smoking Gun after this guy? instead of a normal article about this guy's past they have a special part of the web site devoted to him, developed a new look for those pages and even went as far as to spoof the cover of his book (Hand with the sprinkles on it). Why spend the extra time? why, well let me see if I recall, it was because this guy sold millions of books as I was told and I didn't sell any, so that made him more credible?  Woops, guess notI am not a 12 step thumper, but that book and what i saw of it was so see thru bullshit to anyone with this disease or has been to jail or rehab.it was funny it was so ludicrous in its intent.Th guy who befriended him or some BS...come on wake up...good guest not, i was right and will receive absolutely no credit for it, except from you Papa Bear. thank you.  i am amazed at how many people called  and said they had a problem and tore me a new asshole for not buying this guys snake skin oil.  well you got me as you don't have the balls to call and say you were wrongit's OK, I'm used to itI am just glad that you guys get to see what a bullshit artist this guy is no matter how many books you sell does not make it credible, I believe on the air I called it fiction....hmmmmI'd love to hear that segment, just for that rare moment where I winI hope he gives refunds.  I can't wait for his next book...."cancer....its not real, just stop eating raisins and go fishing a lot, it worked for me"back into hibernation and Matty, thanks for pointing that outAdi¢s gangBilly<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Kevin2700/STAPLES2.jpg" border="0" /> http://www.reelact.com/billystaples http://www.reelact.com/billystaples 

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HBox

01-09-2006, 03:59 PM

In Frey's defense, the Smoking Gun never tried to prove that Frey did not have a drug problem, and even went out of the way to say that they weren't going to even contest that he spent time in a rehab facility. So he still may have recovered his own way from a major drug problem. In fact, there's still nothing to disprove that. 

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01-09-2006, 04:09 PM

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01-09-2006, 04:13 PM

One other question. Why is the Smoking Gun after this guy?=My guess is TSG prints what it gets sent. What I'm amazed at is how quickly, and how much stuff TSG gets. Someone is busted, and boom, someone has sent TSG all the police stuff; it's like narc central.

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01-09-2006, 04:20 PM

i think i  missed this show

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jlehane

01-09-2006, 04:35 PM

Maybe I'll write a book and do the talk show circuit about how I lost both my legs and had to walk using soup cans.

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PapaBear

01-09-2006, 05:01 PM

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BrooklynKat

01-10-2006, 06:22 AM

I still think he was an interesting guest and I don't think it takes away from his book, but the NY Times have called him out on it this morning too:<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/10/books/10frey.html?adxnnl=1&8hpib=&adxnnlx=1136906018-iRfXN9FMqrPvMAQZ99rIuQ" target="_self">Best-Selling Memoir Draws Scrutiny</a> Didn't he say to R&F that he didn't really know what category to classify his book: memoir, fiction, non-fiction?  So I think he did somewhat acknowledge that his story is inflated. This is all Oprah's fault!

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Doctor Manhattan

01-10-2006, 08:53 AM

quote: One other question. Why is the Smoking Gun after this guy? =My guess is TSG prints what it gets sent. What I'm amazed at is how quickly, and how much stuff TSG gets. Someone is busted, and boom, someone has sent TSG all the police stuff; it's like narc central.  Mike, That is what normally happens on TSG. I love that site. It just seems that really care about this case (like I said before, this isn't one of their usual articles). I'm wondering why. He exagerated his stories which I'm sure happens in a lot of Autobiographies. Is there an amount of exageration that is okay? At what point did he cross it?I'm trying to care about this since he was a guest on the show. Is the big deal that Oprah believed his story? She's a very busy woman, I wouldn't fault her.I'm going to send TSG some dirt on Matthew Modine and John Beluishi's Widow. <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=202" target="_blank"><img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=skw" border="0" /></a>

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libbyzibby

01-10-2006, 09:01 AM

where was it listed on the NY Times best seller list...fiction or non fiction? that'll say a lot...do they diferentiate

Doctor Manhattan

01-10-2006, 09:12 AM

quote: where was it listed on the NY Times best seller list...fiction or non fiction? that'll say a lot...do they diferentiate<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/15/books/bestseller/0115bestpapernonfiction.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/15/books/bestseller/0115bestpapernonfiction.html</a>Non-ficition. But I don't think the NY Times decides what the book is. When it's published it's put into it's category. So Doubleday did that. Frey originally wanted it to be listed as Fiction, but had no problems leaving the book as is when they decided to go Non-Fiction 

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IamFogHat

01-10-2006, 09:24 AM

What an ass.  Just write a 'work of fiction based loosley on my experiences' or a 'semi-autobiographical novel.'  Dipshit.

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Doctor Manhattan

01-10-2006, 09:38 AM

When I write my book I'm not listing it as Fiction or Non-Fiction. It will be listed as: "Book" I don't want to hear any shit from TSG.

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FUNKMAN

01-10-2006, 12:49 PM

they should classify it as FRICTION!

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libbyzibby

01-10-2006, 01:00 PM

If he exaggerated the jail, arrest, legal stories, isn't it possible that he also exaggerated his 'major drug problem'? Makes you wonder if recovering than wasn't as tough as he made it seem if he was a casual user as opposed to a homeless crackhead.  You truly have no idea what is real and what is exaggerated at this point really. so I guess take it for what its worth. He wanted listed as fiction?  how did You find that out, as it would make the whole point of his book made up...wouldnt it?

danwrightlive

01-11-2006, 07:58 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/books/01/09/arts.frey.reut/index.html

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cupcakelove

01-11-2006, 10:07 AM

<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/books/01/11/arts.frey.reut/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/books/01/11/arts.frey.reut/index.html</a>
The publisher is now offering refunds. 



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Mike Teacher

01-11-2006, 10:45 AM

the book 'The Amityville Horror' came out as non-fiction and may well still be there; sadly the book describes events that took places in the house that don't exist, some who dug a little found out way back. JKF's book Profiles in Courage wasnt written by him, there's a list out there of famous authors who never wrote their respective books.

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01-11-2006, 11:31 AM

James Frey will be on Larry King tonight 9PM EST/6PM PST. I think it repeats at 12AM EST/9PM PST. Would be nice if he was on with someone who has balls. Dan Wright Live Saturdays 11PM EST/8PM PST TV FEED:http://energy10.egihosting.com/8794

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libbyzibby

01-11-2006, 12:15 PM

I'm sorry, I didn't see in either article where he said he wanted it posted as fiction.  did I miss it?writing under a pseudonym or having a ghost writer is a lot different than this case.  this was supposed to detail a mans actual life and struggles....all that could be documented.  So many people read this and it affected a heck of a lot more people than people who bought houses that families were murdered inWith the Amityville horror, yeah, terrible things did take place in the house, but in the end it was a thriller, gore, suspenseful work of fiction.  A pig with red eyes?  I truly find a lot of what Frey said a lot more believable than the pig storythats just my point....its kind of apples and oranges a bit....not entirely....but enough to make a case that it doesnt belong as a comparison reallyHow stupid is this guy in actuality?  did he really think eventually in this day and age with all the media snooping for stories and stuff, that eventually no one would check out his claims?Much easier to find public information on an arrest than a demonic pig

HBox

01-11-2006, 01:22 PM

<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10807257/" target="_blank">Random House to offer refunds for people who purchased "A Million Little Pieces" directly from the publisher.</a> 

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01-11-2006, 02:04 PM

That's what happens when you buy all your stories from this guy:  http://www.seinfeld-fan.net/pictures/kramer/kramer027.jpg

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01-12-2006, 02:37 AM

<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10809836/" target="_self">Oprah defends James Frey amid allegations</a>

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01-26-2006, 11:56 AM

<A HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060126/en_nm/frey_dc_2">Author James Frey confessed to Oprah Winfrey on Thursday that he made up details about every character in his memoir "A Million Little Pieces" and the talk show host apologized to her viewers, saying she felt "duped." The audience then began shouting "And boom goes the dynamite"</A>

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Terragen

01-29-2006, 10:02 AM

Oprah orchestrated the whole thing with her fat evil. She propped this thing up as a TRUE STORY then tears him down when she's caught. And the question is: WHO CARES if its true or not, the point is in the story you weak-minded sheep! Books are NEVER 100% truth, its subjective. People still think religious books are literal, so I guess if something is written, it MUST be true...These endless public executions by television celebrities, deciding on eachothers royal fates, and we just pony up all kinds of cash for this moralistic, self-help tripe. Makes me wanna puke like Earl and Fezzy watching ass-sausage video! Oprah sucks

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01-29-2006, 10:17 AM

quote:they should classify it as FRICTION!

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