View Full Version : Racism on the Ron and Fez Show
samnyc
01-25-2006, 05:29 AM
<p>The boys need to end their passive acceptance of people who call in with the n word. It's offensive, providing the wrong precedent to future callers, and dragging the show down. </p>
Dougie Brootal
01-25-2006, 05:37 AM
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01-25-2006, 05:39 AM
cracker bastards!
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FUNKMAN
01-25-2006, 06:25 AM
why do the guineas get a free ride?
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Sheeplovr
01-25-2006, 06:43 AM
<p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; <strong><u>or abridging the freedom of speech</u></strong>, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.</font></p><p>Wich one of those things is Absolutely true anymore</p><p>guys
point is there is alot of the n word stuff and people are saying it
cause they think its fun because they think its part of the gag witch
it is but this guy thinks some idiot listeners are just dooing it a tad
too much that all i see he's saying </p><p><font size="0" face="verdana" color="black">
why do the guineas get a free ride?</font> </p><p>and why pick on the Guniees there just some cute lil furry pets </p>
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samnyc
01-25-2006, 06:56 AM
<p>Thanks Sheepy. </p><p>It used to be an understone to the show were the boys were making a joke about society with the help of liberal northeast listeners.</p><p>Now the southern boys who think they're in on the joke are making the boys look bad and won't encourage phone calls from the "best listeners in radio" which the show needs.</p><p>It's also overdone and disgusting to listen to. Poor Earl shouldn't take this much heat even if no one intends any harm.</p>
Death Metal Moe
01-25-2006, 07:00 AM
Yea, even I am sick of the overuse of the N word. When you use it ALL the time, it loses it's shock value. It can be part of a funny bit every now and then and when the boys are using race as a joke. Just calling in screaming nigger isn't funny.
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curtoid
01-25-2006, 07:27 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>Thanks Sheepy. </p><p>It used to be an understone to the show were the boys were making a joke about society with the help of liberal northeast listeners.</p><p>Now the southern boys who think they're in on the joke are making the boys look bad and won't encourage phone calls from the "best listeners in radio" which the show needs.</p><p>It's also overdone and disgusting to listen to. Poor Earl shouldn't take this much heat even if no one intends any harm.</p><p>You made a valid point (imo). The overdone racist calls have become the one thing that really make me want to tune away - if it was any other show than R&F, I would, but I am always interested in seeing how they turn it around. And I know I'm a broken record, but come on - it's not just The South - one of the "N" callers yesterday had no desernable accent whatsoever, and plenty of times I've heard real, ugly racism spewed from The Liberal North. People need to get over whatever superiority they think they have because of geography - especially with racism in this country. </p><p>When they were in DC they sometimes actually had to reach to find an excuse to use the "Ani Drop." Most of the local shows on WJFK (Junkies, Hideout, D&M) has a lot of people from The Community call in (very funny shout out last week, btw, on Don and Mike when Mike broke into the "Eastern Motors" commercial). With R&F and the Ani drop, for awhile it was used so infrequently I had wondered if it even existed. Oh, but <em>yeah</em>...I forgot...the DC callers sucked and the ones on XM had already been "trained."</p><p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/dry.gif" border="0" /><br /></p>
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Dirtybird12
01-25-2006, 07:38 AM
Right on Curtoid. Yesterday was the first time I actually got pissed at the callers. Seems like one after another - copycat morons who really think they are being funny and shocking. blah - fucking stupid.
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EliSnow
01-25-2006, 07:40 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><h3>Bill of Rights </h3><h4><a name="amendmenti">Amendment I</a></h4><p> </p><p>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; <strong><u>or abridging the freedom of speech</u></strong>, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. </p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">You forgot to emphasize the other important part of the Bill of Rights:</font></p><font face="Arial" size="3"><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px"><p><strong><u>Congress</u> </strong>shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; <strong><u>or abridging the freedom of speech</u></strong>, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. </p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" /></p>[/quote]<img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/Snow1.jpg" border="0" /> Formerly MrTerrific</font>
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EliSnow
01-25-2006, 07:43 AM
<p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">The Ani Defranco joke is only funny when someone says a word like "Tigger" and they use the song. Other than that, I don't think it's funny.</font></p>
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EliSnow
01-25-2006, 07:47 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">The Ani Defranco joke is only funny when someone says a word like "Tigger" and they use the song. Other than that, I don't think it's funny.</font></p><font face="Arial" size="3">Or "monkey" just like Ron did on the show.</font><br /><img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/Snow1.jpg" border="0" /> Formerly MrTerrific
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Melrapuo
01-25-2006, 07:48 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>When you use it ALL the time, it loses it's shock value. <br />Heh...I think the n word lost its shock value a few years back. Way before this.
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Death Metal Moe
01-25-2006, 08:27 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>When you use it ALL the time, it loses it's shock value. <br />Heh...I think the n word lost its shock value a few years back. Way before this. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=Melrapuo" border="0" /> YANKEES FAN SINCE BIRTH!<p>YOu're right, maybe I should rephrase that. It loses it's comedic value when it's dropped more than every few weeks, the boys act all offended and the songs start playing. WHen it's used in a playful way that isn't meant to disrespect a whole race of people, it's funny.</p><p>When some fucking bigot calls up to get a jab in or a fan who thinks this will be his big call drops the N word, it gets old, fast.<br /></p>
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01-25-2006, 08:49 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font>Bill of Rights <h4><a name="amendmenti">Amendment I</a></h4><p>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; <strong><u>or abridging the freedom of speech</u></strong>, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. </p><p> </p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">You forgot to emphasize the other important part of the Bill of Rights:</font></p><font face="Arial" size="3"><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px"><p><strong><u>Congress</u> </strong>shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; <strong><u>or abridging the freedom of speech</u></strong>, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. </p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" /></p><p><font color="#006600" size="2">No, you didn't emphaaize the REAL important stuff in there:</font></p><p><font color="#000099" size="4">Congress shall make no law respecting <u>an</u> establishment of religion, <u>or</u> prohibiting the <u>free</u> exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people pe<u><strong>ace</strong></u>ably to <strong><u>ass</u></strong>emble, and to pe<u><strong>tit</strong></u>ion the go<u><strong>vern</strong></u>ment for a <u>red</u>ress of grie<strong><u>van</u></strong>ces.</font> <br /></p></font>[/quote]
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DowntownRazr
01-25-2006, 08:59 AM
What do you suggest? DUMP BUTTON?
EliSnow
01-25-2006, 09:11 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font face="Arial" size="3"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><p><font color="#006600" size="2">No, you didn't emphaaize the REAL important stuff in there:</font></p><p><font color="#000099" size="4">Congress shall make no law respecting <u>an</u> establishment of religion, <u>or</u> prohibiting the <u>free</u> exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people pe<u><strong>ace</strong></u>ably to <strong><u>ass</u></strong>emble, and to pe<u><strong>tit</strong></u>ion the go<u><strong>vern</strong></u>ment for a <u>red</u>ress of grie<strong><u>van</u></strong>ces.</font> <br /></p></font><p>Funny. </p><p>Just wanted to make a point that the First Amendment only limits the federal government. XM could censor Ron or Ron could censor callers without violating the first amendment. </p><p><br /></p></font><img src="http://home.nyc.rr.com/bkemper/Snow1.jpg" border="0" /> Formerly MrTerrific
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Dougie Brootal
01-25-2006, 09:22 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><h3>Bill of Rights </h3><h4><a name="amendmenti">Amendment I</a></h4><p> </p><p>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; <strong><u>or abridging the freedom of speech</u></strong>, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. </p><p></p><p> </p><p>i was just kidding.</p><br />
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EliSnow
01-25-2006, 09:25 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>i was just kidding.</p><br /><font face="Arial" size="3">I apologize. My sense of humor is off today, lot of shit has hit the fan this week.</font><br />
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Dougie Brootal
01-25-2006, 09:28 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>i was just kidding.</p><br /><p><font face="Arial" size="3">I apologize. My sense of humor is off today, lot of shit has hit the fan this week.</font><br /> Formerly MrTerrific </p><p> </p><p>its cool im not mad or anything.just wanted everyone to know.</p><p> </p><p>*<turns on sad emo music, cuts self>*<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/sad.gif" border="0" /></p><br />
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Mike Teacher
01-25-2006, 09:47 AM
<p>Congress shall make no law </p><p>=</p><p>Well we can stop there, as there are hundreds of laws telling us what we can and can't say in certain situations/settings; ditto with the 'it's my body I can do whatever I want to/with it' thing.</p>
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EliSnow
01-25-2006, 09:54 AM
<font style="font-size: 9px" face="Verdana">quote: </font><p>Congress shall make no law </p><p>=</p><p>Well we can stop there, as there are hundreds of laws telling us what we can and can't say in certain situations/settings; ditto with the 'it's my body I can do whatever I want to/with it' thing.</p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">True, but most of the time, the argument behind such laws is they can curb someone's civil rights, where expression of such rights harms others. The example most commonly used is yelling fire in a crowded theater, but slander and libel are other examples. In each case, the expression of free speech leads to physical, economic or emotional harm.</font><br />
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Furtherman
01-25-2006, 09:56 AM
<p>Crackers!</p>
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FUNKMAN
01-25-2006, 10:25 AM
when are those irish micks gonna put the bottle down?
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Mr.Pants
01-25-2006, 12:12 PM
The term welcher is a derogatory term for a person Wales. English bookies characterized the Welsh as typically not paying their horse bets.
SatCam
01-25-2006, 12:58 PM
or abridging the freedom of speech
Oh, I see what you're getting at...
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ChimneyFish
01-25-2006, 01:01 PM
<p>Ill add my two cents in here.</p><p>I personally think racism is one of the stupidest thought processes in the human brain.</p><p>I'm also not a preacher, so I don't push my beliefs/values on other people.</p><p>I'm not above finding humour in racism. If I were, I would have never started listeng to O&A, thus I would have never gotten XM and discovered Ron & Fez.</p><p>The thing of it for me is, these callers are using the word with no real attempt at humour or relevance.</p><p>Do they really like Ani DiFranco and Randy Newman that much????</p><p>It's like the Howard Stern show, condenced into a 15 second phonecall.</p><p>Ponderous, man. F' ing ponderous.</p>
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Rorschach
01-25-2006, 01:46 PM
long time fans of ron and fez know it is a caller driven show.
until they get an audience that shares their sarcasm and wit it wont hit its stride.
notice the lack of 'comedy pyramids' or long running paul o bits?
its because the callers they are getting cant contribute anything worth while.
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jafter
01-25-2006, 02:26 PM
<p>They need better phone screeners and these calls will not even get to Ron and Fez. <img src="http://www.richstillwell.com/Jafter.jpg" border="0" /></p><p> </p><p>Say what you will about Billy, but he ran a tight ship on the calls that he put through. </p>
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01-25-2006, 03:51 PM
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shodan
01-26-2006, 10:41 AM
Do some of the things the callers say offend me?, Of course. But I am proud to be in a country in which I can get offended, and not treted like a child. The thing that offends me the most isthe stupidity of some of the jokes the callers say. Gotta love the silent response of Ron when they drop a bomb after waiting for a half hour on the phone...
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FUNKMAN
01-26-2006, 11:41 AM
man, did you ever smell an ecuadorian?
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monsterone
01-26-2006, 12:33 PM
<p><font size="7">more n word!!! i want the n word channel! xm 202 n word radio!</font></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>stop being gay. </p><font size="7" />
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FUNKMAN
01-26-2006, 06:42 PM
<p>them yugoslavians can't drive for nothing and you can blindfold them with band aids</p>
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slap_happy
01-26-2006, 06:57 PM
<p> </p><font face="Verdana" style="font-size: 9px;">quote:</font>Do
some of the things the callers say offend me?, Of course. But I am
proud to be in a country in which I can get offended, and not treted
like a child. The thing that offends me the most isthe stupidity of
some of the jokes the callers say. Gotta love the silent response of
Ron when they drop a bomb after waiting for a half hour on the phone...
<img border="0" src="http://six3.jeremypost.com/images/2005-01-26.jpg" /><p> </p><p> </p><br /><p> </p><p>gotta
love the ron...anyone that can make someone feel like an absolute zero
when saying nothing is a God. also love the way he handles the "pest"
element that calls in from time to time. it is two very different shows
ass whacks, get with it..see ya!<br />
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FUNKMAN
01-26-2006, 07:10 PM
how about them eskimos, they talk so fast you can hardly understand them
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legroommusic
01-26-2006, 07:47 PM
Thank you guys for defending the blacks.
samnyc
01-28-2006, 07:59 PM
Fez in particular needs to step up. He is never first to say anything after a caller uses the n word
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