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Tazz

01-30-2006, 06:52 AM

I'm looking into laptops. I only really want it for basic word processing and internet, as I have a desktop for video and music burning. Is there a great quality difference between the Intel Pentium M and the AMD Turion?<img src="http://tazz1376.homestead.com/files/homersig.gif" border="0" />

This message was edited by Tazz on 1-30-06 @ 10:53 AM

cupcakelove

01-30-2006, 06:53 AM

AMD is cheaper and generally runs faster.  But Intel gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Sheeplovr

01-30-2006, 06:55 AM

it's all about Chipsets and Battery life old man 

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Death Metal Moe

01-30-2006, 07:34 AM

When I have the option I go with AMD.  When I'm taking hand-me-downs, I take what I can get.I loved my AMD processor in my old computer but I just got a computer from....someplace....that has the Pentium 4 with Hyper Threadding and it's fucking tits man.

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Tazz

01-30-2006, 08:03 AM

<a href="http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/HP-Pavilion-Notebook-PC-DV5020US-/sem/rpsm/oid/141885/catOid/-12963/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do" target="_self">http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/HP-Pavilion-Notebook-PC-DV5020US-/sem/rpsm/oid/141885/catOid/-12963/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do</a> I think I will check this one out today? Any thoughts?

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Mike Teacher

01-30-2006, 10:38 AM

that has the Pentium 4 with Hyper Threadding and it's fucking tits man.=yep; it's P4 [or Apple] still if you want to use the computer to do some serious real-time demanding crunching, like Pro Tools.Ive tried AMD, and the Intel Pentium M, D, etc. and theyre next to useless for stuff like software synthesizers; where the difference between 3ms and 30ms latency = forever.

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zentraed

01-30-2006, 11:14 AM

quote:<a target="_self" href="http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/HP-Pavilion-Notebook-PC-DV5020US-/sem/rpsm/oid/141885/catOid/-12963/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do">http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/HP-Pavilion-Notebook-PC-DV5020US-/sem/rpsm/oid/141885/catOid/-12963/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do</a> I think I will check this one out today? Any thoughts?

 I've been an AMD fanboy for a long time (haven't bought an Intel CPU since around '96), but Intel has actually been playing catch-up lately. Unless you're going with the new Intel Core Duo chips (AMD's mobile dual-core is due any month now), it really doesn't matter which chip you get. I was just pricing some HP notebooks earlier today and that looks like a pretty good deal.  

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SatCam

01-30-2006, 03:34 PM

As much as I agree that AMD makes great processors, I hear that AMD has nothing on Intel with it's mobile processors. I'd go with an Intel chip until AMD can put out a better notebook CPU.

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PaulF

01-30-2006, 04:12 PM

If battery life is going to be an issue, go with the Pentium M (avoid the Celeron if possible). Otherwise the Turion will have a longer life (64-bit)BTW - Centrino only refers to the specific combination of CPU, chipset and wireless card. Some notebook manufacturers use a different wireless card, losing the Centrino designation, but gaining some performance.

HBox

01-30-2006, 04:46 PM

You should absolutely go with a Pentium M. AMD owns Intel on the desktop, but nothing touches the Pentium M in laptops. Both in power consumption and performance it blows away everything else. I read an artilce where some guys took a Pentium M processor, put it in a desktop, and it outperformed some Pentium 4 models. Still a bit more expensive than the AMD Turion (AMD's laptop processor counterpart) but it is unquestionably better.

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Reephdweller

01-30-2006, 05:24 PM

As others here have said, for with the Intel for a mobile chip until AMD gets their act together on that front. I like AMD chips a lot, though Intel at this point in my opinion is better.

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Tazz

01-30-2006, 05:37 PM

Thanks all for the help. Just another quick question for those
recommendig the Intel. Will I see any great difference in what I want
to use it for? I don't travel much, so it will be plugged in most of
the time. Other than that, what kind of issues are there with the AMD? 

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Reephdweller

01-30-2006, 05:42 PM

I think ultimately you dont want a processor that will work at full speed and run hot which i think is often the case with AMD processors on mobile laptops. I think Intel has figure out a way to make their chips run better in condensed systems like laptops

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HBox

01-30-2006, 06:06 PM

Power consumption will be something you'd notice. A laptop running a Pentium M (Not Pentium 4, Pentium M) will get better battery life than a laptop running anything from AMD. If you get an Intel Centrino laptop, that just means it has a Pentium M with an integrated wireless adapter. It's really more of a marketing term than technology. If you get a Centrino laptop you will get everything you need.

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zentraed

01-30-2006, 07:25 PM

quote:I think ultimately you dont want a processor that will work at full speed and run hot which i think is often the case with AMD processors on mobile laptops. I think Intel has figure out a way to make their chips run better in condensed systems like laptops If CPU utilization is really high, then the AMD's will run a little hotter (but not like they used to in the Athlon days). For the casual user (web surfing, word processing, occasional DVD), the differences probably won't be noticeable. <a href="http://www.laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=17" target="_self">Clash of the Titans: Dothan vs. Turion</a> from Laptop Logic goes over things pretty well. The Athlon64 architecture was superbly designed and without drastically reworking things also works as a *good* mobile solution. Intel had no choice but to rework their Pentium architecture for the notebook and certain aspects of the design are going to be found in their upcoming desktop CPUs (the P4 runs way too hot and the architecture requires high clockspeeds, unlike the A64 and Pentium Mobile architectures).If you find a system config at a price you like, these days I'm sure you'll be pleased regardless of what CPU it has. 

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PaulF

01-31-2006, 01:59 PM

If it is essentialy going to be a desktop, then you can save the money and get a system with the AMD. The graphics performance may be better anyway because of the pairing of the CPU and graphics chipset. Either way, avoid the Celeron - M. For the money, the AMD will perform much better.Truth in advertising: I build virtually all my clients' systems with AMD, but my personal computer is a Toshiba notebook with a 17" widescreen and a Pentium 4 with Hyper-threading (dual core). This beast is about 10lbs and sucks a battery dry in 2 hours.

Tazz

01-31-2006, 02:45 PM

If it is essentialy going to be a desktop, That's a good way of looking at it. It is basically going to be a desktop that I can carry around the house. 

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