2006 State of the Union Thread [Archive]

WRESTLINGFAN

01-31-2006, 04:23 PM

Lets hear any feedback from tonights speech as well as any funny sightings like for example if a senator or congressman nods off and is seen on camera etc.Its good that he is beginning tonight with a tribute to Coretta Scott King. Im sure we are going to hear the words freedom and the war on terrrr and nook-you-lar tonight also

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Dirtybird12

01-31-2006, 05:01 PM

I predict Mr Bush announces that we have captured AND  killed Osama Bin Louden-- "if your a political junky - THIS IS YOUR SUPERBOWL!"-Fox News<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheCosmicCircus/" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/fakeit.jpg" border="0" /></a>

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Sheeplovr

01-31-2006, 05:03 PM

Im going to watch Supernatural and the Shield instead 

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Dirtybird12

01-31-2006, 05:08 PM

We all know he's full of shit,, The question is - Can he sell it?

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TheRealEddie

01-31-2006, 05:24 PM

Is it just me, or does he have a serious slurring problem tonite? 

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Snoogans

01-31-2006, 05:27 PM

for all you people interested in staying awake, the Ski superpipe winter x games final is on ESPN 

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01-31-2006, 05:36 PM

4 More Years! 4 More Years! For the purpose of national security and the war on terrorism, he has the power to rescind the 2 time term limit.  Ask him and he'll tell you that.

WRESTLINGFAN

01-31-2006, 06:00 PM

quote: I predict Mr Bush announces that we have captured AND  killed Osama Bin Louden-- "if your a political junky - THIS IS YOUR SUPERBOWL!"-Fox News<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheCosmicCircus/" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.thecosmiccircus.com/sigpics/fakeit.jpg" border="0" /></a> This message was edited by CircusFreak on 1-31-06 @ 9:03 PM Hey no good commercials for this Superbowl 

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WRESTLINGFAN

01-31-2006, 06:14 PM

Just heard that Cindy Sheehan was arrested outside of the Capitol Building

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HBox

01-31-2006, 06:19 PM

quote:Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms; creating or implanting embryos for experiments; creating human-animal hybrids; and buying, selling or patenting human embryos.

WHAT?

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Justice4all

01-31-2006, 06:28 PM

Damn if that session of congress did not truely look like a house divided. That was one hell of a slap in the face of the president, when he announced that congress shot down his social security reforms and all of the Democrats jumped up and applauded that 'victory' with the Ice Queen of the North (Hillary) leading the way.This is going to be an interesting year.I did like how he was aggresive in his stance to find alternative cleaner fuel. Sounded like he was trying to either stick it to the middle easterns....OR....tell the american people "hey guess what...we are not going down in oil prices so we better find another way and FAST!"

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01-31-2006, 06:29 PM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! The word is nuclear.pronounced: NEW + CLE + ARit's not NEWKEWLAR That is a very important word and, since he is the president of the United States, he should know how to pronounce it. 

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HBox

01-31-2006, 06:30 PM

That was one hell of a slap in the face of the president, when he announced that congress shot down his social security reforms and all of the Democrats jumped up and applauded that 'victory' with the Ice Queen of the North (Hillary) leading the way.

Now I wish I watched it. That's the best thing I've heard all day.

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tele7

01-31-2006, 06:37 PM

quote: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! The word is nuclear.pronounced: NEW + CLE + ARit's not NEWKEWLAR That is a very important word and, since he is the president of the United States, he should know how to pronounce it. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=chestermoonrock" border="0" /> I can't believe someone has'nt sat him down and told him how to pronounce it correctly yet.  

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HBox

01-31-2006, 06:43 PM

God told him that's how you pronounce nuclear.

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Stankfoot

01-31-2006, 06:51 PM

[sigh] This kinda thing makes me wish the boys were still on nights so they could do a "simulcast". Those used to be great! Not much to simulcast middays......    

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01-31-2006, 06:54 PM

Bush just messed with the wrong special-interest group. As we speak Centaurs are organizing a massive protest, and they are PISSED.

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Dudeman

01-31-2006, 07:10 PM

White House Press Briefing with Ari Fleischer, <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/briefings/20010507.html">5/7/01</a>:

QUESTION: Does the President believe that, given the
amount of energy Americans consume per capita, how much it exceeds any
other citizen in any other country in the world, does the President
believe we need to correct our lifestyles to address the energy problem?

FLEISCHER: That’s a big no. The President believes that it’s an American way of life.

-I'll log off now, and listen to your
response.-

Greggie44

01-31-2006, 10:07 PM

Dudeman, he's the same guy who attacked Gore for wanting to replace the internal combustion engine.  He ridiculed the notion like it was crazy talk.

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01-31-2006, 10:36 PM

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FMJeff

02-01-2006, 12:13 AM

quote:  quote: Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms; creating or implanting embryos for experiments; creating human-animal hybrids; and buying, selling or patenting human embryos. WHAT?  <img src="http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4544/newsig2ki.jpg" border="0" />This message was edited by HBox on 1-31-06 @ 10:19 PM Well he's right..there have been experiments with mice and other animals fused with human dna...i believe they even grew an ear on a mouse, if memory recalls... Well he's right..there have been experiments with mice and other animals fused with human dna...i believe they even grew an ear on a mouse, if memory recalls...

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02-01-2006, 12:23 AM

quote: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! The word is nuclear.pronounced: NEW + CLE + ARit's not NEWKEWLAR That is a very important word and, since he is the president of the United States, he should know how to pronounce it. <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=chestermoonrock" border="0" /> So should lots of members of Congress.  Watch C-SPAN sometime and hear the English language get butchered. 

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02-01-2006, 01:17 AM

<a href="http://www.answers.com/nuclear&r=67" target="_self">Nuclear</a><a href="http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/n/n0184900.html" target="_blank">Nuclear2</a>Both with a <img height="21" src="http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/pron.jpg" width="13" border="0" />But <a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/nuclear" target="_blank">this one</a> has Nuclear in 3 different pronunciations that has one that says it as NEWK YOU LAR, which I do not agree with.  I say it as NEW-CLEAR.  The way Bush says it and others from the West, seems to switch around the Y sound in an odd part of the word.  I use to know a guy that was brought up around here and called Aluminum: al-YOU-minum, but everyone I know says it like: al-OO-minum.

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02-01-2006, 01:24 AM

quote: quote:  quote: Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms; creating or implanting embryos for experiments; creating human-animal hybrids; and buying, selling or patenting human embryos. WHAT?  "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Presidential candidate George W. Bush, Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000      

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booster11373

02-01-2006, 04:59 AM

Every President since Carter has said we need to end our need of Foreign oil (that I can remeber), And yet gas prices are at a all time high and automobile MPG rates are just lousy so clearly its just bullshit

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Dirtybird12

02-01-2006, 05:56 AM

quote: That was one hell of a slap in the face of the president, when he announced that congress shot down his social security reforms and all of the Democrats jumped up and applauded that 'victory' with the Ice Queen of the North (Hillary) leading the way. Hillary was shooting him some NASTY looks all night 

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landarch

02-01-2006, 06:00 AM

I saw Hillary once in person.  Seems to me nasty is the only look she can give.  What a dog.

curtoid

02-01-2006, 06:02 AM

quote: Every President since Carter has said we need to end our need of Foreign oil (that I can remeber), And yet gas prices are at a all time high and automobile MPG rates are just lousy so clearly its just bullshit  If Reagan hadn't slowed progress and funding of environmental innovations and and shit-canned laws established in last months of Carter presidency, we would be in amazing shape today. President Carter was the only President in 30 years who actually tried to do things to reduce our dependency on foreign oil. 

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curtoid

02-01-2006, 06:13 AM

quote: I saw Hillary once in person.  Seems to me nasty is the only look she can give.  What a dog. The only time I saw Hillary in person was at a one year anniversary for 9/11 with survivors, family members and rescue workers, and not only did she give a brilliantly moving, unscripted speach, but she came across (even to the "Clinton Haters" that were there) as being very humble, down to earth and caring. <img height="240" src="http://www.rp-online.de/layout/fotos/303x241/HILLARY_CLINTON_3KETO_9UD3ee4d7ea0014.jpg" width="303" border="0" />And just think...in 3 years she will be giving this speach! 

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DarkHippie

02-01-2006, 06:32 AM

I can't believe someone has'nt sat him down and told him how to pronounce it correctly yet.  Someone must have told him by now.  He just refuses to listen because W IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!

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02-01-2006, 03:54 PM

Bush, last night:

And to keep America competitive, one commitment is necessary above all: We must continue to lead the world in human talent and creativity. Our greatest advantage in the world has always been our educated, hardworking, ambitious people, and we are going to keep that edge.

Our government has a responsibility to help provide health care for the poor and the elderly, and we are meeting that responsibility.

For all Americans -- for all Americans -- we must confront the rising cost of care, strengthen the doctor-patient relationship, and help people afford the insurance coverage they need.

Bush, today:

The House on Wednesday narrowly approved Congress' first attempt in eight years to slow the growth of benefit programs like Medicaid and student loan subsidies, sending the measure to President Bush.

The bill passed by a vote of 216-214, largely along party lines. Republicans hailed the five-year, $39 billion budget-cutting bill as an important first step to restoring discipline on spending. Democrats attacked the measure as an assault on college students and Medicaid patients and said powerful Washington lobbyists had too much influence on it.

The measure is a leftover item from the GOP fall agenda. Bush is eager to sign it into law.

Less than 24 hours. A record, even for him.

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FUNKMAN

02-01-2006, 04:17 PM

from the parts of the speech that i saw and heard i have to say i agree with alot of his philosophies regarding how to fight terrorism. taking the fight to the terrorist. i just feel he was wrong going into Iraq and he still defends the decision.another observation and i don't mean to be cruel and critical but i just shake my head whenever he speaks and the trouble he has expressing thoughts and finding words. i mainly think that because he is a Yale graduate and it just gives me the impression he 'skated or cheated' through school. 

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Bulldogcakes

02-01-2006, 05:55 PM

quote:Bush, last night:

quote:And to keep America competitive, one commitment is necessary above all: We must continue to lead the world in human talent and creativity. Our greatest advantage in the world has always been our educated, hardworking, ambitious people, and we are going to keep that edge.

quote:Our government has a responsibility to help provide health care for the poor and the elderly, and we are meeting that responsibility.

For all Americans -- for all Americans -- we must confront the rising cost of care, strengthen the doctor-patient relationship, and help people afford the insurance coverage they need.

Bush, today:

quote:The House on Wednesday narrowly approved Congress’ first attempt in eight years to slow the growth of benefit programs like Medicaid and student loan subsidies, sending the measure to President Bush.

The bill passed by a vote of 216-214, largely along party lines. Republicans hailed the five-year, $39 billion budget-cutting bill as an important first step to restoring discipline on spending. Democrats attacked the measure as an assault on college students and Medicaid patients and said powerful Washington lobbyists had too much influence on it.

The measure is a leftover item from the GOP fall agenda. Bush is eager to sign it into law.

Less than 24 hours. A record, even for him. H-Box please. We're talking about a TWO TRILLION dollar federal budget. 39 Billion over 5 years is not even worth talking about. To put it better terms, the Feds will be spending roughly 11,000 billion dollars and cutting 39 billion. It's a joke. And thanks to a jump in coporate earnings (for all of you big business bashers) the Federal budget is now running a small surplus. Good things can happen when you actually let businesses make money. Unless of course, they're oil companies. Then even so-called republicans like Specter will start talking about "windfall profit taxes". 

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HBox

02-01-2006, 06:23 PM

H-Box please. We're talking about a TWO TRILLION dollar federal budget. 39 Billion over 5 years is not even worth talking about. To put it better terms, the Feds will be spending roughly 11,000 billion dollars and cutting 39 billion. It's a joke.

And thanks to a jump in coporate earnings (for all of you big business bashers) the Federal budget is now running a small surplus. Good things can happen when you actually let businesses make money. Unless of course, they're oil companies. Then even so-called republicans like Specter will start talking about "windfall profit taxes".

There's no federal budget surplus. There's still a massive shortfall, numbers just came in slightly better than expected. And I wouldn't put it past this administration to lowball projections just so they can look good.

As far as the cuts, I read elsewhere that the Medicaid cut wll result in 100,000 people dropped from eligibility. And this isn't the first time federal college aid has been cut, and I can say that from personal experience.

As far as the huge deficit, that hasn't stopped Bush from not only pushing to keep the huge tax cuts that caused the deficit in the first place. Hell no, he keeps pushing for more.

But really, this is about pointing out his hypocrisy. Of course, most politicians do it and barely anybody is buying his shit anymore, but rarely do you catch a guy saying one thing one day and doing the opposite bot even 24 hours later.

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02-01-2006, 06:57 PM

but rarely do you catch a guy saying one thing one day and doing the opposite bot even 24 hours later. Rarely?!?  H-buddy, have you forgotten who you're talking about?GWB - Last nightBreakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal:  to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025.  (Applause.)  By applying the talent and technology of America, this country can dramatically improve our environment, move beyond a petroleum-based economy, and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past.  (Applause.) <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/stateoftheunion/2006/index.html">http://www.whitehouse.gov/stateoftheunion/2006/index.html</a>GWB's Energy Secretary and Chief Economic Adviser - TodayWASHINGTON - One day after President Bush vowed to reduce America's dependence on Middle East oil by cutting imports from there 75 percent by 2025, his energy secretary and national economic adviser said Wednesday that the president didn't mean it literally.<a href="http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/13767738.htm?source=rss&channel=krwashington_nation">http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/13767738.htm?source=rss&channel=krwashington_natio n</a>I wish I was making this up. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/sad.gif" border="0" />

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HBox

02-01-2006, 06:58 PM

Anybody remember hydrogen cars? Did anything ever come out of that one?

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furie

02-01-2006, 07:19 PM

quote:Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms; creating or implanting embryos for experiments; creating human-animal hybrids; and buying, selling or patenting human embryos.

WHAT?

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02-02-2006, 02:55 AM

quote:There's no federal budget surplus. <a title="Story" target="_self" href="http://www.redorbit.com/news/business/355203/corporate_taxes_govt_spending_hit_records/">Story</a> quote:WASHINGTON - The federal government posted the first budget surplus
for December in three years as corporate tax payments hit an all-time
high, helping offset a record level for spending, the Treasury
Department reported Thursday. The department said in its
monthly budget report that government receipts surpassed spending by
$10.98 billion last month. A year ago, the government ran a deficit of
$2.85 billion in December. Thats what I'm referring to. quote:There's still a massive shortfall,
numbers just came in slightly better than expected. And I wouldn't put
it past this administration to lowball projections just so they can
look good.
As far as the cuts, I read elsewhere that the Medicaid cut wll result
in 100,000 people dropped from eligibility. And this isn't the first
time federal college aid has been cut, and I can say that from personal
experience. I think a more fair reading would say that the attacks of 9/11 caused the weak economic numbers that followed, and Bush's tax cuts contributed to the shortfall. But thats also considered (by both parties) to be good economic policy in an economic slowdown. By spending money the feds prop up the economy and soften the blow. You certainly wouldn't want to raise taxes during a recession, unless of course you're David Dinkins. I dont like it, but I understand why they did it. As for the 100,000 people (a figure I doubt on its face) being "dropped" from Medicare, you made no reference to why they're being "dropped" and if they're being shifted to one of the new plans. Or if they simply earn too much. quote:As far as the huge deficit, that hasn't stopped Bush from not only
pushing to keep the huge tax cuts that caused the deficit in the first
place. Hell no, he keeps pushing for more. No he's not. He's referring to the tax cuts they already passed, and wants them to be made permenant. And if anyone argues against tax cuts, than the next logical step is to make the arguement that the Feds dont spend enough money (2+ trillion) and really need to spend more. AND that the lovely politicians we send there should be the ones spending it. No thanks, I'll spend my money myself. 

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02-02-2006, 03:24 AM

Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms; creating or implanting embryos for experiments; creating human-animal hybrids; and buying, selling or patenting human embryos.=To clarify the 'What?'=LONDON, England -- British scientists are seeking permission to create hybrid embryos by fusing human cells with rabbit eggs.The scientists want to use the embryos to produce stem cells that carry genetic defects. Studying those stem cells could help understand a number of currently incurable diseases in humans.Although made of rabbit cell material, scientists say the embryos would be controlled by human DNA.They would not be allowed to grow beyond an early stage in the laboratory, and would only be used to investigate stem cell development, genetic defects and disease, they say.Legal experts say it is not clear whether the embryos would be regarded in law as rabbit or human.<a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/01/13/rabbit.human/" target="_blank">Link to full article</a>

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02-02-2006, 05:08 AM

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02-02-2006, 07:32 AM

Nice Altamont shot, AJ; I just re-re-re-re watched 'Gimme Shelter'

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02-02-2006, 07:48 AM

quote:  GWB - Last night quote: Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal:  to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025.  (Applause.)  By applying the talent and technology of America, this country can dramatically improve our environment, move beyond a petroleum-based economy, and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past.  (Applause.)  <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/stateoftheunion/2006/index.html">http://www.whitehouse.gov/stateoftheunion/2006/index.html</a>GWB's Energy Secretary and Chief Economic Adviser - Todayquote: WASHINGTON - One day after President Bush vowed to reduce America's dependence on Middle East oil by cutting imports from there 75 percent by 2025, his energy secretary and national economic adviser said Wednesday that the president didn't mean it literally.  <a href="http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/13767738.htm?source=rss&channel=krwashington_nation">http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/13767738.htm?source=rss&channel=krwashington_natio n</a>I wish I was making this up. <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/sad.gif" border="0" />UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLEHow can anyone stand by this man and his administration?I'm not taking about Republican policies.  I'm taking about the man and the administration.It's one constant lie.At this point, if you still stand by this guy, you seriously need to take a look at yourself.  

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02-02-2006, 07:56 AM

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02-02-2006, 08:06 AM

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Greggie44

02-02-2006, 08:18 AM

Asked why the president used the words "the Middle East" when he didn't really mean them, one administration official said Bush wanted to dramatize the issue in a way that "every American sitting out there listening to the speech understands."<a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/stateoftheunion/2006/index.html">http://www.whitehouse.gov/stateoftheunion/2006/index.html</a>Looks like James Frey found some political work.  I missed the part where Bush bitch slapped some terrists. 

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02-02-2006, 08:31 AM

quote: quote:There's no federal budget surplus. quote:WASHINGTON - The federal government posted the first budget surplus
for December in three years as corporate tax payments hit an all-time
high, helping offset a record level for spending, the Treasury
Department reported Thursday. Thats what I'm referring to. quote:<snip> I think a more fair reading would say that the attacks of 9/11 caused the weak economic numbers that followed, and Bush's tax cuts contributed to the shortfall. But thats also considered (by both parties) to be good economic policy in an economic slowdown. By spending money the feds prop up the economy and soften the blow. You certainly wouldn't want to raise taxes during a recession, unless of course you're David Dinkins. I dont like it, but I understand why they did it. quote:As far as the huge deficit, that hasn't stopped Bush from not only
pushing to keep the huge tax cuts that caused the deficit in the first
place. Hell no, he keeps pushing for more. No he's not. He's referring to the tax cuts they already passed, and wants them to be made permenant. And if anyone argues against tax cuts, than the next logical step is to make the arguement that the Feds dont spend enough money (2+ trillion) and really need to spend more. AND that the lovely politicians we send there should be the ones spending it. No thanks, I'll spend my money myself.  He passed expriring tax cuts, just like the Patriot Act was set to expire. If you look at the <a href="http://www.cbo.gov/budget/historical.pdf" target="_self">numbers from the Congressional Budget Office</a>, tax revenues were highe

HBox

02-02-2006, 10:44 AM

I think a more fair reading would say that the attacks of 9/11 caused the weak economic numbers that followed, and Bush's tax cuts contributed to the shortfall. But thats also considered (by both parties) to be good economic policy in an economic slowdown. By spending money the feds prop up the economy and soften the blow. You certainly wouldn't want to raise taxes during a recession, unless of course you're David Dinkins. I dont like it, but I understand why they did it.

Weren't these cuts passed before 9/11? I do know he campaigned on them. But I guess given the circumstances that is a fair assessment, but these were huge cuts, and there is currently a huge deficit, and there is no recession anymore. And he still wants everything renewed. And he'll probably get it. And it makes no sense, even if we accept the prepostrous notion that Bush is really committed to making the deep budget cuts needed to make a big difference. No matter what, I don't think this deficit will be solved without some tax increases.

No he's not. He's referring to the tax cuts they already passed, and wants them to be made permenant. And if anyone argues against tax cuts, than the next logical step is to make the arguement that the Feds dont spend enough money (2+ trillion) and really need to spend more. AND that the lovely politicians we send there should be the ones spending it. No thanks, I'll spend my money myself.

No, Congress has passed a few new tax cuts I'm certain of it. Nothing huge, but a little bussiness tax cut here, a little there.

And, right now, if you are not calling for tax cuts, you are standing for fiscal sanity. If you call for tax increases, you are not calling for government to spend more, you are calling on them to actually have the money they are spending.

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mendyweiss

02-02-2006, 10:49 AM

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Bulldogcakes

02-02-2006, 03:17 PM

quote:Weren't these cuts passed before 9/11? I do know he campaigned on them. But I guess given the circumstances that is a fair assessment, but these were huge cuts, and there is currently a huge deficit, and there is no recession anymore. And he still wants everything renewed. And he'll probably get it. And it makes no sense, even if we accept the prepostrous notion that Bush is really committed to making the deep budget cuts needed to make a big difference. No matter what, I don't think this deficit will be solved without some tax increases.[/quote] Sure they were, and back then there was a surplus. And while there was only a short recession after 9/11 and we've had modest growth since then, business conditions were still weak. Notice that only in the past 12 months has the Fed begun raising rates again. They raise rates when the economy's strong enough to handle it and then they start to worry about inflation. As far as the spending cuts go, I dont have any faith that this, or any other President will ever give that anything more than lip service to bullshit people like me into voting for them.   [quote]No, Congress has passed a few new tax cuts I'm certain of it. Nothing huge, but a little bussiness tax cut here, a little there.

And, right now, if you are not calling for tax cuts, you are standing for fiscal sanity. If you call for tax increases, you are not calling for government to spend more, you are calling on them to actually have the money they are spending. The less money they have to spend, the better. Let those assholes figure out how to balance their own checkbook and I'll balance mine. And H-Box, if they're ALREADY spending MORE than they take in. Why on Gods green earth should we give them more of our money? Because THIS time they promise pretty please they wont take THAT dollar and spend ANOTHER buck fifty? If you gave money to your wife to take care of the house and she constantly spent morethan you gave her and constantly asked for more would you still trust her with the responsibility? Or would you want to take the checkbook back and handle it yourself?   <blockquote />

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newport king

02-03-2006, 05:01 AM

i'm not going to argue politics here, but on the issue of alternative fuel, its a good idea in theory but why does every automaker make their hybrid so incredibly fucking gay looking:<img src="http://www.thegreenlife.org/images/hybrid%20car.jpg" border="0" />

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frankieNJ

02-03-2006, 08:13 AM

<a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/stateoftheunion/2006/index.html">http://www.whitehouse.gov/stateoftheunion/2006/index.html</a>

Mr.Pants

02-03-2006, 12:32 PM

<img src="http://grist.org/comments/soapbox/2005/07/19/iceland_bus.jpg" border="0" />Hydrogen bus in Reykjavik.