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ChildofFez
02-03-2006, 11:05 AM
<p><font size="2">The US has never done any one of these riiiiiight???</font></p><font size="2"><font size="2"><p><font size="2">Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism <br /><br />Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. <br /><br />Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each: <br /><br />1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. <br /><br />2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. <br /><br />3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. <br /><br />4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. <br /><br />5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution. <br /><br />6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. <br /><br />7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. <br /><br />8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. <br /><br />9. Corporate Power I s Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. <br /><br />10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. <br /><br />11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked. <br /><br />12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations. <br /><br />13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures
Furtherman
02-03-2006, 11:22 AM
<p>1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - there is nothing inheridly wrong with this. It's pride in your country.</p><p>2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - well, in the case of our enemies, some of these are deemed necessary. They'll put us in front of a tv and cut our heads off.</p><p>3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - all to true. Case in point: the bogus Gulf of Tonkin incident. </p><p>4. Supermacy of the Military - we do have the best military, but yes, the domestic agenda has been neglected. Just look at the Gulf coast. Our army would be better suited helping there.</p><p>5. Rampant Sexism - No way. We have women in many positions of power. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are not suppressed (although there are too many people in the current administration that would love that to happen).</p><p>6. Controlled Mass Media. Impossible... even FOX News squeezes some truth out of its airwaves.</p><p>7. Obsession with National Security - Needs to be done.</p><p>8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Sadly true. A huge problem. When will people realize that the only reason religion is around is that our ancestors tried to explain weather and natural phenomenon. Nothing else.</p><p>9. Corporate Power I s Protected - True, but showing holes in its hull. But how many people care if they are not an employee?</p><p>10. Labor Power is Suppressed. Please. </p><p>11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts. Not really, unless they are artist yapping about politics, in which they are pointed out, rightfully, as assholes.</p><p>12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment. No... our police are not given unlimited power. </p><p>13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption. In this administration, a big YES.</p><p>14. Fraudulent Elections - Oh my non-existing lord YES.</p><p> </p><p>Some good, some bad... but as of right now America should not be considered Fascist.</p>
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furie
02-03-2006, 11:32 AM
ah jeez, like i haven't been forced to delete this from my inbox 20 times.
And hitler was more of a socialist than a fascist.
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SatCam
02-03-2006, 11:56 AM
Yea, these are some things that are wrong with America... but find me a country with a considerable population who you can't say isn't guilty of one thing on this list.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Oh my non-existing lord YES.
Where the hell do you live?
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Furtherman
02-03-2006, 12:09 PM
<p>In the United States. </p><p>The Presidental Elections of 2000.</p>
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legroommusic
02-03-2006, 12:43 PM
<strong><font face="Arial">fas?cism<font size="2"> </font></font></strong> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/reference/dictionary/pronounce;_ylt=AitPC3p2SPhjBJkMk1vk5aWugMMF?id=F00 45700&path=prons/F0045700.wav"><img alt="playAudio" src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/edu/reference/dictionary/audio_key2.gif" align="absBottom" border="0" /></a> (f<img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/edu/ref/ahd/s/abreve.gif" align="absBottom" border="0" />sh<img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/edu/ref/ahd/s/prime.gif" align="absBottom" border="0" /><img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/edu/ref/ahd/s/ibreve.gif" align="absBottom" border="0" />z<img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/edu/ref/ahd/s/lprime.gif" align="absBottom" border="0" /><img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/edu/ref/ahd/s/schwa.gif" align="absBottom" border="0" />m) <font size="-2"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/reference/dictionary/pronunciation_key;_ylt=AlgfPxayxvUo23iLHYEYau6ugMM F">KEY</a> </font> <br /><br /><font face="arial" size="-1"><strong>NOUN:</strong> </font><br /><ol><li>often <strong><font face="arial,sans-serif" size="-1">Fascism</font> </strong><ol><li>A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. </li><li>A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. </li></ol></li><li>Oppressive, dictatorial control. </li></ol><p>I got this definition from the <a href="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9htfSMty.NDU.EAY_ZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTBxbmdyZWd 1BGNvbG8DZQRzZWMDc2MEdnRpZANGNjY2Xzkw/SIG=12hdsbod8/EXP=1139088557/**http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/fascism"><span class="mainnavlink">American Heritage® Dictionary</span></a>.</p><p>In this country, a fella can do what he wants and say what he wants. If a guy is stuck in a bad job, he can leave it and find another. There's a few countries other than ours that allow this. You get to determine your own destiny here. That's why my folks moved here. That's why people fight for our country. If you think that our country is "facist," I say go to one of those other countries that are considered facist, live there for a month or so and compare. Maybe that'll brainwash you into loving America. </p><hr width="100%" size="0" />
phixion
02-03-2006, 12:59 PM
<p>so if we criticize something that means you dont love it? im sure your parents criticized you your entire childhood they didnt love you? no u criticize soemthing because you love it so much that you want to make it better. that being said bush isnt a fascist these are some funny similarities but hes a not a fascist. hes someone who is so stupid that he really thinks he is doing a good job. </p><p>oh and just a another follow up was fdr un patriotic when he questioned hoovers inaction during the great depression? </p>
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DarkHippie
02-03-2006, 01:05 PM
<font size="1">ah jeez, like i haven't been forced to delete this from my inbox 20 times. </font><p>And hitler was more of a socialist than a fascist. </p>More accurate would be that Stalin was more of a fascist than a socialist
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legroommusic
02-03-2006, 01:08 PM
<p>Hey man. You have the right to say whatever you want. criticize the hell out of this country. I'm just saying if you went to a shittier country, especially when you think that this country is fascist, then you might see things differently. </p><p>If you do go to another country, go ahead and criticize it. go to china. go to venezuela. tell me what happens when and if you do.</p>
furie
02-03-2006, 01:09 PM
<font size="1">ah jeez, like i haven't been forced to delete this from my inbox 20 times. </font><p>And hitler was more of a socialist than a fascist. </p>More accurate would be that Stalin was more of a fascist than a socialist
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I'd imagine that the head of the National SOCIALIST Party was a socialist.
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legroommusic
02-03-2006, 01:11 PM
I meant criticize it within their borders. anyone can come to this country and tell you about how they got caned for jaywalking in some crazy far eastern place.
Hitler HATED communists and socialists with a passion. He was a fucking crazy nationalist. It was just a word, like Democrat and Republican. They are just words, each party isn't fighting in the name of Democracy and the Republic. But don't take my word for it:
Hitler's beer hall oratory, attacking Jews, socialists and liberals, capitalists and communists, began attracting adherents. Early followers included Rudolf Hess, the former air force pilot Hermann Gring, and the flamboyant army captain Ernst Rhm, who became head of the Nazis' paramilitary organization, the SA, which protected meetings and attacked political opponents. He also attracted the attention of local business interests, was accepted into influential circles of Munich society and became associated with wartime General Erich Ludendorff during this time.
The Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Gauleiter Nord-West became an internal opposition, threatening Hitler's authority, but this faction was defeated at the Bamberg Conference (1926), during which Goebbels joined Hitler.
After this encounter, Hitler centralized the party even more and asserted the Fhrerprinzip as the basic principle of party organization. Leaders were not elected by their group but were rather appointed by their superior and were answerable to them while demanding unquestioning obedience from their inferiors. Consistent with Hitler's disdain for democracy, all power and authority devolved from the top down.
Link here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler)
Fascism (in Italian, fascismo), capitalized, was the authoritarian political movement which ruled Italy from 1922 to 1943 under the leadership of Benito Mussolini. Similar political movements, including Nazism, spread across Europe between World War I and World War II.
Link here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facism)
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legroommusic
02-03-2006, 01:40 PM
When team usa is dominating in da olympics, I go fucking crazy nationalistic, son.
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