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angrymissy

02-16-2006, 06:39 AM

Did you actually listen to what they said?  Yes, I did.  I turned the radio off right away too.  Basically they were mocking Bubba the Love Sponge (who is now in afternoon drive on Howards station) saying that Howard was now going to want to replay his show in afternoon drive, and that Bubba would be pushed back to "the worst timeslot in radio" mid-days.  Gross and hypocritical - CONSIDERING THAT IS THE SAME THING THEY DID TO RON AND FEZ.  They did the same thing Howard is now doing. Also, while it seems that Ferrell was a dick to them, they are now saying his show has always been crap, when a few months ago, they were saying how great it is.  I like O&A, but the show is becoming more and more annoying as their egos become more and more inflated.  Pest radio, bitching about Howard and inflated ego's make me turn the show off.  I like everything else.

This message was edited by angrymissy on 2-16-06 @ 10:41 AM

Doctor Manhattan

02-16-2006, 06:47 AM

angrymissy wrote: Did you actually listen to what they said? Yes, I did.  I turned the radio off right away too.  Basically they were mocking Bubba the Love Sponge (who is now in afternoon drive on Howards station) saying that Howard was now going to want to replay his show in afternoon drive, and that Bubba would be pushed back to "the worst timeslot in radio" mid-days.  Gross and hypocritical - CONSIDERING THAT IS THE SAME THING THEY DID TO RON AND FEZ.  They did the same thing Howard is now doing. Also, while it seems that Ferrell was a dick to them, they are now saying his show has always been crap, when a few months ago, they were saying how great it is.  I like O&A, but the show is becoming more and more annoying as their egos become more and more inflated.  Pest radio, bitching about Howard and inflated ego's make me turn the show off.  I like everything else.  Ron and Fez were never on in the afternoons at XM, so O&A didn't really do to Ron and Fez the "same thing Howard is now doing" to Bubba.On the 2/15/2006 show Opie said that he liked Ferrell's show "Look, I'm not gonna lie to you. I liked the guy. I thought he did some good radio..." I haven't heard today's show.I do hope Opie does go to the 50th floor of the Sirius building with his briefcase and visitor badge, sitting in the waiting room ready to beat up Ferrell.

This message was edited by SKW on 2-16-06 @ 10:53 AM

angrymissy

02-16-2006, 06:53 AM

Ron and Fez were 7-11, which was a great timeslot for them.  They can't be 7-11 now, because O&A wouldn't have their replay on West Coast drivetime.  They can't be 3-7, because O&A wouldn't have East Coast drivetime.  So they are regaled to languish in, as O&A themselves put it, "The Worst Timeslot in Radio", where the radio hacks go.Not to mention the fact that for whatever reason, they only got 3 hours instead of 4 so that there could be an hour long O&A "Worst of".  I almost wish there could be 2 High Voltage channels so R&F got more airtime.

This message was edited by angrymissy on 2-16-06 @ 10:54 AM

Doctor Manhattan

02-16-2006, 06:56 AM

I don't know why O&A get hung up on timeslots. It's a 2 nation-wide station, Ron and Fez are on live during "morning drive time" on the west coast (8am-11am). And technically O&A are doing "overnights" on the west coast (4AM)What happens if XM starts to service other countries in Europe?

This message was edited by SKW on 2-16-06 @ 10:57 AM

Death Metal Moe

02-16-2006, 07:05 AM

Of course O&A aren't going to bash Ron and Fez, it's just a symptom of what the problem is here.  As they shoot off their mouths they NEVER think of anyone but themselves.  They bash Midday slots and then backpedal to make sure they haven't offended their pals.  But it's disrespectful and they know that.  WE'll get more of that "Oh COME ON you DICKS!!  You KNOW we're not talking about Ron and FEz" bullshit but they are when they bash ALL midday slots, including Satellite radio midday slots now.Hey O&A, get this "Big News" with Ron and Fez going or stop lying to us.  Shit or get off the fucking pot for once.  Your show is not as defensible as it once was when comparing it to Hoo Hoo.

This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 2-16-06 @ 11:06 AM

Death Metal Moe

02-16-2006, 07:05 AM

SKW wrote: I don't know why O&A get hung up on timeslots. It's a 2 nation-wide station, Ron and Fez are on live during "morning drive time" on the west coast (8am-11am). And technically O&A are doing "overnights" on the west coast (4AM)What happens if XM starts to service other countries in Europe?This message was edited by SKW on 2-16-06 @ 10:57 AM Ron and Fez will become a one hour show at 3 AM EST.

Recyclerz

02-16-2006, 07:06 AM

What happens if XM starts to service other countries in Europe?Given the heat generated over XM's alleged "cash crisis" in the media today I wouldn't worry about that anytime soon.Back to props for R&F - it doesn't hurt to send e-mails to XM investor relations to let them know they have us as a rabid fan base.

curtoid

02-16-2006, 07:14 AM

I'm happy with R&F middays - I'd be happier if they were on afternoons - I'd be happiest if they had a four hour show - in the end, I'm just glad i can hear them on the radio and I really don't care what anyone thinks what timeslots are better or worse, especially when it comes to satrad - others opinions don't effect my enjoying of radio shows."JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T FIND IT FUNNY DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT FUNNY!" - O&A&J (2-15-06)

blakjeezis

02-16-2006, 07:17 AM

I guess there is a genuine friendship between each show, certainly a measure of loyalty, a sort of a camarederie built through the shared 'NEW experience. I mean, like Ronnie said on their first visit to O&A, in the radio business people sort of disappear; it's not often that when you say that you'll keep in touch or work together again that it actually happens as it has done with these two shows. He also said yesterday or so, in reference to ESD, that in radio you make your own way, no one does anything for anyone else. Means something? I don't know.What I do know is that every time O or A is mentioned, is in studio, or on air, it breaks my little heart. Ron and Fez are so much funnier, so much more talented, and deserve so much more respect than O&A that it pains me to hear them interact. . Like the other day when Opie was in after, I guess, they finally did the balls/bees in a jar bit that they wanted to do at 'NEW, as they were wrapping up Opie says, "Beat that, Howard." UGH! I was screaming for Ronnie to fucking smash Opie's face in with the mic. Or at least throw him out on his ass and never let him back in studio. That type of stupid, 'radio war', hacky, morning zoo shit has no place with our buddays, and it's part of the reason I don't listen to O&A anymore. I just don't understand why Ron wouldn't call Spuds Buckley on it right then and there. He has to, HAS TO, be saying to himself, "Jesus, why do I have to put up with this unfunny douchebag." I guess he must really like him, because I can't believe he thinks he's funny. 

This message was edited by blakjeezis on 2-16-06 @ 11:21 AM

jlehane

02-16-2006, 07:49 AM

Let's say that O&A and R&F just have their hands tied and can't reveal that things will change for the better soon.BEE kind ! I can handle that.Sure ,right now it sucks to miss shows and snooze thru replays.The whole solution will be found,just not as soon as we all hoped for.Look on the positive side,that something like Oprah signing to XM will also help xm 202 and the remedy will come BEEfore ya know it.                                                                                                                              Harry getting replaced by East Side Dave was just the beginning of the revolution that Ron revealed to Schitzo Bill.No-one suspects that Schitzo Bill is BEEHIND the revolution.He sees the BEEKEEPER. Isn't that enough?

BlutoWVU

02-16-2006, 09:33 AM

The hosts don't know me from adam, so there is no way i am going to act like i know what is going on. I just started the thread because something was said, and i don't think i took it out of context because i didn't comment on it, just stated.the preference between the shows can be boiled down to high octane, outrageous humorsatire, irony, more so thinking

Reephdweller

02-16-2006, 11:53 AM

I like O&A, but the show is becoming more and more annoying as their egos become more and more inflated.I agree, I have an odd feeling that something is going on behind the scenes that is distracting them or has caused them to lose their edge.

Tenbatsuzen

02-16-2006, 01:18 PM

Just as a thought - and I don't know anything - perhaps R&F being in mid-days and being a three hour show was out of O&A's hands.Perhaps when first presented with the Golden Ticket concept, they had an idea of eventually moving R&F to a different slot when they got a third show to fill the time.Perhaps they were promised another channel to have replays on.I don't know how much control O&A have over their own careers and creative content on the channel.  Remember, their initial contract with XM is year-to-year, which kind of says to me that it was an incentive-based contract with a bunch of outs for XM in case the shit hit the fan again.  (And honestly, O&A didn't have that much bargaining power.)Maybe washington sucked so much for Ron and Fez that they would do anything to get out of JFK - including taking the midday slot for three hours, with the promise of something better down the road.  R&F did in fact have control of where they went, as opposed to O&A, who had Sirius, XM, or Fareid's small-market Citadel deal.A lot of you want to think that O&A control everything like they did on the WNEW days.  And maybe that is the case, but maybe it's not.  A lot of people may not be fans of O&A, specifically Parsons and Panero - which may be one of the reasons why the Opie/Norton fight was edited out of the replays, as their names were specifically mentioned several times of being proponents against the show.

Tenbatsuzen

02-16-2006, 01:20 PM

Reefdweller wrote:  I like O&A, but the show is becoming more and more annoying as their egos become more and more inflated.  I agree, I have an odd feeling that something is going on behind the scenes that is distracting them or has caused them to lose their edge. Still better than (does some math in his head) most of the shows on terrestrial radio.  Since joining the XM Nation, I only regularly listen to one terrestrial talk show.

This message was edited by Tenbatsuzen on 2-16-06 @ 5:20 PM

Death Metal Moe

02-16-2006, 01:21 PM

A lot of you want to think that O&A control everything like they did on the WNEW days.  And maybe that is the case, but maybe it's not.I think it's not the case.  I agree that they don't have as much pull as they'd like us to think.  This is one instance where they want to appear big shots like Howie but just aren't.

HBox

02-16-2006, 01:27 PM

Anyone remember that comment from Ron from I think about a month ago (and I paraphrase) where he said that they are happy, that people on message boards are trying to stir up shit, that they don't know what they are talking about and don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and I repeat this because of it's importance, they are happy where they are.I do.

Tenbatsuzen

02-16-2006, 01:33 PM

HBox wrote: Anyone remember that comment from Ron from I think about a month ago (and I paraphrase) where he said that they are happy, that people on message boards are trying to stir up shit, that they don't know what they are talking about and don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and I repeat this because of it's importance, they are happy where they are. I do.  Quoted for truth.

PanterA

02-16-2006, 01:43 PM

Who gives a fuck if O&A think its the worst time slot in radio, Ron and Fez make it the best.I just wish the R&F replay would start at 7pm.

Hottub

02-16-2006, 03:20 PM

No! Anthony is a mush-mouthed, back-peddling mother fucker! I heard the replay (eechh) again. I'll probably be "banned" for saying that! "midday is the worst fucking timeslot you could have."And then someone brought up this fact  to ant, and was "banned"!You had better let us know what "Big Things" are going to be.

HBox

02-16-2006, 03:28 PM

HBox wrote: Anyone remember that comment from Ron from I think about a month ago (and I paraphrase) where he said that they are happy, that people on message boards are trying to stir up shit, that they don't know what they are talking about and don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and I repeat this because of it's importance, they are happy where they are.I do.

Reephdweller

02-16-2006, 03:38 PM

I heard the replay (eechh) again.It always amazes me when people hear something they hate, will once again sit through it. WHY?I've seen it before on this board and other sites. Why listen to a segment or show again if you didn't like it.

Hottub

02-16-2006, 03:47 PM

I listened to that segment again to make sure what I heard was true. Not because it was Classic Radio!We are too intelligent. We have no pests. I can only voice my opinion in the only real forum there is.

Gvac

02-16-2006, 04:00 PM

Opie and Anthony have once again become unlistenable, in my opinion. Their absolute obsession with Stern (and every other perceived competitor) just makes each show a daily rerun. They're also ironically headed down the exact same road as Howard, with daily rants about how every other radio host is a "hack" or "ripping them off" somehow. It's incredibly sad when people seek to raise themselves up by chopping others down.

Ron often jokes that he and Fez are content to fly under the radar and do their "little" show. I've never once heard them bring up competitor's names or start a radio war. Instead, they show a keen interest in their own listeners and don't worry about other shows.

It's only a small part of it, but it's one of the reasons I absolutely love Ron and Fez and their show.

Hottub

02-16-2006, 04:14 PM

Gospel, GVAC!!

Tenbatsuzen

02-16-2006, 04:49 PM

Hottub wrote: We are too intelligent. We have no pests. I can only voice my opinion in the only real forum there is.  Don't be a douchebag.  There's a few forums out there where you can have outspoken or differentiating opinions on O&A.  Wackbag is the biggest and gets the most plugs, because they play by O&A's rules.  Postwhores and others don't. It IS possible to be an R&F fan *AND* an O&A fan and be "intelligent".Do you think I was jerking off over the HOUR they spent on Ferrall today?  No.  It was funny for a day, and now it's played.  We went through this last times with Phillips, Shannon Burke, and more.  I turned on Highway 16.  But I enjoyed the tooling on Tony Danza AND the interview with Jr. and the discussion on cholesterol.

Reephdweller

02-16-2006, 04:52 PM

Ron often jokes that he and Fez are content to fly under the radar and do their "little" show. I've never once heard them bring up competitor's names or start a radio war. Instead, they show a keen interest in their own listeners and don't worry about other shows. I agree completely. I mean I certainly understood when O&A first came on XM and were ungagged that they wanted to get all of that they had to tell off their chests. It should have taken no more than about two weeks worth of dicussions at best. I mean I'm sure I'm over doing it with that, but regardless, by now they should have long ago moved on from Howard. Maybe brought it back up again when he switched to satelite radio and then again moved on. They've got plenty of talent and ability to pull off great radio but they get so hung up in all this shit and radio wars. I can also understand them sounding off about Ferrall for a day maybe, but let it go and move on.

TheMojoPin

02-16-2006, 04:54 PM

Opie & Anthony have become latter day Howard Stern.  No thanks.

HBox

02-16-2006, 05:00 PM

Other than the Ferrall bashing today was a great O&A show. I really don't understand how people can say O&A have become unlistenable, well, at least if they are going to blame it on these radio wars. It is frustrating how much time the spend on radio wars and pest related radio, but it comes in cycles, and when they don't spend time on that stuff they're as funny as ever, IMO. You'd get the impression that they spend their whole show on this stuff all the time, when in reality yesterday was the most I've heard them spend on a radio war, and it was almsot an hour and a half. And this stuff comes in cycles. They'll go weeks at a time barely mentioning these wars, if at all.Trust me, I'm forcing myself to defend them here, but I think this is being overblown. When they do this stuff it's radio poison, and I hate it as much as anybody. And I do think they do it too much. But it's not a constant thing, and they do plenty of good radio outside of it. The Skitzo Bill stuff was the most original stuff I've heard on radio in a long time.

Hottub

02-16-2006, 05:02 PM

Don't be a douche bagWhat?Postwhores and others don't. Thanks, Vinny Vague.Wackbag is the biggest and gets the most plugs, because they play by O&A's rulesThe defense Fucking rests. Thank you, Sir!

Hottub

02-16-2006, 05:20 PM

Goddamit!! I was into O&A the day they got to NEW. They were exactly what we needed. I would pull out the boombox, have the neighbors come over for a couple of brews, and loff and loff.Then R&F came onboard! At first it was latenight, so it was difficult. But once they followed O&A, it was perfect!I waited out the O&A banishment. I got my XM to hear them. At first it was great. But as of late, spending 3/4 of your show bashing other shows.... Oh, sorry!And as for intelligence, look at a thread here, then go to a similar at whackbag.And I'm a douchebag?

Tenbatsuzen

02-16-2006, 05:21 PM

Hottub wrote:  Don't be a douche bag What? Postwhores and others don't.  Thanks, Vinny Vague. Wackbag is the biggest and gets the most plugs, because they play by O&A's rules The defense Fucking rests. Thank you, Sir!   I was telling you not to be a douchebag because you insinuated in your post that ONLY Ron and Fez fans are intelligent, and not fans of both shows. There is a MAJOR, MAJOR difference between listeners like myself and other O&A fans, and wackbag zombies, and then the highest level of asshole, the "pests" like Doug, Aaron, etc. etc. Postwhores, dot net, board planet, CDIH, all of these forums allow you to have "uncensored" opinions of O&A.  This is not the "true" forum as you said.  And I BET you could post an opinion calling out O&A about saying Middays is the shittiest daypart w/o getting banned.  The person O&A "banned" was probably being an annoyance on the instant feedback because O&A weren't validating him. O&A's rules simply are this: Don't mention Spaz, don't get into personal life shit, etc. etc.

BoondockSaint

02-16-2006, 05:25 PM

I just heard them bashing the mid-day slot.  It came across as a Caddyshack moment, "Oh, it looks good on you, though."

Death Metal Moe

02-16-2006, 05:28 PM

The one thing I HATE about this place besides stupid little shit with a select few (and THAT'S ancient news at this point) is the feeling people have in here that they're smarter for liking Ron and Fez.Yes, Ron and Fez is a MUCH different show than O&A and that's why I love it so much.  It is a show all by itself.  They don't pick fights and they just do their thing.But don't act all high and mighty because you don't find O&A funny.  I will agree that this constant bitching is annoying but on average O&A don't talk about Stern all day and don't do this a lot.  There's been months of great shows with hardly a mention of enemies.

Hottub

02-16-2006, 05:37 PM

My name is Hottub, and scroll up 4 or 5 posts!

TheKnicks23

02-16-2006, 07:06 PM

This discussion is so lame.  "Better time slot for Ron and Fez"?Moving
Ron and Fez out of Middays would be the worst move the management of
202 could make.  The whole point of having two talk shows after
each other, is to keep the audience listening after the first show ends.Ron
and Fez have been using this formula for years - Opie and Anthony - Ron
and Fez, Don and Mike - Ron and Fez.  So unless OnA leave mornings
(which they won't) Ron and Fez should never leave middays.In the
last 2 weeks there have been plenty of AFRO segments, and they've been
hilarious.  Removing the AFRO dynamic would be an awful move.Also,
who says RnF don't WANT this time slot?  What happened to all the
rumors on DCRTV from the last 2 years that said they wanted the midday
slot.  What about when management at WNEW told them "they're a
midday show".  Ron and Fez sound happier than ever, and I think
this time slot is perfect for them.

Tenbatsuzen

02-16-2006, 08:29 PM

TheKnicks23 wrote: This discussion is so lame. "Better time slot for Ron and Fez"?    I just realized that this entire thread is rife with pest mentality and I didn't even see it until your post made me recognize it.Pest mentality is taking any PERCEIVED slight of the idol in question - and then blowing it completely out of proportion to the point where it's taken as fact.Absolutely fascinating.

Dirtybird12

02-16-2006, 08:46 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">Gvac wrote: Opie and Anthony have once again become unlistenable, in my opinion. Their absolute obsession with Stern (and every other perceived competitor) just makes each show a daily rerun. They're also ironically headed down the exact same road as Howard, with daily rants about how every other radio host is a "hack" or "ripping them off" somehow. It's incredibly sad when people seek to raise themselves up by chopping others down.

Ron often jokes that he and Fez are content to fly under the radar and do their "little" show. I've never once heard them bring up competitor's names or start a radio war. Instead, they show a keen interest in their own listeners and don't worry about other shows.

It's only a small part of it, but it's one of the reasons I absolutely love Ron and Fez and their show. <hr color="cococo" align="left">

Dirtybird12

02-16-2006, 08:54 PM

CircusFreak wrote: Gvac wrote: Opie and Anthony have once again become unlistenable, in my opinion. Their absolute obsession with Stern (and every other perceived competitor) just makes each show a daily rerun. They're also ironically headed down the exact same road as Howard, with daily rants about how every other radio host is a "hack" or "ripping them off" somehow. It's incredibly sad when people seek to raise themselves up by chopping others down. Ron often jokes that he and Fez are content to fly under the radar and do their "little" show. I've never once heard them bring up competitor's names or start a radio war. Instead, they show a keen interest in their own listeners and don't worry about other shows. It's only a small part of it, but it's one of the reasons I absolutely love Ron and Fez and their show.  late to the party but - yeah - Gvac nailed it. btw - I am probably the ONLY one, but I don't really like AFRO shows. They get rave reviews of course, but it just doesnt make me wet like a regular R&F show does.

curtoid

02-16-2006, 09:43 PM

<blockquote style="">Tenbatsuzen wrote: <blockquote style="">HBox wrote: Anyone remember that comment from Ron from I think about a month ago (and I paraphrase) where he said that they are happy, that people on message boards are trying to stir up shit, that they don't know what they are talking about and don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and I repeat this because of it's importance, they are happy where they are. I do.  [/quote]Quoted for truth.Or as the kids like to say "QFT" (there's your answer Perry, better late than never). ACTUALLY - I was aware of that out of context reference attributed to Ron, and am fairly certain that if it was directed at any specific messageboard, that it wasn't ronfez.net (coincidently, there was the start of speculation thread someplace else at that same time, whether or not that was what they were alluding to, if they were alluding to anything).[/quote]<blockquote style=""> [/quote]<blockquote style="">Before you get too excited, though, bolding and quoting to make a point, Ron has made the case on the air several times in the 5 years I've listened that he is someone who enjoys where he is at that moment. I'm not trying to imply he isn't, or he was, or that you are wrong, or any of that shit, I'm just saying that when we start reading between the lines (which, Lord knows, I love) that this is teeeeeetering very close to become a speculation thread itself, and there really doesn't seem to be any need for that. A couple of people just expressed an opinion and I see a pile on - and damn it if I don't suspect I'll get blamed for this too somehow.  [/quote]

Dirtybird12

02-16-2006, 09:49 PM

Ive never had the feeling Ron and Fez were UNHAPPY...unless there was no lunch <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" />

jlehane

02-17-2006, 06:49 AM

Just to try to clear things up and repeat myself,O&A and R&F are fighting on the same side,and have always been slowed down in one way or another by The MGMT/employers.In this case it isn't about obscenity or bits,but about a slowdown in a plan to get more equity and fans onboard for R&F,the newcomers to the TEAM,and emphasize TEAM.It's a BUSINESS.The business is cautious ,and now the time is coming near for xm to improve  the R&F replays debacle.I'm no fortune teller,but just listen closer.Again,the OPRAH signing <<<< Guys look at the future,a major signing victory for xm.That has to help O&A and R&F eventually when more channels are opened up .Waiting is the hardest part>>>>if I may rip off Tom Petty.http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/jr333/BigBadMoodJimmyMongreloidNuttyBuddy.jpg