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Produceher

02-17-2006, 05:54 AM

I know that I'm going to get trashed for this, but it's really driving me crazy and I need to know if I'm the only one. 
 
I've been a huge fan of R&F since the WNEW days. I followed them
all around the timeslots over there and when they were fired, I was
heartbroken. 
 
I started posting their WJFK files on my server early on before the
live show was being broadcast underground, and I listened to almost
every show. 
 
During that time I liked O&A but always preffered R&F. 
 
Now that they're both on sattelite, I feel like it's all changed dramatically. 
 
Has O&A just gotten better or has R&F gone downhill. 
 
And it's not Ron or Fez that I think are to blame. It's their show. 
 
When Ron or Fez appear on the O&A show, it's radio gold. 
 
When Ron holds court on their show, it's the absolute best radio. 
 
I just don't get. 
 
What is clear is that Fez's energy was down just before and since his heart attack. I understand. 
 
I just feel that Ron needs more to work with and he's at his best working off others. 
 
O&A have little Jimmy and now Bill Burr and Patrice O'Neal are both fighting for 3rd Mic. 
 
R&F have Earl, East Side Dave, and pick your Intern. Really Lame IMHO. 
 
I really love R&F. I just think that the tie in to O&A doesn't
work anymore. I know their shows are supposed to be different but not
this different. 
 
During the WNEW days, there used to be a smooth transition from O&A
into R&F. Now it feels like they could be doing their show from a
different country. The energy goes wayy down immediately. 
 
I love listening to Ronnie's voice but lately I'll be listening and realize I'm not even paying attention. 
 
Sorry to offend anyone. 
 
Am I the only one? 
 
Thanks

This message was edited by Produceher on 2-17-06 @ 10:00 AM

Death Metal Moe

02-17-2006, 05:59 AM

Yea you're the only one. 

Tenbatsuzen

02-17-2006, 06:16 AM

I think the different energy and feel of the show can be contributed to two factors...Audience and time-slot.  The New York, DC, and Nationwide audiences, along with the time differences, had a major effect on the show.  Some aspects are incredibly positive, some aspects not so much.I'm firmly in the camp that I'd like to hear R&F at night, but who knows.  maybe R&F prefer to be in mid-days.I have no doubt that the time of the show affects the energy of the show.  O&A's afternoon show had a much, much, MUCH different feel than the morning edition.

nevnut

02-17-2006, 06:16 AM

I just started listening when they came to XM, but think they are some of the best radio I've ever heard.I live in BFE Nevada and don't have much to choose from but have done lot's of traveling with my work. Listened to Stern while working in Vegas, Bob and Tom working in Salt Lake and I believe R & F has all those guys blown away.

Dirtybird12

02-17-2006, 06:56 AM

I think the show has been better since coming to xm

Furtherman

02-17-2006, 06:59 AM

I think you have a confidence problem and you have to make up for it by telling everyone how you feel in hopes of gathering up some like minded people to trade head nods and "yea, yeas".You're the loudest guy in the bar that no one wants to sit next to.Listen to another channel if you don't like it.

Tall_James

02-17-2006, 07:00 AM

I appreciate that you used examples and well thought-out argument instead of the usual "the show sucks" lambasting.I think we can agree to disagree.

JerseyRich

02-17-2006, 07:03 AM

Produceher wrote: During the WNEW days, there used to be a smooth transition from O&A
into R&F. Now it feels like they could be doing their show from a
different country. The energy goes wayy down immediately. 
   A different city perhaps and Ron Bennington is the MAYOR!

Hagar

02-17-2006, 07:04 AM

i agree with one of the posts above. i listened since wnew and was also devistated when they left. I think the change you notice is from callers,  there just arent enough good callers who know the idea behind the show yet, give it time (also the screeners are getting better). on a side note i do miss flair, fezatorials, etc, but love new things like earth 2 (thats it) their still the best and are still buddies.100 congrats buddies<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a45/JLehane/BigHagarSigpic2Reduced.jpg" border="0" />

TheProfessor

02-17-2006, 07:47 AM

I can't speak to how the show was on WNEW or WJFK but I can tell you that Ron & Fez is my favorite radio show on XM and one of the few shows I make a point of listening to everyday in years.  In fact, my favorite part of O&A is when Anthony busts out his Ronnie impression.  That said, I don't think the original poster was being salacious, just stating a reasonable opinion.

Death Metal Moe

02-17-2006, 07:52 AM

Tall_James wrote: I appreciate that you used examples and well thought-out argument instead of the usual "the show sucks" lambasting.I think we can agree to disagree.Yea, I'll give you that.  You had a fairly well thought out position, we just disagree with it.  The show started to take an upturn when WJFK was streaming it, and it only got better on XM in my opinion.If O&A blew up tomorrow I'd keep XM for the boys, maybe just the online sub if their timeslot was weird.  I mean if O&A blew up, 202 might dissolve and Ron and Fez would get shoved somewhere else, but I'd still want to hear them.

ChrisTheCop

02-17-2006, 08:25 AM

well, yeah the show HAS changed since wnew. and honestly, i only listened sporatically when i had to download them at jfk, so now that theyre "back" (into my world), theres a new cast of characters that i dont know, and yeah i miss the old buddays of the show (not just the real ones but also th elikes of jan brady, iris, andre, etc...)....but....things change, thats life.the constant is the genuine, natural talent of these two men. theyve adapted to alot of shit that went on around them, and survived, because of this amazing talent. they make it sound easy, but its not. we've all heard bad radio, and its never on ron and fez. and if youre not listening to ron bennington when he speaks, no wonder youre missing the funny. again, he makes it sound easy, but intertwined into his simple conversation, is a bunch of mini references and quiet humor that make me laugh (yes, out loud) at the radio, something i dont normally do.thats the main diff between o and a and r and f....listening to o and a, i'm constantly wondering what i'm missing in the studio. theres alot of sight gags going on on the radio there, including bare breasts, and who doesnt wanna see that? but..theyre always saying log on to the site later and youll see what we're laughing about. ....great. but i wanted to laugh now.ron and fez give you the funny NOW. its not wacky in your face humor (most of the time), its humor you have to pay attention to. intelligent humor, that if youre not listening you may miss alot.

Dan G

02-17-2006, 08:33 AM

Talk about change, I used to listen to Ron and Fez when they had naked girls in the studio, people doing crazy stunts, celebrities popping in, musical parodies, etc...
The show has toned down a lot between the time I listened to them in Florida and now that they're on XM.
The humor is still there though and that's why I'm such a huge fan and will continue to be.

torker

02-17-2006, 09:08 AM

Is Fez still gay?

cupcakelove

02-17-2006, 09:10 AM

torker wrote: Is Fez still gay?
I heard it's just a character. 

 

This message was edited by cupcakelove on 2-17-06 @ 1:10 PM

WhistlePig

02-17-2006, 09:12 AM

Ron & Fez is the ONLY radio show I ever wanted to, needed to listen to the entire
show EVERY day. Other shows are ok, but I have no problem shutting them off
when i get out of the car etc. There is just something about Ron & Fez, and I'm
proud to be in the "I get them" camp. If you don't get them, it's too bad because
you're missing alot.

Produceher

02-17-2006, 12:32 PM

I'm definitely in the "I get them" camp. I promise. 
 
Their humor is not going over my head.As human beings (as much as I can tell) and as personalties, I prefer them well over O&A. I just feel that the show is not what it used to be or what it could be.Let's say O&A's potential is 85% funny. I would rate them at about 80% on XM.Then Ron and Fez's potential is 100% and they've been doing 50% since coming to XM.If I didn't love R&F or never thought that they were funnier than O&A, I wouldn't even post here.I just think they are better than this. I
miss "possibly Gay" fez. This fez doesn't deny it at all. That was a
very funny part of the show. His Fiance, liking the chicks, all gone
but not replaced.It's one thing to replace bits but I really feel like they're just doing less. 
 
Yeah, they do have a new cast of characters but they are nowhere near as good as the old ones IMHO.I'm not above thinking I'm wrong here. That's why I asked.

towny

02-17-2006, 01:27 PM

I really cant write about how the show used to be since I only just started listening to them when they came to XM.  I absolutely love the show.  I love O&A but i think Ron is the man.  I love his sense of humor, he's a pisser and cracks me up daily.  I love this shit. 

Gvac

02-17-2006, 01:46 PM

I give you credit for stating your opinion so frankly on, of all places, a Ron and Fez fan site.

While it's true that the show isn't the same as it was back in the 'NEW or 'JFK days, it's not because of any lack of energy or creativity on Ron and Fez's part. Rather, I think it's because they're basically in a new time slot (I know they did middays for awhile at WNEW, but the "real" home for the show was nights) with a much larger audience. I think they realized that at first a large portion of listeners were going to be the diehard fans and they wanted to get a feel for the rest of their audience before delving right into their classic bits.

I think Fez's heart attack also played a large part in changing the feel of the show for a short time, but he seems to be as healthy as ever as of late and bursting with energy.

As the new audience grows and begins to "get the show" as WhistlePig stated, the show will really begin to take off.

And just one last note: I want you to know you're free to express your opinions here without fear that either Ron or Fez will ban you for saying something negative about their show.

TheKnicks23

02-17-2006, 01:54 PM

For me, Ron and Fez on XM is the absolute best radio I've ever heard
from them.  I've been listening since the WNEW days, and the XM
shows absolutely trump even the best shows on WNEW.  Why?  MORE Ron and Fez.Too
much of the WNEW and WJFK shows were based on producers, callers, and
fans for the big shows.  On XM, its basically just Ron and Fez w/
Earl.  For example, I loved RnF in DC but there was a ton of
coasting.  They did the caller story bits for prizes all the time,
and people like Crazy Jen often tied up the lines.  Also, even
back on WNEW just about every night there was a comedy pyramid that
lasted a good 45 minutes.  On XM, not only do you get more
Ron and Fez on the show - you also get brilliant bits like "1000
Reasons to hate..." "Gumshoe Gang" "Ronaldo".  The XM show
resembles the fastest hour in format a lot more, and we all loved that
becuase it was just the 2 boys by themselves, doin' what they do best.I
really could go on and on...but the fact that Ron and Fez can now go an
hour and a half without commercial helps the flow of the show
tremendously.  I felt that on JFK that once Ronnie started kicking
ass, they had to go to commercial.For me, I'd MUCH rather hear
the boys than even the best Al Dukes/Billy Staples melt down. 
Seriously, since on XM Ron has proven himself to be the funniest person
I've ever heard and noticably since recovering Fez is the funniest I've
ever heard him.

Hottub

02-17-2006, 02:04 PM

As the people evolve, so goes the show. Sure there are people longing for Iris, Andre, etc, but you can't do all of the same bits forever. You'll wind up like <strike>Henny Youngman.</strike> Dice.We all know the gag that Fezzie peaked, but I think Ron is at the top of his game right now! He is killing! (Yes, I am in the "I get it" faction.)

mikeyboy

02-17-2006, 02:17 PM

I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it, and I've been listening for quite a while as well.  I feel the show is really firing on all cylinders right now.

PanterA

02-17-2006, 02:43 PM

How dare you insult the show on the day they celebrate their 100th show extravadanza! You sir have no class.The XM era of The Ron and Fez show has really suprised me. It's funny, interesting, witty, educating, and just out right entertaining. I think you need to clean your ears.

TheQuestion

02-17-2006, 02:54 PM

Has O&A just gotten better or has R&F gone downhill.

Maybe your taste has changed, but I don't think either show has.

FUNKMAN

02-17-2006, 03:08 PM

well all i can say is opinions are like 'you know what' and boy do you have a big one!

spoon

02-17-2006, 03:12 PM

Wait, Ron and who?  Never heard of them.  Rush Limbaugh is the funniest show going out there right now hands down and he doesn't even know it!  But I'll check out this Fez and Ron team soon.

jlehane

02-17-2006, 03:21 PM

Produceher,yes we all have different likes and dislikes.R&F and O&A are apples and oranges,which was less apparent to you as a young puppy listener,when it was all new to you and fresh like a cake when you make it.But if you BUY a Cake and Eat it,then the newness has worn off.The people changed,but realize what the personalities each bring to the table,all specialists with different backgrounds and comedy roots.R&F have been on xm 6 months.O&A OWN the channel as relative veterans,with top billing,and a bigger draw for a younger audience.Think of it in terms of a new first year ever edition of a car...still working out the bugs ,so the second year release is a better buy(better machine updated vs BETA).XM is a great situation to be in for R&F ,and where they belong.Lets say I'm more irritated by obvious things like THE PHONES and the replay schedule,which I believe will both get due attention soon.http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/jr333/BigBlackEarlBlackRockCoalition.jpgIf only Martian Catermen could get XM........

Produceher

02-17-2006, 04:02 PM

I really appreciate all the replys so far. Really. I do.Even the one that called me a "you know what".I believe that there are a few schools of thought here:1. People that actually think the show is peaking right now. (Full Respect)2. People that believe that the kinks still need some working out and the show will be unbelievable again. (Amen Bruddah)3. People who believe that any criticism of R&F automatically makes you a non-fan and is interfering with the show and it's popularity because this is a fan-site. (Even More Respect)I hope that, above all, Ron and Fez are successful on XM radio. If everyone loves the new show and I'm just an idiot, than it's better than them being fired or being stuck in middays forever. (BTW - Opie mentioned that the full plan has not been implemented yet.) Thanks for letting me air my thoughts and I'm gonna keep listening no matter what.Peace. 

This message was edited by Produceher on 2-17-06 @ 8:05 PM

DirtyJersey

02-17-2006, 06:58 PM

I think the show is great these days but I also think its a very different show than the old WNEW days. The nationwide thing is a big part of it. When they were in NY, you would only get tri-state callers obviously, but the southern and midwest callers give the whole show a different feel. O and A have talked about something being in the works for Ron and Fez, whether this is a different time slot or their own channel who knows.

FUNKMAN

02-17-2006, 07:05 PM

Even the one that called me a "you know what".sorry, i'm not allowed to say curse words and i didn't say you were one, i just said you had a big one'opinion that is ' ...must be a strange moon out tonight, people have been on edge...

spoon

02-17-2006, 11:17 PM

Don't sweat crazy Funkman Pro!  He's always a mean bastard unlike me.  I for one would like to hear more comments on whatever you'd like to discuss.....preferably something on big bad blase' Moe.  I love when he makes his topics on himself in the third person as well.  Shame on you Funk for being so caustic to this friendly new passionate poster!

PapaBear

02-17-2006, 11:23 PM

WhistlePig wrote: Ron & Fez is the ONLY radio show I ever wanted to, needed to listen to the entire show EVERY day. Other shows are ok, but I have no problem shutting them off when i get out of the car etc. There is just something about Ron & Fez, and I'm proud to be in the "I get them" camp. If you don't get them, it's too bad because you're missing alot. I couldn't have said it better myself. I haven't missed a single show in the last 100 broadcasts.

Dan G

02-18-2006, 02:09 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">PapaBear wrote: I haven't missed a single show in the last 100 broadcasts.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

Same here. 97 were live though, one I listened to the midnight replay and the other 2 were Friday shows that I caught on Sundays.

spot

02-18-2006, 02:53 PM

I missed most of the JFK shows, but I used to listen a lot when they were on NEW. I think the XM shows are just as good, and in a lot of instances, much better than those NEW shows.

KitN1MCC

02-19-2006, 09:20 AM

i love the show it does make you think and it is great all around . I got turned on to ron n fez from listening to the monsters and that whol connection

fredlie

02-19-2006, 10:00 AM

I think just the opposite.  Ron and Fez have been great and the o and A show has been but a mere foul mouthed shadow of its former greatness.

Death Metal Moe

02-19-2006, 10:13 AM

spoon wrote: Don't sweat crazy Funkman Pro!  He's always a mean bastard unlike me.  I for one would like to hear more comments on whatever you'd like to discuss.....preferably something on big bad blase' Moe.  I love when he makes his topics on himself in the third person as well.  Shame on you Funk for being so caustic to this friendly new passionate poster! You couldn't have a bigger crush on me.  I forget about you after I yell at you but you mention me in other threads?  ::kisses::

This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 2-19-06 @ 2:15 PM

FUNKMAN

02-19-2006, 12:08 PM

Shame on you Funk for being so caustic to this friendly new passionate poster! you are correct sir, i shall go gargle with arm and hammer... i'm a chemistry god