O&A to Replace David Lee Roth? [Archive]

Reephdweller

03-10-2006, 04:35 AM

The radio dentist posted this yesterday...Posted by <a href="mailto:asniffen@computer.net">Allan Sniffen</a> on March 09, 2006 at 18:06:57: First, I want to make this clear... This is RUMOR. Do NOT take this as fact. I did not make it up and have what I think is a good source. I'm hearing that there is a possibility that Opie and Anthony *may* take over David Lee Roth's spot in "multiple markets". Should this happen, they would continue with the XM show as well. I do not have specifics as to the "multiple markets". I know this will get picked up by fan sites all over the Internet so, please remember, I am posting this as something I've heard, not as something I'm stating is positively going to happen. Should this happen, it would be the best thing for FreeFM. They need a big name show that will work in the target demo. O&A will. They have the track record to prove it. Here's what I had to say about O&A and FreeFM back on February 27: <a href="http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard//messages/281399.html">http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard//messages/281399.html</a>Roth then went on Howard's channel and went off on CBS Executives...This afternoon (3/9), Howard 100 News gained an interview with Roth which ran on the Sirius Satellite Radio Howard 100 News 6pm broadcast. Asked if he is afraid of losing his job, Roth replied, "No, I kept my day job." Roth also stated he imagines CBS Radio is "going to hang in probably until the end of the summer before they are really going to look at ratings."Roth said his CBS Radio higher-ups "took great offense" to his tirade yesterday. "Chernoff, my program director, said, 'I realize you were trying to make fun of me and perhaps even ruin my day.' But I said 'No. No. My intention was turning your whole f**cking life for the next three weeks into a toilet. Now are we prepared to talk?'"<a href="http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=184786">http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=184786</a> I bet he's gone real soon. The rumors are flying about O&A (according to Sniffen), and Opie came back from break a short while again and just said "no comment". It's pure speculation, but what are your thoughts if they did two shows, one on XM and one on Krock/FreeFM?

Tenbatsuzen

03-10-2006, 05:22 AM

Reefdweller wrote: I bet he's gone real soon. The rumors are flying about O&A (according to Sniffen), and Opie came back from break a short while again and just said "no comment". It's pure speculation, but what are your thoughts if they did two shows, one on XM and one on Krock/FreeFM?  I have no doubt that Roth is gone, but how would this work?  O&A on a major tape delay?  The day-after show, like Citadel did in late 2004? I don't think they'd do two shows.

UnknownPD

03-10-2006, 06:01 AM

I can't imagine a one day delay on a major outlet like CBS, but it would be plausible to start the XM show on the quarter hour (6:45am) and run a 15 minute delay seems plausible. But, if the past is any indication we'll probably just get fucked and wind up with a standard "delay and dump" show.

TheRealEddie

03-10-2006, 06:08 AM

Yeah, two shows could not work.Am I to understand that a delayed XM show on CBS is possible? That sounds like a cluser-F and really doesnt make sense from XMs point of view nor the structure of the show (commercial breaks?) 

This message was edited by TheRealEddie on 3-10-06 @ 10:09 AM

JPMNICK

03-10-2006, 06:13 AM

It will be interesting to see. O&A have said on air tha they purposely tried to curb their show when they thought they were going to get picked up by Citadel. They admitted it later even though at the time people were complaining and they told the fans that nothing has changed. In the same light, they have also gone on record as saying going back to regular radio was a stupid idea and it will never work and they would never do it. It must be hard for them because no matter how much they love satellite, the real prestige is morning radio in a major market

FUNKMAN

03-10-2006, 06:17 AM

seems pretty simple, go to evenings on XM and do terrestrial during the day. with all the replays on XM it seems you could satisfy everyone.thing is can they conform to terrestrial and the FCC guidelines after being on XM so long. The F bomb may slip out too often and they might feel too constricted...

JPMNICK

03-10-2006, 06:19 AM

there is no way they would do 2 shows, it just does not make sense.  what comes the closest to making sense is afternoon drive on XM and then run that show the next day on commercial radio. that way the time between is not that bad. they could start afternoon drive at 4 and go to 8.

Reephdweller

03-10-2006, 06:32 AM

From the comments they just made, this whole thing is probably a way for them to grease XM to give them more exposure and better money or they'll go back to regular radio...of course its a bluff, but they're playing them.

JPMNICK

03-10-2006, 06:43 AM

when howard is getting 100,000,000 a year from sirius I am sure the boys feel entitled to more than they are making now regardless of how much it is.

MadMatt

03-10-2006, 07:03 AM

Yeah, I see this as more of a bargaining ploy with XM than a legitimate interest from O&A in doing terrestrial radio again.  I think they are going for the security of a multi-year deal - and maybe a little more cash.  The possibility of an edited “replay” on FM is interesting, but I don’t know how they would do it.  Think of the extended breaks O&A do, some of which couldn’t be aired on FM radio at all, much less edited.  It just doesn’t seem practical.  If anyone has seen the MAD-TV skit of “The Sopranos” being rebroadcast on PAX, I imagine it the same way.  Just clipped words and partial phrases mashed together.  Classic!

This message was edited by MadMatt on 3-10-06 @ 11:08 AM

3rol

03-11-2006, 08:23 AM

with the amount of commercials regular radio has - there'd be plenty of time for nip and tucks, also if you ever check out the espn channel on 141 - they air  the same content  that the television staion does, albeit w/o the cussin, and like an hour later than it airs on tv - it could work but it would defenitly be delayed. the boys are exactly what terrestrial radio needs, and they'd score a fat payday - which they deserve.

shea_00

03-11-2006, 10:48 AM

they already tried doing the whole edited for regular radio thing when they first came aboard on xm and by thier own admission it failed miserably so i don't really see how this is gonna help out the xm listeners at all, i really don't think they are wanting to leave for fm radio, because opie said during the whole whore speech that they want to devote equal time to both "women",but i really can't think anything good can come of them doing the whole fm thing exept thier wallets of course 

SatCam

03-11-2006, 04:02 PM

This doesn't make any sense to me at all. Why would CBS want to make their morning show a tape delay show (in several MAJOR markets)? No one would listen. They're better off sticking with DLR, or maybe someone who would cost them less.

On that note, CBS wants their stations to be "Free" radio. Why would they let O&A invade their airwaves with a vehicle for people to buy XM?

It sounds like it could be a negotiation tactic for O&A, but a very poor one at that.

booster11373

03-11-2006, 06:26 PM

<img height="339" src="http://members.sparedollar.com/joejbay/DavidLee.jpg" width="210" border="0" />BOW Z BOW Z BOP DIDDY BOP!!

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

03-11-2006, 06:32 PM

At least he doesn't look as bad as Eddie Van Halen. Woof!

booster11373

03-11-2006, 06:44 PM

In defence of Diamond Dave that was not a recent picture.

more cowbells

03-11-2006, 11:59 PM

I really don't know what's happening to O&A  and really don't care, All I can say is that I HATE this man and I hope he gets off the air for good. <img height="339" src="http://members.sparedollar.com/joejbay/DavidLee.jpg" width="210" border="0" />DIE !!!    BOOKER RULES! 

This message was edited by more cowbells on 3-12-06 @ 4:02 AM

PapaBear

03-12-2006, 12:28 AM

I'm trying to figure this out. Are you people telling me that there is some form of radio other than satellite? On this "non-satellite" version of radio, there is censorship? I don't get it. This is a joke, right? You people can be so silly, at times.

Johnny4

03-12-2006, 03:26 AM

You guys realize that their XM contract is up in 3
months? If they go to CBS, bye-bye XM. If you read the recent article
by the XM exec who left, he basically stated they expected alot more
subs out of them than what they received. That is basically why they
scrapped the extra fee. If you read the recent Daily News article, Opie
stated"Anything we have done on XM, we could do on terrestrial". When
talking about DLR's "vacation" he said on air"I'm waiting for our phone
to ring". He is either negotiating for a better deal at XM or is
testing the waters of CBS radio. IF they leave XM it will be funny to
watch the lemmings make excuses for them. They would have screwed over
R and F again and everyone who bought into their XM bs.

Tenbatsuzen

03-12-2006, 07:28 AM

Johnny4 wrote: You guys realize that their XM contract is up in 3
months? If they go to CBS, bye-bye XM. If you read the recent article
by the XM exec who left, he basically stated they expected alot more
subs out of them than what they received. That is basically why they
scrapped the extra fee. If you read the recent Daily News article, Opie
stated"Anything we have done on XM, we could do on terrestrial". When
talking about DLR's "vacation" he said on air"I'm waiting for our phone
to ring". He is either negotiating for a better deal at XM or is
testing the waters of CBS radio. IF they leave XM it will be funny to
watch the lemmings make excuses for them. They would have screwed over
R and F again and everyone who bought into their XM bs. 
  I want cites for all of this.Not ONCE in the letter that the XM executive wrote did he mention O&A.  Also, O&A signed in August of 2004.  So where's this "three months" stuff?Stop pulling stuff out of your ass and actually cite something other than conjecture and hearsay.

pennington

03-12-2006, 08:13 AM

Maybe they could put O&A on in the morning, move the Radio Chick to mid-days put Don & Mike on afternoon drive and Ron & Fez 7pm - 11pm. Then everyone could be happy and mad at the same time.Although anything is possible, I can't see CBS even considering O&A.  They're toxic, they weren't team players and they will probably self destruct again.Since the writing is on the wall that DLR will be gone sooner rather than later, NY is probably looking for another wacky morning show from another part of the country.  Or maybe they'll move JV & Elvis to mornings and move Booker to mid-days since that's what they tried out recently.This would leave 7 - 11pm open which would be a perfect spot for R&F.  From what I can tell, they were liked within the company and were team players.  Too bad they're aren't still on WJFK, it would have been a natural simul-cast.Then again, this is CBS we're talking about.  They may decide to go back to music.

Johnny4

03-12-2006, 08:16 AM

Daily News: Jan 26 2006, O and A's dirty little secret. David Hinckley

SinA

03-12-2006, 08:27 AM

two month old reference: no link

Tenbatsuzen

03-12-2006, 08:36 AM

SinA wrote: two month old reference: no link   Johnny4 has an obvious anti-O&A agenda, so I'll help him out:http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/385778p-327365c.htmlOpie DOES say what they've done on XM they can do on terrestrial, which helps the case for an XM simulcast.I'm still waiting to hear when the exec who resigned and wrote that letter mentioned O&A and the removal of the premium fees.

Billy Staples

03-12-2006, 09:30 AM

Matty I'm just waiting to see how any of this, if even a speck of itis true.  i have my own beliefs, will affect ron and Fez....once again. I am not going to speculate or throw in my 2 cents how i feel about it, as my view might be a bit TAINTed. This familiar pattern is growing tiresome for whatever reason, what do you  guys see happening? and for the record, I hate these speculation threads, but like good base, yu cant stay away  Staples

Johnny4

03-12-2006, 10:51 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: SinA wrote: two month old reference: no link Johnny4 has an obvious anti-O&A agenda, so I'll help him out:http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/385778p-327365c.htmlOpie DOES say what they've done on XM they can do on terrestrial, which helps the case for an XM simulcast.I'm
still waiting to hear when the exec who resigned and wrote that letter
mentioned O&A and the removal of the premium fees.    I
really don't have an anti O and A agenda. I just like to call bullshit
on Opie's bullshit. I like Anthony and think he is talented, but being
teamed with Machiavelli must be a big pain in the ass. I'm glad you
found the Daily News article. The other article was from Crain's
business. He didn't mention O and A by name, but it left that
impression on me. He mentioned personalities that were signed that fell
well short of subcription expectations. Although that could also be
Snoop or Ellen. The reason I feel it is O and A is that they could
actually see how many subs. they brought when customers paid a premium.
I'm not sure Ellen or Snoop were around under that system. 
<blockquote />

Tenbatsuzen

03-12-2006, 11:07 AM

Johnny4 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: SinA wrote: two month old reference: no link Johnny4 has an obvious anti-O&A agenda, so I'll help him out:http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/385778p-327365c.htmlOpie DOES say what they've done on XM they can do on terrestrial, which helps the case for an XM simulcast.I'm
still waiting to hear when the exec who resigned and wrote that letter
mentioned O&A and the removal of the premium fees. I
really don't have an anti O and A agenda. I just like to call bullshit
on Opie's bullshit. I like Anthony and think he is talented, but being
teamed with Machiavelli must be a big pain in the ass. I'm glad you
found the Daily News article. The other article was from Crain's
business. He didn't mention O and A by name, but it left that
impression on me. He mentioned personalities that were signed that fell
well short of subcription expectations. Although that could also be
Snoop or Ellen. The reason I feel it is O and A is that they could
actually see how many subs. they brought when customers paid a premium.
I'm not sure Ellen or Snoop were around under that system. 
   Now you're backpeddling.  Your original post was posted as FACT, when now you admit this is speculation when called on it.How is O&A going to CBS - as a SIMULCAST - "screwing" Ron and Fez? Is everyone forgetting - once again - that Ron and Fez had control of their own destiny and chose to go to XM?  It is NOT like O&A forced them to go there.  <blockquote />

Johnny4

03-12-2006, 11:36 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Johnny4 wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: SinA wrote: two month old reference: no link Johnny4 has an obvious anti-O&A agenda, so I'll help him out:http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/385778p-327365c.htmlOpie DOES say what they've done on XM they can do on terrestrial, which helps the case for an XM simulcast.I'm
still waiting to hear when the exec who resigned and wrote that letter
mentioned O&A and the removal of the premium fees. I
really don't have an anti O and A agenda. I just like to call bullshit
on Opie's bullshit. I like Anthony and think he is talented, but being
teamed with Machiavelli must be a big pain in the ass. I'm glad you
found the Daily News article. The other article was from Crain's
business. He didn't mention O and A by name, but it left that
impression on me. He mentioned personalities that were signed that fell
well short of subcription expectations. Although that could also be
Snoop or Ellen. The reason I feel it is O and A is that they could
actually see how many subs. they brought when customers paid a premium.
I'm not sure Ellen or Snoop were around under that system. 
 Now you're backpeddling. Your original post was posted as FACT, when now you admit this is speculation when called on it.How is O&A going to CBS - as a SIMULCAST - "screwing" Ron and Fez? Is
everyone forgetting - once again - that Ron and Fez had control of
their own destiny and chose to go to XM? It is NOT like O&A forced
them to go there.   Not
backpeddling, clarifying. Are you the same one who said the Daily News
article was from 2 years ago? Then I showed it was from Jan 26, 2006.
If they simulcast it isn't screwing RF. If they leave it is. Remember
their contract is up soon. I think at the end of the summer(not sure).
Every now and then you have to read between the lines. That's how I was
onto this in Jan. When I speculated this a month and a half ago,
everyone said I was anti-OA then too. 
<blockquote />

Tenbatsuzen

03-12-2006, 03:04 PM

Johnny4 wrote: Not
backpeddling, clarifying. Are you the same one who said the Daily News
article was from 2 years ago? Then I showed it was from Jan 26, 2006.
If they simulcast it isn't screwing RF. If they leave it is. Remember
their contract is up soon. I think at the end of the summer(not sure).
Every now and then you have to read between the lines. That's how I was
onto this in Jan. When I speculated this a month and a half ago,
everyone said I was anti-OA then too. 
   You are really diving into Angry Typing Guy territory.1) SinA said the article was from two MONTHS ago, not years. Before you call someone out, it may help to read the thread.2) The contract is up in August.3) When O&A "screwed" Ron and Fez, do you think they WANTED to screw Ron and Fez?  Do you think that they were twirling their mustaches like Snidely Whiplash as R&F were left to twist in the wind?  NO.Whatever O&A have got up their sleeve, I am sure they have PLENTY of golden parachutes programmed into what they've got planned.  O&A are not out to conciously screw R&F.  The friendship that they cultivated on WNEW and brought with them to XM will continue whatever permutation the shows may take. <blockquote />

Ndugu

03-12-2006, 03:22 PM

haha pwn3d

Johnny4

03-12-2006, 07:32 PM

Time will tell.

Death Metal Moe

03-12-2006, 07:43 PM

Johnny4 wrote: Time will tell. That's the mantra of the LOSER my friend.  Sounds like someone truly was pwn3d.

This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 3-12-06 @ 11:43 PM

FUNKMAN

03-12-2006, 07:43 PM

O&A to Replace David Lee Rothi could say with absolute certainty it is a defenite maybe...

curtoid

03-13-2006, 05:31 AM

Aside from ghoulishly watching from the sidelines, I really don't want to care much about this. The fact that it might effect Ron and Fez has me curious and concerned. It certainly seems like a way to (a) elevate O&A's name out there and (b) be used as a chip to broker with. It would appear to be unrealistic that CBS would want this kind of heat, considering the FCC's hairy eyeball is now off of them, but maybe the shell-shock of DLR ratings is too much. It would appear unrealistic that O&A would want the kind headache associated with trying to produce two shows from the same content - and just as unrealistic as that, it seems equally unlikely that they would walk away from a national audience on satellite for the more fluid and uncertain footing of terestrial syndication, unless they have reason to believe that XM's commitment to them might be waning down the road. I never thought Roth would be there for very long, but this kind of talk at this stage is really ridiculous. Television people need to stop making decisions for radio divisions. The guy really hasnt been given a decent chance at all. If some parts of this turn out to be true, I'll be happy if R&F aren't affected, or if R&F get an improved timeslot or more hours, OR if they piggyback and get their own sydication deal (is Alan Leinwan (sp) still at Free FM in NYC? I always assumed he was one of their advocates). I will be really pissed if this has any sort of negative ripple effect on R&F - their move to XM was on good faith and promises of a rewarding opportunity. I will stay positive, though, and assume that the best is still to come.

Johnny4

03-13-2006, 06:00 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Johnny4 wrote: Time will tell. That's the mantra of the LOSER my friend. Sounds like someone truly was pwn3d.

This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 3-12-06 @ 11:43 PM  I was unaware that is the loser's mantra. Where do you have it tattooed? <blockquote />

cupcakelove

03-13-2006, 06:37 AM

OnA just confirmed that they are working on getting back onto
terrestial radio.  Opie mentioned something about doing an extra
hour to make it work out, and that they are not leaving XM.

Dirtybird12

03-13-2006, 06:43 AM

wow after everything they both said about T-Radio and how awful it is they are willing to go back??? I wonder why?Oh well. Good luck. I think Ron and Fez could make that transition alot easier.

Death Metal Moe

03-13-2006, 06:57 AM

Johnny4 wrote:  Death Metal Moe wrote:  Johnny4 wrote: Time will tell. That's the mantra of the LOSER my friend. Sounds like someone truly was pwn3d.This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 3-12-06 @ 11:43 PM Uh oh!  That was a regular ZINGER!!!!I've been MOEwned! I was unaware that is the loser's mantra. Where do you have it tattooed?

pennington

03-13-2006, 09:35 AM

CircusFreak wrote: wow after everything they both said about T-Radio and how awful it is they are willing to go back??? I wonder why?$$$$$$$$$$.Well, that and they would be visible and relevent again. No offense, but the only people who are talking about O&A anymore are here and Wackbag. Even Stern after only 2 months had to run to Sean Hannity, of all people, to be noticed again.

Dirtybird12

03-13-2006, 09:56 AM

he will also be running to david letterman tonight to discuss this lawsuit. cbs isnt too smart. they just gave the guy who killed the company an opertunity to do another media tour

MilkmanDann

03-13-2006, 11:18 AM

Keep in mind its Radio, noone is really on the radar in this age. As far as O&A bashing terrestrial and syndicating to it... I don't see the problem as long as the shows the same and they can edit it down for regular radio. They're making "pennies on the dollar" according to Howie with their XM contract, I cant blame them for trying to get a few extra bucks. Waiting on the E-lo announcement that "all 202 fans have been waiting for" I think it'll mean alot more Ron and Fez replays. Think DLR was a stopgap while they tried to figure out what to do, don't think they ever expected him to succeed.

stinkbud

03-13-2006, 12:20 PM

Thank the lord for this. I have been bored without anything to really speculate about.My two cents would be that O&A are not going anywhere. Since they made the jump to XM, theier show has been taken to new levels. It is far superior to anything they did on terrestrial, and that is quite an achievement. A watered down terrestrial show would work if edited down to make it acceptable for stanards and practices. I envision a 10 minute delay or something, and if something they do IS deemed unfit for the FCC, they could go to a "safe" worst of bit for that segment or something.One thing they would need to do is adapt their marathon breaks to fit commercial radio. How in the hell can they do 90 minutes straight before breaking only for a bathroom trip.Does this affect Ron & Fez...not at all. They have the west coast morning drive and as Opie as hinted, they are planning something with them. More speculation. Great! EDIT: Woohoo...gotta love the unexpected 4:20 post. Time to join Homer on a bonus round!  

This message was edited by stinkbud on 3-13-06 @ 4:23 PM

BoondockSaint

03-13-2006, 03:35 PM

CircusFreak wrote: he will also be running to david letterman tonight to discuss this lawsuit. cbs isnt too smart. they just gave the guy who killed the company an opertunity to do another media tourThere's no link but this is on Drudge: Howard Stern on CBS 'LATE SHOW'.... Stern goes after CBS in off-the-hook, wild rant during taping; Letterman kept him on for 3 full segments, something he never does. What will CBS edit?...

Reephdweller

03-13-2006, 04:57 PM

I may have guessed this right afterall!

This message was edited by Reefdweller on 3-13-06 @ 8:58 PM

curtoid

03-13-2006, 08:45 PM

<blockquote style="">BoondockSaint wrote: <blockquote style="">CircusFreak wrote: he will also be running to david letterman tonight to discuss this lawsuit. cbs isnt too smart. they just gave the guy who killed the company an opertunity to do another media tour[/quote]There's no link but this is on Drudge: <blockquote style=""> Howard Stern on CBS 'LATE SHOW'.... Stern goes after CBS in off-the-hook, wild rant during taping; Letterman kept him on for 3 full segments, something he never does. What will CBS edit?...  [/quote]<blockquote style=""> [/quote]<blockquote style="">Stern was on for 3 segments the last time he was on Dave's show (last December), and when Oprah was on she was on for 3 as well. It was a good appearance - things actually got tense between them when Dave took offense to Howard's constant trashing of Les by saying the guy is at parties while the radio division burned. It somehow got very personal, with Dave sarcasticly asking Howard how many days a week he works, and Howard firing back with the same and bringing up vacation for the year. They ended on a good note, but for a moment there it was kind of cringy.[/quote][/quote]