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hammersavage

03-16-2006, 08:48 PM

The long wait is finally over. It comes out today. Never read the comic
but love the premise and the trailer so i'll be at the theater early
tomm. to see it.  Reviews, thoughts, prayers here...

Reephdweller

03-17-2006, 02:58 AM

I've been wanting to see this for a long time now. Everything I've seen up to this point has made this look amazing. My only complaint to so far is that I was flipping around last night and Natalie Portman was on TRL and they had some guy on who was getting his head shaved. I hope this isn't the new trend that every time we see someone plugging the movie that someones getting their head shaved. Enough already, we get it.<img height="382" src="http://www.natalieportman.com/picstemp/Shaved-Head-Natty.jpg" width="525" border="0" />

Don Stugots

03-17-2006, 03:20 AM

Even with a shaved head she looks cute.  I will be going to see it on Saturday during the afternoon.  I hate going to the theater at night, too many hooligans.  I too have never read the comic but the trailer looks great.  Also, the trailers havent showen too much and given anything away.  Like the X-3 movie, I feel like I have seen the film already and it isnt out yet.

PapaBear

03-17-2006, 03:23 AM

Reefdweller wrote:  Enough already, we get it.<img height="382" src="http://www.natalieportman.com/picstemp/Shaved-Head-Natty.jpg" width="525" border="0" />   HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY!!!!<img height="750" src="http://muziknews.canalblog.com/images/Sinead_O_Connor.jpg" width="395" border="0" />

JoeYaDeadHomey

03-17-2006, 04:00 AM

i never read the comic either, but it  looks good. at first i was weary, because lets face it the same team that bought us the matrix. yay for the first flick, but the last two >flushes toilet<  kind of a toss up the first matrix flick was brilliant, so im going to take the gamble. ill probably be going today.

badorties

03-17-2006, 04:08 AM

can't wait ... i really wish it came out on nov. 5th, they had the great <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_fawkes" target="_blank">guy fawkes</a> tag line 'remember, remember the 5th of november' -- but, the terror incident forced them to push the date to st. patrick'slooks great, and john hurt seems intense

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Doctor Manhattan

03-17-2006, 05:43 AM

<img height="200" src="http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7723/mask9er.jpg" width="150" border="0" />I can't wait to see it!JoeYaDeadHomey wrote: i never read the comic either, but it  looks good. at first i was weary, because lets face it the same team that bought us the matrix. yay for the first flick, but the last two >flushes toilet< kind of a toss up the first matrix flick was brilliant, so im going to take the gamble. ill probably be going today.   Well, this isn't directed by the Wachowski "Brothers", the 1st AD from The Matrix movies and Star Wars Episode II, James McTeigue is the director. "Larry" and Andy Wachowski. So I'm not sure if that's a good sign or not...

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 3-17-06 @ 9:53 AM

mendyweiss

03-17-2006, 10:11 AM

<img height="147" src="http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-Manson_girls_shaved2.jpg" width="228" border="0" />I'm sure the Manson gals can't wait to see this one

EliSnow

03-17-2006, 10:25 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: Well, this isn't directed by the Wachowski "Brothers", the 1st AD from The Matrix movies and Star Wars Episode II, James McTeigue is the director. "Larry" and Andy Wachowski. So I'm not sure if that's a good sign or not...This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 3-17-06 @ 9:53 AM According to the New York Post, the Wachowski "Brothers" are no longer calling themselves the Wachowski Brothers, but instead are calling themselves the Wachowskis is because Larry changing sexes to become a woman.  Imdb.com already lists credits for "her" when she appears as "Herself"  <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0905154/">http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0905154/</a>It also says "she" left her wife for a dominatrix who left her husband to make Larry her slave.

Doctor Manhattan

03-17-2006, 11:06 AM

EliSnow wrote: ...because Larry changing sexes to become a woman.  Imdb.com already lists credits for "her" when she appears as "Herself"  <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0905154/">http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0905154/</a>It also says "she" left her wife for a dominatrix who left her husband to make Larry her slave.I wouldn't take IMDB as a good source for this. I have heard the rumors (Which is why I put "Brothers" and "Larry" in quotes) but I'm not sure I belive it. However, It would explain why they don't do interviews.I did forget to put in that "Larry" and Andy wrote this film, and that this is James McTeigue's very first movie as Director.

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 3-17-06 @ 3:11 PM

JustJon

03-17-2006, 11:51 AM

Look for pictures from the second or third Matrix premiere and you'll see pics of "her"

Doctor Manhattan

03-17-2006, 12:02 PM

JustJon wrote: Look for pictures from the second or third Matrix premiere and you'll see pics of "her" These pics?<img height="225" src="http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3627/wachowskilarry6fp.gif" width="150" border="0" /> <img src="http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8847/vmatrix3wachowski7xz.jpg" border="0" /> 

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 3-17-06 @ 4:04 PM

JoeYaDeadHomey

03-17-2006, 12:48 PM

well the wonders of being unemployed.  i went and checked out a 1215 showing today. it was a decent movie, they wachowski's wrote the screenplay and got a directing credit. i actually really enjoyed it, but didnt, if that makes any sense? if anything, i am even more curious now to check out the graphic novel. even if just to see that alan moore is right that his vision got raped for the silver screen yet again. oh yes... id still bang natalie portman all bald anyday ^_^  btw.. only two trailers, superman returns (GAYYYYYYYYYYY) and posiden ( a posiden adventure remake) looks decent, for a brainless action flick, kurt russell is too old to be an action hero though.

HBox

03-17-2006, 12:52 PM

<img width="350" height="260" border="0" src="http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8847/vmatrix3wachowski7xz.jpg" />How uncomfortable does that guy look?

booster11373

03-17-2006, 01:00 PM

Rolling Stone had a pretty good article on the whole Wachowski brothers thing including the whole dominatrix and cross dressing thing a few years ago. (it could have been more recent)

DESERTEAGLE.50

03-17-2006, 05:41 PM

V stand for other things than Vendetter.

monsterone

03-17-2006, 06:19 PM

HBox wrote:  <img width="350" height="260" border="0" src="http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8847/vmatrix3wachowski7xz.jpg" /> How uncomfortable does that guy look?    is "she" showing how big the marital aid is to break-in "her" newly fashioned vag?

FMJeff

03-18-2006, 09:40 PM

I thought the movie was extremely well done...I don't know what Alan Moore's problem was. It was a pretty faithful adaptation, IMHO. Hugo Weaving was incredible, and I have nothing but respect for Natalie Portman's performance. My only issue was the totalitaranism...maybe it's just me but with the lessons of WWII, Serbia, Nigeria, Cambodia, etc, I just don't see how a country like England could ever accept such a regime like that...I guess it's an interesting point to debate...could dictatorships rise from the fallen ashes of established democratic superpowers? It's troubling, especially when you consider the issues troubling our own time that were reflected in the film...the intolerance toward homosexuality, pandemic viruses, government influencing media....One wonders if the seeds of fear and hatred could topple this country...Anyway I thought the movie raised some interesting questions. The fight scenes had purposes, and I found myself moved by each and every one. Great film. Good questions.

East Side Dave

03-19-2006, 04:02 AM

I liked about it when the music went off and stuff started blowing up. Best part, man.

TheMojoPin

03-19-2006, 05:04 AM

I don't know what Alan Moore's problem was.Well, for one, he's stated long ago he doesn't want anything to do with films based on his books.  He doesn't take any money, and gives it all to anyone he worked with on the books.  What pissed him off here is that Joel Silver came out and blatantly said that Moore had read the screenplay and said he liked it, and nothing of the sort had actually happened.  Moore asked for an apology and a retraction, and he didn't get one.  In short, he doesn't care what people do to his books as films...he views them as completely seperate entities that he has nothing to do with.  He was just pissed this time that someone was putting words into his mouth over the subject.

FMJeff

03-19-2006, 03:20 PM

TheMojoPin wrote:  I don't know what Alan Moore's problem was.  Well, for one, he's stated long ago he doesn't want anything to do with films based on his books.  He doesn't take any money, and gives it all to anyone he worked with on the books.  What pissed him off here is that Joel Silver came out and blatantly said that Moore had read the screenplay and said he liked it, and nothing of the sort had actually happened.  Moore asked for an apology and a retraction, and he didn't get one.  In short, he doesn't care what people do to his books as films...he views them as completely seperate entities that he has nothing to do with.  He was just pissed this time that someone was putting words into his mouth over the subject.Ah, I see. I thought he just didn't want his name associated with what he thought was crap. As crap goes, it could've been shittier, trust me. See Spawn.

Don Stugots

03-19-2006, 03:40 PM

I love it. I didint think that a mask can convey any emotion, but i was wrong. wow. I didnt read the book but i will now.

sr71blackbird

03-19-2006, 03:42 PM

Are people who change their sex considered "gay"?

INFOSTUD

03-19-2006, 04:15 PM

Great Flick!!!!  I thought of alot of the dialogue from V was powerful.  I especially liked the final knife fight scene in the old London Underground.

SpicyMcHaggis

03-19-2006, 04:20 PM

Does anyone else think that V was Valerie the lesbian actress who's note was in the cell only to be mutated with steriods and chemicals and used her acting skills to sound like Hugo Weaving ?

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INFOSTUD

03-19-2006, 05:53 PM

Spicy that's a bit of a stretch plot-wiseThe Adam Sutler character reminded me of George W. Bush!!! The only difference is George W would be saying "Let's remind the people why we need to be in Iraq."V said that if the people wanted to see the faces of the people who robbed them of their freedom that they needed only to look in the mirror.Never truer words. Alot of good and timely dialogue in the movie. I rather live in fear of a terrorist attack than surrender my freedoms.Hugo Weaving was awesome as V.  

This message was edited by INFOSTUD on 3-19-06 @ 9:57 PM

Donnielimes

03-20-2006, 12:40 PM

I thought it was great that we never see the characters face ever. I had to go look up who Hugo Weaving was on google. Natalie Portman is a nasty little jewish princess and I mean that in the nicest way. HOTTT even with no hair HOTTT!!!

IamFogHat

03-24-2006, 08:01 PM

holy shit this movie was good.  everytime i thought they were doing something that was going to inspire my gag reflex or cinematic aversion factor they totally proved me wrong.  everything i thought i was going to make me turn against the film as it was happening turned me ever more into supporting how brilliant the film was.  bravo with the 1812.  the last ten minutes of the movie are what fucking movies are meant to do to you.  unbelievable.  those w. boys really fucking redeemed themselves after the last two matrix films.  bravo. 

booster11373

03-25-2006, 06:04 AM

I liked the movie on a whole but found the "final confrontation" between V and Sutler to be a little unsatisfying.

JustJon

03-27-2006, 09:24 AM

SpicyMcHaggis wrote: Does anyone else think that V was Valerie the lesbian actress who's note was in the cell only to be mutated with steriods and chemicals and used her acting skills to sound like Hugo Weaving ?

This message was edited by SpicyMcHaggis on 3-19-06 @ 8:20 PM  I need to reread the book, but I think it was implied heavier in the book, but it wasn't Valerie in the movie because we see he had a definitive masculine physique. I finally saw it yesterday and thought it was really well done.  I also thought Sutler's demise was anti-climactic, but I'm glad the whole thing wasn't some overblown action movie.  There were a few fight scenes that made sense plot-wise and thankfully only one "bullet time" sequence, and even that one made sense.

booster11373

03-27-2006, 10:08 AM

I don't think V was ValerieIn the book we never see V's face. even after he die's Evie never looks, although is tempted.Now this the part that I don't think the movie did well. Even though it is made reference to earlier in the film.V tell's Evie how important and dangerous ideas can be and that ideas cant be killed. So I'm sorry if this ruins the book for anyone who has'nt read it yet, Evie dons the mask and become V because there is still work to be done.

FMJeff

03-27-2006, 11:13 AM

i don't think he was valerie either but took the symbolism of the V, roman numeral five and first letter of her name as his modus operandi...

TheRealEddie

03-27-2006, 01:02 PM

Damn that was one great movie! <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbup.gif" />

JustJon

03-27-2006, 01:25 PM

booster11373 wrote: V tell's Evie how important and dangerous ideas can be and that ideas cant be killed. So I'm sorry if this ruins the book for anyone who has'nt read it yet, Evie dons the mask and become V because there is still work to be done.  I think the movie implies it without ever having her actually donning the mask.  She pulls the lever and begins to talk/act like V with the police officer.

BeerBandit

03-28-2006, 04:05 AM

Did anyone else catch how William Hurt (Chancellor Sutler) played the exact opposite character (Winston) in the movie version of 1984?

Sheeplovr

03-28-2006, 04:15 AM

I think the movie implies it without ever having
her actually donning the mask.  She pulls the lever and begins to
talk/act like V with the police officerI felt that she would contunion on to think about ither putting on the mask and suit would look kinda silly on filmits cool for a comic drawn in 82 but on film it looks kinda hoaky when the one Wachowski gets his sex change operation do we still call them the Wachowski brothers?

LordJezo

03-28-2006, 05:05 AM

The movie ended up being one big anti American flick which annoyed me a bit but I have made the breakfast that V made twice now.  That gets a thumbs up from me.

Doctor Manhattan

03-28-2006, 05:14 AM

Were they credited as "The Wachowski Brothers"? Like they were for the 3 Matrix films (even the last one, I just checked the DVD)

INFOSTUD

03-28-2006, 05:21 AM

BeerBandit wrote: Did anyone else catch how William Hurt (Chancellor Sutler) played the exact opposite character (Winston) in the movie version of 1984? I noticed that almost immediately.

Doctor Manhattan

03-28-2006, 05:30 AM

INFOSTUD wrote: BeerBandit wrote: Did anyone else catch how William Hurt (Chancellor Sutler) played the exact opposite character (Winston) in the movie version of 1984? I noticed that almost immediately. I thought that was the point of the casting.

BeerBandit

03-28-2006, 06:03 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: INFOSTUD wrote: BeerBandit wrote: Did anyone else catch how William Hurt (Chancellor Sutler) played the exact opposite character (Winston) in the movie version of 1984? I noticed that almost immediately. I thought that was the point of the casting.I'm sure it was, but as you well know, not everyone is as cultured as I'm sure you and I are.  Consider it a courtesy of mine, helping out those board members who might be a little less informed than we.

Doctor Manhattan

05-03-2006, 02:54 PM

Furtherman

09-18-2006, 07:04 AM

I just caught this movie on On Demand this weekend. Awesome!   So, in case you didn't see it, dial it up on your On Demand.

Don Stugots

09-18-2006, 10:23 AM

Furtherman wrote: I just caught this movie on On Demand this weekend. Awesome!   So, in case you didn't see it, dial it up on your On Demand.agreed, people should watch it and enjoy it but also learn the message that is being told in the story.

silas

09-18-2006, 12:21 PM

Enjoyed the DVD tremendously.Good blend of ideas, set pieces, way cool V,...i think Portman is getting even better looking with each movie.....Very unfortunate that Moore got into unresolvable tangle with producers. He has a rep for even getting into these relationship-ending feuds with other artists, but i bet if he was an actor or directer, the producers may have been less prone to messing around with him.

Kevin

09-18-2006, 01:11 PM

Liked the movie alot but hated the sappy i have loved you from the moment i saw you ending.

drusilla

09-19-2006, 10:54 AM

Donnielimes wrote: I thought it was great that we never see the characters face ever. i really appreciated that.  movies always go for the shock factor so you would think they would want to show how deformed he was.  but it really had no place to show him without the mask.  i think the fact that you never saw his face made the movie so much better.