Shirley Phelps Roper: Spiritual Advisor to the Ron and Fez Show

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I saw a newsclip on CNN showing these radical Christians protesting in front of funerals for Iraqi War dead veterans showing signs that read "Thank God for IEDs" and some shouting that the fallen soldier is in hell. Who the fuck made them God? I understand people being opposed to the war but this is beyond disgraceful. Some states are presenting legislation to ban protests like this

[HBox]

You, my friend, should listen Ron &amp; Fez a little more often.<br />

[MadMatt]

<p><font size="2">Yeah, where have you been?&nbsp; R&amp;F interviewed one of the head wackos last week.&nbsp;&nbsp;I think her name was&nbsp;Shirley Phelps-Roper.&nbsp; Perrynoid also did an interview with her that's available on thecosmiccircus.com.</font></p><p><font size="2">She is a complete nut job.&nbsp; I wish the church and all of its followers would disappear into some alternate dimension like the one in Hellraiser.&nbsp; No, that is probably too good for them.</font></p>

[Hottub]

If maybe you forgot, It is XM202 from 11am to 2pm EST!

[suggums]

<p>it was even on one of the best-ofs the past two days. listen to the weekend replays</p><p>...or just hit the file library </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>edit: its the clip on 2/8 from the first page</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by suggums on 2-23-06 @ 9:55 PM</span>

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cant listen to them as much as I want to, I work in an office and if the wrong person hears the show they might call HR. Saying that, I try to catch up on the weekends with the replays

[FUNKMAN]

<p>yeah sure!&nbsp; next thing you'll try to tell us is the pope is on fire... sheesh</p>

[spoon]

Well my poop sure felt like it was on fire after eating in China Town!

[tele7]

<strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><p>yeah sure!&nbsp; next thing you'll try to tell us is the pope is on fire... sheesh</p><p>Fire?&nbsp; I think you meant Fiiyyaaa.&nbsp; You know these crazy kids and their Rap music.</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>telecaster7</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><p>yeah sure!&nbsp; next thing you'll try to tell us is the pope is on fire... sheesh</p><p>Fire?&nbsp; I think you meant Fiiyyaaa.&nbsp; You know these crazy kids and their Rap music.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>NICE!</p><p>you have quite the musical ear my friend... that's why you'll be playing in Van Halen and i'll&nbsp;continue rocking the crickets in my basement...</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

These people are Media Whores and they're great at what they do.&nbsp; I would never even talk to them but wouldn't shed any tears if an 18 wheeler hit their house.

[mikeyboy]

<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/displaymedia.cfm/id/2959" target="_self">Here's a clip of R&amp;F interviewing the head nutbar</a>

[A.J.]

<p><strong><font size="1">Religious wackos disgrace war dead</font></strong> </p><p>I thought this was gonna be about those filthy Muslims.</p>

[cupcakelove]

<strong>WRESTLINGFAN</strong> wrote:<br />Cant
listen to them as much as I want to, I work in an office and if the
wrong person hears the show they might call HR. Saying that, I try to
catch up on the weekends with the replays
<p>Do like the the rest of us stuck in an office, use headphones!&nbsp;
I know it seems a little crazy, but trust me, it all works out.<br />
</p>

[TheMojoPin]

How do you know if you've disgraced a dead person?&nbsp; Does the corpse blush?

[A.J.]

It rolls over in its grave.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

<p>Im sure her 18 yr old and 20 yr old daughters dont put out</p>

[Mangoat]

<p>http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060418/NEWS10/604180385&amp;SearchID=73241943820143</p><p> </p><p>&nbsp;</p>[quote]<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 class="deck">The governor, in the Mideast, enacts a bill he hopes will help an Ogden family burying a soldier today.</h3>
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<h6 class="date">April 18, 2006</h6>


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<p><br />Iowa
Gov. Tom Vilsack, traveling in the Middle East, enacted legislation
Monday outlawing protests near funerals in Iowa in hopes of sparing an
Ogden family from a planned anti-military demonstration today.<br /><br />The
new law bans disorderly conduct, such as loud, abusive language or
disruptive behavior, within 500 feet of a funeral, memorial service,
funeral procession or burial. It marked the first time Vilsack has
enacted legislation while not in the country, aides said.<br /><br />But a spokeswoman for the Westboro Baptist Church said the law will not keep the protesters from coming to Iowa.<br /><br />The
funeral for Iowa Army National Guard Sgt. Daniel L. Sesker, 22, is
scheduled for this morning at Ogden High School. Sesker, a gunner, was
killed near Tikrit, Iraq, when a roadside bomb exploded near his truck.<br /><br />Shirley
Phelps-Roper of the Westboro church said the new law would not impact
the protesters' message, noting they typically keep some distance from
memorial services and the ban should not affect their protest.<br /><br />&quot;I
don't care what (the governor) did. We're on our way,&quot; she said. &quot;We'll
obey the law. . . . It will change exactly nothing. If they think that
law has any success at stopping the punishing hand of God on this
nation, then the next thing they need to do is pass a law that
abolishes hell.&quot;<br /><br />The Topeka, Kan., group has protested at
numerous soldiers' funerals in recent months, including some in Iowa,
over the U.S. military's stance on homosexuals.<br /><br />The church
issued a press release Saturday about today's protest at Sesker's
funeral, saying &quot;God hates (homosexuals) . . . Ergo, God hates America
and is killing and maiming her sons and daughters in retaliatory wrath
and vengeance.&quot;<br /><br />Phelps-Roper said the law, passed by Iowa's
&quot;legislature Taliban,&quot; is unconstitutionally targeted at them and noted
last week's tornado that hit Iowa City as an example of God's anger
with Iowa.<br /><br />A prepared statement by the group called the bill a
&quot;blatant violation of the First Amendment&quot; and &quot;in blasphemous
suppression of God's truth in the earth by criminalizing gospel
preaching.&quot;<br /><br />Vilsack left Iowa on Wednesday to visit U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.<br /><br />By
telephone on Monday, he authorized his electronic signature to be
placed on the bill after receiving an opinion from the Iowa attorney
general's office that the act would be valid, Vilsack spokeswoman
Jennifer Mullin said. Vilsack's exact location could not be given, she
said, because of security procedures.<br /><br />Mullin said that this is
the first time Vilsack had taken such an action, and that it was
perhaps the first time any Iowa governor had done so. Former Gov. Terry
Branstad never signed a bill while outside the state, let alone the
country, said Eric Woolson, Branstad's former press secretary.<br /><br />&quot;I
have spoken to the Iowa families of fallen soldiers and have become
intimately aware of the heartbreak they endure,&quot; Vilsack said in a news
release. &quot;In the past few days in Iraq and Afghanistan, I have had the
opportunity of meeting some of the bravest men and women I believe I
will ever meet. Their families deserve to be spared from unreasonabl

[Death Metal Moe]

<p>I hope that whole church dies in a plane crash.</p><p>Fuck them to death.</p>

[SatCam]

The woman who was on R&F is talking about this story on <a href="http://www.live365.com/stations/thereisnoradio">ThereIsNoRadio.com</a> right now...

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by SatCam on 4-19-06 @ 8:42 PM</span>

[BoondockSaint]

I just wish that those bikers would stomp a mudhole in these people.

[Tall_James]

<p>I hope her husband catches AIDS from &quot;ministering&quot; some young misguided infected teenaged male&nbsp;prostitute.</p><p>I can't wait for her to die and see God laugh at her and send her on the express train to hell.</p>

[PapaBear]

<p>They're working on a similar law here in VA.</p><p>(Tim) Kaine announced his actions on several bills today, including support for a sales tax holiday for school supplies and a ban on disrupting funerals.</p>

[Tall_James]

<strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br /><p>They're working on a similar law here in VA.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>(Tim) Kaine announced his actions on several bills today, including support for a sales tax holiday for school supplies and a ban on disrupting funerals. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>Its about fucking time.&nbsp; Do you know how much I'm spending on #2 pencils alone?</p><p><img src="http://www.ssww.com/assemble/image.php?id=357" border="0" /></p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Tall_James</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br /><p>They're working on a similar law here in VA.</p><p> </p>(Tim) Kaine announced his actions on several bills today, including support for a sales tax holiday for school supplies and a ban on disrupting funerals. <p> </p><p>Its about fucking time. Do you know how much I'm spending on #2 pencils alone?</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Fuck Scantron!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[SinA]

<p>I should have said this earlier, but Shirley was on Hannity and Colmes last night (Tuesday).&nbsp; Too late now unless someone taped&nbsp;it, which isn't likely.&nbsp; </p><p>Trust me, she's a mess.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Also, Georgia passed a law banning protests w/in 500 feet of a funeral last month too.</p>

[IamFogHat]

Anyone standing up against the God Hates Fags people, politician or not, is a hero in my book.&nbsp; BTW is there anything we can do to destroy them without infringing on their 1st amendment rights?&nbsp; Because seriously if there is even a place i can send money to get rid of those fucks i'll happily do it.

[PapaBear]

<p>Because seriously if there is even a place i can send money </p><p>I voted for Tim Kaine, so you can send thank you money to me.</p>

[blakjeezis]

I don't know, man. Don't get me wrong, I list these people with the worst people on the face of the Earth, and I think what they do is irredeemably despicable, but I'm not sure if I'm in favor of this kind of law. It just makes me a little uncomfortable. It's like Ronnie says about the smoking ban and the Texas drunk in public/bar situation, it's also you're own rights that you're giving up. Like when this Shirley Phelps-Roper waste dies, I might wanna go and protest at her funeral and burn the bible or something, you know? Or maybe one of her kids, wouldn't that be great?<br />

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by blakjeezis on 4-20-06 @ 12:23 AM</span>

[FellOffTheWagon]

<p>This is the same guy that dressed up as Winnie the Pooh one day.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img height="276" src="http://davidhogberg.blogspot.com/Vil-Pooh.jpg" width="176" border="0" /></p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p><img width="298" height="420" border="0" src="http://www.dannews.net/protestpictures/godhates.jpg" />&nbsp; <img width="378" height="205" border="0" src="http://www.godhatesfags.com/images/2005/20050723_st.-bridgets-catholic-omaha.jpg" /><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html" target="_self" title="Website NSF. . . any decent human being">Website NSF. . . any decent human being</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Came across this on a google search. Some of their enlightened material&nbsp;</p><p></p><h2><p><font size="1">Pray for more American bodies blown to smithereens by cheap home made
Iraqi IEDs - <a href="http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/bombing/america-bombed-wbc.html">like
the IED America bombed WBC with August 20, 1995</a>, hoping thereby
to terrorize us into silence about America's fag sins.</font></p></h2><h2><font size="1">Pray for more dead bodies floating on the fag-semen-rancid waters
of New Orleans.</font></h2><h2><p><font size="1">&nbsp;</font></p></h2><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Living in NYC, you sometimes forget that there are still people like this around. They operate out of a Baptist church in Topeka, Kansas. They hate homosexuals, and they hate the military for being full of fags and dykes. And they claim their church was bombed by &quot;America&quot;. Basically, They're the latter day KKK. And one of the weirdest protest groups I've ever seen. <br /></p>

[DarkHippie]

Their church is basically one extended family run y this uber-douche Fred Phelps.&nbsp; They've come to NY a few times:&nbsp; I know specificially of them coming to New Paltz and to Nyack.

[FezPaul]

<p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">You should listen to the Ron &amp; Fez show on XM 202.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">They've had a member of this church, as a guest.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" /></font></strong></p>

[narc]

I saw them come and protest where I went to college. The funniest thing was when a gay guy in a counter-protest shouted out "God doesn't hate fags. God hates that shirt!"

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><p><strong><font size="2" face="courier new,courier,monospace">You should listen to the Ron &amp; Fez show on XM 202.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2" face="courier new,courier,monospace">They've had a member of this church, as a guest. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" /></font></strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>God forbid I miss a show. &nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>EDIT-Make that GODHSATESFAGS forbid I miss a show. &nbsp;</p>

[sr71blackbird]

Imagine if God really hated anything and was powerless to do anything about the things he hates?

[JustJon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p> </p><p> </p><strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><p><strong><font size="2" face="courier new,courier,monospace">You should listen to the Ron &amp; Fez show on XM 202.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2" face="courier new,courier,monospace">They've had a member of this church, as a guest. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" /></font></strong></p><p> </p><p>God forbid I miss a show. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>EDIT-Make that GODHSATESFAGS forbid I miss a show. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Or 5...&nbsp; Shirley Phelps Roper has been on the show several times.&nbsp;</p><blockquote />

[Doctor Manhattan]

I think she was on with Paul O one of those times.

[Reephdweller]

<p>Nah, he just wants to scratch their eyes out!</p>

[Doctor Manhattan]

I was probably thinking of Gail O

[FezPaul]

<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br />I was probably thinking of Gail O <p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">She makes Gail-O seem almost well-adjusted.</font></strong></p>

[cupcakelove]

<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/25/military.funerals.ap/index.html" target="_self">http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/25/military.funerals.ap/index.html</a></p><p>Looks like Congress can actually get some things done.&nbsp;</p>

[LordofIron]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p><img height="420" src="http://www.dannews.net/protestpictures/godhates.jpg" width="298" border="0" />&nbsp; <img height="205" src="http://www.godhatesfags.com/images/2005/20050723_st.-bridgets-catholic-omaha.jpg" width="378" border="0" /><br /></p><p><a title="Website NSF. . . any decent human being" href="http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html" target="_self">Website NSF. . . any decent human being</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Came across this on a google search. Some of their enlightened material&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h2><p><font size="1">Pray for more American bodies blown to smithereens by cheap home made Iraqi IEDs - <a href="http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/bombing/america-bombed-wbc.html">like the IED America bombed WBC with August 20, 1995</a>, hoping thereby to terrorize us into silence about America's fag sins.</font></p></h2><h2><font size="1">Pray for more dead bodies floating on the fag-semen-rancid waters of New Orleans.</font></h2><h2><p><font size="1" /></p></h2><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Living in NYC, you sometimes forget that there are still people like this around. They operate out of a Baptist church in Topeka, Kansas. They hate homosexuals, and they hate the military for being full of fags and dykes. And they claim their church was bombed by &quot;America&quot;. Basically, They're the latter day KKK. And one of the weirdest protest groups I've ever seen. <br /></p><p>So I presume you stance means you are pro homosexuality?&nbsp; You're all for gay rights and have no problem with gay marriage etc.&nbsp; 2 men living next to you and your family.&nbsp; walking hand and hand kissing and crap in front of your 7 year old child?</p><p>Well I happen to have had 2 gay MEN do just that in front of my 7 son and let me tell you,, they got the shit slapped out of them by me right there and then.&nbsp; They were kissing each other and laughing at my boys reaction to them and doing it all the more to see his reactions.&nbsp;&nbsp; I totally lost it and slapped them both silly.&nbsp;&nbsp; They literally ran away like the little bitches that they were and they deserved every crack.&nbsp; They are lucky i treated them like ladies or my fist would have been closed.&nbsp; </p>

[PapaBear]

<p>2 men living next to you and your family.&nbsp; walking hand and hand kissing and crap in front of your 7 year old child?</p><p><img height="400" src="http://eliza.blogg.se/images/style_paris_hilton_8_1137100333.jpg" width="228" border="0" /></p>

[Grendel_Kahn]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>LordofIron</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p><img width="117" height="166" border="0" src="http://www.dannews.net/protestpictures/godhates.jpg" /> <img width="104" height="56" border="0" src="http://www.godhatesfags.com/images/2005/20050723_st.-bridgets-catholic-omaha.jpg" /><br /></p><br />
<p><font size="1">So I
presume you stance means you are pro homosexuality? You're all for gay
rights and have no problem with gay marriage etc. 2 men living next to
you and your family. walking hand and hand kissing and crap in front of
your 7 year old child?</font></p><p><font size="1">Well I happen to
have had 2 gay MEN do just that in front of my 7 son and let me tell
you,, they got the shit slapped out of them by me right there and then.
They were kissing each other and laughing at my boys reaction to them
and doing it all the more to see his reactions. I totally lost it and
slapped them both silly. They literally ran away like the little
bitches that they were and they deserved every crack. They are lucky i
treated them like ladies or my fist would have been closed. </font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="3">Ok.&nbsp;
Really.&nbsp; There is of course no way this story is true.&nbsp; What
adult living in the 21st century would react like that?&nbsp; The worst
part is.......if it IS true............you don't see the latent
homosexuality in your response.&nbsp; Ever see American Beauty?&nbsp;
I'm sure if you were walking down the street and you say 2 women
kissing, you most likely couldn't STOP from stareing and giggling. What
a tool.&nbsp; But, living in NYC and being around acutal tough guys
from my entire life, I can say with the utmost confidence that this
story is some fantasy floating around in your head.&nbsp; No one just
commits an assault and walks away.&nbsp; No one GETS assaulted and
walks away. They call the cops or their friends.&nbsp; Really
man............work out the details before you post storytime
again.&nbsp; In fact by reading your little rant there...........I
doubt you have ever even SEEN a gay man. ( other than the
mirror).&nbsp; Gay men only act like that in movies.&nbsp; Living in
the &quot;big city&quot; you can see a very wide range of people.&nbsp; ANd never
once in 35 years have I ever seen 2 gay men prancing around to draw a
reaction.&nbsp; Well, sometimes during parades and holidays to see if
they can scare the rubes.&nbsp; IF I see something I don't like while
I'm with my daughters, I walk away.&nbsp; </font></p><p>What a dick. &nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[SatCam]

So I presume you stance means you are pro homosexuality? You're all for gay rights and have no problem with gay marriage etc. 2 men living next to you and your family. walking hand and hand kissing and crap in front of your 7 year old child?

Well I happen to have had 2 gay MEN do just that in front of my 7 son and let me tell you,, they got the shit slapped out of them by me right there and then. They were kissing each other and laughing at my boys reaction to them and doing it all the more to see his reactions. I totally lost it and slapped them both silly. They literally ran away like the little bitches that they were and they deserved every crack. They are lucky i treated them like ladies or my fist would have been closed.

You slapped two guys? Do you have a limp wrist and a lisp?

http://www.gay-marketing.com/mcouple.jpg

lol

no homo

[Death Metal Moe]

<p>Just attention whores.&nbsp; </p><p>Can someone help them meet God soon please?</p>

[feralBoy]

<strong>Grendel_Kahn</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font size="3">The worst part is.......if it IS true............you don't see the latent homosexuality in your response.&nbsp; Ever see American Beauty?&nbsp; </font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Don't you think the whole, &quot;if you have a problem with gay people, it must be because you are gay&quot; response is a little tired.&nbsp; Come on.</p>

[Dirtybird12]

<p>I never understood the tuff macho gay bashing homophobes. Why do you CARE what somebody else&nbsp;does with their love/sex life?&nbsp; If you are a homophobe or gay basher - you are no friend of mine.&nbsp; Grow the fuck up and live and let live.&nbsp; Just worry about yourself.&nbsp; Beating up people and killing them because they are gay is probably one of the worst crimes I can think of.&nbsp; Homophobes are usually guys who are not secure with their own sexuality. </p><p>Now if you don't mind, Im going to suck some cock and watch the news. </p>

[TheQuestion]

<strong>CircusFreak</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I never understood the tuff macho gay bashing homophobes. Why do you CARE what somebody else does with their love/sex life? If you are a homophobe or gay basher - you are no friend of mine. Grow the fuck up and live and let live. Just worry about yourself. Beating up people and killing them because they are gay is probably one of the worst crimes I can think of. Homophobes are usually guys who are not secure with their own sexuality. </p><p>Now if you don't mind, <span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">Im going to suck some cock and watch the news.</span> </p><p>&nbsp;</p>Want some company?<br />

[Dirtybird12]

<strong>TheQuestion</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>CircusFreak</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I never understood the tuff macho gay bashing homophobes. Why do you CARE what somebody else does with their love/sex life? If you are a homophobe or gay basher - you are no friend of mine. Grow the fuck up and live and let live. Just worry about yourself. Beating up people and killing them because they are gay is probably one of the worst crimes I can think of. Homophobes are usually guys who are not secure with their own sexuality. </p><p>Now if you don't mind, <span style="background-color: rgb(255,255,0)">Im going to suck some cock and watch the news.</span> </p><p>&nbsp;</p>Want some company?<br /><p>queer<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" /></p>

[SatCam]

Now if you don't mind, Im going to suck some cock and watch the news.

You watch the news? fag

[Grendel_Kahn]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>feralBoy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Grendel_Kahn</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font size="3">The
worst part is.......if it IS true............you don't see the latent
homosexuality in your response. Ever see American Beauty? </font></p><p> </p><p>Don't
you think the whole, &quot;if you have a problem with gay people, it must be
because you are gay&quot; response is a little tired. Come on.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="3">-----------------------------------------------------------------------</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="3">Actually,I do.&nbsp; But when it comes to violence, it seems warrented.&nbsp; I mean, why else would you respond that way?&nbsp;</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[TheMojoPin]

Who cares if kids see 2 people of the same sex kissing or hugging or holding hands or whatever is so &quot;awful&quot; to people like &quot;LordofIron?&quot;&nbsp; If your kid asks why they were doing that, why can't you just say &quot;because they're in love&quot; and move on?&nbsp; People act like you have to sit down then explain in graphic detail a guy getting blasted up the ass by another guy.&nbsp; What, if your son asks why a man and a woman are kissing you sit him down and draw a diagram as to how they have sex, and then show him a porno for good measure?&nbsp; Kids, for one, probably aren't going to give a crap in the first place unless you go out of your way to make them think 2 same sex people showing PDA's are a bad thing, and secondly, you don't need to explain gay SEX because you see 2 gay PEOPLE.&nbsp; Unclench, goddammit.&nbsp; Your kid is going to see things infinitely more &quot;damaging&quot; courtesy of &quot;hetero&quot; pop culture and its lovely habit of over-sexing EVERYTHING.

[Dirtybird12]

<p>yeah I can't stand those parents (usually dudes) say - &quot; I don't want my kid to see 2 men kissing or holding hands in the mall&quot;</p><p>Mojo's right - your kid isn't going to care. becuz babies and kids are deaf dumb and blind to hate/racism/homophobery until their parents &amp; society&nbsp;make a big deal about it.&nbsp; THATS how hate is born.&nbsp; Then that little kid grows up to think the same way.&nbsp; </p>

[Dirtybird12]

<strong>LordofIron</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p><img height="420" src="http://www.dannews.net/protestpictures/godhates.jpg" width="298" border="0" />&nbsp; <img height="205" src="http://www.godhatesfags.com/images/2005/20050723_st.-bridgets-catholic-omaha.jpg" width="378" border="0" /><br /></p><p><a title="Website NSF. . . any decent human being" href="http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html" target="_self">Website NSF. . . any decent human being</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Came across this on a google search. Some of their enlightened material&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h2><p><font size="1">Pray for more American bodies blown to smithereens by cheap home made Iraqi IEDs - <a href="http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/bombing/america-bombed-wbc.html">like the IED America bombed WBC with August 20, 1995</a>, hoping thereby to terrorize us into silence about America's fag sins.</font></p></h2><h2><font size="1">Pray for more dead bodies floating on the fag-semen-rancid waters of New Orleans.</font></h2><h2><font size="1" /><font size="1"><p>Living in NYC, you sometimes forget that there are still people like this around. They operate out of a Baptist church in Topeka, Kansas. They hate homosexuals, and they hate the military for being full of fags and dykes. And they claim their church was bombed by &quot;America&quot;. Basically, They're the latter day KKK. And one of the weirdest protest groups I've ever seen. <br /></p><p>So I presume you stance means you are pro homosexuality?&nbsp; You're all for gay rights and have no problem with gay marriage etc.&nbsp; 2 men living next to you and your family.&nbsp; walking hand and hand kissing and crap in front of your 7 year old child?</p><p>Well I happen to have had 2 gay MEN do just that in front of my 7 son and let me tell you,, they got the shit slapped out of them by me right there and then.&nbsp; They were kissing each other and laughing at my boys reaction to them and doing it all the more to see his reactions.&nbsp;&nbsp; I totally lost it and slapped them both silly.&nbsp;&nbsp; They literally ran away like the little bitches that they were and they deserved every crack.&nbsp; They are lucky i treated them like ladies or my fist would have been closed.&nbsp; </p><p>I'm sure your son has seen and heard things a lot worse than 2 gay guys.&nbsp; especialy with someone as fucking cool and macho as you.&nbsp; I hope your son grows up gay and kicks the shit out of you. </p></font></h2>

[DarkHippie]

<p>The name LordofIron is pretty gay in itself.</p><p>God bless the steel workers of america</p>

[Ndugu]

He's just doin' a character like Mr. Imus.

[TheQuestion]

<p>Good news, boys!&nbsp; The latest &quot;workout&quot; video is here!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img border="0" src="http://www.gaydvdsexvideos.com/dvds/SexpackFourl.jpg" />&nbsp;</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>Since he just signed up as a member (May 2006) I'll guess he did a google search looking for more information about /or to sign up with Godhatesfags, and then found my little thread. And was upset everyone doesn't share his world view. </p><p>I love how these types hide behind their children for behavior that makes THEM uncomfortable. That doesn't seem very manly to me. Why not just say what you REALLY think, that you dont like other adults behaving that way. Oh, thats right. You have no right and no business telling other adults how to behave. Never mind. <br /> </p><p>And even if his little fantasy was true, what kind of example did that set for his kid? You solve problems by acting like a belligerent asshole and resorting to violence? Someone has some growing up to do, and it aint the kid. &nbsp;</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p><a title="Damn these folks are busy" target="_self" href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060529/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush">Damn these folks are busy</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p><p>At the White House, Bush signed the Respect for America's Fallen
Heroes Act,&quot; passed by Congress largely in response to the activities
of a Kansas church group that has staged protests at military funerals
around the country, claiming the deaths symbolized God's anger at U.S.
tolerance of homosexuals.</p>
<p>The new law bars protests within 300 feet of the entrance of a
national cemetery and within 150 feet of a road into the cemetery. This
restriction applies an hour before until an hour after a funeral. Those
violating the act would face up to a $100,000 fine and up to a year in
prison.</p>
<p>Monday's observance at Arlington National Cemetery was not a
funeral, so demonstrators were free to speak their minds at the site.
Bush's motorcade passed several on the way in, including a small group
that held signs saying, &quot;Thank God for dead soldiers&quot; and &quot;God hates
fags.&quot;</p>
<p>Approximately 10 people from the Washington, D.C., chapter of
FreeRepublic.com, a self-styled grass roots conservative group, stood
across the road with signs supporting U.S. troops. A large sign held by
several people said, &quot;God bless our troops, defenders of freedom,
American heroes.&quot;</p>
<p>The FreeRepublic.com group was trying to counter demonstrations by
the Kansas-based group, led by the Rev. Fred Phelps. He previously had
organized protests against those who died of AIDS and gay murder victim Matthew Shepard.</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p><a title="Damn these folks are busy" target="_self" href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060529/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush"></a>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 5-29-06 @ 9:11 PM</span>

[Raskolnikov]

<p>Heh ...&nbsp;&quot;Church Lady.&quot; <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/happy.gif" border="0" /></p><p>That freaking stupid church lady from this morning was NOT a Christian! Not at all! She was SO unbelievably ignorant, immature, uneducated, and unintelligent for a woman in her position! I was totally appalled by the way she represented Christians!</p><p>Let me tell you something: this woman was just an ordinary, uneducated, unintellectual person with spite towards certain people who&nbsp;SOMEHOW ended up with the responsibility of running a church! This is no Christian! Do not think for a second that this woman stands for all Christians, because I'll tell you: the things that I heard come out of the mouth of that stupid bitch were TOTALLY against the doctrines of the Holy Bible that I was taught, growing up around the Christian church. I'm thinking most people like me (and even those who've turned their backs on the God) will attest to this. Those whole, &quot;Everyone's going to Hell,&quot; &quot;Everyone's in Hell,&quot; &quot;Don't repent; it's too late,&quot; and &quot;Thank God for (horrible catastrophe here)&quot; mantras she was harping on were completely anti-Christian. And then that little rehearsed song she had her children do for the show towards the end of her call (right? Remember?) -- chilling. Just chilling; and wrong on so many levels.</p>Ron and Fez (particularly Ron) kind of treated the woman in a -- I'll say -- sort of, &quot;That's-just-the-way these-people-are&quot; sort of way; and were kind of ho-hum about it -- not at all addressing subjects like, &quot;Is all this bullshit this woman spewing appropriate for the Christian religion?&quot; Those things are what concerned me. <p>I almost got through on the phones today to call all this in, and inform Ron and Fez and the listening audience of this woman's fraudulence, but they seemed to hurry past the after-calling discussion, and hush up the whole thing. Normally (or, at least as long as I remember listening to them on WJFK since 2002), they go on for a little while with things like that. Maybe it's just because they've been cut short an hour. Anyone else think they were MUCH, MUCH better when they were on WJFK?.</p><p>If I missed out on being able to inform everyone this morning, I hope I'll get to able to tonight with, at least, <em>most</em> of the listeners.</p><p>It's people like this who give Christians a bad name.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Raskolnikov on 6-1-06 @ 10:50 PM</span>

[Death Metal Moe]

<p>I think Christians give Christians a bad enough name on their own.</p><p>You know the best part of owning a MyFi or other portable?&nbsp; I never heard that woman.&nbsp; Fast forwarded past her segment.&nbsp; Beautiful.</p>

[Raskolnikov]

<p>Of course, there's always going to be people like you, but what can you do? </p><p>I believe that's <em>your</em> problem to deal with, bud.</p>

[mikeyboy]

There is no one in the listening audience with even a quarter of a brain who think Shirley Phelps Roper and the Westborough Baptist Church is a typical Christian.

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>Raskolnikov</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Of course, there's always going to be people like you, but what can you do? </p><p>I believe that's <em>your</em> problem to deal with, bud.</p><p>Is it?</p>

[TheQuestion]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><hr width="100%" size="2" /><span class="postbody">Let me tell you something: this woman was just an ordinary, uneducated, unintellectual person </span><p>&nbsp;</p><hr width="100%" size="2" /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>While I obviously strongly disagree with Ms. Roper and everything she stands for, this statement is simply not true.&nbsp; She happens to have a law degree and seems very well versed in using religion and fear for manipulation.&nbsp; These are not qualities found in uneducated, unintellectual people. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[DirtyJersey]

<p>I disagree with everything this mad-woman stands for but I love her as a guest. She makes me crack up and I think Ron and Fez do a great job of tooling on her while she rants and raves.</p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>TheQuestion</strong> wrote:<br /><p> </p><p> </p><hr width="100%" size="2" /><span class="postbody">Let me tell you something: this woman was just an ordinary, uneducated, unintellectual person </span><p> </p><hr width="100%" size="2" /><p> </p><p> </p><p>While I obviously strongly disagree with Ms. Roper and everything she stands for, this statement is simply not true. She happens to have a law degree and seems very well versed in using religion and fear for manipulation. These are not qualities found in uneducated, unintellectual people. </p><p> </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>That's what pissed me off about her - she was a very well-spoken woman.&nbsp; It always angers me when people who are intelligent enough to speak that well publically spew such hateful things.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It's a lot easier when you're Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel talking about &quot;them coloreds&quot;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Raskolnikov]

<strong>TheQuestion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><hr width="100%" size="2" /><span class="postbody">Let me tell you something: this woman was just an ordinary, uneducated, unintellectual person </span><p>&nbsp;</p><hr width="100%" size="2" /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>While I obviously strongly disagree with Ms. Roper and everything she stands for, this statement is simply not true.&nbsp; She happens to have a law degree and seems very well versed in using religion and fear for manipulation.&nbsp; These are not qualities found in uneducated, unintellectual people. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yes, I forgot about that. </p><p>Well, she may have a law degree, but she sounded wholly&nbsp;unintelligent to me. Maybe she's intelligent in some way where she's not in others -- I'll just say that, then.</p><p>It horrifies me that people like her&nbsp;are allowed to hold positions in the church. If there's a God, why would he allow something like that?</p><p>&quot;seems very well versed in using religion and fear for manipulation&quot;</p><p>Yes. Sickening, is it not?</p>

[HBox]

<p><span class="postbody">Yes. Sickening, is it not?</span></p><p>It isn't it, not?&nbsp;</p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="postbody">Yes. Sickening, is it not? </span><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="#000080"><font size="2">It isn't it, not?</font></font>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Is is, not isn't.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is , is not isn't.</font></strong></p>

[DumbBastard]

I think it's better that Ron &amp; Fez let these kooks blather
on.&nbsp; Any AM radio hack could (and most likely would) score points
with angry listeners by calling her out on her bullshit, but what is
the point? We all know it's bullshit anyhow, so let the crazy bitch go
on bumping her gums and making an ass out herself.<br />

[PapaBear]

<strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="postbody">Yes. Sickening, is it not? </span><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="#000080"><font size="2">It isn't it, not?</font></font>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Is is, not isn't.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is , is not isn't.</font></strong></p><p>That depends on what your definition of &quot;is&quot; is.</p><p>PS. Your line, &quot;Is is, not isn't&quot; should actually be read as, &quot;Is is is, not isn't&quot;. Isn't you be agreeing on me with that?</p>

[sithlord]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;Say what you want about that nut but she makes for GREAT radio. I remember hearing her on Howard Stern years ago. I think Ron and Fez handle her better though. When they were playing the Bob Marley and Prince over her rambling- fantastic.</p>

[landarch]

I will agree that they handle her perfectly, and it makes for good cringe radio.&nbsp;&nbsp;Her idiocy&nbsp;makes me so angry though that it is difficult to stay with the entire bit.&nbsp; I haven't heard the latest one yet, but it is my-fi'd and on the way.

[Reynolds]

I'd like to see a war draft, just to see that twat's response when someone tells her that those weirdo kids of hers have to go to war.&nbsp; Either that or they should get two fags dressed up in leather to counter protest them by just standing near them and making out.

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>mudeater</strong> wrote:<br />I'd like to see a war draft, just to see that twat's response when someone tells her that those weirdo kids of hers have to go to war.&nbsp; Either that or they should get two fags dressed up in leather to counter protest them by just standing near them and making out. <p>You know, that's a REALLY good idea.&nbsp; Just have to burly men with 5 o'clock shadows sucking face near these people.</p><p>I wouldn't want to see it but I'd love to hear about the aftermath.</p>

[RinceWind69inc]

well......but on the other hand ladies and gentlemen shouldn't&nbsp;Fags....um...how shall I say this in a polite way.......Must Die? <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" />

[sanssleep]

<p>The Scary part of that interview was that she REALLY believed everything that she was saying.&nbsp; Alot of people are saying these kooks are just out for attention, but the sad fact is that they really, honestly believe this stuff with all thier hearts.&nbsp; That is the scary part of religion.&nbsp; If you believe God is telling you something you have to act on it, don't you?&nbsp; That is what this lady is doing, following God.</p><p>Its the same with the Jihadist Muslims, they are only doing what God wants them to do, they are compelled to do it, because its God's will.</p><p>Ronnie's questions to Earl afterwards about interpretation were spot on.&nbsp; How can you believe and act on anything religiously when it is predicated on human interpretation.</p><p>The Bible tell us that if our right hand offends we must cut it off.&nbsp; My guess is there would be alot of left handed christians out there if they really acted on what the bible says right?</p><p>I dunno maybe its just my interpretation.</p>

[Raskolnikov]

<strong>RinceWind69inc</strong> wrote:<br />well......but on the other hand ladies and gentlemen shouldn't&nbsp;Fags....um...how shall I say this in a polite way.......Must Die? <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" /> <p>Yeah, I hate fags as much as the next guy -- that's the only thing I can get on board with her on.</p><p>But, I'm not so hot with preaching&nbsp;convoluted, and false, Christian doctrines, and saying crazy things.</p>

[Raskolnikov]

<strong>sanssleep</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The Scary part of that interview was that she REALLY believed everything that she was saying.&nbsp; Alot of people are saying these kooks are just out for attention, but the sad fact is that they really, honestly believe this stuff with all thier hearts.&nbsp; That is the scary part of religion.&nbsp; If you believe God is telling you something you have to act on it, don't you?&nbsp; That is what this lady is doing, following God.</p><p>Its the same with the Jihadist Muslims, they are only doing what God wants them to do, they are compelled to do it, because its God's will.</p><p>Ronnie's questions to Earl afterwards about interpretation were spot on.&nbsp; How can you believe and act on anything religiously when it is predicated on human interpretation.</p><p>The Bible tell us that if our right hand offends we must cut it off.&nbsp; My guess is there would be alot of left handed christians out there if they really acted on what the bible says right?</p><p>I dunno maybe its just my interpretation.</p><p>Okay, so I'm glad to see I was on the right track, there, by having a mind to call in and inform. I can see there are exactly the type of listeners out there that needed it; but I knew that anyway.</p><p>Except, I guess you would have just ignored me the way you're ignoring me now.</p>

[boeman]

<strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I think Christians give Christians a bad enough name on their own.</p><p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" /></p>

[SouthSideJohnny]

<strong>sanssleep</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The Scary part of that interview was that she REALLY believed everything that she was saying.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Even scarier than that is the fact that this flake is sitting with a room full of children who can't wait to sing the &quot;Pope is on Fire&quot; song.&nbsp; I am not the biggest supporter of the Catholic Church and the Vatican, but there is something inherently wrong with young kids being that brainwashed at such an early age.&nbsp; </p><p>I am not 100% certain, but I could swear that right near the beginning of the interview, Shirley&nbsp;said something [muffled] next to the phone about where is the Pope?&nbsp; And in the background, you hear a kid say &quot;hell&quot; as he is desperately seeking some attention and approval from Shirley.&nbsp; I am going to listen again on the MyFi to that part of the interview to make sure I wasn't hallucinating.</p><p>This lady was on a few&nbsp;years back (I think it was Howard) with some kids holding &quot;God hates Fags&quot; signs, and the kid is spouting on about how Leveticus says &quot;homosexual is an abomination.&quot;&nbsp; The interviewer asked the kid what &quot;abomination&quot; meant, and the kid had this blank stare back without a clue.&nbsp; The look in her eyes clearly said&nbsp;&quot;I have to spout this shit, even though I don't know what it means, since it is the only way my fucked up family will give me any love.&quot;</p>

[heyronnie]

<p>She makes for interesting radio because she's so completely over the top.&nbsp; She may take herself seriously, but she's nothing more than a peculiar carny act to me.&nbsp; I don't find her offensive in the least.&nbsp; </p><p>Interesting how often that &quot;church&quot; gets around, though:</p><p><a href="http://www.godhatesfags.com/photos/thisyear.html">http://www.godhatesfags.com/photos/thisyear.html</a></p><p>Check out the dates on those pics.&nbsp; These people are busy.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[suggums]

jeremiah was a bullfrog?<br />

[heyronnie]

<p>Sign O' the Times!</p><p>http://www.itvmovieclub.com/itv/images/products/6/39836-large.jpg</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>boeman</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I think Christians give Christians a bad enough name on their own.</p><p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" /><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" /></p><p>2 clappy hands guys?&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You're far too kind sir.</p>

[ADF]

Religion is what you make of it.&nbsp; Something tells me that if there was no such thing as religion (a man can dream), she'd find some other reason to disparage homosexuality.<br />

[The Jays]

I think it would be cool if a bunch of homosexuals protested her church by having gay sex in front of it.

[Stalker Patti]

I know actual HEATHENS who are way more charitable&nbsp;than Ms. Roper is!&nbsp; She is a poor excuse for someone who professes to be a true Christian.&nbsp; She better go back to her Bible and read Corinthians 1:13, and then go examine herself!

[zildjian361]

<strong>SouthSideJohnny</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>sanssleep</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The Scary part of that interview was that she REALLY believed everything that she was saying.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Even scarier than that is the fact that this flake is sitting with a room full of children who can't wait to sing the &quot;Pope is on Fire&quot; song.&nbsp; I am not the biggest supporter of the Catholic Church and the Vatican, but there is something inherently wrong with young kids being that brainwashed at such an early age.&nbsp; </p><p>I am not 100% certain, but I could swear that right near the beginning of the interview, Shirley&nbsp;said something [muffled] next to the phone about where is the Pope?&nbsp; And in the background, you hear a kid say &quot;hell&quot; as he is desperately seeking some attention and approval from Shirley.&nbsp; I am going to listen again on the MyFi to that part of the interview to make sure I wasn't hallucinating.</p><p>This lady was on a few&nbsp;years back (I think it was Howard) with some kids holding &quot;God hates Fags&quot; signs, and the kid is spouting on about how Leveticus says &quot;homosexual is an abomination.&quot;&nbsp; The interviewer asked the kid what &quot;abomination&quot; meant, and the kid had this blank stare back without a clue.&nbsp; The look in her eyes clearly said&nbsp;&quot;I have to spout this shit, even though I don't know what it means, since it is the only way my fucked up family will give me any love.&quot;</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are you the REAL Southside Johnny, from Southside Johnny &amp; the Asbury Jukes?</p>

[Yerdaddy]

<p>That freaking stupid church lady from this morning was NOT a Christian! Not at all! She was SO unbelievably ignorant, immature, uneducated, and unintelligent for a woman in her position! I was totally appalled by the way she represented Christians!</p><p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-06-03-gay-marriage_x.htm?csp=34" target="_blank">Bush backs federal marriage amendment</a></p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Yerdaddy</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p>That freaking stupid church lady from this morning was NOT a Christian! Not at all! She was SO unbelievably ignorant, immature, uneducated, and unintelligent for a woman in her position! I was totally appalled by the way she represented Christians!<p>&nbsp;</p><p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-06-03-gay-marriage_x.htm?csp=34">Bush backs federal marriage amendment</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Although BUSH backs it, the amendment has a very low chance of passing congress.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And Bush doesn't represent all Christians either.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Yerdaddy]

<strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Yerdaddy</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p>That freaking stupid church lady from this morning was NOT a Christian! Not at all! She was SO unbelievably ignorant, immature, uneducated, and unintelligent for a woman in her position! I was totally appalled by the way she represented Christians! <p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-06-03-gay-marriage_x.htm?csp=34" target="_blank">Bush backs federal marriage amendment</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Although BUSH backs it, the amendment has a very low chance of passing congress.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And Bush doesn't represent all Christians either.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Clearly the point is not to get the bill passed. The point is to propose the bill knowing it's going to fail and get as much publicity for the issue as possible, (wasting as much of Congress' time as possible with bigotted floor speeches about the sanctity of &quot;traditional marriage&quot;&nbsp;- a term that never really existed before the last elections), whipping up homophobic Christian conservatives on their crusade against gay marriage. Then the ammendment fails, the homophobes are disgusted that they live in a country that doesn't hate fags enough to prevent them from getting married, states put anti-gay marriage ammendments on their state ballots, which brings out the Christian conservative homophobes to the polls and in the process they vote for the repubicans on the ballot.</p><p>It's a political tactic that helped Bush a great deal in 2000. But it is the republican party threatening to ammend the Constitution to restrict the rights of Americans for the first time since prohibition in order to win more votes. </p><p>And it works why? Because conservative Christian homophobes are a big enough part of the republican base to make it worth their while to expend this amount&nbsp;political capital on them. </p><p>Bush doesn't represent all Christians, I agree. Not all Christians are homophobes, I agree. Not all Christians are republicans. But there are enough people who hold watered-down versions of the Phelps' views to make them a giant political force in America. </p><p>The homophobe vote is a big one.</p>

[Don Stugots]

that women spoke with such passion and conviction that it is borderline Hitler. very scary. she should be in a rubber room not teaching children to sing songs about burning the pope. pope john paul in hell? how does she know?

even the devil quotes the bible.

[StillMovement]

Honestly, religion in general can be looked at as a joke. really, what is religion. everybody has their on concept to what they believe is real and they are all pretty damn hardheaded to their ways. Take the god hates fags lady, she will not shut up long enough to hear anybody elses opinions, because she is so stuck on her own. every religion believe that their way is the only way to get into heaven, and so what makes one more right than the other? if anybody can make sense out of any of this religion stuff. MORE POWER TO YOU!

[Don Stugots]

it is all subjective. according a most Born again Christians a devoted Buddaist will go to hell when they die because they believe the wrong thing.

My personal belief is that if you are a good person and lead a good life you will not go to hell just because you jerk off in the shower.

[Raskolnikov]

<p>I can see now that I've wasted my time on you people. I haven't changed a single opinion from what it already was to begin with.</p><p>I already knew this board is a hive of religiously destitute barbarians, and I should have considered that more carefully before I decided to post. </p><p>I've heard enough.</p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>Raskolnikov</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I can see now that I've wasted my time on you people. I haven't changed a single opinion from what it already was to begin with.</p><p>I already knew this board is a hive of religiously destitute barbarians, and I should have considered that more carefully before I decided to post. </p><p>I've heard enough.</p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Rome wasn't built in a day.</font></strong></p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br>that women spoke with such passion and conviction that it is borderline Hitler. very scary. she should be in a rubber room not teaching children to sing songs about burning the pope. pope john paul in hell? how does she know?

even the devil quotes the bible. <hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br><hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br>that women spoke with such passion and conviction that it is borderline Hitler. very scary. she should be in a rubber room not teaching children to sing songs about burning the pope. pope john paul in hell? how does she know?

even the devil quotes the bible. <hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

you stealin my posts?

[Death Metal Moe]

<p>I tried to reply but the tools did that fucking thing again.</p><p>Gay.</p>

[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br><p>I tried to reply but the tools did that fucking thing again.</p><p>Gay.</p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>


hmmmmm, likely story.

[FezPaul]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />that women spoke with such passion and conviction that it is borderline Hitler. very scary. she should be in a rubber room not teaching children to sing songs about burning the pope. pope john paul in hell? how does she know? <strong>even the devil quotes the bible.</strong> <p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">And stugots is quoting Shakespeare.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">And moe is quoting stugots.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Hoo-hoo</font></strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Don Stugots]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>FezPaul</strong> wrote:<br><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />that women spoke with such passion and conviction that it is borderline Hitler. very scary. she should be in a rubber room not teaching children to sing songs about burning the pope. pope john paul in hell? how does she know? <strong>even the devil quotes the bible.</strong> <p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">And stugots is quoting Shakespeare.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">And moe is quoting stugots.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">Hoo-hoo</font></strong> <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" /></p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

i didnt know Willie Shakes wrote that. i thought i made it up.

[SeanInMichigan]

<p>I love how Ron ended the interview by calling that crazy bitch &quot;Big&quot; Shirley Phelps.</p>

[Yerdaddy]

<strong>Raskolnikov</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I can see now that I've wasted my time on you people. I haven't changed a single opinion from what it already was to begin with.</p><p>I already knew this board is a hive of religiously destitute barbarians, and I should have considered that more carefully before I decided to post. </p><p>I've heard enough.</p><p>If you post long, rambling diatribes on a messageboard with the expectation of changing minds, you're halfway to a suicide already. Trust me, I know.</p><p>And www.religiouslydestitutebarbarians.net was&nbsp;originally going to be the&nbsp;URL of this board. But we decided it was more fun to lure belivers into our venus flytrap of apostasy. So learn it. Live it. Suck it.</p>

[JimmyDuvet]

<strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I think Christians give Christians a bad enough name on their own.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Unfortunately, while real Christians go unnoticed for the most part, people like this do, and end up becoming the face of Christianity to those who are not Christian. </p><p>This woman, however, is radio gold. It just saddens me to see that a young child's life path is being laid out by this abomination.</p>

[epo]

<p>That's right, crazy Shirley Roper is back in the news again.&nbsp; This time it appears she and the church are getting sued.</p><p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/27/national/main1843396.shtml">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/27/national/main1843396.shtml</a></p><p>Those wacky Ropers.&nbsp; </p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><p>That's right, crazy Shirley Roper is back in the news again. This time it appears she and the church are getting sued.</p><p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/27/national/main1843396.shtml">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/27/national/main1843396.shtml</a></p><p>Those wacky Ropers. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Good.&nbsp; You can hide behind the First Amendment, but this is one lawsuit that isn't needless.&nbsp; The ol' O.J. Simpson end-around.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/27/national/main1843396.shtml"></a></p>Those wacky Ropers.&nbsp; <p>&nbsp;</p><p>http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/FezPaul/ropers.jpg<br /></p>

[UnknownPD]

<p><a title="ACLU" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/22/AR2006072200643.html" target="_self">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/22/AR2006072200643.html</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="3">Seems Westboro has the ACLU on their side</font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by UnknownPD on 7-30-06 @ 6:45 PM</span>

[FUNKMAN]

man them people piss me off. i wouldn't mind lobbing a few rocks their way

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>UnknownPD</strong> wrote:<br /><p><a target="_self" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/22/AR2006072200643.html" title="ACLU">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/22/AR2006072200643.html</a></p><p> </p><p><font size="3">Seems Westboro has the ACLU on their side</font></p>

<span class="post_edited"><br /></span><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>ACLU can protect them against the law for their RIGHTS.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The ACLU can't protect them as well in a civil suit.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[narc]

Does anyone remember the Onion story from "This Dumb Century" where the ACLU goes to protect Nazis' rights to keep killing ACLU members? Ah, the droll irony.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

will they start a site called godhateslawsuits.com?

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>I wonder if Ron will be called to testify.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[kellermcgee21]

As much as I despise this group....nothing beats hearing the lil ones singing the &quot;pope is on fire&quot;

[abortedfetus]

<p>I was watching those fuckers on HDNET World Report and they are even more nuts on TV than the radio.&nbsp; However, maybe I've smoked too much pot, but there was a guy with the name Phelps-Roper.&nbsp; Isn't Phelps-Roper her maiden and married name?&nbsp; It was strange because there was another member that was a guy with either the last name Phelps or Roper singularly.&nbsp; Unless that was her son and she gave him a douchy middle name or a nephew of some sort.&nbsp; Either way they showed them in front of the state building with about ten kids protesting with god hates fags on their signs.&nbsp; They are standing at the entrance of the cemetary with signs and state troopers making sure nothing happens.&nbsp; From R&amp;F I knew these people were cunts, but seeing how fucking close they are to these funerals in amazing.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have a close friend&nbsp;in the&nbsp;military and I have to give the soldiers families credit.&nbsp; I wonder if she and the rest of Westboro Baptist realize how close they may be to death.&nbsp;&nbsp;I would think there is some crazy soldier out there&nbsp;who may not take too kindly to this.&nbsp; Maybe she missed the Vietnam War where she could call returning soldiers baby killers and spit on them. </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by abortedfetus on 7-30-06 @ 8:37 PM</span>

[epo]

<strong>UnknownPD</strong> wrote:<br /><p><a title="ACLU" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/22/AR2006072200643.html" target="_self">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/22/AR2006072200643.html</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="3">Seems Westboro has the ACLU on their side</font></p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by UnknownPD on 7-30-06 @ 6:45 PM</span> <p>Some wise professor once used the phrase &quot;Democracy can be ugly sometimes&quot; and the quote stuck with me.&nbsp; If we all dig the free speech thing then we've got to tolerate the bullshit that comes from the Westboros, the KKK's, etc.&nbsp; I'm actually kind of glad the ACLU does this type of work.&nbsp; Doesn't mean we have to like it or listen to it, but it has the right to exist.&nbsp; </p><p>Of course that doesn't mean that usage of speech doesn't have responsibilities as well.&nbsp; Personally I can't stand these nutbars and hope they get the shit sued out of them.&nbsp; </p>

[Judge Smails]

<p><a href="http://www.sillycake.com/media/8839/Interesting/Gay_Protester_Gets_Confronted_And_Then_Hit_On.html" target="_self">Fred Phelps has a nice firm butt</a></p>

[docgoblin]

<p>I'm getting so sick of this crap. These people may have a &quot;right&quot; to protest at innocent soldiers and coal miners funerals, but if it were my child's burial, one of these assholes would be getting the beating of their lives somewhere down the line. I can't believe some of these sign-carrying, ACLU-hiding-behind dickheads haven't gotten the absolute shit beaten out of them at some point. I don't say the confrontation should occur where the funeral is taking place, because the &quot;church&quot; would immediately sue the perpetrator, but I would sure as hell find one of these pricks alone a month later and pummel them. It might not change a thing, but it would make me feel better. I've got a son and daughter almost military age. Should either of them decide to follow that path, and sadly one of them loses their life on duty, God forbid if this bitch ever protests at the funeral. Forget about the bullshit legal channels, one of these cretins will be beaten to a pulp when they least expect it. If more fathers did this it might shut this awful organization down.</p><p>The ACLU sucks!&nbsp;</p>

[JustJon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>abortedfetus</strong> wrote:<br /><p>However, maybe I've smoked too much pot, but there was a guy with the name Phelps-Roper. Isn't Phelps-Roper her maiden and married name? <br /></p><span class="post_edited"><br /></span><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It's possible that the child was given both last names.&nbsp; My nephew's name is like that, but without the hypen, but my sister is a hyphenate.&nbsp;</p>

[moochcassidy]

not sure which thread this should go in

but im a big fan of this dude Louis Theroux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Theroux), he has a great sort of 'bumbling englishman abroad' style that makes people drop their guard.

made an exellent doc about the phelps-roper family and has an interesting insight into the charasmatic(:wink:) leader 'gramps'

part 1 (http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/most%2Bhated%2Bfamily%2Btheroux/video/x1mrt6_louis-theroux-most-hated-family-13)

part2 (http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/most%2Bhated%2Bfamily%2Btheroux/video/x1ms9x_louis-theroux-most-hated-family-23/1)

part3 (http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/most%2Bhated%2Bfamily%2Btheroux/video/x1ms4r_louis-theroux-most-hated-family-33/1)

something tells me ole 'gramps' likes the big hard black cock right up his arse.

[K.C.]

Thanks for the links, Mooch.

Great doc...Louis Theriox nails it pretty much, I think in regards to these people.

They're vindicated in the hate people show towards them, because they're taught that the world hates them and is evil from the beginning of their lives.

And they're all very close knit, and kept together, in a cult-esque fashion to where they don't get a chance to experience any type of normalcy in the outside world.

I would bet that if they took Shirley's kids, and dropped them anonymously in a sort of normal, American life for a period of time, away from the sort of compound and constant propoganda, they'd almost to a person, embrace a semi-normal existence.

You could see in the girl's eyes at the end that she almost wants something different but knows that this is her fate.

[patsopinion]

ronnie was right
those bitches are so hot

[TheMojoPin]

FYI, Phelps is either on his way to or is already at VA Tech to protest "fags and muslims," as per usual.

[heyronnie]

Those Roper girls are so fuckable.

We don't have to go to Starbucks, baby. We'll make Folgers right here in the kitchen, just like moms says.

And then I'll put it in your ass.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Has anyone seen the Sleepaway Camp movies? The girl at the end reminds me of the killer in there, so absolutely gleeful as she pulls her shit.

[Landblast]

wow mooch, looking forward to watching it fully after dinner, thanks!

[Snacks]

I just couldnt stop watching. Very good doc!!! the one girl that is in college seems like she would be a sweet girl if it wasnt for all that hate she has been taught. She giggles and kinda flirts with the guy, and you can tell she wants to be friends with him but she has been programed to fight her feelings.

This was great thatnks. More proof that religion is the root of all evil.

[Dan G]

That was a cool rockumentary. Louis Theroux is great. I loved his "Weird Weekends" series.

[K.C.]

I just couldnt stop watching. Very good doc!!! the one girl that is in college seems like she would be a sweet girl if it wasnt for all that hate she has been taught. She giggles and kinda flirts with the guy, and you can tell she wants to be friends with him but she has been programed to fight her feelings.

This was great thatnks. More proof that religion is the root of all evil.

I don't even think it is religion.

I think Louis says it in the film...you can find pretty much anything in the Bible that you can bend to your own will as far as making your opinion on things seem authoritative.

It's about that guy, 'Gramps', and his demons within that drove him to start this ministry.

Something seriously fucked up must have happened to 'Gramps' back in the day, because he's the source of all of it...everyone else is just an extension of his anger, basically being used to do his bidding.

They've all been programmed, even Shirley...because it's not like they're just flat out evil people from the way it's portrayed...outside of the ministry bullshit, they seem fairly personable...it's just they've had the ideas of 'Gramps' driven into their heads from birth, so they accept without question and they fear what will happen to go against his will.

It's like the chick at the end...you can tell she's not happy, but at the same time, she can't comprehend anything outside of her current lifestyle. That is the dead giveaway that these kids are raised in some hardcore cult-esque surroundings their entire lives.

And the longer they're in it, the more impossible it becomes to bring them back...like, I don't think any amount of reasoning could bring Shirley back at this point...she's too deep. Even her older kids are on the bubble, even though they seem to have some conflict at times with the situation, because they've just had it cemented in them for so long.

The only ones that could probably be snapped out of it are the little kids, who still don't really know what's going on.

[led37zep]

Its a great doc for sure. I find myself feeling bad for all of them, Shirley included. You just see they are soooo deep in that there is no way for them to come back.

[HBox]

You Gonna Eat Your Babies!!!!!
(Check out the last 30 seconds of the second video.)

[johnniewalker]

I got distracted within 10 seconds...Most Beautiful Romanian Girl (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnwsw_most-beautifull-romanian-girl)

[moochcassidy]

You Gonna Eat Your Babies!!!!! (http://media.putfile.com/gramps-love-the-hosting)
(Check out the last 30 seconds of the second video.)


heres the link to gramps speech if you dont wanna watch the whole thing.

"yo gonna eat cho babies" (http://media.putfile.com/gramps-love-the-hosting)

[PapaBear]

If there was ever anything that should be ignored, it's these people. I'm not sure if I've ever commented on them in the past. If I did, I will (try to) never do it again, after this post.

[K.C.]

If there was ever anything that should be ignored, it's these people. I'm not sure if I've ever commented on them in the past. If I did, I will (try to) never do it again, after this post.


True...but, it is interesting from a psychological standpoint.

[Jubjubs]

Thanks for the links Mooch. I couldn't stop watching this last night. Complete madness, I tells ya.

[Midkiff]

fricking hayseed wackos

[hammersavage]

http://www.optonline.net/News/AP/Article?articleId=345066

finally. maybe these pigs will stop doing this shit to these people. maybe god DOES love fags after all.

[Gvac]

This is great news!

Only because I know Ron will have her on the phone tomorrow.

That Shirley...what a card!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Shirley Makes for Good Radio'

But Her Group is a Sack of Cunts, who will hopefully get whats fully coming to them

interrupting funerals, my word


:king:

[Judge Smails]

WTF is up with this banner ad I just got on this page? We're accepting their advertising now. I may have to jump ship to one of the other boards afterall:


http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CL-Z0fK4yJ6dvAEQ1AMYMTIIwu4KjDxIRuw

[TheMojoPin]

WTF is up with this banner ad I just got on this page? We're accepting their advertising now. I may have to jump ship to one of the other boards afterall:


http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CL-Z0fK4yJ6dvAEQ1AMYMTIIwu4KjDxIRuw

I think it's a random ad generator that tires to pull stuff related to the thread.

[Gvac]

WTF is up with this banner ad I just got on this page? We're accepting their advertising now. I may have to jump ship to one of the other boards afterall:


http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CL-Z0fK4yJ6dvAEQ1AMYMTIIwu4KjDxIRuw


Like you don't already have "The Pope Is On Fire" as your ringtone!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I think it's a random ad generator that tires to pull stuff related to the thread.


like the Arrested Development Ringtones, ya crum bum

:king:

[mikeyboy]

WTF is up with this banner ad I just got on this page? We're accepting their advertising now. I may have to jump ship to one of the other boards afterall:


http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CL-Z0fK4yJ6dvAEQ1AMYMTIIwu4KjDxIRuw

Yikes. We definitely didn't sell ad space to those psychos. Mojo is right, it's from one of those companies that sells ads and tries to match them with the text of the page. The site itself doesn't appear to be affiliated with the church, but rather some crappy ringtone company. As catchy as "the Pope is on fiyaaaaaaaaah....." is, I can't see Westboro ringtones being a selling point for anything.

[Badinia]

Speak for yourselves! I'm rocking out to "The Pope Is On Fire" on my Nokia now.

[Judge Smails]

Well, that's good to hear about the random generator. I guess I'm staying afterall. Aren't you guys all lucky? Oh, and fuck the Westboro Baptist Church.

[buzzard]

Fuck theirtight-lipped smiles...I sure hope Ronnie rings her up tomorrow!:thumbup:

[jetdog]

I hope this financial burden destitutes the founders of this "church" and they are forced into a life of providing happy endings to male and female alike, oh yeah and prostituting their daughters (from what I hear they might actually make some money on that).

[KnoxHarrington]

As much as I love the thought of Shirley Roper having to suck cock to buy food (well, not so much the thought of Shirley Roper sucking cock), this judgment gives me a bit of pause. Can we come up with a logical definition of what is a "private" function that should be protected from protesters that doesn't do larger harm to the 1st amendment?

This one does seem to be headed to the Supreme Court, eventually.

[ralphbxny]

she is crazily funny and disturbing! F her but she makes for great radio! Maybe the kids will have a new tune for us.

[jetdog]

As much as I love the thought of Shirley Roper having to suck cock to buy food (well, not so much the thought of Shirley Roper sucking cock), this judgment gives me a bit of pause. Can we come up with a logical definition of what is a "private" function that should be protected from protesters that doesn't do larger harm to the 1st amendment?

This one does seem to be headed to the Supreme Court, eventually.

I understand your question, i would suggest that the burying, or other ritualistic rite, of a relative is such a fundamental act that it can and should be granted protection in terms of a right to peace. Its a cheesy thing to say but, your rights end where another persons rights begin, and this is tricky to define, particularly with respect to honoring your dead family members, but I think it is important that we, as a society, are allowed to greive in peace.

[Devo37]

you're all a bunch of fag-enablers!!!

[Snacks]

As much as I love the thought of Shirley Roper having to suck cock to buy food (well, not so much the thought of Shirley Roper sucking cock), this judgment gives me a bit of pause. Can we come up with a logical definition of what is a "private" function that should be protected from protesters that doesn't do larger harm to the 1st amendment?

This one does seem to be headed to the Supreme Court, eventually.

I agree with you. Even though we all might hate what they do and wish they didnt do it, they do have the right to do this. It all comes down to freedom of speech. Once again I dont like what they say or do.

Maybe the PAC should get involved! This lawsuit is trying to censor people.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you're all a bunch of fag-enablers!!!

I do not endorse smoking cigarettes.

In any case When I first heard of Phelps and the WBC i was shocked at what they are doing, Still think its despicable, but with all the song parodies etc they are nothing but a bunch of looneys.

[Bulldogcakes]

As much as I love the thought of Shirley Roper having to suck cock to buy food (well, not so much the thought of Shirley Roper sucking cock), this judgment gives me a bit of pause. Can we come up with a logical definition of what is a "private" function that should be protected from protesters that doesn't do larger harm to the 1st amendment?

This one does seem to be headed to the Supreme Court, eventually.

Yep, that was my first reaction too. As much as I might or might not disagree with someone's speech, thats irrelevant. It should be protected. I saw nothing in the story that led me to believe they did anything other than exercise their speech rights, however wrongheaded and poorly timed they were. Also, I guess the Federal laws banning these protests was passed retroactively, since this was a Federal lawsuit and I was under the impression these protests had stopped at the military funerals since the ban. In any case, I suspect the law is unconstitutional.

I'd appreciate one of our fine (or not so fine) counselors on this board to weigh in here.

[sailor]

yeah, i was thinking the PAC should get involved as well.

[EliSnow]

I'd appreciate one of our fine (or not so fine) counselors on this board to weigh in here.


As the not so fine counselor, I have to say this is a very tough and close call.

As pretty much anyone knows, there are limitations to free speech. The most common example is the yelling "fire" in a public theater. And sometimes, there are "time, place, and manner" restrictions. You also can't exercise your right to free speech if it defames someone.

The tricky part, I think, is the claim for intentional infliction of emotional distress. With this claim, the person has to engage in extreme and outrageous conduct ( has to be outageous and heinous and beyond the standards of civilized decency or utterly intolerable in a civilized society). The conduct may be otherwise legal and still satisfy this category. So the First Amendment may not be a complete bar.

Some factors looked at by courts include whether (1) there was a pattern of conduct, not just an isolated incident; (2) the plaintiff was vulnerable and the defendant knew it; (3) the defendant was in a position of power; (4) racial epithets were used; and (5) the defendant owed the plaintiff a fiduciary duty. Clearly ## 1 and 2 apply here. So, while the First Amendment will be an argument here, it does not provide a complete bar.

Ultimately, what this means is that the context for the speech is important. If the church went on the air and said their views or when they were in a public square, that would be a vastly different story. But by going to someone's funeral, which is an emotionally charged situation, and doing what they do, that may cross that lime. Moreover, you have to take into account the families right to privacy. Arguably, a funeral at a cemetary is in a public place, but given what is happening, it can be argued to be a private act.

In addition, the conduct must cause severe emotional distress. Calling someone a "nappy-headed ho" would likely not suffice, but if you were to inform a woman who just gave birth falsely that her baby died, that would clearly cause such distress. There could be such distress in this case.

As a note, this claim was used by Falwell against Hustler when it had a cartoon claim that Falwell lost his virginity to his mother. The Supreme Court held that the First Amendment blocked the claim in that case because it was a parody about a public figure. That does not apply here.

Just some quick initial thoughts on this. I can't say for certain this judgment won't get overturned on First Amendment grounds, but I think it's a close call.

[Bulldogcakes]

Oh. Well then in that case, they're completely screwed.


or not.

[scottinnj]

I think the jury decision was correct, and will stand up to scrutiny in the courts.

1.The First Amendment gives you the right to say what you want, but does not give you the right to be listened to.

2. The Community Standards-the "I can't define pornography, but I know it when I see it"-stuff the court considers will allow the jury's decision to stand, because the community rejects hate speech and wants protections to keep from having it in their view when conducting personal business. It's one thing to stand on a streetcorner spewing this stuff, or any political view for that matter, it's another thing to go to a private function, uninvited and say it.

[cupcakelove]

I am all for free speech, but they cross some line that takes them from speech to this twisted assault on these families that have done nothing to them. I down for anything that stops them. I have feeling that when this is all over, the amount will be significantly reduced, or the thing will be thrown out all together.

[Midkiff]

fuck those fucking hayseeds in their filthy fuck-holes

[Yerdaddy]

As the not so fine counselor, I have to say this is a very tough and close call.

As pretty much anyone knows, there are limitations to free speech. The most common example is the yelling "fire" in a public theater. And sometimes, there are "time, place, and manner" restrictions. You also can't exercise your right to free speech if it defames someone.

The tricky part, I think, is the claim for intentional infliction of emotional distress. With this claim, the person has to engage in extreme and outrageous conduct ( has to be outageous and heinous and beyond the standards of civilized decency or utterly intolerable in a civilized society). The conduct may be otherwise legal and still satisfy this category. So the First Amendment may not be a complete bar.

Some factors looked at by courts include whether (1) there was a pattern of conduct, not just an isolated incident; (2) the plaintiff was vulnerable and the defendant knew it; (3) the defendant was in a position of power; (4) racial epithets were used; and (5) the defendant owed the plaintiff a fiduciary duty. Clearly ## 1 and 2 apply here. So, while the First Amendment will be an argument here, it does not provide a complete bar.

Ultimately, what this means is that the context for the speech is important. If the church went on the air and said their views or when they were in a public square, that would be a vastly different story. But by going to someone's funeral, which is an emotionally charged situation, and doing what they do, that may cross that lime. Moreover, you have to take into account the families right to privacy. Arguably, a funeral at a cemetary is in a public place, but given what is happening, it can be argued to be a private act.

In addition, the conduct must cause severe emotional distress. Calling someone a "nappy-headed ho" would likely not suffice, but if you were to inform a woman who just gave birth falsely that her baby died, that would clearly cause such distress. There could be such distress in this case.

As a note, this claim was used by Falwell against Hustler when it had a cartoon claim that Falwell lost his virginity to his mother. The Supreme Court held that the First Amendment blocked the claim in that case because it was a parody about a public figure. That does not apply here.

Just some quick initial thoughts on this. I can't say for certain this judgment won't get overturned on First Amendment grounds, but I think it's a close call.



Thank you for this.

I can't imagine a scenario where protesting a funeral can't be construed as more an intent to inflict emotional damage than to express protected political speech. It's a fucking funeral. That would apply to anti-war protesters and it sure as fuck applies to these pieces of shit.

I still can't wait for one of the Phelps kids to get caught with an ass-load of sperm. It's only a matter of time.

[sailor]

Thank you for this.

I can't imagine a scenario where protesting a funeral can't be construed as more an intent to inflict emotional damage than to express protected political speech. It's a fucking funeral. That would apply to anti-war protesters and it sure as fuck applies to these pieces of shit.

I still can't wait for one of the Phelps kids to get caught with an ass-load of sperm. It's only a matter of time.

sounds fun.

http://antiprotester.com/westboromembers.jpg

wait, you meant phelps boys? ewwwwww

[Yosammity]

In any case, I doubt they'll ever pay a dime. They're lawyers and can keep up the battle in the courts indefinitely. They'll pay out just about as much as O.J. has.

[EliSnow]

In any case, I doubt they'll ever pay a dime. They're lawyers and can keep up the battle in the courts indefinitely. They'll pay out just about as much as O.J. has.

First, no one can keep up a court battle indefinitely. Yes, it could take awhile, and could get to the Supreme Court, but it will get finalized. Also, it costs a lot of money to make appeals. They're going to have to post a bond on the judgment while they are appealing, pay filing fees, etc.

Second, while the monetary award is big, the bigger win, I think, is the ruling that they are liable. That will likely stop them from doing such actions again rather than risk additional large judgments.

[EliSnow]

I can't imagine a scenario where protesting a funeral can't be construed as more an intent to inflict emotional damage than to express protected political speech. It's a fucking funeral.


That's exactly it. They know the relatives and friends of the deceased are already emotionally distressed and vulnerable, and seek to increase that distress by saying that their loved one was damned by God because he/she fought for a country that accepts homosexuals.

Their "political"/religious message is that homosexuality is an abomination and we shouldn't accept it. They have a right to express that, but as with any right, there are limits. They may be liable for damage caused by expressing that message.

I generally have a right to chop down a tree in my yard, but if I do so in a way that makes the tree fall down into my neighbor's yard causing damage to the neighbor's property, and I intended it to do so, I'll have to pay for the damage.

[Freitag]

As the not so fine counselor, I have to say this is a very tough and close call.



Some factors looked at by courts include whether (1) there was a pattern of conduct, not just an isolated incident; (2) the plaintiff was vulnerable and the defendant knew it; (3) the defendant was in a position of power; (4) racial epithets were used; and (5) the defendant owed the plaintiff a fiduciary duty. Clearly ## 1 and 2 apply here. So, while the First Amendment will be an argument here, it does not provide a complete bar.




Wouldn't #4 apply as well, because of their signage? The epithets construe hate speech.

[Freitag]

I agree with you. Even though we all might hate what they do and wish they didnt do it, they do have the right to do this. It all comes down to freedom of speech. Once again I dont like what they say or do.

Maybe the PAC should get involved! This lawsuit is trying to censor people.

yeah, i was thinking the PAC should get involved as well.

This goes back to my point in the most recent PAC thread is that PAC should be less about censorship and more about responsibility and watching the watchdogs. Censorship, as the ACLU shows time and time again, is a very sharp double-edged blade.

It does surprise me that the ACLU hasn't gotten involved.

[EliSnow]

Wouldn't #4 apply as well, because of their signage? The epithets construe hate speech.

Maybe. The rationale as to why racial comments are outrageous conduct probably applies to other similar types of discriminatory speech.

I'm not sure whether the case law supports that argument.

[EliSnow]

It does surprise me that the ACLU hasn't gotten involved.

Maybe because they don't find it a worthwhile case to support.

[Freitag]

Maybe because they don't find it a worthwhile case to support.

Yes, but they have gotten involved in a LOT of "dirty" cases before.

[EliSnow]

Yes, but they have gotten involved in a LOT of "dirty" cases before.

Yes, but in certain ways, they are "purer" 1st Amendment cases, where they opposed a government action/regulation infringing outrageous speech. This is a civil lawsuit between two non-governmental parties where it's clear that the defendant is actually trying to harm vulnerable people through speech.

[topless_mike]

It does surprise me that the ACLU hasn't gotten involved.

not to start a debate, but the ACLU has a tendency to favor more democratic interests.
while they have flipped to help those on the more conservative side (senator craig, for example), its dead obvious that these folks are brainwashed extreme right-wing lunatics. Definatly not ACLU territory.

they do have the right to say what they wish, and i am all for that. thats what this country was founded upon. but time/place/manner has got to play a role. its common fucking sense. you dont do this at a wedding and definately not at a funeral.

i betcha if one of the family members would have beat the shit out of a protester, they would have gotten away with it (extreme mental stress or something like that).
actually, that would have perhaps swayed the public to further shun these wackos.

now that i think about it, later today i am going to write them a fuck you letter.

[TheMojoPin]

not to start a debate, but the ACLU has a tendency to favor more democratic interests.
while they have flipped to help those on the more conservative side (senator craig, for example), its dead obvious that these folks are brainwashed extreme right-wing lunatics. Definatly not ACLU territory.

they do have the right to say what they wish, and i am all for that. thats what this country was founded upon. but time/place/manner has got to play a role. its common fucking sense. you dont do this at a wedding and definately not at a funeral..

You're completely ignoring the legal framework that EliSnow has so helpfully spelled out in this thread. The ACLU doesn't take cases where people are blatantly attacking others in a time of extreme emotional distress in what essentially a very private moment. It's not like these people are fighting for their right to march down a street or have a rally in a park or a public auditorium or anything along those lines, all cases that the ACLU has fought for, on all sides of the political spectrum (neo-nazis, hello? It's not more extreme "right wing" than that).

Trying to use this as an excuse to go to the old well of painting the ACLU as "Left" is a complete false point. I'm gonna keep dragging this link out everyone decides to spout that the ACLU is always "anti-Right" or "anti-christian." (http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html)

[Fezticle98]

I read the thread title as "Westboro Baptist Church closes!" Oh well, one can hope.

O&A
FAG SIN
:drunk:

[Yerdaddy]

not to start a debate, but the ACLU has a tendency to favor more democratic interests.
while they have flipped to help those on the more conservative side (senator craig, for example), its dead obvious that these folks are brainwashed extreme right-wing lunatics. Definatly not ACLU territory.

they do have the right to say what they wish, and i am all for that. thats what this country was founded upon. but time/place/manner has got to play a role. its common fucking sense. you dont do this at a wedding and definately not at a funeral.

i betcha if one of the family members would have beat the shit out of a protester, they would have gotten away with it (extreme mental stress or something like that).
actually, that would have perhaps swayed the public to further shun these wackos.

now that i think about it, later today i am going to write them a fuck you letter.

Rick Santorum uses your posts as bedtime stories for his fetuses.

[Marc with a c]

westboro baptist church always win in the end

[EliSnow]

Just as an additional note, I don't know whether the damages award will be overturned for being too high, or whether on appeal, the judgement will be overturned because the plaintiffs did not prove that they suffered severe emotional distress as a result of the Church's actions. Both are possible.

[Bulldogcakes]

That's exactly it. They know the relatives and friends of the deceased are already emotionally distressed and vulnerable, and seek to increase that distress by saying that their loved one was damned by God because he/she fought for a country that accepts homosexuals.

Their "political"/religious message is that homosexuality is an abomination and we shouldn't accept it. They have a right to express that, but as with any right, there are limits. They may be liable for damage caused by expressing that message.

I generally have a right to chop down a tree in my yard, but if I do so in a way that makes the tree fall down into my neighbor's yard causing damage to the neighbor's property, and I intended it to do so, I'll have to pay for the damage.

I get your point, but wait a minute. They weren't protesting that dead soldier for anything about him individually, his funeral was just an opportunity for them to make their political protest. If the signs read "God Hates Joe Smith", then they are attacking him as an individual. But thats not what they did, they attacked America as a country, the military as an institution, and homosexuals for their sexual orientation. Sounds like broadly targeted, political speech to me. If its not political speech, I'll show you some of the signs people were carrying at the anti war marches here in NYC a few years back. Pretty vile, hateful stuff. But protected nonetheless, as it should be.

Lets reverse this. If G.L.A.D. (Gays+Lesbians Against Defamation) decided to protest at Jerry Falwells funeral, and held up signs saying "Thank God for Dead Gay Bashers" and "Gay Bashers Go To Hell" would that be protected? If so, why?

[scottinnj]

fuck those fucking hayseeds in their filthy fuck-holes


QFT

Good to hear from you Midkiff. Where have you been?

[torker]

westboro baptist church always win in the end

None on them.

[sailor]

the aclu is anti-right and anti-christian.

[scottinnj]

http://antiprotester.com/westboromembers.jpg


The only thing these girls should be doing is wiping soldier spunk off each other, cooking dinner, and washing clothes.

[TheMojoPin]

Lets reverse this. If G.L.A.D. (Gays+Lesbians Against Defamation) decided to protest at Jerry Falwells funeral, and held up signs saying "Thank God for Dead Gay Bashers" and "Gay Bashers Go To Hell" would that be protected? If so, why?

No. They're using the funeral/burial as a platform and as a target.

[SatCam]

SEMPER FI FAGS:glurps:

[Yerdaddy]

the aclu is anti-right and anti-christian.

http://dontmesswithtaxes.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/fish_hook_worm.gif

Almost got me!

[Yerdaddy]

I get your point, but wait a minute. They weren't protesting that dead soldier for anything about him individually, his funeral was just an opportunity for them to make their political protest. If the signs read "God Hates Joe Smith", then they are attacking him as an individual. But thats not what they did, they attacked America as a country, the military as an institution, and homosexuals for their sexual orientation. Sounds like broadly targeted, political speech to me. If its not political speech, I'll show you some of the signs people were carrying at the anti war marches here in NYC a few years back. Pretty vile, hateful stuff. But protected nonetheless, as it should be.

Lets reverse this. If G.L.A.D. (Gays+Lesbians Against Defamation) decided to protest at Jerry Falwells funeral, and held up signs saying "Thank God for Dead Gay Bashers" and "Gay Bashers Go To Hell" would that be protected? If so, why?

The only possible legal difference that I can see is that Falwell is a public figure while soldiers are not. However, as much as I dislike the man's public statements, I would hope the rights of Falwell's family to keep his funeral a private time and place for mourning would trump any conflicting right to express disagreements with his public positions. Afterall, if the man is dead you can't claim to be trying to protest the man, but only those who are mourning his death. Same as the soldiers' funerals. Whether the legal battle would be defined on those terms or not, I don't know.

Oh yeah, and I read in the local paper that the family said it plans to continue to protest soldiers' funerals. They just may dig themselves into a hole so deep that nobody can hear them at all anymore.

[EliSnow]

Lets reverse this. If G.L.A.D. (Gays+Lesbians Against Defamation) decided to protest at Jerry Falwells funeral, and held up signs saying "Thank God for Dead Gay Bashers" and "Gay Bashers Go To Hell" would that be protected? If so, why?

As Yerdaddy said, Falwell is a public figure. The law does treat public figures diferently. However, I think a good argument can be made that this should be treated the same as the Westboro situation. If it causes severe emotional distress, it may not be protected.

Also, to your other point that their message wasn't directed at the dead soliders, how can you say that. They are saying that God hates America, and that the bad stuff that happens to America is the direct result of God's wrath. Now, whether they actually say the specific words or not, the fact that they are at a funeral of someone who died serving this county is a message that the soldier died as a result of God's wrath against the country.

Plus, as I said, a funeral is already an emotionally distressing event. The actions here certainly add to that.

[Snacks]

As Yerdaddy said, Falwell is a public figure. The law does treat public figures diferently. However, I think a good argument can be made that this should be treated the same as the Westboro situation. If it causes severe emotional distress, it may not be protected.

Also, to your other point that their message wasn't directed at the dead soliders, how can you say that. They are saying that God hates America, and that the bad stuff that happens to America is the direct result of God's wrath. Now, whether they actually say the specific words or not, the fact that they are at a funeral of someone who died serving this county is a message that the soldier died as a result of God's wrath against the country.

Plus, as I said, a funeral is already an emotionally distressing event. The actions here certainly add to that.


how about this one.

Lets say a Dr who was an abortion Dr. died in a car accident and pro lifers showed up with signs saying "one less baby murderer". Would the Dr's family have the rights to sue them? I doubt they would win a penny.

Whats the difference between the stupidity of theses people and people who have hate demonstrations at gay events telling people to "repent" or "god hates fags" or "being gay is a choice" and many more of those types of signs? Isnt anyone saying negative things about someone else's life a stressful situation?

I dont agree with anything this awful religion/church says or stands for. But I do believe this is a bad judgment by the courts and will come back to fuck others.

[topless_mike]

in the end, anybody with common sense will just tune these idiots out and they will go away.

[EliSnow]

how about this one.

Lets say a Dr who was an abortion Dr. died in a car accident and pro lifers showed up with signs saying "one less baby murderer". Would the Dr's family have the rights to sue them? I doubt they would win a penny.

There are several points here that I addressed above. First, yes, I think the abortion doctor could sue if the actions cause severe emotional distress. Now, it could be argued that because the doctor was a doctor who performed abortions, his family was probably used to those type of protests, and thus the demonstration would not cause severe emotional distress.

Whats the difference between the stupidity of theses people and people who have hate demonstrations at gay events telling people to "repent" or "god hates fags" or "being gay is a choice" and many more of those types of signs? Isnt anyone saying negative things about someone else's life a stressful situation?

I dont agree with anything this awful religion/church says or standards. But I do believe this is a bad judgment by the courts and will come back to fuck others.



As to the next point, there are several imporant points here. First, there is a difference between this situation and having protests at gay events in that the people at a gay event are not vulnerable to severe emotional distress. Look at the factors I cited before, one of which was the plaintiff was vulnerable (emotionally) and the defendant(s) knew it, and went forward with their conduct. A funeral is a tremendous emotionally distressful event for the friends and relatives, especially when it's a young man or woman who has been killed as most of the dead soldiers are. You don't have the same emotional vulnerability at a public gay event.

Next, as I said, the claim requires that the actions must cause severe emotional distress --not just a "stressful situation." Yes, anti-gay demonstrators protesting at a gay event would cause some distress, but not the severe emotional distress that the law requires. And yes, there are standards to determining severe emotional distress, and they are high.

That's why I noted above that the church may be able to show on appeal that the plaintiffs failed to prove that the church caused severe emotional distress.

And finally, as to how this decision could "fuck others," it's a case easily distinguishable by its facts. It's use of speech at a funeral to cause emotional distress. Very few events have the same potential for such distress. Judges distinguish cases all the time, and I think this one is distinguishable, so it won't become a "slippery slope."

[mendyweiss]

Eli,
go tell the insurance company you work for to go fuck themselves,and go do some good.
You make sense.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Why doesn't anyone just throw water balloons or something at them while protesting? Just something that isn't illegal, but enough to throw them off their game?

[Bulldogcakes]

Also, to your other point that their message wasn't directed at the dead soliders, how can you say that. They are saying that God hates America, and that the bad stuff that happens to America is the direct result of God's wrath.


I said that they didn't attack this particular soldier as an individual. They attacked America, the military and homosexuals as groups and institutions. It still sounds very much like a broad based speech, and is political, not personal.

For example, I happen to like Yerdaddy a lot. Despite the fact he's a dope smoking pinko commie fag. See the difference?

[Yerdaddy]

It's for my glaucoma!

[EliSnow]

I said that they didn't attack this particular soldier as an individual. They attacked America, the military and homosexuals as groups and institutions. It still sounds very much like a broad based speech, and is political, not personal.

For example, I happen to like Yerdaddy a lot. Despite the fact he's a dope smoking pinko commie fag. See the difference?

There is a difference between your examples. You have to see their messages along with the context of their messages, as I said above. They are at the the funeral of someone who was killed fighting for an institution that they say God hates and is punishing. The clear import of their actions and message is that God is punishing the soldiers for fighting for America.

And if there wasn't some sort of personal component, then why are their protests at funerals of dead soldiers, rather than on public streets etc?

And for Yerdaddy example to be similar, you would have to go to Yerdaddy's funeral and say that God hates logic, and punishes those who use it.

[underdog]

The way Ron deals with Shirley Phelps-Roper is one of my favorite things about the Ron & Fez show. Everytime she's on any other show or on television, people try to have some sort of intelligent (ha!) discussion with her and it ends up in just people yelling at her, and Shirley looking like the sane one.

Ron just lets her look like the crazy one and is hilarious while he does it. The Evel Knievel stuff was killing me. Ron really can interview anyone.

Also, I think Shirley's views sound exactly the same to me as Dave's crazy ramblings about a Jesus with a giant sword the other day.

[PapaBear]

Your thread title had me thinking you thought Ron was Laverne.

[Tallman388]

Your thread title had me thinking you thought Ron was Laverne.

I guess that would make Dave "Lenny" and Fez "Squiggy"

[ralphbxny]

I Love the little ditty at the end. That shirley is quiet the singer....and Ron can ber Ruben Kinkade!

[underdog]

Your thread title had me thinking you thought Ron was Laverne.

I think we need a picture of Ron and Shirley working at the beer plant now.

[Doogie]

I guess that would make Dave "Lenny" and Fez "Squiggy"

So what character is Earl?? Is he Stix, since Laverne and Shirley were a spin-off of 'Happy Days'??

[underdog]

So what character is Earl?? Is he Stix, since Laverne and Shirley were a spin-off of 'Happy Days'??

Was there a character that got sent home and doesn't do his job?

[epo]

So what character is Earl?? Is he Stix, since Laverne and Shirley were a spin-off of 'Happy Days'??

Is he the infamous brother "Chuck Cunningham" who just disappeared?

[Freakshow]

Your thread title had me thinking you thought Ron was Laverne.

You thread title had me thinking there were old school O&A guests on the show today. Of course it would have had the word retarded in the title.

[SchnitDick]

She is just such great radio gold even High Society could do a great interview with her. And I think we all know Than and Sam would make it amazing

[underdog]

She is just such great radio gold even High Society could do a great interview with her. And I think we all know Than and Sam would make it amazing

I don't think she plays Wii or Guitar Hero so Than would have nothing to discuss with her.

[thepaulo]

Someone in my house won't let me listen to that batshit crazy bitch.....

[epo]

She is just such great radio gold even High Society could do a great interview with her. And I think we all know Than and Sam would make it amazing

Is this meant to incite some inane Than & Sam vs. High Society argument?

I punt sir!

[scottinnj]

I guess that would make Dave "Lenny" and Fez "Squiggy"

And Earl singing "I'd rather goto rags then riches!"

[cupcakelove]

I was really hoping Ron would talk about Winter Carnival more.

[torker]

You know I'd go from rags to riches

[Death Metal Moe]

I can't stand to hear her stupid mantra of bullshit. I turn her off everytime.

And did she call Ronnie stupid? Fuck your mouth you fucking cunt.

[underdog]

I can't stand to hear her stupid mantra of bullshit. I turn her off everytime.

I can't stand the woman, but you're really missing some great radio by turning it off.

It's basically Ron teasing a retard.

[moochcassidy]

was thinking about this yesterday. The very first time she was on, i didnt get it. i was disappointed ron didnt tear her apart...do a dragonwagon.

From day FEKKIN ONE he knew exactly how to handle this heurebag to find the funny.



still the best thing goin.

[SchnitDick]

Is this meant to incite some inane Than & Sam vs. High Society argument?

I punt sir!

Nothing to incite, after that saturday night I think it pretty obvious who the better show is :)

[zentraed]

I can't stand to hear her stupid mantra of bullshit. I turn her off everytime.

And did she call Ronnie stupid? Fuck your mouth you fucking cunt.

She likes to call him "dummy", and I would love to see the look that crosses his face when she does it. But he's right. Nothing he can do can make her look worse than just letting her talk.

[Death Metal Moe]

She likes to call him "dummy", and I would love to see the look that crosses his face when she does it. But he's right. Nothing he can do can make her look worse than just letting her talk.

I thought I heard that. She should reject her evil, non-Christian ways and BEG to be allowed to worship at the altar of Bennington.

Fucking wench.

[Death Metal Moe]

I can't stand the woman, but you're really missing some great radio by turning it off.

It's basically Ron teasing a retard.

I know what I'm missing. Everytime she's on I give it a couple minutes until I can't take it anymore. Ron does make her look foolish at every turn, I just don't want to hear it. If a majority of you enjoy it, then enjoy it. She's so horrible and wrong that I can't take it.

[underdog]

She's so horrible and wrong that I can't take it.

She really is. And watching the documentary about the family Fall From Grace makes you realize how fucking twisted these people really are.

Fred Phelps looks like pure evil.

The whole family looks like they have boils on their faces. They're fucking nuts.

[zentraed]

She really is. And watching the documentary about the family Fall From Grace makes you realize how fucking twisted these people really are.

Fred Phelps looks like pure evil.

The whole family looks like they have boils on their faces. They're fucking nuts.

I need to see this documentary. I didn't even know about it until yesterday.

[underdog]

I need to see this documentary. I didn't even know about it until yesterday.

Neither did I. But its on Showtime and replaying quite a bit.

I thought Showtime had good documentaries yesterday because I woke up and watched a Intelligent Design v Evolution documentary, then I hear Ron & Fez talking about the Phelps one. Showtime rules.

[moochcassidy]

Neither did I. But its on Showtime and replaying quite a bit.

I thought Showtime had good documentaries yesterday because I woke up and watched a Intelligent Design v Evolution documentary, then I hear Ron & Fez talking about the Phelps one. Showtime rules.

its on google video

'most hated family in america'

[underdog]

its on google video

'most hated family in america'

That's a different one. The one playing on Showtime right now is Fall From Grace, I believe.

She mentioned Most Hated Family In America was playing on Discovery in the States, but its not.

google video has everything. its awesome.

[moochcassidy]

That's a different one. The one playing on Showtime right now is Fall From Grace, I believe.

She mentioned Most Hated Family In America was playing on Discovery in the States, but its not.

google video has everyone. its awesome.

oopsie.

got link?

[underdog]

oopsie.

got link?

All they have on google video is the trailer, so far. I think it just premiered the other night, so it might need some time to get up there.

[TooLowBrow]

oopsie.

got link?

here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4282285533254611620&q=Most+Hated+Family+In+America&total=94&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1)

[underdog]

its on google video

'most hated family in america'

good call on this one, mooch. I just watched it.

The documentarian was fucking hilarious.

[WampusCrandle]

one of her daughter's is really hot. too bad they virginity is for the lord :glurps:

[ToLEEdo]

one of her daughter's is really hot. too bad they virginity is for the lord :glurps:

She can call me whatever she wants.

[sithlord]

She may be out of her mind but what a great guest. The way Ron plays off her throwing out fantastic line after line gets me every time. Todays interaction was classic.

[Chris from TX]

I know a lot of listeners are repulsed by her and change the channel while she is on Ron & Fez. I like her. She puts herself out there with her insane ramblings and picket signs. Nothing to hide.

I am much more disappointed and depressed with humanity when I see an H2, or listen to Top 20 on 20, or when their is some homophobe with abysmal grammar commenting on Youtube, or when someone wants to teach creationism in science class, etc., etc.

[buzzard]

deservedly so Ron has made her a pet of the Ron & Fez Show.often times he treats her like a chew-toy! the man is a genius.:clap:

[hunnerbun]

I am amazed at how unflappable she is. Ron comes at her with a comment and she is on it really quickly. Say what you want but she is almost as unflappable as Ron.
I love the interaction with them too. i usually laugh my ass off and roll my eyes at the same time.

[donnie_darko]

let's pretend that i'm a jesus robot, and i've got magic healing powers and you don't.

if only she was in studio and kenny allen could give her a call..

[Enabler]

With Shirley, it's all about the music. The tunes speak for themselves.

[drusilla]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=75690325

[Heather 8]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=75690325

Status: Swinger
Orientation: Bi

Giddy-up.

[smiler grogan]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=75690325
love peaches and what she teaches

[ruggedo]

I think ol' shirley really like Ron and will feel bad when he goes to hell.

[Kerouac72]

I live Kansas City, not far from Topeka where carzy phelps lives. I work next to a building next to a large cemetery. Last week we witnessed a full military funeral for a young man killed in Iraq. 21 gun, taps and all. It was quite moving even from our 8th floor window.
Her group of crazies was protesting outside of the funeral near an om ramp. Ages 7 to 70 had the "God hates fags" sign among others. It was very sad.
The moving part was the biker group, Patriot Guard that lined the cemetery with flags as they brought the body through. About 50 bikers with flags lining the road.

[codenhead]

Though I HATE Shirley's views...its amazing how much chemistry her and Ron have on air.


Shirley for 3rd mic in 08

[led37zep]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=75690325

It puts a smile in my soul that someone felt the need to make a fake myspace profile for her.
This line is made it all worth it " My father, my minister, and the giver of the seed of truth. In fact, he has given me his seed several times. They are now named Grace Phelps-Roper, 11, and Noah Phelps-Roper, 5."

[WampusCrandle]

whenever she is on, she just spews crazy and makes me feel really good about myself to know i am not like her