ECW Discussion

[cougarjake13]

<p>why does everyone keep bringing up russo</p><p>he's not a part of tna</p>

[Fallon]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br><p>why does everyone keep bringing up russo</p><p>he's not a part of tna</p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>

From LoP:
"Last night during WWE's RAW house show in Knoxville, TN, Voodoo Kin Mafia, Kip & BG James (formally the New Age Outlaws in WWE) showed up to continuing filming footage for their current "WWE invasion" storyline. They were accompanied by a camera crew, Vince Russo, announcer Jeremy Borash, and a group of "fans" that had TNA posters and VKM signs.

According to reports the TNA stars entered the Knoxville Civic Center as Triple H was making his entrance to take on Randy Orton. Fans began to chant TNA as they saw the stars in the upper level "nosebleed" seats. Triple H made no mention on the mic of the TNA stars being in attendance.

As of right now WWE has not made any attempts to ban the TNA crew from continuing to film footage."

[Don Stugots]

now after the hardys won the match why not have them go under the ring and pull out a set of tag champ belts?

[Tazz]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>why does everyone keep bringing up russo</p><p>he's not a part of tna</p><p>Yes, yes he is. </p>

[Don Stugots]

lashley won the belt.&nbsp; EcW is dead and buried.&nbsp; Paul Heyman tossed the dirt on the coffin himself.&nbsp; Terry Funk is rollin over in his grave, he aint even dead yet.&nbsp;

[K.C.]

<p>Yeah, I was just reading the recap. It sounds as if this was one of the all-time bad PPVs. Supposedly a few TNA chants during a few of the matches, too. The crowd also supposedly was extremely pissed off that they bumped Sabu from the chamber and then had Punk and RVD get eliminated early. </p><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />&nbsp; Terry Funk is rollin over in his grave, he aint even dead yet.&nbsp; <p>give it a few more days. </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by K.C. on 12-3-06 @ 10:50 PM</span>

[epo]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />lashley won the belt.&nbsp; EcW is dead and buried.&nbsp; Paul Heyman tossed the dirt on the coffin himself.&nbsp; Terry Funk is rollin over in his grave, he aint even dead yet.&nbsp; <p>As if I needed more reasons to hate Vince.&nbsp; Uggh.</p>

[Don Stugots]

the worst of it is that there is no alternative for wreslting fans.&nbsp; TNA is ok but not enough to hold my attention.&nbsp; EcW was perfect till Vince got involved.&nbsp;

[epo]

<p>The worst thing about ECW is that Vince obviously won't let Paul E. book it.&nbsp; I have such confidence in the man that I still think he could even write his way out of this mess.&nbsp; </p><p>That hope is the only reason I have any interest in the WWE whatsoever.&nbsp; In the meantime I'll watch TNA &amp; YouTube old matches from the 70 &amp; 80's.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[360legend]

If Heyman booked it, ECW would be a hell of a lot better off.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>360legend</strong> wrote:<br />If Heyman booked it, ECW would be a hell of a lot better off.<p>&nbsp;without a doubt.&nbsp; Heyman is a genius.&nbsp; i hope in 20 years the younger fans realize that. &nbsp; </p>

[360legend]

I'm only 19...so I qualify as a young fan.<br /><br />But regardless...I'm actually in training to become a pro wrestler, so wish me luck.

[ponelas park townie]

<p>Luck?</p><p>Just knock a few teeth out, get a mohawk&nbsp;and practice eating worms. You won't even have to train!!</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ponelas park townie on 12-4-06 @ 1:16 AM</span>

[Fallon]

<p>Holy shit what a bad pay-per-view. I gave them the benifit of the doubt by ordering it and not knowing the card. I was just hoping the EEC would be worth it and it was one of the most disapointing PPV main events I've ever ordered.</p><p>MNM can pull off some okay moves, but they are so fucking boring and The Hardyz just did the same old shit.</p><p>Striker vs Balls was awful. Should have been Striker vs Sandman, would have made more sense.</p><p>Burke and Turkey vs FBI was bad also, Trinity was the only highlight.</p><p>Dreamer vs Davari, suckfest.</p><p>Knox/Kelly vs Thorne/Ariel. Blah</p><p>The EEC, fucking BULLSHIT. First you take Sabu out of the match, then Punk gets eliminated first and shortly after so does RVD. It's fucking sad when the best move of the match was delivered by Test. I'm fucking livid at how bad this PPV was.</p><p>This would have been an awful house show, let alone a PPV. $40 down the drain.&nbsp;</p>

[willisjackson]

<font size="2">I Read that it was over @ 10:20 last night.&nbsp; That is terrible, you should try to get your money back</font>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The worst thing about ECW is that Vince obviously won't let Paul E. book it.&nbsp; I have such confidence in the man that I still think he could even write his way out of this mess.&nbsp; </p><p>That hope is the only reason I have any interest in the WWE whatsoever.&nbsp; In the meantime I'll watch TNA &amp; YouTube old matches from the 70 &amp; 80's.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>looks like you wont even have that anymore</p><p>PAUL HEYMAN FIRED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p><strong><font size="1"><a href="http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/heymanout">http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/heymanout</a></font></strong></p>

[Don Stugots]

holy shit.&nbsp; i wonder if its a work or for real?&nbsp; now there is the guy that TNA needs to run things on TV for them.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Tazz</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><p>why does everyone keep bringing up russo</p><p>he's not a part of tna</p><p>Yes, yes he is. </p><p>I thought i read somewhere that he was no longer a part of it</p><p>sorry my bad</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />holy shit.&nbsp; i wonder if its a work or for real?&nbsp; now there is the guy that TNA needs to run things on TV for them. <p>according to the article mcmahon is disgusted with the ratings and the roster being unhappy</p><p>doubt its a work because last year at this time he fired bischoff after a ppv with an elimination chamber, weird coincidence i guess</p>

[epo]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />holy shit.&nbsp; i wonder if its a work or for real?&nbsp; now there is the guy that TNA needs to run things on TV for them. <p>according to the article mcmahon is disgusted with the ratings and the roster being unhappy</p><p>doubt its a work because last year at this time he fired bischoff after a ppv with an elimination chamber, weird coincidence i guess</p><p>Good.&nbsp; Now I don't have to watch any more ECW out of any sense of loyalty.&nbsp; And Heyman is hopefully free to find a fed that will let him book.&nbsp; I would guess that if egos could be set aside, he, Cornette &amp; Russo could put together a hell of show.&nbsp; (Of course that would never happen, but it's a nice thought.)</p><p>Let's see Sabu is on the outs and RVD's contract is up in 6 months...ECW is all but dead (again).&nbsp; </p>

[jhawk57]

According to wwe.com, Heyman was sent home today by Vince.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />holy shit. i wonder if its a work or for real? now there is the guy that TNA needs to run things on TV for them. <p>according to the article mcmahon is disgusted with the ratings and the roster being unhappy</p><p>doubt its a work because last year at this time he fired bischoff after a ppv with an elimination chamber, weird coincidence i guess</p><p>Good. Now I don't have to watch any more ECW out of any sense of loyalty. And Heyman is hopefully free to find a fed that will let him book. I would guess that if egos could be set aside, he, Cornette &amp; Russo could put together a hell of show. (Of course that would never happen, but it's a nice thought.)</p><p>Let's see Sabu is on the outs and RVD's contract is up in 6 months...ECW is all but dead (again). </p><p>&nbsp;OH-OH-OH-OH i just had a great idea for TNA: RVD, SABU, RHINO &amp; THE DUDLEYS form team HARDCORE in ECW with HEYMAN as the manager.&nbsp; its great. </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />holy shit. i wonder if its a work or for real? now there is the guy that TNA needs to run things on TV for them. <p>according to the article mcmahon is disgusted with the ratings and the roster being unhappy</p><p>doubt its a work because last year at this time he fired bischoff after a ppv with an elimination chamber, weird coincidence i guess</p><p>Good. Now I don't have to watch any more ECW out of any sense of loyalty. And Heyman is hopefully free to find a fed that will let him book. I would guess that if egos could be set aside, he, Cornette &amp; Russo could put together a hell of show. (Of course that would never happen, but it's a nice thought.)</p><p>Let's see Sabu is on the outs and RVD's contract is up in 6 months...ECW is all but dead (again). </p><p>&nbsp;OH-OH-OH-OH i just had a great idea for TNA: RVD, SABU, RHINO &amp; THE DUDLEYS form team HARDCORE in ECW with HEYMAN as the manager.&nbsp; its great. </p><p>but who would they fued with ???</p><p>LAX ???&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; reform team canada ???</p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />holy shit. i wonder if its a work or for real? now there is the guy that TNA needs to run things on TV for them. <p>according to the article mcmahon is disgusted with the ratings and the roster being unhappy</p><p>doubt its a work because last year at this time he fired bischoff after a ppv with an elimination chamber, weird coincidence i guess</p><p>Good. Now I don't have to watch any more ECW out of any sense of loyalty. And Heyman is hopefully free to find a fed that will let him book. I would guess that if egos could be set aside, he, Cornette &amp; Russo could put together a hell of show. (Of course that would never happen, but it's a nice thought.)</p><p>Let's see Sabu is on the outs and RVD's contract is up in 6 months...ECW is all but dead (again). </p><p> OH-OH-OH-OH i just had a great idea for TNA: RVD, SABU, RHINO &amp; THE DUDLEYS form team HARDCORE in ECW with HEYMAN as the manager. its great. </p><p>but who would they fued with ???</p><p>LAX ??? reform team canada ???</p><p>&nbsp;they fued with everyone.&nbsp; groups would have to be formed just to fight them. &nbsp; </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />holy shit. i wonder if its a work or for real? now there is the guy that TNA needs to run things on TV for them. <p>according to the article mcmahon is disgusted with the ratings and the roster being unhappy</p><p>doubt its a work because last year at this time he fired bischoff after a ppv with an elimination chamber, weird coincidence i guess</p><p>Good. Now I don't have to watch any more ECW out of any sense of loyalty. And Heyman is hopefully free to find a fed that will let him book. I would guess that if egos could be set aside, he, Cornette &amp; Russo could put together a hell of show. (Of course that would never happen, but it's a nice thought.)</p><p>Let's see Sabu is on the outs and RVD's contract is up in 6 months...ECW is all but dead (again). </p><p>OH-OH-OH-OH i just had a great idea for TNA: RVD, SABU, RHINO &amp; THE DUDLEYS form team HARDCORE in ECW with HEYMAN as the manager. its great. </p><p>but who would they fued with ???</p><p>LAX ??? reform team canada ???</p><p>&nbsp;they fued with everyone.&nbsp; groups would have to be formed just to fight them. &nbsp; </p><p>so they'd be just like NWO</p><p>btw&nbsp; stu what happened to your boobies????</p>

[360legend]

Paul Heyman has been fired. Officially.<br /><br />Fuck the WWE. Fuck 'em. Vince doesn't deserve my time anymore.

[Kevin]

Where did you hear this? Do you have a link to back up your statement?

[green_bay_jake]

<strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><p style="background-color: #ffff99">The worst thing about ECW is that Vince obviously won't let Paul E. book it.&nbsp; I have such confidence in the man that I still think he could even write his way out of this mess.&nbsp; </p><p>That hope is the only reason I have any interest in the WWE whatsoever.&nbsp; In the meantime I'll watch TNA &amp; YouTube old matches from the 70 &amp; 80's.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;_________________________________________________ __________________________________________</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>maybe&nbsp;he&nbsp;did&nbsp;write&nbsp;his&nbsp;way&nbsp;out&nbsp;of&nbsp;this.&nbsp;&nbsp;i'm&nbsp;not&nbsp;1 00%&nbsp;sure&nbsp;this&nbsp;isn't&nbsp;a&nbsp;work.&nbsp;&nbsp;everything&nbsp;i've&nbsp;read &nbsp;</p><p>about&nbsp;it&nbsp;(especially&nbsp;the&nbsp;wwe&nbsp;stuff)&nbsp;gets&nbsp;reactions &nbsp;from&nbsp;&quot;originals&quot;&nbsp;and&nbsp;&quot;newcomers&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;i&nbsp;could&nbsp;se e&nbsp;an</p><p>angle&nbsp;where&nbsp;heyman&nbsp;tries&nbsp;to&nbsp;lead&nbsp;a&nbsp;rebel&nbsp;group&nbsp;of&nbsp; &quot;originals&quot;&nbsp;vs.&nbsp;the&nbsp;new&nbsp;&quot;corporate&quot;&nbsp;ecw.&nbsp;&nbsp;then &nbsp;</p><p>again,&nbsp;he&nbsp;could&nbsp;just&nbsp;be&nbsp;fired.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br />Where did you hear this? Do you have a link to back up your statement?<p>&nbsp;kevin, its posted on WWE.com and now on Lordsofpain.net.&nbsp; sorry, i dont know how to link. &nbsp; </p>

[Kevin]

<a href="http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/heymanout">Damn! It us true</a>

[360legend]

I actually found out on wrestlezone, and since you've already found the link, you won't be needing mine, huh? :P

[ponelas park townie]

<strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>STUGOTS1</strong> wrote:<br />holy shit. i wonder if its a work or for real? now there is the guy that TNA needs to run things on TV for them. <p>according to the article mcmahon is disgusted with the ratings and the roster being unhappy</p><p>doubt its a work because last year at this time he fired bischoff after a ppv with an elimination chamber, weird coincidence i guess</p><p>Good. Now I don't have to watch any more ECW out of any sense of loyalty. And Heyman is hopefully free to find a fed that will let him book. I would guess that if egos could be set aside, he, Cornette &amp; Russo could put together a hell of show. (Of course that would never happen, but it's a nice thought.)</p><p>Let's see Sabu is on the outs and RVD's contract is up in 6 months...ECW is all but dead (again). </p><p>&nbsp;OH-OH-OH-OH i just had a great idea for TNA: RVD, SABU, RHINO &amp; THE DUDLEYS form team HARDCORE in ECW with HEYMAN as the manager.&nbsp; its great. </p><p>Actually, I think I've had enough ECW nostalgia. </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ponelas park townie on 12-6-06 @ 1:37 AM</span>

[Don Stugots]

townie, that wouldnt make a good stable?&nbsp; TnA could benefit from WWE's lack of imagination and maybe crave out its own niche.

[ponelas park townie]

Monty Brown sucks.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>ponelas park townie</strong> wrote:<br />Monty Brown sucks. <p>shit i havent watched yet&nbsp; did he show up at ecw ???</p>

[willisjackson]

<strong>ponelas park townie</strong> wrote:<br />Monty Brown sucks. <p>I disagree.&nbsp; His post match interview was entertaining, especially when he responded to the crowd's &quot;what.&quot;&nbsp; First time I laughed at a promo in ECW since it came back.&nbsp; Much, much better than anything he had done in TNA.&nbsp; It seemed like Russo was trying to give him a Rock-like line in TNA with that stupid poouuunceee.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>willisjackson</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>ponelas park townie</strong> wrote:<br />Monty Brown sucks. <p>I disagree.&nbsp; His post match interview was entertaining, especially when he responded to the crowd's &quot;what.&quot;&nbsp; First time I laughed at a promo in ECW since it came back.&nbsp; Much, much better than anything he had done in TNA.&nbsp; It seemed like Russo was trying to give him a Rock-like line in TNA with that stupid poouuunceee.</p><p>but his name isnt monty brown its something else no ???</p>

[CruelCircus]

<p>So no one has any thoughts on Vince vs. &quot;The Originals&quot; from Tuesday?</p><p>&nbsp;I think a bit of a &quot;civil war&quot; between old and new could be a very interesting storyline if done right.&nbsp; Of course, if this is just going to be&nbsp;a series of squashes to finally finish off the old guard, then I'll be highly disappointed.</p><p>Sandman deserved better at the Rumble.&nbsp; The ECW guys all got big pops except for Holly and Thorn, and the crowd was livid when&nbsp;he went out so quickly.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Don Stugots]

it would be Bullshit much like the WcW invasion was.&nbsp; a great premise that they ruined.&nbsp;

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Don Stugots</strong> wrote:<br />it would be Bullshit much like the WcW invasion was.&nbsp; a great premise that they ruined.&nbsp; <p>i'd love for it to go well but like stu said they'll fuck it up</p><p>most likely though it'll be the way to get rid of the old guys</p>

[CruelCircus]

<p>So then here's the question:&nbsp; how would you book it?</p><p>How do you book an old vs. new angle that is equal parts respect for the old and helping the new get over, and doesn't completely squash every &quot;original?&quot;&nbsp; I'm interested to see the serious responses.</p><p>-----</p><p>Off the top of my head, my civil war would involve a coupla months of new ganging up on old, interference from McMahon and some RAW henchman, w/ the old putting up valiant efforts every time but&nbsp;maybe not always working together well.&nbsp;&nbsp;Each old guard win is punished by ambushes and beat downs.&nbsp; Perhaps CM Punk sides w/ the originals out of his respect for what they've done, or alternatively, he's forced against his will to fight for McMahon and Co. (Kelly will be fired if he doesn't?)</p><p>Finally, just as it seems all will be lost for the old guard (perhaps a losers leave ECW PPV), the calvary arrives in the form of the Dudley Boyz, who help bolster the originals to winning&nbsp;the best of 7 series&nbsp;(all clean finishes) at an ECW PPV, topped off with RVD regaining the title from a now heel Lashley.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by CruelCircus on 2-6-07 @ 2:34 AM</span>

[Notorious_JC]

<span class="Apple-style-span">whats gonna happen is the originals are gonna put up a good fight and will come out on top week after week after week, but when it comes to <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline">the</span>&nbsp;match, the new wrestlers are gonna squash.ÿ look at how vince treats the originals - as jokes and jobbers.ÿ when was the last time sandman won?ÿ balls mahoney is pretty over with the fans, and he is getting buried.ÿ and rvd.ÿ man, he is way over, people love seeing him and he is back to curtain jerking again.ÿ and this is partly his drug arrest, but mostly because vince wants his ecw to live on.ÿ he knows that most of the originals hate the current state of ecw, thats why they are all being buried.</span><div><br /></div><div>on a side note, dont expect to see cm punk doing much of anything these days.ÿ his pushed was killed because he was already over when he came in.ÿ they killed his momentum because people loved him before they were told to.</div>

[CruelCircus]

<p>I'm not sure how CM Punk's push has been killed.&nbsp; He was just one of the standout performers at the Royal Rumble, getting hefty praise from the announcers.&nbsp; At Survivor Series, he was teamed with DX.&nbsp; He was in the main event of the ECW PPV, although he went out way too early, but that whole match was booked terribly...</p><p>He's not in the ECW title mix right now, but that doesn't mean he's done.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<p>I think this will play out a lot like the WWE vs WCW vs ECW story line. The originals will play the part of wcw and the young guys will play the part of wwe. They're going to bury the real ECW originals, but have non-ECW originals be the heroes on their side. For example, maybe they'll put Lashley on the ECW originals side and have him squash all of the new guys. </p><p>I think ECW has a lot of great talent, but they have some crap talent that's being put over (IE. Striker), I really hope what I say above doesn't come to fruition, because it sounds very boring!</p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>Notorious_JC</strong> wrote:<br /><span class="Apple-style-span">&nbsp;</span><br />*&gt;on a side note, dont expect to see cm punk doing much of anything these days. his pushed was killed because he was already over when he came in. they killed his momentum because people loved him before they were told to.<p>&nbsp;i think you are right but it is a shitty way to run a business. </p>

[ponelas park townie]

Am I the only guy who actually likes Matt Striker?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm a fan of his independent work.ÿ He's a good worker and he can still be a heel without being a teacher.ÿ This New Breed vs. OG's war might be exactly what ECW needs to bring interest into it again. Actually, I could even see a ten man tag ECW Originals (Sandman, Dreamer, Sabu, RVD, Balls Mahoney) vs. The New Breed (Kevin Thorn, Marcus Cor Van, Matt Striker, Test, Elijah Burke) at Wrestle Mania.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by SpicyMcHaggis on 2-7-07 @ 5:02 PM</span>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>ponelas park townie</strong> wrote:<br />Am I the only guy who actually likes Matt Striker? <p>no he's cool i think he's real good as a heel</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>whats up with Kane Snitsky ???</p><p><img src="http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/large/29062/4103326" border="0" width="163" height="248" /></p>

[Matty_poo]

I seriously thought it WAS kane

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Matty_poo</strong> wrote:<br />I seriously thought it WAS kane <p>so did i when they were showing the preview trailer for him earlier in the show, and then at the end it said snitsky i was like damn </p>

[Matty_poo]

ah see, i turned it off a bit early, and look at what i miss

[SpicyMcHaggis]

To me it seemed strange to show a promo saying Snitsky is coming...and then arrive moments after the promo debuted.ÿ What the hell kind of build up is that?

[Matty_poo]

personally, it wouldn't matter if they gave him a year, i could really care less about snitsky

[Don Stugots]

pull the fucking plug.

[cougarjake13]

<strong>SpicyMcHaggis</strong> wrote:<br />To me it seemed strange to show a promo saying Snitsky is coming...and then arrive moments after the promo debuted.&nbsp; What the hell kind of build up is that? <p>yeh i didnt get that</p><p>usually there's a few weeks of build up</p>

[ponelas park townie]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>SpicyMcHaggis</strong> wrote:<br />To me it seemed strange to show a promo saying Snitsky is coming...and then arrive moments after the promo debuted.&nbsp; What the hell kind of build up is that? <p>yeh i didnt get that</p><p>usually there's a few weeks of build up</p><p>Don't blame Snitsky.</p><p><strong>It wasn't HIS FAULT!</strong></p>

[Matty_poo]

<strong>ponelas park townie</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>SpicyMcHaggis</strong> wrote:<br />To me it seemed strange to show a promo saying Snitsky is coming...and then arrive moments after the promo debuted.&nbsp; What the hell kind of build up is that? <p>yeh i didnt get that</p><p>usually there's a few weeks of build up</p><p>Don't blame Snitsky.</p><p><strong>It wasn't HIS FAULT!</strong></p><p>oh god, if they bring that back then it's over</p>

[willisjackson]

I read that Test is out due to the Wellness Policy, so Snitsky could be a focal point

[Kevin]

Snitski all bald like this looks like that old dude in the I am man Burger King commercial. The guy that is moving the truck that's strapped to his back while trying to get the whopper.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Ok, the Extreme Expose girls are nice to look at and all, but they look like a bunch of high school girls in a talent show who try their best to dance and can't get their coreography down.

[Kevin]

<strong>SpicyMcHaggis</strong> wrote:<br />Ok, the Extreme Expose girls are nice to look at and all, but they look like a bunch of high school girls in a talent show who try their best to dance and can't get their coreography down.<p>&nbsp;Holdon, hold..... Watching&nbsp; them made you think of coreography????</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Lets just say i may owe someone 10 bucks!!!!!<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/bye.gif" border="0" /> </p>

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Dude, like I said, they're hot, but the Nitro Girls at least looked hot and moved hot.ÿ They just look hot and awkward.<div><br /></div><div>By the way, does anyone think Snitsky looks like the guy from Pink Floyd's The Wall with his shaved eyebrow look</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>...wait a minute, who's making bets on me?</div>

[epo]

Is it me or does Snitsky have a little too much acne for a guy in a &quot;Wellness Program&quot;?

[Kevin]

<strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br />Is it me or does Snitsky have a little too much acne for a guy in a &quot;Wellness Program&quot;?<p>&nbsp;If he didnt look like shit, i would agree....</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>SpicyMcHaggis</strong> wrote:<br />Dude, like I said, they're hot, but the Nitro Girls at least looked hot and moved hot.&nbsp; They just look hot and awkward.*&gt;<br />*&gt;By the way, does anyone think Snitsky looks like the guy from Pink Floyd's The Wall with his shaved eyebrow look *&gt;<br />*&gt;<br />*&gt;<br />*&gt;<br />*&gt;<br />*&gt;...wait a minute, who's making bets on me? <p>actually its kelly that seems out of it, </p><p>the other 2 chicks seem to be in the same flow but its like kelly doesnt know what to do so shes like a second behind b/c she watching the other chicks to see what she should be doing</p><p>i still think that snitsky looks like a wannabe kane</p>

[Notorious_JC]

the whole idea is to make him the &quot;kane&quot; of ECW.ÿ it would work if he could actually wrestle.<div><br /></div><div>yea, kelly kelly is always one step behind.ÿ l like how they were doing a triangle between mike know knox, cm punk, and kelly and basically turned her into the nitro girls.</div>

[cougarjake13]

<p>austin will be on ecw tonight</p><p>in 5 minutes actually</p>

[Kevin]

NICE... I have to break my non watching ECW streak now.

[Bossanova]

Thats is awful.&nbsp; He shouldn't have to go there.&nbsp; But I will watch so I guess it worked.

[Bossanova]

Vince on the C show

[cougarjake13]

i guess we'll actually hear from him tonite

[Kevin]

Honestly, doesn't Billionaire bitch slap sound, kinda, really gay??

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br />Honestly, doesn't Billionaire bitch slap sound, kinda, really gay?? <p>matches well with the ecw champs voice </p>

[Bossanova]

His voice really doesn't fit his body type

[Kevin]

<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />His voice really doesn't fit his body type<p>&nbsp;Its like Tyson.</p>

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Yeah, I was thinking that too.ÿ He'd be better off with a manager.ÿ But I guess if you're a face you don't have a manger.ÿ Rebecca is a brain dead retard.ÿ She looks like Stephanie and does the same thing everytime.ÿ No personality whatsoever.ÿ Also, I was wondering when they were gonna see which side CM Punk is on.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by SpicyMcHaggis on 3-6-07 @ 10:23 PM</span>

[Kevin]

Is Austin resorting to Foley cheap pops??

[Bossanova]

Why is he doing this

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />Why is he doing this <p>the money </p>

[led37zep]

<p>I just watched the clip of Austin on ECW.&nbsp; He seems nothing like the Austin of old...in fact he just seems old.&nbsp; Hopefully he gets back to the Stone Cold of old in time for Wrestlemania. </p>

[ralphbxny]

I am really starting to not like wrestling. Stop it with stone cold. The guy cant walk. ECW isnt even extreme anymore.

[epo]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />His voice really doesn't fit his body type <p>&nbsp;Its like Tyson.</p><p>He kinda looks and talks like Wayne Brady.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />His voice really doesn't fit his body type <p>&nbsp;Its like Tyson.</p><p>He kinda looks and talks like Wayne Brady.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>agree</p><p>but </p><p>wayne brady on steroids</p>

[epo]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />His voice really doesn't fit his body type <p>&nbsp;Its like Tyson.</p><p>He kinda looks and talks like Wayne Brady.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>agree</p><p>but </p><p>wayne brady on steroids</p><p>True enough, but Wayne Brady is still a hard pill for &quot;old school&quot; ECW fans to swallow.</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p><strong>epo</strong> wrote:</p><p>He kinda looks and talks like Wayne Brady.</p><p>agree</p><p>but </p><p>wayne brady on steroids</p><p>True enough, but Wayne Brady is still a hard pill for &quot;old school&quot; ECW fans to swallow.</p><p>but its painfully evident that vince doesnt care for the old school fans</p>

[epo]

<p>but its painfully evident that vince doesnt care for the old school fans</p><p>You're dead right about that.&nbsp; It's such a shame, as those fans are great fans who are really loyal to a good product.&nbsp; </p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><p>but its painfully evident that vince doesnt care for the old school fans</p><p>You're dead right about that.&nbsp; It's such a shame, as those fans are great fans who are really loyal to a good product.&nbsp; </p><p>he probably figures that there's more younger kids who have no clue or idea what the original was and they'll soon outnumber the older audience and that's where he makes his money on the young kids that will grow up with the new ecw, accept it as real, and spend money on it </p>

[oh_kee_pa]

great mic foley interview... someone should tell snitsky he missed a patch of hair

[foodcourtdruide]

Is anyone else watching? Why are these strippers on my television? What is extreme expose?

[cougarjake13]

Is anyone else watching? Why are these strippers on my television? What is extreme expose?


3 hot bitches dancing one not so much (kelly) and making you want to jack it

[Bossanova]

I know they only have an hour, but I get tired of the 35 second matches.

[Kevin]

3 hot bitches dancing one not so much (kelly) and making you want to jack it

Kelly, has the worst coordination ever, She is still hot though... I am kinda digging the straight hair on the British black/mixed chick also..

[Bossanova]

Vince likes saying Bobby Lashley, and Lashley should never speak

[cougarjake13]

Kelly, has the worst coordination ever, She is still hot though... I am kinda digging the straight hair on the British black/mixed chick also..

i know shes supposed to bet he exhibitionist and the semi stripper dancer and she cant even fucking do that

brooke though she aint the prettiest of the 3 is the hottest to me from the way she dances, grinds and looks all slutty and attainable

[foodcourtdruide]

I'd rather see longer matches than 3 random women dancing for no apparent reason.

[Bossanova]

I don't even know these broads names. I would have rather seen Lashley in a tune up match. Him being the champ of this goddam brand and all. Or any actual wrestling.

[cougarjake13]

I don't even know these broads names. I would have rather seen Lashley in a tune up match. Him being the champ of this goddam brand and all. Or any actual wrestling.

kelly kelly the blonde

brooke the dark haired one

layla the dark one ( last diva search winner )

[Bossanova]

Thank you sir, now I can follow along

[cougarjake13]

Thank you sir, now I can follow along

they're just eye candy anyway

[SpicyMcHaggis]

The retarded blonde couldn't even keep her hat on. How do you do a Nitro Girl wannabe act when you can't even dance? And doing backflips where you almost break your neck doesn't count.

[Bob Impact]

Vince likes saying Bobby Lashley, and Lashley should never speak

Why not? (http://lashleycomeback.ytmnd.com/)

[cougarjake13]

The retarded blonde couldn't even keep her hat on. How do you do a Nitro Girl wannabe act when you can't even dance? And doing backflips where you almost break your neck doesn't count.

yeh and she gets worse every week

[Matty_poo]

layla the dark one ( last diva search winner )

can vince stop with the stupid diva search already, no one remembers them for longer than 45 minutes anyway

[cougarjake13]

can vince stop with the stupid diva search already, no one remembers them for longer than 45 minutes anyway

well hemme is in tna

ashley is still around and doing playboy

layal just won and is on ecw

thats hardly not remembering

[Kevin]

Why the fuck would they turn CM Punk heel? Just stupid.

[epo]

Why the fuck would they turn CM Punk heel? Just stupid.

They turned him heel? That's just a "what the fuck" kind of move.

[Kevin]

They turned him heel? That's just a "what the fuck" kind of move.

Yea, he had to chose between New Breed and Originals.. And picked "New Breed" Its so stupid..

[epo]

Yea, he had to chose between New Breed and Originals.. And picked "New Breed" Its so stupid..

That's insane. It's too early to turn the kid heel. Either bring him in as a heel (which he can do) or make it fucking matter when you turn him heel.

Jesus Christ. Is Dusty Rhodes booking this shit?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

As a matter of fact, yes he is. CM Punk's choice should have definitely been drawn out more. It would be interesting to see if Punk and Burke have a power struggle of sorts.

[cougarjake13]

maybe its a swerve and he's really gonna be with the originals

[Kevin]

maybe its a swerve and he's really gonna be with the originals

I was thinking that.. But i dunno.. Thy already had a hug match a WM.. Wouldn't this have been better leading up to WM? And have CM either turn heel by costing the Originals the win.. Or re turn face and cost the New Blood?? Just a bunch of monkeys, writing for WWE.

[JesterOfSadness]

Either way, that crowd last night sucked. It was like they didn't care.

But on their defense, I think ECW was on after smackdown, so maybe they were tired?

[cougarjake13]

I was thinking that.. But i dunno.. Thy already had a hug match a WM.. Wouldn't this have been better leading up to WM? And have CM either turn heel by costing the Originals the win.. Or re turn face and cost the New Blood?? Just a bunch of monkeys, writing for WWE.

yes that would have made a ton more sense

[epo]

I was thinking they could book this CM Punk heel turn pretty cool:


Next week have Striker job to Sandman. End of match, CM Punk comes out and promos about "straight-edge lifestyle" and how Sandman is merely a symbol of an "old ECW"...a "dead ECW" & that's why he turned. Sandman then starts talking shit and the entire New Breed hits the ring for a Sandman beatdown. New Breed escapes before the "Originals" can save the Sandman.
This sets up a short feud between CM Punk & the Sandman. CM Punk never drops a match to the Sandman and generally wins them cleanly. Most importantly they are remembered for CM Punk condemning the "ECW lifestyle" by the Originals & these fans right here in Cleveland!
Next up the "heart & soul" of ECW, Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer knows the plan, puts in some great spots and is allows to deliver a promo or two himself about "what ECW means" with CM Punk taking the "My only addiction is competition" bullshit. CM Punk again goes clean over an Original.
Now comes a move to solidify himself as the asshole of the day. After a great RVD win, CM Punk calls out RVD for being the "past". At one time it was cool for the past to include 4:20, but not in CM Punk's book. Needless to say they have a nice feud. Punk/RVD trade wins but at the PPV they'll settle it all. (Of course we know that RVD's contract is probably getting resigned, but he wants a 6 month vacation. This will give it to him.) Towards the end of a tough match, CM Punk looks to be in major trouble, but here comes the New Breed. Thru some interference RVD is "put in a bad way", like Dusty would say. RVD's leg is hurt, Punk wins and the New Breed beat him down clearly hurting his knee. This prompts Punk to take the mic and deliver the classic OVW "RVD....you just got PUNKED" line.
Of course a natural feud with Sabu then is in play.
Lashley could be vulnerable with the title as the McMahons could make it impossible for him to keep the title, transferring it to the clear leader of the New Breed. CM Punk is then out of control with ego.
Then 6 months after the "injury"....a returning babyface RVD is back for revenge.


But Vince & Dusty won't listen, cuz they hate me.

[Matty_poo]

well hemme is in tna

ashley is still around and doing playboy

layal just won and is on ecw

thats hardly not remembering

*cough* way to call me out for talking out my ass :P but i thougt there were more "divas" than that. and nope epo they won't listen, otherwise they'd have probably fixed one of the many problems

[cougarjake13]

*cough* way to call me out for talking out my ass :P but i thougt there were more "divas" than that. and nope epo they won't listen, otherwise they'd have probably fixed one of the many problems

when you say divas are you talking about the diva search divas ???

or all the chicks in wwe who are called divas ???

[Don Stugots]

i thought there was at least one more diva search winner.

[cougarjake13]

i thought there was at least one more diva search winner.

i only remember hemme, ashley, and layla

there was a 2003 diva winner but it was internet only and no contract and 250,000 grand prize

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Diva_Search

[edit] Contestants

[edit] 2004
Christy Hemme - Winner
Carmella DeCesare - Runner-Up
Joy Giovanni - 3rd Place
Amy Weber - 4th Place
Maria Kanellis - 5th Place
Tracie Wright - 6th Place
Michelle McCool - 7th Place
Chandra Costello - 8th Place
Camille Anderson - 9th Place
Julia Costello - 10th Place

[edit] 2005
Ashley Massaro - Winner
Leyla Milani - Runner-up
Elisabeth Rouffaer - 3rd Place
Kristal Marshall - 4th Place
Summer DeLin - 5th Place
Cameron Haven - 6th Place
Simona Fusco - 7th Place
"Alexis" - 8th Place

[edit] 2006
Layla El - Winner
Jen England - Runner-up
J.T. Tinney - 3rd Place
Milena Roucka - 4th Place
Erica Chevillar - 5th Place
Rebecca DiPietro - 6th Place
Maryse Ouellet - 7th Place
Amy Zidian - 8th Place

[cougarjake13]

It would be interesting to see if Punk and Burke have a power struggle of sorts.

looks like you're correct sir

[Kevin]

I guess tna didn't register the term alpha male..

[cougarjake13]

I guess tna didn't register the term alpha male..

nahh

actually even though its like the 2nd fed, they're kinda like and independent as tna doesnt own the naming rights to any of the stars,

at least i dont think they do cause a lot of those guys wrestle in other feds and independents and use the same name

[Kevin]

nahh

actually even though its like the 2nd fed, they're kinda like and independent as tna doesnt own the naming rights to any of the stars,

at least i dont think they do cause a lot of those guys wrestle in other feds and independents and use the same name

Well they did register prince of punk right before he signet with WWE..

[cougarjake13]

Well they did register prince of punk right before he signet with WWE..

yeh see i didnt know that

[cougarjake13]

i have a feeling that during this match

cm punk will end his affiliation with the new breed

[cougarjake13]

i have a feeling that during this match

cm punk will end his affiliation with the new breed

well maybe not tonight but it def looking that way

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Prediction:

CM Punk breaks up the New Breed from the inside so that ECW can go back to what it's supposed to be about, survival of the fittest.

[Johnny Manf]

ECW will never be what it used to be but I have to admit the whole CM Punk storyline is the first one I have been interested in since the new ECW started. I wasnt even too into the whole Orignals vs New Breed stuff. But for some reason this whole thing going on now with Punk is kinda cool. More WWE-like than ECW though but cool nonetheless.

[SPeeDy_Freak]

I was at the Smackdown/ECW show in Providence where CM Punk went with the New Breed.

the fans didn't react as they would have hoped. It makes little sense to put him with the group that is all "anti-ecw" wrestlers.

Vince is determined to kill what ECW stood for and unless he swerves CM to break up the New Breed from within, this is a waste.

As for the dancers during the show... another waste of 10 minutes. I know theu are shaking their moneymakers for all the horny teenagers out there... but I actually go to wrestling shows to watch the wrestling.

[cougarjake13]

they need to get some kind of continuity on the show

week to week ya never know who's coming from the other brands, fueds rarely last more than a week or two

and its basically the lashley/ new breed vs originals show

[Tully Blanchard]

Such a sad state of affairs. I do not know which is worse for Pro Wrestling, The New ECW or TNA.

[cougarjake13]

Such a sad state of affairs. I do not know which is worse for Pro Wrestling, The New ECW or TNA.

they both kinda suck right now

[Kevin]

two white guys teaming to beat up a black guy.. RACISTS!!!!!!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

So CM Punk, is He still a Face, or is he the Ultra Heel and wants New Breed Leadership

Yawn Who Cares!!!!!!!!!!

ECW Yick

:king:

[SpicyMcHaggis]

WWE.com's explanation: (Continued from their recap)

...But Punk did not take lightly to taking orders from Burke. The straightedge Superstar cost Burke and the New Breed their match against Rob Van Dam, Tommy Dreamer, Sabu, and Sandman. After the match, Punk didn’t appear apologetic as he stood over a fallen a Burke and said, with a smirk on his face, “I’m really sorry.”

With that, Punk walked out the ring alone. It is apparent that he is no longer a member of the New Breed – but he is not aligned with the ECW Originals, either. The straightedge Superstar showed that he stands alone and follows no one.

[cougarjake13]

WWE.com's explanation: (Continued from their recap)

...But Punk did not take lightly to taking orders from Burke. The straightedge Superstar cost Burke and the New Breed their match against Rob Van Dam, Tommy Dreamer, Sabu, and Sandman. After the match, Punk didn’t appear apologetic as he stood over a fallen a Burke and said, with a smirk on his face, “I’m really sorry.”

With that, Punk walked out the ring alone. It is apparent that he is no longer a member of the New Breed – but he is not aligned with the ECW Originals, either. The straightedge Superstar showed that he stands alone and follows no one.

so what the hell was the point ??????/

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Prediction:

CM Punk breaks up the New Breed from the inside so that ECW can go back to what it's supposed to be about, survival of the fittest.

I told ya so.

[cougarjake13]

I told ya so.

i believed ya so

[green_bay_jake]

vince as ecw champ? i'm pretty sure that is a sign of the oncoming apocalypse.

[cougarjake13]

vince as ecw champ? i'm pretty sure that is a sign of the oncoming apocalypse.

where ya been green bay ??

i think its the first sign

the 2nd being trips and tits love child becoming the IC champion

[cougarjake13]

edge is the new heavyweight champion as reported by tazz on ecw

they didnt give any details but thats what they are saying


he beat undertaker for the belt


heres it is on wwe.com


http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/edgepittsburghstealer

[J.Clints]

edge is the new heavyweight champion as reported by tazz on ecw

they didnt give any details but thats what they are saying


he beat undertaker for the belt


heres it is on wwe.com


http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/edgepittsburghstealer

I did not see that coming

[CYYYFYYY]

Why have Sandman if you are going to make him lose in 2 minutes to Snisky

[cougarjake13]

Why have Sandman if you are going to make him lose in 2 minutes to Snisky

b/c they didnt want him in TNA anymore

[cougarjake13]

reading about rob conways release made me realize where the fuck is rene dupree ???


they kept building him up and doing those stupid promos and i dont ever remember seeing him wrestle on the show

[SpicyMcHaggis]

So are they just getting lazier and lazier with ECW? They're not even using their own set now. It's the Smackdown set but the first isn't lit up. I know they've fucked up ECW but I just don't condone being lazy with a brand.

[epo]

So are they just getting lazier and lazier with ECW? They're not even using their own set now. It's the Smackdown set but the first isn't lit up. I know they've fucked up ECW but I just don't condone being lazy with a brand.

There's only one man that knows how to run ECW and he's sitting at home.

[Kevin]

Wtf happend to Ariel??? She is like half her size!!!! I liked her better the old way..

[Don Stugots]

There's only one man that knows how to run ECW and he's sitting at home.

actually, i am sitting at work. HAHAHHAAA.

[vjr97]

fired sabu!!?!?!? just flush the wwecw crap down the toilet already. 2 world champions is dumb .3 ? even dumber !!!!!!!!!! f/u vinny Mc. but id like 2 give stephenie some d/n/a right in here pretty face wwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

[King Imp]

Wtf happend to Ariel??? She is like half her size!!!! I liked her better the old way..

I don't watch this garbage anymore, so I can't comment.

Do you mean half size up top? If so, it's a dark day for Divas everywhere.

[Don Stugots]

Wtf happend to Ariel??? She is like half her size!!!! I liked her better the old way..

I don't watch this garbage anymore, so I can't comment.

Do you mean half size up top? If so, it's a dark day for Divas everywhere.

i just checked out WWE.com and looked at her latest pics. i love her new hair style but the weight loss and loss of boobs is unattractive.

[King Imp]

Hard to tell about her boobs from this latest photo shoot. It's rare to see her actually covered up like that.

[Don Stugots]

Hard to tell about her boobs from this latest photo shoot. It's rare to see her actually covered up like that.

which is what makes me wonder what they did to them. maybe nothing, she just might be going with a different look but boobs are not meant to be messed with.

[Kevin]

which is what makes me wonder what they did to them. maybe nothing, she just might be going with a different look but boobs are not meant to be messed with.

There was nothing wrong with her.. Sure she was a little meaty.. But she was so fucking hot.. Maybe she coulda lost a few pounds, but she has lost WAYYYYYYY too much..

[foodcourtdruide]

So.. CM Punk and Elijah Burke just had a really good NO DQ match (minus Punk's missed spot, where he fell off the top rope). The match ended with Marcus Cor Vons' sick running tackle on Punk into a table. How do you follow up a solid match? Vince McMahon threatening to beat up a guy that's 40 years younger than him and 100 pounds of pure muscle heavier.

Ohhhh, Vince is making fun of Joey Styles and Taz's names! This makes total sense. Joey.. what weird name.. yeah.. Joey.

Bobby Lashley. Ok, if you are watching. Lashley is wearing his "Dominate" shirt and it is ALSO hung up in the background. They must not be selling very well.

I just saw Vince McMahon with the ECW championship so I'm a little dizzy.

Hey Bobby Lashley talking about working hard. At least they're doing new things.

lol, ok funny line.
Vince: Have some respect, I'm old enough to be your uncle.
Lashley: My uncle? My Dad's uncle.

They are babbling. This is terrible. Why aren't they confronting each other in the ring? It's on split screen.

Having Orton get over on RVD is the least surprising thing in the world to me.

[foodcourtdruide]

AH GET THESE STRIPPERS WITH CLOTHES ON (extreme expose') OFF MY TELEVISION. OK I'M ABANDONING THE SHOW THIS WEEK.

[xample]

way to be for RVD winning at the PPV

i really didn't think that would happen.

[xample]

The WWE has put up a new article on WWE.com where they announced that Rob Van Dam will be out of action "indefinitely" and that his career may be over.


From lordsofpain.net and wwe.com

Obviously, this is a work created for the sole purpose of covering up the fact that Van Dam should be parting ways with the company shortly once his contract runs out. Van Dam, a former WWE & ECW Champion, was never able to reach a deal to renew his contract with World Wrestling Entertainment, and many people were speculating that One Night Stand would be the last time we saw RVD on WWE TV or PPV.

Here is a quote from the article itself:

It has been rumored for months that Van Dam was going to take time off from ring action to allow nagging injuries to heal. It now appears that he will have no other choice. There are also rumors that he may never be able to return to the ring.

We will keep you updated on this story and Van Dam's status in wrestling as more information is released.

[cougarjake13]

The WWE has put up a new article on WWE.com where they announced that Rob Van Dam will be out of action "indefinitely" and that his career may be over.


From lordsofpain.net and wwe.com

Obviously, this is a work created for the sole purpose of covering up the fact that Van Dam should be parting ways with the company shortly once his contract runs out. Van Dam, a former WWE & ECW Champion, was never able to reach a deal to renew his contract with World Wrestling Entertainment, and many people were speculating that One Night Stand would be the last time we saw RVD on WWE TV or PPV.

Here is a quote from the article itself:

It has been rumored for months that Van Dam was going to take time off from ring action to allow nagging injuries to heal. It now appears that he will have no other choice. There are also rumors that he may never be able to return to the ring.

We will keep you updated on this story and Van Dam's status in wrestling as more information is released.

how can it be a cover up when we all know what the real deal is ???

and then when he shows up in tna, how is his career over ???

fucking tards

[Kevin]

HOO HOO Elijah Burke is ripping Stugots off.. He has the Elijah Burke Experience..


TELL EM MONTY BROWN!!

[xample]

how can it be a cover up when we all know what the real deal is ???

and then when he shows up in tna, how is his career over ???

fucking tards

yeah i thought it was a bit ludicrous myself.. i'm pretty sure his WWE contract is out July 31.. i would imagine he would make his first TNA appearance no later than Jan '08

[Don Stugots]

HOO HOO Elijah Burke is ripping Stugots off.. He has the Elijah Burke Experience..


TELL EM MONTY BROWN!!

THAT SON OF A BITCH!

[SpicyMcHaggis]

How could ECW benefit by losing it's young stars? I keep hearing on news sites that Dusty Rhodes is pushing for ECW to be the place to debut the young stars, have them develop themselves more there before they move to another brand. I'm all for that. ECW could definitely benefit from having a fresh roster of stars we haven't seen before.

[xample]

I like the fact of ECW being used as a platform for the younger wrestlers to develop, but they should rename ECW then. Nothing about just developing young stars is Extreme.

[cougarjake13]

I like the fact of ECW being used as a platform for the younger wrestlers to develop, but they should rename ECW then. Nothing about just developing young stars is Extreme.

yeh it should just go back to calling it heat or velocity

[Chimee]

It could be OVW.

[xample]

yeh it should just go back to calling it heat or velocity

Yeah, it just sucks. It's pretty bad now, but after the "draft" it will be nothing more than a name. Obviously people would rather watch something tagged with ECW, but now it's really killing the original product.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah, it just sucks. It's pretty bad now, but after the "draft" it will be nothing more than a name. Obviously people would rather watch something tagged with ECW, but now it's really killing the original product.

i dont know if its killing the original b.c the true hardcore fans know its not the same and it wont taint the original ecw in their minds

the new fans have no idea of what it was really like so they have nothing to comapre it to

[xample]

i dont know if its killing the original b.c the true hardcore fans know its not the same and it wont taint the original ecw in their minds

the new fans have no idea of what it was really like so they have nothing to comapre it to

Oh yeah.. i know that.. but to even use the same name any more just isn't right... I could sleep better at night, if they just started calling the damn thing WCW. ha

[xample]

Is it wrong to be looking forward to the return of Hardcore Holly?

God, I hate this new ECW.

[cougarjake13]

Is it wrong to be looking forward to the return of Hardcore Holly?

God, I hate this new ECW.

didnt even realize he was missing

[xample]

Saw this on www.uwfusa.com (http://www.uwfusa.com)

http://www.uwfusa.com/images/sabu_returns.jpg

[Kevin]

Saw this on www.uwfusa.com (http://www.uwfusa.com)

http://www.uwfusa.com/images/sabu_returns.jpg

Wow.. Did the person who made the CT and Jiven poster make this one too?? TOP NOTCH.. FALLLLLLLON NOW!

[xample]

I realize this isn't an ECW match at all... but it is worth watching for the hardcore value.


Nasty Boys vs Cactus Jack & Maxx Payne-Chicago Street Fight - Spring Stampede 1994

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[epo]

So after Benoit wins the ECW Title, does he become the first guy ever to win the Heavyweight Title in WCW, WWE & ECW?

[Don Stugots]

So after Benoit wins the ECW Title, does he become the first guy ever to win the Heavyweight Title in WCW, WWE & ECW?

2nd, the big show was the first.

[epo]

2nd, the big show was the first.

Good call Stugots.

[Don Stugots]

Good call Stugots.

thanks. If Flair would have one the ECW belt he would be the champion of all champions, NWA, WCW, WWF, ECW. just saying.

[epo]

thanks. If Flair would have one the ECW belt he would be the champion of all champions, NWA, WCW, WWF, ECW. just saying.

Flair is definitely the MAN of our time.

[Don Stugots]

Flair is definitely the MAN of our time.

without a doubt. for me its Flair, Dusty, Andre, Race and then 5 others then Hogan.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

without a doubt. for me its Flair, Dusty, Andre, Race and then 5,000,000 others then Hogan.


fixed

:king:

[epo]

without a doubt. for me its Flair, Dusty, Andre, Race and then 5 others then Hogan.

I'll put Billy Graham, Nick Bockwinkel & the Original Sheik in there as well in front of Hogan.

[Don Stugots]

I'll put Billy Graham, Nick Bockwinkel & the Original Sheik in there as well in front of Hogan.

hell yeah. The Superstar set the bar for a lot of the guys we see today.

[epo]

hell yeah. The Superstar set the bar for a lot of the guys we see today.

Has there been a thread on who is the top 10 of the modern age? That could be an interesting discussion.

[King Imp]

I was just looking at the pics from the recent ECW show. Please tell me this guy was a plant.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/shows1/ecwonscifi/photos/4414274/100.jpg

If not, then this is absolutely pathetic.

[Kevin]

I was just looking at the pics from the recent ECW show. Please tell me this guy was a plant.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/shows1/ecwonscifi/photos/4414274/100.jpg

If not, then this is absolutely pathetic.

Of course he is.. And Vince is being killed because he did a 10 bell salute last night.. Rightfully so.. Thats known as a very sacred thing in wrestling.. Vince is just a douche.

[Heather 8]

Of course he is.. And Vince is being killed because he did a 10 bell salute last night.. Rightfully so.. Thats known as a very sacred thing in wrestling.. Vince is just a douche.

And unfortunately I know of a few feds in Jersey who are planning to do 10 bell salutes for the bastard this weekend. Personally, it disgusts me, but everyone else is telling me to lighten the fuck up.

[Kevin]

And unfortunately I know of a few feds in Jersey who are planning to do 10 bell salutes this weekend. Personally, it disgusts me, but everyone else is telling me to lighten the fuck up.


If i had a wrestler in the fam that died.. This would piss me off to no end.. But then again.. When has Vince ever given a shit about integrity? I am shocked the feds and other gov agency's are not stepping in and saying, leave our names out of this garbage.. You see this bullshit on WWE.com saying Feds searching Vince's office..

[oh_kee_pa]

In regards to the Vince thing... I didn't read all the posts, but, we have to remember this is no different then someone dying on Lost... its entertainment...

second, I'm excited to see what they do w/ ECW... alot of new names/talent to change things up a little... stupid moving sandman out, and hopefully the writers can do some good stuff

[Heather 8]

In regards to the Vince thing... I didn't read all the posts, but, we have to remember this is no different then someone dying on Lost... its entertainment...


No, there is a difference. The ten-bell is a sign of respect for those who have died. To use the salute to further a shitty angle is disgusting, in my opinion.

[oh_kee_pa]

No, there is a difference. The ten-bell is a sign of respect for those who have died. To use the salute to further a shitty angle is disgusting, in my opinion.

eh, i don't buy it... you can go back and find dozens of tv shows that have done the same thing... a funeral is a sign of respect as well... remember, its entertainment and meant to shock you and get you talking, which is what its doing.....

[cougarjake13]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/feature/29062/4920586




When Bobby Lashley was drafted to Raw, ECW was left without a champion. The ECW World Title picture, however, will begin to clear up this week on ECW on Sci Fi when Chris Benoit will face Elijah Burke, and CM Punk will battle Marcus Cor Von. The winners of these matches will move on to Vengeance: Night of Champions to compete for the ECW World Title.

Which two Superstars will compete for ECW's biggest prize? Watch ECW on Sci Fi and find out.

[cougarjake13]

i dont see any reason why it wont be cm punk vs benoit for the title

the wildcard of course is marcus cor von who they might have him win just to job to benoit so he gets the title and then have a lengthy fued with punk and benoit after

[BeltOfScotch]

i dont see any reason why it wont be cm punk vs benoit for the title

the wildcard of course is marcus cor von who they might have him win just to job to benoit so he gets the title and then have a lengthy fued with punk and benoit after

I hope it's your second thought that is right. Benoit-Punk is about the only thing ECW has that is remotely interesting. It should be built up over time instead of just throwing them together randomly 5 days before a PPV.

[J.Clints]

When Bobby Lashley was drafted to Raw, ECW was left without a champion. The ECW World Title picture, however, will begin to clear up this week on ECW on Sci Fi when Chris Benoit will face Elijah Burke, and CM Punk will battle Marcus Cor Von. The winners of these matches will move on to Vengeance: Night of Champions to compete for the ECW World Title.

Which two Superstars will compete for ECW's biggest prize? Watch ECW on Sci Fi and find out.

Also, Boogeyman grossed out both ECW fans and Matt Striker in his first trip in the Land of the Extreme. Watch out ECW – Boogeyman is coming to getcha! The only question is who is next on his worm-infested list.

And finally, watch ECW on Sci Fi for the latest on the mystery surrounding the presumed fiery demise of Mr. McMahon. All this and more on ECW on Sci Fi Tuesday at 10/9 CT.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm pulling for Benoit to win the title but for Punk to come out looking like a real contender for the title so that it'll be legit when he eventually wins it.

[Kevin]

And finally, watch ECW on Sci Fi for the latest on the mystery surrounding the presumed fiery demise of Mr. McMahon. All this and more on ECW on Sci Fi Tuesday at 10/9 CT.

I thought he was def dead??

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm actually excited for ECW this week! Marcus Cor Von vs CM Punk and Burke vs Benoit promise to be two very good matches. I'm also really excited to see Johnny Nitro in an ECW ring. ECW has a small, but very entertaining roster right now and could become the show to watch. There are no super hero's on ECW, which is refreshing. I'm SO tired of watching the entire roster job to Umaga and then Umaga job to Cena.

[JesterOfSadness]

I have a strong feeling that 40 minutes of the show is gonna be more of the mcmahon bullshit. Last weeks ECW was good, please..please let it continue.

[foodcourtdruide]

I have a strong feeling that 40 minutes of the show is gonna be more of the mcmahon bullshit. Last weeks ECW was good, please..please let it continue.

I know! I hope they only spend 15 minutes on the fake investigator and replying Steph's promo from last night. ECW has the ability to become a cult favorite, I wish they would let it separate from the flock.

[JesterOfSadness]

They seriously need to tape ECW seperately than Smackdown. The crowds are absolutely dead after the SD tapings, or WWE crowds just suck in general.

Good ECW so far...

[BeltOfScotch]

That 30 seconds of buildup for Punk Benoit was genius. Ugh.

[cougarjake13]

I thought he was def dead??

nope

they 've made a point of constantly saying presumed

which means its only a matter of time before he pops up and does a nelson from the simpsons

[xample]

So I was reading on Lordsofpain.net about a Viscera push.... which I like... he is one of the most athletic big men I have ever seen and he has cred... all the way back to his days as Mabel.

I'd love to see this go through and him return to the top.. instead of being utilized the way he has been the last several years.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Apparently the idea is to make him a One Man Gang type character.

[ralphbxny]

Why is ECW belt held by Nitro? What a horrible champ!!

[epo]

Why is ECW belt held by Nitro? What a horrible champ!!

Apparently they were gonna put it on Punk, but in the match at the PPV Punk got hurt and called for a quick finish, giving the victory to Nitro. I'm sure Punk will have the belt soon enough....

[cougarjake13]

Apparently they were gonna put it on Punk, but in the match at the PPV Punk got hurt and called for a quick finish, giving the victory to Nitro. I'm sure Punk will have the belt soon enough....

he called for a quick end ??? yet wrestled in a 2 out of 3 falls match 2 days later ???

[epo]

he called for a quick end ??? yet wrestled in a 2 out of 3 falls match 2 days later ???

I'd try to grab a dirtsheet claim....but there is no way in hell that I'm fishing thru that bullshit.

[xample]

This new ECW has gone through so many ups and downs... Nitro as the champion is middle of the road. I'm glad Lashley as moved on and that Vince is no longer champion, but I cannot forsee this Nitro/Punk fued lasting very long. Punk will either get the belt very quickly or Nitro may carry it for a while with someone else coming into the mix.

[NickyL0885]

But i wonder. With Benoit gone, ECW has an open roster spot. Do they replace him? I mean.....they did do the Draft. But, who would the put there. I like what they are doing in a way. All the young guys. Cor Von, Dukes, Punk, Nitro, even the Miz. ECW should be like AAA of wrestling. although i def see Punk moving to Raw one day.

[Kevin]

But i wonder. With Benoit gone, ECW has an open roster spot. Do they replace him? I mean.....they did do the Draft. But, who would the put there. I like what they are doing in a way. All the young guys. Cor Von, Dukes, Punk, Nitro, even the Miz. ECW should be like AAA of wrestling. although i def see Punk moving to Raw one day.

Man that still sounds so wierd to me..

[BeltOfScotch]

ECW should be like AAA of wrestling. although i def see Punk moving to Raw one day.

I've read that this is the plan, to make ECW more of a place for people to get their start on TV, see how they work out before putting them on Raw or Smackdown.

It actually makes sense, one of the big problems right now is that WWE won't give people the in-ring training time they need before throwing them on TV. Using ECW as a stepping stone to one of the top two shows could be helpful.

I found some videos I took from the TV taping at Hammerstein last year, who knew within a year people would long for the days of Big Show as ECW champion.

[xample]

I've read that this is the plan, to make ECW more of a place for people to get their start on TV, see how they work out before putting them on Raw or Smackdown.


I think that this has been stated many times before on here.... this is why we should just take an OVW/ECW combination and drop the ECW tag off the product.

[JesterOfSadness]

I think that this has been stated many times before on here.... this is why we should just take an OVW/ECW combination and drop the ECW tag off the product.

I agree somewhat, alot of the OVW roster really seems more like a huge job squad(save Burchill,Cabana, and a few others). especially if Stephanie really wants to bring up this guy as the next huge star:

http://www.ovwrestling.com/Superstars/Superstars/dan_rodman.htm,

WWE is fucked. And I say this, because this dude is terrible.

[Chimee]

Another week, another new ECW opener.

[Bob Impact]

I agree somewhat, alot of the OVW roster really seems more like a huge job squad(save Burchill,Cabana, and a few others). especially if Stephanie really wants to bring up this guy as the next huge star:

http://www.ovwrestling.com/Superstars/Superstars/dan_rodman.htm,

WWE is fucked. And I say this, because this dude is terrible.

http://www.ovwrestling.com/Superstars/Superstars/Dan%20Rodman/004.JPG

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Abdoulah the Viscera lol

Big Daddy V Hillarious

:king:

[SHANEFROMGA]

Abdoulah the Viscera lol

Big Daddy V Hillarious

:king:

i think i just threw up in my mouth a little

[foodcourtdruide]

Good match between Stevie and Punk. Miz really needs some work.

[Kevin]

i think i just threw up in my mouth a little

That was nasty.. Vis had bigger boobs then the divas..

[foodcourtdruide]

This Miz really stinks and I really hate him.... saying that he'll probably win the ECW title within 3 weeks.

[foodcourtdruide]

Please get these clothed strippers off my television!!!!!!!!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

This Miz really stinks and I really hate him.... saying that he'll probably win the ECW title within 3 weeks.


hooo rahh

nobody beats the MIZ

Meh, He wil do semi squashes and then become a semi jobber to newer gimmicks

Im semi done with this semi post

:king:

[foodcourtdruide]

Really good match between Dream and Nitro! The Garbage Can spot was really good!

[xample]

My thoughts on Tuesday's show...

I love how all the ECW originals lost. Fucking Vince.

I'm glad Viscera got "repackaged", but give the man a shirt. We don't need to see that.

Stevie Richards should get a push again after his match. He can still wrestle at the highest level, and that bout with Punk was certainly proof positive.

The Dreamer/Nitro match was OK. I'm glad Nitro didn't completely squash Tommy, but all in all... the match had a quick and horrible ending.

This was one of the better WWECW shows that I've watched, but it's still painful to see my boys lose week after week to the likes of Elijah Burke and so forth.

[foodcourtdruide]

My thoughts on Tuesday's show...

I love how all the ECW originals lost. Fucking Vince.

I'm glad Viscera got "repackaged", but give the man a shirt. We don't need to see that.

Stevie Richards should get a push again after his match. He can still wrestle at the highest level, and that bout with Punk was certainly proof positive.

The Dreamer/Nitro match was OK. I'm glad Nitro didn't completely squash Tommy, but all in all... the match had a quick and horrible ending.

This was one of the better WWECW shows that I've watched, but it's still painful to see my boys lose week after week to the likes of Elijah Burke and so forth.

The ending to the match was bad, but I like that Nitro was willing to take some abuse. It looks like ECW is leaning more towards Extreme, which is good. There is definitely a hole at the top of their main event roster, but I think it could easily be filled with someone from Smackdown or Raw. I think Chavo Guerrero or Matt Hardy would be good.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

As much as I hate to say it, Bobby Lashley was definitely a big loss. I definitely think Matt Hardy would do well on the brand. It would also have been nice to see what would have happened had Angle stayed on board.

[foodcourtdruide]

As much as I hate to say it, Bobby Lashley was definitely a big loss. I definitely think Matt Hardy would do well on the brand. It would also have been nice to see what would have happened had Angle stayed on board.

I don't think Lashley was that big of a loss. He was completely detached from ECW. He barely had matches with anyone other than Umaga or McMahon during his time there.

[Don Stugots]

As much as I hate to say it, Bobby Lashley was definitely a big loss. I definitely think Matt Hardy would do well on the brand. It would also have been nice to see what would have happened had Angle stayed on board.

I don't think Lashley was that big of a loss. He was completely detached from ECW. He barely had matches with anyone other than Umaga or McMahon during his time there.

i agree with druide about lashley. i do think the whole in the roster is Benoit. He was going to be the top guy and would have made alot of OLD ECW fans happier with the product for a short time.

[JesterOfSadness]

I agree with Foodcourt, it just seemed he didn't belong there at all. There was barely any real competition for him.

[xample]

It was good for Lashley to use ECW as a platform at the time, but he did not fit the bill.

Either of the Hardyz would be good, but I don't forsee that happening. There is definitely a weakness of main eventers, but I don't know who is going to fill that void.

[cougarjake13]

its looking like the ecw championship is now gonna be what the IC belt used to be

a springboard to the world title main event picture




but one good thing is i think for like the first time since the new ecw started we actually have 2 guys from ecw in a ecw title match

there may have been a test, hardcore holly, or rvd vs whoever the champ was but i cant remember

[foodcourtdruide]

I don't think ECW becoming the WWE minor leagues is a bad thing at all. I just hated someone from Raw coming in and making the entire roster look like a joke.

[cougarjake13]

I don't think ECW becoming the WWE minor leagues is a bad thing at all. I just hated someone from Raw coming in and making the entire roster look like a joke.


exactly if they're gonna make it the minor leagues then dont call it ecw and try to be extreme

but they wont do that cause they want the money that using the new ecw will bring which alienates the old fans but the new fans dont know so they just accept it and are happy to have a 3rd show to watch

[xample]

Scenario: Let's say all the remaining originals eventally are gone... even with Tazz and Joey still doing commentary, can we then hope for a name change?

[cougarjake13]

Scenario: Let's say all the remaining originals eventally are gone... even with Tazz and Joey still doing commentary, can we then hope for a name change?

no


what would be the reason for the name change???

and what would they call it ???

[xample]

no


what would be the reason for the name change???

and what would they call it ???

I don't know. I'm just not comfortable at all with it being ECW now... sometimes it reminds me of watching WCW Saturday Night.

Let's just call it Thunder, because we all know that worked out well!

[Don Stugots]

i am all for Smackdown being renamed WcW.

[xample]

i am all for Smackdown being renamed WcW.

I wanted that for so long... esp. when Booker was part of the brand.

[cougarjake13]

i am all for Smackdown being renamed WcW.

I wanted that for so long... esp. when Booker was part of the brand.

that would be a good idea, also would help with the rubes who'd think it was real and make it feel more like 2 separate brands

[Don Stugots]

i would also change the company's name back to WWF. fuck the panda bear.

[cougarjake13]

i would also change the company's name back to WWF. fuck the panda bear.

but then he couldnt come up with lame "entertainment " storylines anymore

[Don Stugots]

but then he couldnt come up with lame "entertainment " storylines anymore

correctamundo!

in other words, shut up and wrestle.

[cougarjake13]

correctamundo!

in other words, shut up and wrestle.

wont happen as long as the mcmahon-hemsleys own the company

[JesterOfSadness]

correctamundo!

in other words, shut up and wrestle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/Jesterofsadness/rohwlogo.jpg

There you go.

[cougarjake13]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/Jesterofsadness/rohwlogo.jpg

There you go.

when does their ppv's start ???

[BeltOfScotch]

when does their ppv's start ???

I think it started on some networks July 1st, it's not available everywhere though. It's called Respect is Earned. It came out good.

[JesterOfSadness]

On July 20th InDemand will show it, which they also say that it'll repeat through July and August.