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Foster
06-29-2006, 04:38 AM
<font size="3"><font size="2">I saw Superman Returns lastnight and was a little disturbed with the ending, Superman flying off to let Lois and her "boyfriend" raise his son. I also can't help but feel sorry for the boyfriend, Lois still loves Superman, and Superman still loves Lois, it's just a matter of time before this guy's left at the curb. </font></font>
LongIslandRob
06-29-2006, 04:43 AM
<p>it's a movie. get over it. </p>
<p>I was going to try and lobby a <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/80/Topic/42020/page/Ladies_and_Gentlemen______This_is_Superman" target="_self">locky</a> on this, but I decided to respond since it is blatant spoiler talk.</p><p>In order to survive and have as normal a childhood as possible, Superman was given up by his birth parents and raised by the Kents. When he was old enough, his real father and mother revealed themselves to him through the crystals, and even though they were dead, they helped him.</p><p>Superman can't be with Lois and can't raise the child - he wants the kids to have as normal a life as possible, and Lois' boyfriend/husband isn't a bad guy. Superman may even see in him the qualities Jonathan Kent had. He also knows that one day, the boy will know the truth, and Superman will help him cope with it.</p><p>What he said by the kid's bedside was word for word the final words Superman's father (Marlon Brando) said to him as he put the baby in the spaceship at the beginning of the first Superman movie. I thought it was quite effective.</p>
Foster
06-29-2006, 04:56 AM
<p><font size="2">AKA wrote</font></p><p><em>In order to survive and have as normal a childhood as possible, Superman was given up by his birth parents and raised by the Kents. When he was old enough, his real father and mother revealed themselves to him through the crystals, and even though they were dead, they helped him.</em></p><p><em>Superman can't be with Lois and can't raise the child - he wants the kids to have as normal a life as possible, and Lois' boyfriend/husband isn't a bad guy. Superman may even see in him the qualities Jonathan Kent had. He also knows that one day, the boy will know the truth, and Superman will help him cope with it.</em></p><p><em>What he said by the kid's bedside was word for word the final words Superman's father (Marlon Brando) said to him as he put the baby in the spaceship at the beginning of the first Superman movie. I thought it was quite effective.</em></p><p><br />I get the reasons behind having the boyfriend raise the kid, my point is it's just not going to turn out to well for this new guy. Besides that how do you compete with Superman. Yes, this guy is being played up as a great guy and a hero in his own right, but come on his chick's ex-boyfriend is Superman, that has to be bothing him.</p>
<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by foster on 6-29-06 @ 8:56 AM</span>
phixion
06-29-2006, 06:01 AM
am i the only one who was pissed that they acted like the other movies really happened but just happened to forget that lois lane knows clark is super man? you cant do half and half
Gmann
06-29-2006, 07:11 AM
<p>At the end of Part 2, the one where she finds out Clark is Superman, didnt Clark give her a huge wet one and she "magically" forgot he was Superman ?? </p><p>Yeah it makes no sense to me either. Kinda like the part where Superman throws that saran wrap S on the really big guy flying towards him. </p>
<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br />am i the only one who was pissed that they acted like the other movies really happened but just happened to forget that lois lane knows clark is super man? you cant do half and half <p><font size="1">As <span class="name"><font face="verdana" color="#000000">Gmann said, they took the cheap way out in Part 2 and had Superman give her a Super mind erasing kiss - one of several convenient things they did to plug up the plot in the original movies that have no baring in the super worlds.</font></span></font></p>
Foster
06-29-2006, 10:24 AM
<font size="2">Kind of like how Zod and kronies could shoot "ray beams" from there finger tips, anything went back then. Does Lois even remember sleeping with Superman, maybe she thinks the kid is the other guys.</font>
fezident
06-29-2006, 10:50 AM
<p>You're right. Lois' memory was a bit inconsistent.</p><p>She (obviously) knew her kid was a super-baby but, then again...she has her memory wiped when she got the hypo-kiss at the end of Superman II. How would she <em>know</em> the kid doesn't belong to Cyclops?? </p><p>I hate to pick nits during a movie about a guy that can turn the earth backwards but, still....gimme a LITTLE continuity!</p>
<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by fezident on 6-29-06 @ 2:51 PM</span>
Tenbatsuzen
06-29-2006, 10:56 AM
<p> </p><strong>fezident</strong> wrote:<br /><p>You're right. Lois' memory was a bit inconsistent.</p><p>She (obviously) knew her kid was a super-baby but, then again...she has her memory wiped when she got the hypo-kiss at the end of Superman II. How would she <em>know</em> the kid doesn't belong to Cyclops?? </p><p>I hate to pick nits during a movie about a guy that can turn the earth backwards but, still....gimme a LITTLE continuity!</p>
<span class="post_edited">This message was edited by fezident on 6-29-06 @ 2:51 PM</span><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Is it possible she slept with Superman, not Clark off-screen?</p><p> </p><p>Plus, with the piano-toss, it's possible she didn't know the kid was super until that moment. Remember, she steadfastly said the kid was Cyke's, and the kid identified Cyke as Daddy, not Richard. I'd also think that she had no idea the kid was Clark's - when Luthor was holding the kryptonite at the kid, she didn't shield to protect him. She had a look on her face like, "WTF are you doing, crazy man?"<br /></p><p> </p><p>It's completely plausible that the Richard-Lois relationship began in Lois' despair once Supes left.</p><p> </p>
Foster
06-29-2006, 11:11 AM
<font size="2">For Lois to think the baby could belong to Richard she must of jumped in bed with him when they first met; THAT WHORE! Unless Krypo-babys stay in the womb a bit longer?</font>
fezident
06-29-2006, 11:53 AM
<p>Wow. We came away from that scene with opposite impressions.</p><p>When Lex approached the baby (holding Kryptonite) and asked "who is that baby's father?", it really looked to me like Lois was nervous and "guilty". It appeared to me that she was hiding something.</p><p>I'm seeing it again tomorrow (in 3D!) so, I'll watch more closely this time.</p>
phixion
06-29-2006, 11:59 AM
<p>yeah your right i completely forgot about the copout at the end of the second one. andby the by was i the only one walking out of the theatre thinking about mallrats</p><p><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0518718/"><strong>T.S. Quint</strong></a>: But they're engaged. <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0005134/">Brodie</a></strong>: Doesn't matter, can't happen. <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0518718/">T.S. Quint</a></strong>: Why not? It's bound to come up. <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0005134/">Brodie</a></strong>: It's impossible, Lois could never have Superman's baby. Do you think her fallopian tubes could handle the sperm? I guarantee you he blows a load like a shotgun right through her back. What about her womb? Do you think it's strong enough to carry her child? <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0518718/">T.S. Quint</a></strong>: Sure, why not? <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0005134/">Brodie</a></strong>: He's an alien, for Christ sake. His Kyrptonian biological makeup is enhanced by earth's yellow sun. If Lois gets a tan the kid could kick right through her stomach. Only someone like Wonder Woman has a strong enough uterus to carry his kid. The only way he could bang regular chicks is with a kryptonite condom. That would kill him. <br /></p>
Doctor Manhattan
06-30-2006, 06:38 AM
<strong>fezident</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Wow. We came away from that scene with opposite impressions.</p><p>When Lex approached the baby (holding Kryptonite) and asked "who is that baby's father?", it really looked to me like Lois was nervous and "guilty". It appeared to me that she was hiding something. </p><p> </p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">I was not so sure that the Kryptonite was really effecting the kid. He is only have Super, so maybe he isn't affected by it, Or perhaps since his powers are not in full affect (if being half Super, he will have more power than he does now)</font></p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">Did the crystals have that "Just Add Water" action in the original movies? Or the EMP effect when activated? Clark through the green one into the snow in Superman (1978) but since it was the arctic I guess there was nothing for an EMP to affect.</font></p>
<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 6-30-06 @ 10:38 AM</span>
fezident
06-30-2006, 06:57 AM
<p>Hey Doc,</p><p>Lois KNEW that the kid was half kryptonian. When Lex was approaching her child -while holding kryptonite- she appeared nervous. As if, even <em>she</em> didn't know if it would harm him. </p><p>She just wasn't acting like a normal mother at that moment. There was someting "off" about her behavior. So much so, that even Lex was inspired to ask the question "who IS that baby's father?" </p><p> </p><p>Then again, Lex knew that Lois and Supes were in a relationship (Superman II) so, maybe he just put 2 & 2 together. Shit. I dunno.</p><p> </p><p> </p>
Doctor Manhattan
06-30-2006, 08:07 AM
<p><font color="#000099" size="2">I'm not too worried about how Lois looked during that scene. I'm sure she knows that Jason is Kal-El's son. Kate's not a good enough actress for me to worry about reading anything into that scene.</font></p><p><font color="#000099" size="2">I was just wondering if Kyptonite has any affect on him, It doesn't hurt humans (at least short term, since it is radioactive, I'm sure it would cause problems over time) maybe Jason is immune.</font></p><p><font color="#000099" size="2" /></p><p><font color="#000099" size="2">I love the slow flying/floating/levatating stuff that Kal-El did in this movie. It was great seeing him fly at high speeds when he needed to get somewhere fast but also slow fly in the place of walking at times.</font></p>
<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>yeah your right i completely forgot about the copout at the end of the second one. andby the by was i the only one walking out of the theatre thinking about mallrats</p><p><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0518718/"><strong>T.S. Quint</strong></a>: But they're engaged. <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0005134/">Brodie</a></strong>: Doesn't matter, can't happen. <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0518718/">T.S. Quint</a></strong>: Why not? It's bound to come up. <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0005134/">Brodie</a></strong>: It's impossible, Lois could never have Superman's baby. Do you think her fallopian tubes could handle the sperm? I guarantee you he blows a load like a shotgun right through her back. What about her womb? Do you think it's strong enough to carry her child? <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0518718/">T.S. Quint</a></strong>: Sure, why not? <br /><strong><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0005134/">Brodie</a></strong>: He's an alien, for Christ sake. His Kyrptonian biological makeup is enhanced by earth's yellow sun. If Lois gets a tan the kid could kick right through her stomach. Only someone like Wonder Woman has a strong enough uterus to carry his kid. The only way he could bang regular chicks is with a kryptonite condom. That would kill him. <br /></p><p><strong>Again</strong> - back to the second movie - Superman shed his powers so he could have sex with Lois. His Mama clearly says that if he wants to be with her, he has to give up his power to do so. That's why he is so incredibly horned up all the time he sees her - because he can't have her. </p><p>I tell you - as many holes are there in the first two movies, Singer and Company really covered their bases with this one.</p>
phixion
06-30-2006, 10:14 AM
<p>ok AKA your making me go rent that damn evil second movie soon. but even if he shed his powers a) he changed genetically so his son couldnt have his powers, b) brodies second point about lois getting a tan and the baby being so strong he could kill her with his baby kicks would have to be true if (a) is false</p>
Foster
06-30-2006, 10:26 AM
<font size="2">I know this is out of left field , but what if all those drugs Lois has the kid taking are somehow affecting his Krytonian development, causing an immunity to Krytonite. Where she gets them I have no idea, but I find it hard to believe Superman's kid is such a wimb.</font>
<strong>phixion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>ok AKA your making me go rent that damn evil second movie soon. </p><p><strong>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!</strong></p><p>Please don't put that kind of pressure on me! "Supe2" is an awful movie. </p><p>but even if he shed his powers a) he changed genetically so his son couldnt have his powers, b) brodies second point about lois getting a tan and the baby being so strong he could kill her with his baby kicks would have to be true if (a) is false</p><p>Could be, but they definatelly hinted in this movie the kid's powers were a bit muted.</p>
cougarjake13
07-01-2006, 04:19 AM
<p>havent seen anyone mention this yet but what if the kid is a result of clark/supes and lois getting it on after he got rid of his super powers in the fortress of solitude in superman 2, wouldnt that make the kid just a normal kid with no powers at all ???</p><p>also in the 1st superman lex from seemingly out of nowhere associates a meteorite that fell to earth to be kryptonite and somehow knows that it can kill him ??? another problem i have is when lois is interviewing she asks him questions like is it true you can see through things,etc. we were just introduced to him how would anyone know those things yet</p><p> </p><p><img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" /></p>
redfin
07-03-2006, 06:44 PM
<p>My feelings on Superman Returns: Blah...how disappointing this movie was. Superman used to stand for truth, justice, the American way, right? This new version, he just seemed like an obsessed, confused, creepy stalker -- complete with a little B & E. Just awful.<br /><br />I found the film to be way long winded; when my son had to go to the bathroom in the middle, I didn't mind at all walking out of the theater for a few minutes. I knew I wouldn't miss anything important.<br /><br />Lex Luthor's big master plot was, oh so weak -- What happened to the criminal mastermind? Ugh. I'm usually a fan of all of Spacey's work, but it was terribly flat to me. Maybe I'm tainted by Gene Hackman's Luthor, but I always imagined Luthor to have so much more bravado, to be more of a braggert -- just more flamboyant, for lack of a better word. Spacey just played him like a kook. He had a few of those head turning stares, which worked so well for him as the phychotic in Se7en, but not so here.<br /><br />The kid, ugh, the kid, I think he's Haley Joe Osmond's retared little cousin. He had so few lines, but tons of screen time. Singer just seemed to keep him around as an ornament...just trying to force him into being an important part of the story, but there was never any emotional attachment at all to the character.<br /><br />So, OK, check this out Superman goes away for 5 years and mysteriously returns (which was weakly played out on the screen, by the way). So how is Jimmy Olsen still a college aged looking kid with homo-erotic feelings for Clark Kent? And how is this 20-something looking Lois Lane, winning the Pulitzer, and a world reknown newspaper reporter? Please somebody name a famous newspaper reporter, other than Woodward & Bernstein (and I believe they're only famous because they made a movie about them) The casting was just so wrong for me -- everybody was just too young and pretty to be a believable part of the story.<br /><br />The screen, sets, and CGI were weak, to me, as well. With the latest Star Wars, King Kong and recent others, I've grown to expect a certain standard for special effects. There was one scene in particular, when supes was flying with Lois, where the green screen effect was terribly distorted with artifacts. It looked like they used old film from the original Superman movie with Reeves. As far as special effects, there really wasn't any WOW factor for me at all.<br /><br />All in all the biggest problem of the whole thing is just plain and simple really -- there was absolutely no action & adventure. Nothing of what the Superman story really is -- a fun, edge of the seat story where you really want to get behind the superhero who's saving the world from a super-villian. It was just an overtold story about, what seemed, a mentally challenged stalker who foils a terribly ill concieved and very uncreative plan to kill off the world or something, and get rich or something like that. ech. Oh and there's a half-tard kid in there too for some reason or another. </p>
<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by redfin on 7-3-06 @ 10:49 PM</span>
cougarjake13
07-03-2006, 06:50 PM
<p>i agree that the plot was weak, and the kid was there i guess to add more tension betw supes and lois, and i guess also to make you wonder if its supes kid </p><p>i too liked hackmans luthor a lot better, and i guess since eveyone in the first 4 supermans seemed or looked like they were in their 30's we just got used to them as our ideals for the characters and know we have these 20 somethings, with the exception of spacey</p>
fezident
07-03-2006, 07:24 PM
<p>I think the real problem with the new Superman movie is also what's wrong with the new Star Wars movies and that is: I just don't CARE about any of the characters.</p><p>Something has changed with movies recently. The audience doesn't get attached to any characters. When ObiWan got killed in Star Wars...people GASPED. They were shocked. When QuiGon died...did anybody give a shit? </p><p>When Lois Lane died in Superman, people couldn't believe it! It was unthinkable that Superman was not fast enough to rescue her. That was an attachment to her as a character. </p><p>Now...movies are made in such a way that, the audience doesn't care. </p><p> </p><p>Maybe it's the crappy cartoony CGI effects. Maybe it's the product placement. Maybe it's the fact that every action movie is now a 2 hour commercial for the soundtrack and the video game. Whatever it is....the audiences are disinterested. And now they're introducing a Superbaby?! Whooo caaares?! Totally not needed to continue this franchise. Isn't it a bit early to introduce an "Cousin Oliver" to this new series? </p><p> </p><p>Superman Returns has a MILLION unnecessary flaws. Stuff like that takes me right out of the movie. Either make a sequel or start fresh. Don't randomly pick and choose which plot devices can carry over from the first franchise to the new one. It's confusing and distracting. Again, Star Wars did the same thing. No continuity! If you're gonna go back to that universe, go back to that universe. If you're gonna change a bunch of shit...then make a spin-off or, god forbid, a whole new story.</p><p> </p>
Sheeplovr
07-04-2006, 06:41 PM
<p>the 3d imax is nuts</p><p>its fun but dont go if you dont have good
glasses or perfect vision i jsut found out from it my left eye must be
messed up cause it got blurry when i put on the 3d specs so i had to
left eye squint</p><p>man and whats with the end credits why are they so fast</p><p>i totaly didnt get to see who best boy grip is </p>
Tenbatsuzen
07-04-2006, 08:44 PM
<p> </p><strong>Sheeplovr</strong> wrote:<br /><br /><p>i totaly didnt get to see who best boy grip is </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1640874/" target="_self">Stuart Bell.</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>
Sheeplovr
07-05-2006, 06:39 AM
he did a good job best boy griping nania<br />
Doctor Manhattan
07-05-2006, 07:41 AM
<strong>redfin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>And how is this 20-something looking Lois Lane, winning the Pulitzer, and a world reknown newspaper reporter? Please somebody name a famous newspaper reporter, other than Woodward & Bernstein (and I believe they're only famous because they made a movie about them) The casting was just so wrong for me -- everybody was just too young and pretty to be a believable part of the story.<br /></p><p> </p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">Did they say Lois Lane was a household name? If you win a Pulizter, I'm sure you become a big name among people in the press, but I don't think they tried to make it seem like she was a huge celebrity (of course if she tied her career into Superman, maybe she is)</font></p>
Don Stugots
07-05-2006, 08:14 AM
<p>I saw the movie yesterday morning at the Imax theather in the city. what a great movie! (no wait, Double exclamation point?) ! (yes)</p><p>i was totally engrossed in the movie that i didnt even notice that my ass was hurting from sitting in the seat for over 2 hours. I liked the plot twists with the son being his own. I liked seeing him keep touch with his earltly mothere. The new boyfriend brought in what was a love triangle (a love square?). i liked the leather cape as opposed to the old cloth one. </p><p> </p><p>great movie, bravo. i would do to see it twice more.</p>
FUNKMAN
07-05-2006, 08:14 AM
<p>saw it last night... for the most part enjoyed it</p><p>as usual there's at least one situation/scene that doesn't seem to make and kind of sense. at first when he's on the new land mass and it has krytonite embedded throughout the mass, he loses his power and they beat the snot out of him. a short time later he's lifting the whole new land mass that still has the kryptonite embedded throughout but he still has enough strength to carry it into space???? WTF</p>
JustJon
07-05-2006, 09:44 AM
<p>Didja miss the part where he went above the clouds and recharged himself in the sunlight?</p><p>Maybe Jason being half-Kryptonian is more of a smallville deal, where he doesn't really start to develop his powers till puberty. </p>
Doctor Manhattan
07-05-2006, 10:04 AM
<strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Didja miss the part where he went above the clouds and recharged himself in the sunlight? </p><p> </p><p><font style="background-color: #ffffff" color="#000066" size="2">He also dug under the "Luther grown" land mass, to lift both into space. And then the Kyponite from Luther's continent started to grown into what Kal was lifting, weakening him and sending him to the hospital (You'd think that if they put his bed outside in the sun he'd get better a lot faster! I guess most people don't know he needs the sun for his power)</font></p>
FUNKMAN
07-05-2006, 10:14 AM
<strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Didja miss the part where he went above the clouds and recharged himself in the sunlight?</p><p>Maybe Jason being half-Kryptonian is more of a smallville deal, where he doesn't really start to develop his powers till puberty. </p><p>i saw that... i guess for me it was just too big a swing of strength and weakness </p><p>makes me think of another question: in one of the previous episodes wasn't there a villain who took power from the sun and had long fingernails and scratched superman. he had longish blonde hair as well?</p>
Don Stugots
07-05-2006, 11:26 AM
<strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Didja miss the part where he went above the clouds and recharged himself in the sunlight?</p><p>Maybe Jason being half-Kryptonian is more of a smallville deal, where he doesn't really start to develop his powers till puberty. </p><p>you know, i had forgotten that scene. what a good scene it was. </p><p>Anyone notice his hands burning as he was lifting it up into space?</p><p>See the fish swim out of the way as the land mass was growing underwater?</p>
JustJon
07-05-2006, 11:56 AM
<p> </p><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>JustJon</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Didja miss the part where he went above the clouds and recharged himself in the sunlight?</p><p>Maybe Jason being half-Kryptonian is more of a smallville deal, where he doesn't really start to develop his powers till puberty. </p><p>i saw that... i guess for me it was just too big a swing of strength and weakness </p><p>makes me think of another question: in one of the previous episodes wasn't there a villain who took power from the sun and had long fingernails and scratched superman. he had longish blonde hair as well?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Repeat after me: Superman 4 never existed.</p><p>There universe is better that way. </p>
flavopop
07-05-2006, 01:20 PM
<p><font size="1">WEAK, just plain ole WEAK! Story never really got me into it, Spaceys Luthor was very Forgettable, The kid was a drip, and Parker Posey is FUGLY and cant act. MY ass WAS indeed hurting from this 2and a half hour snorer! </font></p><p><font size="1">The guy who played Superman was good, but I agree had a creepy stalker feeling about him. </font></p><p><font size="1">No Superman, Batman or Spiderman movie needs to be 2.5 hours long. EVER! </font></p><p><font size="1">Tell a story , have a good criminal, and have the Hero kick some ass... Way to easy an eqaution. Better Luck Next Time...</font></p>
Don Stugots
07-05-2006, 01:28 PM
<strong>flavopop</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font size="1">WEAK, just plain ole WEAK! Story never really got me into it, Spaceys Luthor was very Forgettable, The kid was a drip, and Parker Posey is FUGLY and cant act. MY ass WAS indeed hurting from this 2and a half hour snorer! </font></p><p><font size="1">The guy who played Superman was good, but I agree had a creepy stalker feeling about him. </font></p><p><font size="1">No Superman, Batman or Spiderman movie needs to be 2.5 hours long. EVER! </font></p><p><font size="1">Tell a story , have a good criminal, and have the Hero kick some ass... Way to easy an eqaution. Better Luck Next Time...</font></p><p>wow. to each his own but are you sure you saw the movie as me?</p>
Furtherman
07-05-2006, 01:39 PM
<p>I thought it was great movie - an excellent continuation off Superman II.</p><p>As for Superman-Lois Lane kiss at the end of the second movie, that kiss wiped Lois' memory of Clark being Superman, that is all. She still remembered that they got it on at Niagra Falls, if I'm remembering that right. Or it was just insinuated when her fiancee (James Marsden, who is in danger of being typecast as the nice guy who never gets the girl; see: Cyclops) asked her about her article "I spent the night with Superman". </p><p>And the kid - did you ever see more tussable hair? </p><p>The only drawback I thought was Kitty, Parker Posey's character, who was basically a rehash of Miss Teschmacher - works for Lex, loves the rich life, sees Lex is evil, falls for Superman, helps Superman - being the only difference is that she helped him without him knowing (dumping the crystals). </p>
Don Stugots
07-05-2006, 01:42 PM
<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I thought it was great movie - an excellent continuation off Superman II.</p><p>As for Superman-Lois Lane kiss at the end of the second movie, that kiss wiped Lois' memory of Clark being Superman, that is all. She still remembered that they got it on at Niagra Falls, if I'm remembering that right. Or it was just insinuated when her fiancee (James Marsden, who is in danger of being typecast as the nice guy who never gets the girl; see: Cyclops) asked her about her article "I spent the night with Superman". </p><p>And the kid - did you ever see more tussable hair? </p><p>The only drawback I thought was Kitty, Parker Posey's character, who was basically a rehash of Miss Teschmacher - works for Lex, loves the rich life, sees Lex is evil, falls for Superman, helps Superman - being the only difference is that she helped him without him knowing (dumping the crystals). </p><p>oh she knew that she was dumping them. dont be fooled.</p>
Furtherman
07-05-2006, 01:49 PM
I didn't say she didn't know, I said that Superman doesn't know she helped him.
fezident
07-05-2006, 03:45 PM
<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p> </p><p>As for Superman-Lois Lane kiss at the end of the second movie, that kiss wiped Lois' memory of Clark being Superman, that is all. She still remembered that they got it on at Niagra Falls, if I'm remembering that right. </p><p> </p><p>Nah.</p><p>At the end of Superman II, Lois turns to a co-worker and says "What's going on in the world?" </p><p>If she has no recollection of the super-battle and no recollection of Supes secret identity, it's logical to assume that she doesn't remember having super-sex in the super-fortress of super-solitude.</p>
Sheeplovr
07-05-2006, 04:05 PM
<p>I totally didn't evne know some people wernt digging this with a snow shovel (thats a big scoop)</p><p>only
thing i see I don't want a sequal what can they do that wouldn't be
lame from this point in maybe a big giant brianic story witch i for
some reason was hopeng there would be some kinda brinaic hints with
knowing he was coming back form what was left of kryton and what was
left im going to have to get the prequil comics<br />
</p>
redfin
07-05-2006, 09:07 PM
<strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>redfin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>And how is this 20-something looking Lois Lane, winning the Pulitzer, and a world reknown newspaper reporter? Please somebody name a famous newspaper reporter, other than Woodward & Bernstein (and I believe they're only famous because they made a movie about them) The casting was just so wrong for me -- everybody was just too young and pretty to be a believable part of the story.<br /></p><p> </p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">Did they say Lois Lane was a household name? If you win a Pulizter, I'm sure you become a big name among people in the press, but I don't think they tried to make it seem like she was a huge celebrity (of course if she tied her career into Superman, maybe she is)</font></p><p>Just before she was being led into the hospital past all the crowds, with a cop escort she asks how she'd ever get in to see him, and her fella replied something like 'you're Lois Lane'. I guess that could have meant that she's a crafty sort, but I took it to mean that she had some sort of celebrity status. </p>
<strong>redfin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Doctor Manhattan</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>redfin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>And how is this 20-something looking Lois Lane, winning the Pulitzer, and a world reknown newspaper reporter? Please somebody name a famous newspaper reporter, other than Woodward & Bernstein (and I believe they're only famous because they made a movie about them) The casting was just so wrong for me -- everybody was just too young and pretty to be a believable part of the story.<br /></p><p> </p><p><font color="#000066" size="2">Did they say Lois Lane was a household name? If you win a Pulizter, I'm sure you become a big name among people in the press, but I don't think they tried to make it seem like she was a huge celebrity (of course if she tied her career into Superman, maybe she is)</font></p><p>Just before she was being led into the hospital past all the crowds, with a cop escort she asks how she'd ever get in to see him, and her fella replied something like 'you're Lois Lane'. I guess that could have meant that she's a crafty sort, but I took it to mean that she had some sort of celebrity status. </p><p>There is no real life counterpart reporter to fictional Lois Lane. Odds are she is treated like a celebrety because of her perceived relationship with the most powerful being on earth - odds are, the rags have a field day with her and Supe. In Metropolis she could absolutely be that recognizable, especially with the assumption by the public that she and Superman are boyfriend and girlfriend. It will get even nuttier if they learn that Lois had his Super Baby</p><p><img height="400" src="http://www.redboots.net/lane2/llanecov29.jpg" width="267" border="0" /></p>
FUNKMAN
07-06-2006, 06:43 AM
<p>this young reporter i did adore<br />so i rocked a vicious rhyme like i never did before<br />she said damn fly guy im in love with you<br />the casanova legend must have been true<br />i said by the way baby what's your name<br />said i go by the name of Lois Lane<br />and you could be my boyfiend you surely can<br />just let me quit my boyfriend called superman<br />i said he's a fairy i do suppoose<br />flyin through the air in pantyhose<br />he may be very sexy or even cute<br />but he looks like a sucker in a blue and red suit<br />i said you need a man who's got finesse<br />and his whole name across his chest<br />he may be able to fly all through the night<br />but can he rock a party til the early light?<br />he cant satisfy you with his little worm<br />but i can bust you out with my super sperm<br /></p>
Sheeplovr
07-06-2006, 06:48 AM
i go do it, i go do it, i go do it, do it , do it<br />
an i'm here an i'm there i'm big bang hank, im everywhere<br />
just throw your hands up in the air<br />
and party hardy like you just dont care
Furtherman
07-06-2006, 06:49 AM
<strong>fezident</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p> </p><p>As for Superman-Lois Lane kiss at the end of the second movie, that kiss wiped Lois' memory of Clark being Superman, that is all. She still remembered that they got it on at Niagra Falls, if I'm remembering that right. </p><p> </p><p>Nah.</p><p>At the end of Superman II, Lois turns to a co-worker and says "What's going on in the world?" </p><p>If she has no recollection of the super-battle and no recollection of Supes secret identity, it's logical to assume that she doesn't remember having super-sex in the super-fortress of super-solitude.</p><p>That "What's going on in the world?" was said in a matter of factly kind of way, as in "What's going on today?"</p>
FUNKMAN
07-06-2006, 09:31 AM
<font size="2"><font face="Arial">Well, I don’t think I can handle this<br />A cloudy day in metropolis<br />I think I’ll talk to my analyst<br />I got it so bad for this little journalist<br />It drives me up the wall and through the roof<br />Lois and clark in a telephone booth<br />I think I’m going out of my brain<br />I got it so bad for little miss lois lane</font><br /></font>
JustJon
07-06-2006, 09:39 AM
<p><span class="postbody">Just before she was being led into the hospital
past all the crowds, with a cop escort she asks how she'd ever get in
to see him, and her fella replied something like 'you're Lois Lane'. I
guess that could have meant that she's a crafty sort, but I took it to
mean that she had some sort of celebrity status. </span></p><p>Lois was also seen as the definitive Superman reporter - she introduced him to the world, she was the one who wrote the major stories about him, she was the one winning the Pulitzer for her editorial. The bigger question is how she got thru that huge ass crowd? She find a cop and have him get her thru it? </p>
East Side Dave
07-06-2006, 10:52 AM
i still don't think it was as good as Batman Begins but I like it a lot........gold star
RingWraith
07-08-2006, 09:22 PM
<p>I just saw "Superman Returns" earlier, and I must say I thought it was a great movie to bring back "big blue".</p><p>I'm amazed how much Brandon Routh sounded a lot like Christopher Reeve's version of Superman.</p><p>I did like the end of the plane sequence at the ballpark. Yes, it is a little cheesy, but I like that. And the fact that he gave the people in the plane the same qoute about "flying is still the safest way to travel" was great.</p><p>Did anyone noticed the way he hold the car, in the same way he posed in the action comics cover? I thought that was cool.</p>
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