Sequels That Ruin The Original Movie(s) For You [Archive]

AKA

06-29-2006, 05:17 AM

A few jump to mind, but for me there is no bigger offender than THE MATRIX sequels.<img height="420" src="http://icine.org/img/matrix_retarded.jpg" width="499" border="0" />I actually can't enjoy the first one anymore because #2 and #3 were so mind bending horrific. What REALLY pisses me off is the first MATRIX is a perfect example of the perfect sci-fi movie - NOTHING more needed to be said! As far as I was concerend, it was the BLADERUNNER of these times - we didn't need to go back and learn any more. So much of what made that first movie special was the mystery and discovery and the payoff. Any others?

grlNIN

06-29-2006, 05:51 AM

Jaws Revenge. Beverly HIlls Cop II was funny but they didn't need to make a third.

kdubya

06-29-2006, 05:58 AM

Not a "sequel" but sure ruined the most bad ass villian ever<img src="http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06264/00thing.jpg" border="0" />

fezident

06-29-2006, 06:40 AM

Agreed.  This thread begins and ends with the Star Wars prequels.  It's amazing how much effort was put into RUINING one of, if not THE, greatest franchise ever.Those prequels don't make sense on their own OR in relation to the original trilogy.  Screw you George Lucas.  Screw you.

BrooklynKat

06-29-2006, 06:47 AM

The first thing that came to mind was the Matrix for me too.  Do you remember how awesome that 1st one was?!  "There is no spoon..."

Se7en

06-29-2006, 06:47 AM

I'll go with the Matrix sequels as well.  I basically pretend that they don't exist.  I think the Matrix is a fine film, and I like to just leave it at that.  Just pretend that Neo went and saved the world / mankind or something like that.  Pretend that those awful sequels never existed.

kdubya

06-29-2006, 07:06 AM

Matrix takes it in a landslide. What gets me is in the end of the 1st film, Neo is a true badass. The start of the 2nd, he is just kind of a dude that can fly. What the hell happened?<img src="http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06264/matrix_35.jpg" border="0" />I think their needs to be a committee that decides when franchises should be taken away from their creators.

Doogie

06-29-2006, 07:17 AM

Two awful movies that somewhat ruin the original: Caddyshack II and Sting II.

Sheeplovr

06-29-2006, 01:16 PM

Matrix takes it in a landslide. What gets me is
in the end of the 1st film, Neo is a true badass. The start of the 2nd,
he is just kind of a dude that can fly. What the hell happened?you didnt get it thats what happendjsut cause the movie went over your head doesnt make it badand if all 3 movies were cartoons they would be praised byond praisedness

XMRonFez

06-29-2006, 01:17 PM

It may be dated, but anything other then The original "Highlander" is just insulting to me...<img height="400" src="http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/angels/592/posters/highlander.jpg" width="276" border="0" />

Hottub

06-29-2006, 01:21 PM

Furtherman

06-29-2006, 01:25 PM

I think wearing a sneaker that you plug in would be dangerous.

ChimneyFish

06-29-2006, 01:26 PM

kdubya wrote: Not a "sequel" but sure ruined the most bad ass villian ever You take a character who, if you don't fucking kill him in the first movie, could have been among the classic Star Wars villains. Plus you add in the most awful character ever invented to completely overshadow the coolness of Darth Maul.    What a douche Lucas is.

Reephdweller

06-29-2006, 01:28 PM

I didn't care for the Matrix sequels either. I can understand why people really like those movies as well, though I was pretty much happy with the first on its own.Anything after Lethal Weapon 2, Weekend at Bernies 2, Charlies Angels - Full Throttle, Die Hard the one with Samuel Jackson Red Dragon....granted it's technically a prequel to Silence of the Lambs / Alternate Manhunter though I didn't care for it at all.

mdr55

06-29-2006, 02:51 PM

Kill Bill 2

kdubya

06-29-2006, 03:07 PM

Sheeplovr wrote:  Matrix takes it in a landslide. What gets me is in the end of the 1st film, Neo is a true badass. The start of the 2nd, he is just kind of a dude that can fly. What the hell happened?  you didnt get it thats what happendjsut cause the movie went over your head doesnt make it badand if all 3 movies were cartoons they would be praised byond praisedness I get what happens, I am not a dolt. I just think that they ruined the power oif the ending of the first movie with the second. It didn't go over my head, I just think they over did it, tried to hard to make some epic.

Se7en

06-29-2006, 03:10 PM

Reefdweller wrote: Red Dragon....granted it's technically a prequel to Silence of the Lambs / Alternate Manhunter though I didn't care for it at all. Well......this isn't about movies, but if you want to talk about the Hannibal Lector books, Red Dragon was a great book, Silence of the Lambs was a GREAT book, and "Hannibal" was a godawful piece of shit that totally and irredeemably destroyed the character of Clarice Starling.  I believe that Harris wrote it solely for the money, both from the book and the rights to the eventual movie.

Don Stugots

06-29-2006, 04:11 PM

Se7en wrote: I'll go with the Matrix sequels as well.  I basically pretend that they don't exist.  I think the Matrix is a fine film, and I like to just leave it at that.  Just pretend that Neo went and saved the world / mankind or something like that.  Pretend that those awful sequels never existed.him and his water headed daughter says you are all welcome and then he wiped his ass with a thousand dollar bill.

cougarjake13

06-29-2006, 04:21 PM

<img height="475" src="http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000TLA64.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" width="326" border="0" />i need to take a movement, he means he has to shitand fuck arkansas dave, no one cares about you

This message was edited by cougarjake13 on 6-29-06 @ 8:24 PM

Don Stugots

06-29-2006, 04:23 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: <img height="475" src="http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000TLA64.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" width="326" border="0" /> but jon bon jovi songs were so dreamy.

cougarjake13

06-29-2006, 04:25 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: <img height="475" src="http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000TLA64.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" width="326" border="0" /> but jon bon jovi songs were so dreamy.  whenever i hear that blaze of glory song i used to think of this movie but now it's all deadliest catch

CaptClown

06-29-2006, 04:45 PM

Any Friday the 13th after 2 and any Superman after 2.

cougarjake13

06-29-2006, 04:50 PM

batman forever and batman and robin

MadMatt

06-29-2006, 04:54 PM

kdubya wrote: Matrix takes it in a landslide. What gets me is in the end of the 1st film, Neo is a true badass. The start of the 2nd, he is just kind of a dude that can fly. What the hell happened?Quoted for truth.  I can understand the "new" Agent Smith giving Neo trouble, but Neo should have been able to wipe the floor with everybody else in the movie.  Supposedly (per the first film) "The One" could control every facet of the matrix - SO WHY DIDN'T HE?!?!?!Actually, I don't absolutely hate Matrix:Reloaded, but it needed a strong follow-up in Matrix:Revolution.  That simply did not happen.  Revolution could be one of the most disappointing movies in the history of film (IMO).However, The Ani-Matrix is an excellent addition to the mythos.  I liked it a lot.

cougarjake13

06-29-2006, 05:16 PM

major league 2                            and major league 3 back to the minors<img height="227" src="http://www.baseballmovie.com/images/major-league-2.jpg" width="150" border="0" />            <img height="475" src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00004RF84.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" width="324" border="0" />

TheMojoPin

06-29-2006, 05:24 PM

I agree that Star Wars by and far sets the standard for completely fucking up a beloved franchise, but the Matrix films are pretty close.  Someone mentioned that the 2nd one isn't that bad IF they had knocked it out of the part with a killer finale, and I completely think that's true.  The 2nd one isn't terrible...it's just so reliant on a sequel that the 3rd movie being SO bad completely drags it down, so maybe that does make the Matrix films the "winner" in this thread.  The PT for Star Wars is awful, but you con totally ignore them and still have the OT as a quality set of films.  The Matrix series, you only have 1 good film left on its own.And since it's out there, the 4th and 5th Superman movies make watching the original 2 a total chore.  I still love moments of them, but the latter 2 sucking so much just highlights the hokey flaws of the first 2 way too much.

cougarjake13

06-30-2006, 04:22 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: And since it's out there, the 4th and 5th Superman movies make watching the original 2 a total chore.  I still love moments of them, but the latter 2 sucking so much just highlights the hokey flaws of the first 2 way too much.i dont remember there being a fifth superman, you had the 2nd with zod and company, the 3rd with richard pryor, 4th had that sun like version of superman, are you sure there was a 5th ???

TheMojoPin

06-30-2006, 08:05 PM

Yeah, I got that mixed up.  I meant the 3rd and 4th films.

cougarjake13

07-01-2006, 04:32 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Yeah, I got that mixed up.  I meant the 3rd and 4th films. actually there was almost a 5th superman according to imdb.com... they were going to use the extra footage from superman 4 that got cut out to reduce it from 2hrs plus to an 1 1/2 hrs and reeve wasnt going to be supes, he was gonna direct but the movie bombed, so no 5<img height="100" src="http://home.comcast.net/~bob80/RFnetCougarJake13.jpg" width="300" border="0" />

fezident

07-01-2006, 05:10 AM

<img height="271" src="http://i.1asphost.com/RockyFan/rocky5.jpg" width="152" border="0" /> "My ring's outside."

PaulF

07-01-2006, 07:19 AM

XMRonFez wrote: It may be dated, but anything other then The original "Highlander" is just insulting to me...The original was a perfect movie with a nicely wrapped up ending. You don't feel like it needs any more explanation.By making any sequels, they destroyed the whole mythology/rules they established in the original. Then they made the series, which while not bad like the sequels, also destroys the original, though it does keep more in line with the rules it established.I can't believe they made them aliens. That whole premise also screws with the timeline from the original.

This message was edited by PaulF on 7-1-06 @ 11:20 AM

spot

07-01-2006, 05:20 PM

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/b/images/blues-brothers-2000-poster-0.jpg

joeyballsack

07-02-2006, 01:12 PM

Transporter 2.

EliSnow

07-02-2006, 03:14 PM

Hottub wrote: <img src="http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/MG/208899.jpg" border="0" /> Best Sequel Title Ever!

FUNKMAN

07-02-2006, 04:18 PM

Porkys / Revenge Of The Nerds

kdubya

07-02-2006, 05:31 PM

Hottub wrote: <img src="http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/MG/208899.jpg" border="0" /> If it wasn't for this movie the bad guys would have clossed down Miracles.

JimBeam

07-07-2006, 10:19 AM

I started thinking about this topic again last night after flipping through 2 of the worst sequels ever last night ( in all I was boucning between 3 sequels, with Friday The 13th Part 7 being the other one but I didn't mind that as much as these other 2 ).Major League 2, which was mentioned earlier, is so bad not only because of its lack of conistency w/ the actors but just that it was so f'ing CORNY. I mean just plain shit.Omar Epps could be the worst actor ever if it werent for that guy that played the catcher ( who may also be the guy that farts in the car window in Can't Buy Me Love ).The movie is also bad in that it just doesn't relate well.Obvioulsy its a movie and they are going to take liberties but are we to belive that the Whitesox would leave in the same pitcher for 8 innings in a close game ?And that They would walk one guy to get to the leagues' best hitter just so Vaughn could get his manhood back >I gotta be honest and say that the more i watch the first one the more I realize that it really sucked and wasnt a good movie either. List it as one of those movies that the more you watch it the more you hate it ( I now feel the same way about Ferris Bueller )The other movie on last night was Robocop 3. Now not that either of the first 2 were good but this one sucked more than the other 2 combined.

feralBoy

07-07-2006, 10:54 AM

I thought Pitch Black was a pretty cool movie.  Then I watched The Chronicles of Riddick.  YUCK!  That movie could have been so much better.

cougarjake13

07-07-2006, 06:10 PM

loved th first one but this one was just stupid with vigo and the slime just horrible  <img height="350" src="http://www.wombat.zaq.ne.jp/iwaki/OST_Jake_Ghostbusters.jpg" width="346" border="0" />

dereckfishboy

07-07-2006, 06:27 PM

feralBoy wrote: I thought Pitch Black was a pretty cool movie. Then I watched The Chronicles of Riddick. YUCK! That movie could have been so much better.   To take a Sci Fi horror which was almost in the veins of Aliens and make a mindless action flick. For shame.