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PapaBear

08-05-2006, 10:12 PM

This story has been in my local paper for a few years, now. After a Vermont Supreme Court decision the other day, the story got bigger. Look to see this end up before the US Supreme Court, and likely debated hotly on all the news channels.<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/05/us/05gay.html" target="_self">Parental Rights Upheld for Lesbian Ex-Partner</a> After living together for several years in Virginia, Ms. Miller and Ms. Jenkins traveled to Vermont to enter into a civil union in 2000. Isabella was born in Virginia in 2002, after Ms. Miller was impregnated with sperm from an anonymous donor whom Ms. Jenkins helped select. Ms. Jenkins was present in the delivery room.When Isabella was 4 months old, the women moved to Vermont, where they lived for about a year before separating. Ms. Miller and Isabella moved back to Virginia.In an interview last year, Ms. Miller said she no longer considered herself a lesbian.“When I left Janet,” Ms. Miller said, “I left the homosexual lifestyle and drew closer to God.” Ms. Miller said that she was Isabella’s only mother and that she did not want Ms. Jenkins to have visitation rights.The reason I say this will end up being debated as a gay marriage issue, and not a child custody issue, is due to the fact that some states have (such as Vermont) allow civil unions, and some (like Virginia) don't. This whole thing is about as complicated as complicated can get, when you try to look at both sides objectively.

HeyGuy

08-05-2006, 10:16 PM

PapaBear wrote: In an interview last year, Ms. Miller said she no longer considered herself a lesbian.“When I left Janet,” Ms. Miller said, “I left the homosexual lifestyle and drew closer to God.” Ms. Miller said that she was Isabella’s only mother and that she did not want Ms. Jenkins to have visitation rights. I love the whole GOD part of this story. For those who believe in God you should know that God loves everyone So if she was a lesbian before then your still a lesbian. You dont need to hide who you are or runaway from who you are because you found God again.

PapaBear

08-05-2006, 10:20 PM

I agree with what you say about "the God thing", Campo... But the real issue here is about dealing with a subject that is completely rejected by one state, and embraced by another. There are so many levels to this, too. Such as... one mother actually gave birth to the child. What bothers me is, of all the articles I've read about this case, I've never seen anything about if the non-birth mother ever adopted the child, or did Vermont's laws automatically consider her a legal mother in the civil union.

Don Stugots

08-06-2006, 05:29 AM

two people should be able to do whatever they want.  who is to say that two men or two women shouldnt be together if they want?  plus, with more lesbians getting married we would have more fodder for the kissing girls thread. which is just much more gooder.

WhistlePig

08-06-2006, 10:17 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">STUGOTS1 wrote: two people should be
able
to do whatever they want.ÿ who is to say that two men or two women shouldnt
be
together if they want?ÿ plus, with more lesbians getting married we would have
more fodder for the kissing girls thread.ÿwhich is just much
more gooder.<hr color="cococo" align="left">

not necessarily...

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This message was edited by WhistlePig on 8-6-06 @ 2:19 PM

reeshy

08-06-2006, 10:58 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote: two people should be able to do whatever they want.  who is to say that two men or two women shouldnt be together if they want?  plus, with more lesbians getting married we would have more fodder for the kissing girls thread. which is just much more gooder.You, Mr. Stugots, are my new hero!!!!!!!!!!

Don Stugots

08-06-2006, 04:00 PM

reeshy wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: two people should be able to do whatever they want.  who is to say that two men or two women shouldnt be together if they want?  plus, with more lesbians getting married we would have more fodder for the kissing girls thread. which is just much more gooder.You, Mr. Stugots, are my new hero!!!!!!!!!!reeshy, you just made my weekend.  honestly, i had a hard, long shitty week last week.  the weekend wasnt getting any better but your post and with Gvac telling me that he has no pants on really turned it all around for me.  thank you both.

reeshy

08-06-2006, 04:05 PM

We try hard!!!!!!

Don Stugots

08-06-2006, 04:30 PM

reeshy wrote: We try hard!!!!!! oh i know you do and so do i.

reeshy

08-06-2006, 04:35 PM

I know you are but what am I????

A.J.

08-07-2006, 03:44 AM

In an interview last year, Ms. Miller said she no longer considered herself a lesbian. “When I left Janet,” Ms. Miller said, “I left the homosexual lifestyle and drew closer to God.” And comments like this are sure to heat up the "are they born that way or is it a choice" argument.